Re: bizarre lightroom mystery
- Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 1:30 PM Subject: Re: bizarre lightroom mystery On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 6:01 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: ... Actually, I do view the frames large in Lightroom, but exporting them as jpegs allows me to see them *even larger* after my rendering, and when I export full sized jpegs, I often enlarge (zoom in) the frame in increments, which sometimes yields interesting cropping possibilities. Hmm. I don't see how you can see the photos even larger than you can with Lightroom. You can fill the screen ... your screen is only so big, yes? ... with nothing but the image in Library or Slide Show modules, and you can zoom in to see the image at up to 11:1 magnification in Library or Develop modules and look at it in sections. How can you see it larger than that? Do you go to even higher magnifications? No, I don't go to higher magnifications. The jpeg to desktop is just a habit I got into--just a little quirk of mine. To be sure, Lightroom allows for excellent magnification--and I use it quite a bit. cheers, Chrisitne -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: bizarre lightroom mystery
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 6:01 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: ... Actually, I do view the frames large in Lightroom, but exporting them as jpegs allows me to see them *even larger* after my rendering, and when I export full sized jpegs, I often enlarge (zoom in) the frame in increments, which sometimes yields interesting cropping possibilities. Hmm. I don't see how you can see the photos even larger than you can with Lightroom. You can fill the screen ... your screen is only so big, yes? ... with nothing but the image in Library or Slide Show modules, and you can zoom in to see the image at up to 11:1 magnification in Library or Develop modules and look at it in sections. How can you see it larger than that? Do you go to even higher magnifications? -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: bizarre lightroom mystery
I am not sure what you did, Christine. Haven't a lot of time so I haven't gone through this whole thread. ... last night I started downloading the holiday shots. I got four cards downloaded. I rendered a few frames and exported them as jpegs to my desktop just to get the screen-size-overview-look-see like I usually do. Unless you have the Add to this catalog option checked in the Export dialog, these exported JPEGs are no longer available within Lightroom. I'm not sure why you do this, however. Why not just import them into LR and then use the Library or Slide Show tools to get your screen size overview look see? Why export them out of Lightroom into a different format just to do that? I took a break, came back to Lightroom to have another look-see, and I couldn't find a lot of the frames I had downloaded in my Lightroom catalogue--including the frames that I had rendered and exported as jpegs. I looked and looked and looked--never found them. If you're referring to the just recently imported images, to find them choose one and right-click (control-click on Mac OS X with a one button mouse) on the image. You can pick the Show in Folder in Catalog to jump there inside LR, or Show in Finder/Show in Navigator to jump there in the computer file system outside of Lightroom. If you're referring to the screen-size-overview-look-see JPEGs, they're exported out of Lightroom and not in the catalog per my first comment. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: bizarre lightroom mystery
- Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 12:15 PM Subject: Re: bizarre lightroom mystery I am not sure what you did, Christine. Haven't a lot of time so I haven't gone through this whole thread. No problem. I've reimported the DNG files that went into my Lightroom catalogue, and they are still there. The bummer is all the rendering information is gone. I still have the jpegs on the desktop, so I can use them to guide me when I rerender these DNG files. So, I'm fine. No frames were lost competely. ... last night I started downloading the holiday shots. I got four cards downloaded. I rendered a few frames and exported them as jpegs to my desktop just to get the screen-size-overview-look-see like I usually do. Unless you have the Add to this catalog option checked in the Export dialog, these exported JPEGs are no longer available within Lightroom. I'm not sure why you do this, however. Why not just import them into LR and then use the Library or Slide Show tools to get your screen size overview look see? Why export them out of Lightroom into a different format just to do that? Actually, I do view the frames large in Lightroom, but exporting them as jpegs allows me to see them *even larger* after my rendering, and when I export full sized jpegs, I often enlarge (zoom in) the frame in increments, which sometimes yields interesting cropping possibilities. I took a break, came back to Lightroom to have another look-see, and I couldn't find a lot of the frames I had downloaded in my Lightroom catalogue--including the frames that I had rendered and exported as jpegs. I looked and looked and looked--never found them. If you're referring to the just recently imported images, to find them choose one and right-click (control-click on Mac OS X with a one button mouse) on the image. You can pick the Show in Folder in Catalog to jump there inside LR, or Show in Finder/Show in Navigator to jump there in the computer file system outside of Lightroom. If you're referring to the screen-size-overview-look-see JPEGs, they're exported out of Lightroom and not in the catalog per my first comment. Roger that. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: bizarre lightroom mystery
