Re: OT, do you miss the heyday of bad web design?
On Sep 26, 2012, at 6:25 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: So now it has to go through the full internal review process again because it's a major change, and an emergency change at that because go-live was supposed to be in July, but the emergency change board are scattered across 4 continents and 17 time zones and we can't get a quorum. Little wonder project managers tend to go bald, it's from tearing out their hair :D Somebody important says Something must be done, so I make an arbitrary decision to go live, because that's something, therefore it must be done, and throw it over to the support team to sort out at their leisure. At my last job we had a couple of sites that went through design by committee. In one case the owner of our company was eager to impress the client so he had to put his $0.02 in every other day, in addition to everyone else. Designers just love being a human paintbrush to managers with no design credentials. Better him than me, I thought. I nearly wet myself laughing when the boss told him to start using the golden ratio, which he pretty much did already. You've also reminded me of another client who decided to go live so he had his DNS switched over... when we weren't ready. He told us after he'd done it, of course. I wish I'd had a support team to throw it over to. I'd better stop here before I hit the liquor cabinet. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT, do you miss the heyday of bad web design?
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of knarftheria...@gmail.com That's why you make the Big Bucks, eh? I wish. I work for a charity, I'm on about 75% of the market rate, but frustrating as it is, it's better than earning market rate and being miserable making profits for the fatcats. B cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: OT, do you miss the heyday of bad web design? Hell, no. Ours starts in the pits and goes downhill from there. We have 50 different and feuding people who get final say, then it has to be signed off by someone who hates all of them and all of us. When it's been signed off we circulate it to the different offices round the globe who get to tell us which bits they don't want us to show, so we have to translate their wishes into something that a computer can understand, then get it all signed off again, which means put back the way it was before the overseas offices made their contribution, which was only meant to be a token gesture. After that our principal donor will tell us why it doesn't adhere to their standards since they changed them last without telling us, and if we don't adhere to the standards they'll cut off our funding. So now it has to go through the full internal review process again because it's a major change, and an emergency change at that because go-live was supposed to be in July, but the emergency change board are scattered across 4 continents and 17 time zones and we can't get a quorum. Somebody important says Something must be done, so I make an arbitrary decision to go live, because that's something, therefore it must be done, and throw it over to the support team to sort out at their leisure. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT, do you miss the heyday of bad web design?
On Sep 25, 2012, at 8:40 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: I'm involved in a web design project at work at the moment. This should improve things a bit and mean we're not so over-deadline. Is your project anything like this? http://theoatmeal.com/comics/design_hell Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT, do you miss the heyday of bad web design?
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of David Mann I'm involved in a web design project at work at the moment. This should improve things a bit and mean we're not so over-deadline. Is your project anything like this? http://theoatmeal.com/comics/design_hell Hell, no. Ours starts in the pits and goes downhill from there. We have 50 different and feuding people who get final say, then it has to be signed off by someone who hates all of them and all of us. When it's been signed off we circulate it to the different offices round the globe who get to tell us which bits they don't want us to show, so we have to translate their wishes into something that a computer can understand, then get it all signed off again, which means put back the way it was before the overseas offices made their contribution, which was only meant to be a token gesture. After that our principal donor will tell us why it doesn't adhere to their standards since they changed them last without telling us, and if we don't adhere to the standards they'll cut off our funding. So now it has to go through the full internal review process again because it's a major change, and an emergency change at that because go-live was supposed to be in July, but the emergency change board are scattered across 4 continents and 17 time zones and we can't get a quorum. Somebody important says Something must be done, so I make an arbitrary decision to go live, because that's something, therefore it must be done, and throw it over to the support team to sort out at their leisure. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT, do you miss the heyday of bad web design?
That's why you make the Big Bucks, eh? cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: OT, do you miss the heyday of bad web design? Hell, no. Ours starts in the pits and goes downhill from there. We have 50 different and feuding people who get final say, then it has to be signed off by someone who hates all of them and all of us. When it's been signed off we circulate it to the different offices round the globe who get to tell us which bits they don't want us to show, so we have to translate their wishes into something that a computer can understand, then get it all signed off again, which means put back the way it was before the overseas offices made their contribution, which was only meant to be a token gesture. After that our principal donor will tell us why it doesn't adhere to their standards since they changed them last without telling us, and if we don't adhere to the standards they'll cut off our funding. So now it has to go through the full internal review process again because it's a major change, and an emergency change at that because go-live was supposed to be in July, but the emergency change board are scattered across 4 continents and 17 time zones and we can't get a quorum. Somebody important says Something must be done, so I make an arbitrary decision to go live, because that's something, therefore it must be done, and throw it over to the support team to sort out at their leisure. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT, do you miss the heyday of bad web design?
Oh, no, Larry, you're not that bad looking ;-) I had forgotten how garish those pages were. On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: A friend just pointed me to this link: http://wonder-tonic.com/geocitiesizer/ I am impressed at how it turns this: http://red4est.com/lrc into this: http://wonder-tonic.com/geocitiesizer/content.php?theme=1music=6url=red4est.com/lrc CAUTION: Not Safe For Work, Play, Before lunch, After lunch or to anyone with a sensitive artistic disposition. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT, do you miss the heyday of bad web design?
From: Larry Colen A friend just pointed me to this link: http://wonder-tonic.com/geocitiesizer/ I am impressed at how it turns this: http://red4est.com/lrc into this: http://wonder-tonic.com/geocitiesizer/content.php?theme=1music=6url=red4est.com/lrc CAUTION: Not Safe For Work, Play, Before lunch, After lunch or to anyone with a sensitive artistic disposition. Have you considered that P.O.S. page is now an indelible part of the internet forever? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT, do you miss the heyday of bad web design?
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen A friend just pointed me to this link: http://wonder-tonic.com/geocitiesizer/ I'm involved in a web design project at work at the moment. This should improve things a bit and mean we're not so over-deadline. I am impressed at how it turns this: http://red4est.com/lrc Jay-zus Kurist, Larry - you could have warned us! It's hideous! into this: http://wonder- tonic.com/geocitiesizer/content.php?theme=1music=6url=red4est.com/lrc Oh, you meant this one. Sorry! Still got the picture of that weird guy with the beard though. Jeez. CAUTION: Not Safe For Work, Play, Before lunch, After lunch or to anyone with a sensitive artistic disposition. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT, do you miss the heyday of bad web design?
Maybe i can turn my hand made site into one of those then Dave On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: A friend just pointed me to this link: http://wonder-tonic.com/geocitiesizer/ I am impressed at how it turns this: http://red4est.com/lrc into this: http://wonder-tonic.com/geocitiesizer/content.php?theme=1music=6url=red4est.com/lrc CAUTION: Not Safe For Work, Play, Before lunch, After lunch or to anyone with a sensitive artistic disposition. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT, do you miss the heyday of bad web design?
With an apologia to to Doug somebody had to do it. http://wonder-tonic.com/geocitiesizer/content.php?theme=2music=10url=www.pdml.net and this, (dig that devil girl) http://wonder-tonic.com/geocitiesizer/content.php?theme=3music=8url=http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net On 9/24/2012 3:56 PM, Larry Colen wrote: A friend just pointed me to this link: http://wonder-tonic.com/geocitiesizer/ I am impressed at how it turns this: http://red4est.com/lrc into this: http://wonder-tonic.com/geocitiesizer/content.php?theme=1music=6url=red4est.com/lrc CAUTION: Not Safe For Work, Play, Before lunch, After lunch or to anyone with a sensitive artistic disposition. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