[...] I took a break, came back to Lightroom to have another look-see, and I couldn't find a lot of the frames I had downloaded in my Lightroom catalogue--including the frames that I had rendered and exported as jpegs. You need to clarify a couple of things for me, because you're talking about frames you downloaded and frames you exported. What do you mean by downloaded? Do you mean the frames you imported into the catalogue? Next, when you say you can't find the frames you exported, do you mean you can't find the originals in the catalogue, or you can't find the jpegs themselves? Or both? You also say you couldn't find a lot of the frames, which suggests that you can find some of them. What is different about the missing ones? Can you spot any pattern? It sounds to me as though you've imported them successfully, but for some reason you've imported them to a different place than usual, or inadvertently changed the settings so that they're didn't copy them from the source media but left them in place, or perhaps you or the cat have inadvertently unknowingly deleted the collection they were in when you were editing them. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: bizarre lightroom mystery
- Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:28 AM Subject: RE: bizarre lightroom mystery [...] I took a break, came back to Lightroom to have another look-see, and I couldn't find a lot of the frames I had downloaded in my Lightroom catalogue--including the frames that I had rendered and exported as jpegs. You need to clarify a couple of things for me, because you're talking about frames you downloaded and frames you exported. What do you mean by downloaded? Do you mean the frames you imported into the catalogue? Sorry to be so confusing, Bob. Yes, I mean the frames I imported into the catalogue. Next, when you say you can't find the frames you exported, do you mean you can't find the originals in the catalogue, or you can't find the jpegs themselves? Or both? I mean I can't find the original frames I imported into the lightroom catalogue--they disappeared from the catalogue after I rendered and exported them as jpegs to my desktop. These missing frames that were rendered and exported as jpegs are still on my desktop. You also say you couldn't find a lot of the frames, which suggests that you can find some of them. What is different about the missing ones? Can you spot any pattern? The missing frames were more interesting to look at. :-) Other than that, I can't spot any pattern, which is weird to be sure. It sounds to me as though you've imported them successfully, but for some reason you've imported them to a different place than usual, or inadvertently changed the settings so that they're didn't copy them from the source media but left them in place, or perhaps you or the cat have inadvertently unknowingly deleted the collection they were in when you were editing them. Perhaps you're right, and I did something unknowingly; it's happened before. Still, I don't recall even thinking about deleting any of the frames from the four cards I downloaded. I delete much later in my workflow. I'm still looking and flagging and deciding. I have a feeling this might remain a mystery. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: bizarre lightroom mystery
Perhaps you're right, and I did something unknowingly; it's happened before. Still, I don't recall even thinking about deleting any of the frames from the four cards I downloaded. I delete much later in my workflow. I'm still looking and flagging and deciding. I have a feeling this might remain a mystery. Cheers, Christine it's something that is probably worth pursuing to see if there's a bug in your workflow. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: bizarre lightroom mystery
Christine - I think what you are saying is that you have some DNGs that you have edited and saved as JPGs, and that you now have a DNG and a JPG with the same name. If that is true, Lightroom acts like the JPG isn't there and only shows you the raw file. I'm not sure of the details of file handling. But I am listening to the Lightroom course on Kelby training and remember the instructor making that statement. gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi Everyone: Back from the June Bloom in Southern California, though happy it was jacket weather. We visited a friend who is a lieutenant colonel in the marines--so it was like being on intense patrol for 6 days, march, march, up the hill, always on the move. Had a great, great time though; we saw some pretty vistas. Anyway, last night I started downloading the holiday shots. I got four cards downloaded. I rendered a few frames and exported them as jpegs to my desktop just to get the screen-size-overview-look-see like I usually do. I took a break, came back to Lightroom to have another look-see, and I couldn't find a lot of the frames I had downloaded in my Lightroom catalogue--including the frames that I had rendered and exported as jpegs. I looked and looked and looked--never found them. Said unrendered DNG frames were--and are--safe on the two external hard drives which I work off of, and that's good, but gosh I can't figure out for the life of me what happened. Has anyone had something similar happen? Anyone have any ideas what might have happened? How could these frames just disappear after I had rendered and exported them? Good to be back--oh, and Igor, never got to the wild animal park or the sea food restaurant, but big thanks for the suggestions--mighty neighborly of you. Much appreciated. And I'm glad everyone had a great time at GFM. Looks like next year, 2011, the 10 year anniversary, might be a good time to go as well. Could be fun. Now back to the Lighroom conundrum . . . Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: bizarre lightroom mystery
Thats why i shoot Raw + Jpeg. No help, but i thought i'd just say.;-) Dave On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 1:35 PM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote: Christine - I think what you are saying is that you have some DNGs that you have edited and saved as JPGs, and that you now have a DNG and a JPG with the same name. If that is true, Lightroom acts like the JPG isn't there and only shows you the raw file. I'm not sure of the details of file handling. But I am listening to the Lightroom course on Kelby training and remember the instructor making that statement. gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi Everyone: Back from the June Bloom in Southern California, though happy it was jacket weather. We visited a friend who is a lieutenant colonel in the marines--so it was like being on intense patrol for 6 days, march, march, up the hill, always on the move. Had a great, great time though; we saw some pretty vistas. Anyway, last night I started downloading the holiday shots. I got four cards downloaded. I rendered a few frames and exported them as jpegs to my desktop just to get the screen-size-overview-look-see like I usually do. I took a break, came back to Lightroom to have another look-see, and I couldn't find a lot of the frames I had downloaded in my Lightroom catalogue--including the frames that I had rendered and exported as jpegs. I looked and looked and looked--never found them. Said unrendered DNG frames were--and are--safe on the two external hard drives which I work off of, and that's good, but gosh I can't figure out for the life of me what happened. Has anyone had something similar happen? Anyone have any ideas what might have happened? How could these frames just disappear after I had rendered and exported them? Good to be back--oh, and Igor, never got to the wild animal park or the sea food restaurant, but big thanks for the suggestions--mighty neighborly of you. Much appreciated. And I'm glad everyone had a great time at GFM. Looks like next year, 2011, the 10 year anniversary, might be a good time to go as well. Could be fun. Now back to the Lighroom conundrum . . . Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: bizarre lightroom mystery
Christine, Try importing a new file. Open the dialogue box and check where it is putting the new imports. I had similar problems when Lightroom (or Bob?!?) started nesting new files underneath an older directory. It took me a while to recognize it, and then I had to un-nest the directories. (I've been putting all my exports in a directory Export2010 - works great for finding them.) Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:28 AM Subject: RE: bizarre lightroom mystery [...] I took a break, came back to Lightroom to have another look-see, and I couldn't find a lot of the frames I had downloaded in my Lightroom catalogue--including the frames that I had rendered and exported as jpegs. You need to clarify a couple of things for me, because you're talking about frames you downloaded and frames you exported. What do you mean by downloaded? Do you mean the frames you imported into the catalogue? Sorry to be so confusing, Bob. Yes, I mean the frames I imported into the catalogue. Next, when you say you can't find the frames you exported, do you mean you can't find the originals in the catalogue, or you can't find the jpegs themselves? Or both? I mean I can't find the original frames I imported into the lightroom catalogue--they disappeared from the catalogue after I rendered and exported them as jpegs to my desktop. These missing frames that were rendered and exported as jpegs are still on my desktop. You also say you couldn't find a lot of the frames, which suggests that you can find some of them. What is different about the missing ones? Can you spot any pattern? The missing frames were more interesting to look at. :-) Other than that, I can't spot any pattern, which is weird to be sure. It sounds to me as though you've imported them successfully, but for some reason you've imported them to a different place than usual, or inadvertently changed the settings so that they're didn't copy them from the source media but left them in place, or perhaps you or the cat have inadvertently unknowingly deleted the collection they were in when you were editing them. Perhaps you're right, and I did something unknowingly; it's happened before. Still, I don't recall even thinking about deleting any of the frames from the four cards I downloaded. I delete much later in my workflow. I'm still looking and flagging and deciding. I have a feeling this might remain a mystery. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
