Re: photographing cigarette smoke
This one time, at band camp, Paul Sorenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin - get more side lighting on the smoke. Ok, so with the main light, I can do several shots (bracketed 1 stop) and move the main light in a semi circle about the subject, getting various effects with the light. Should the main light have a snoot and focused on the smoke? This would have the fill (2-3 stops less light) to illuminate the model. Keep using the MZ-S - using the monolights, you're using manual exposure. Once you have the exposure set for the monolights, set the exposure compensation on the MZ-S body to -3 and you should have enough light to trigger the monolights, but not enough to influence what gets recorded on the film. Or tape a small white card in front of the pop up flash so its light bounces up toward the ceiling. Again, you should get enough to trigger the mono's but not enough to affect the final exposure. ahh, good thought, I have a AF-360 FGZ flash, it has a built in diffuser. I also have an off camera cable for it, so I could simply point it at one of the monolights, facing away from the subject. With this method I could also do a rear curtain sync. Kind regards Kevin -- __ (_ \ _) ) | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / |_| \) \_||_| \) \) Kevin Waterson Port Macquarie, Australia
Re: photographing cigarette smoke
This one time, at band camp, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup. And if your model actually smokes, have her puff some out to her right to get more smoke for the light to catch. Yes, the model is a smoker. One thing to keep in mind is that the whole composition must support the shot, so don't be afraid to put her in a position to lead the eye toward the smoke. Having a really well-lit shot of the smoke can be nullified by having the rest of the picture appear awkward and distracting. gotcha, the model is a bit camera shy, totally out of character for her. I hope to be able to catch her relaxed. I would, as you say, like to compose to have the smoke as prominent as possible. I also learned that different brands of cigarettes smoke more than others. Kind regards Kevin -- __ (_ \ _) ) | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / |_| \) \_||_| \) \) Kevin Waterson Port Macquarie, Australia
Re: photographing cigarette smoke
At 09:51 AM 10/20/03, throwing caution to the wind, Kevin Waterson wrote: I took a few test snaps of a girl with a cigarette. I used a black backdrop to try to highlight the smoke but I think I need to do more. Any tips or advice greatfully appreciated. You can see the test snaps here http://www.wildcherry.com.au/images/smokin/s1.tif http://www.wildcherry.com.au/images/smokin/s2.tif http://www.wildcherry.com.au/images/smokin/s3.tif Kind regards Kevin Black background is a good idea, but the light is a little flat. Try a little more drama in the lighting. Oh, and these pix are very sexist.
Re: photographing cigarette smoke
If you wish to accentuate the smoke, pass strong light through it. Strong light through snoots can accentuate the smoke without lighting the model. Regards, Bob... Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine and women. Shall we then prohibit and abolish women? -Martin Luther From: Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I took a few test snaps of a girl with a cigarette. I used a black backdrop to try to highlight the smoke but I think I need to do more. Any tips or advice greatfully appreciated. You can see the test snaps here http://www.wildcherry.com.au/images/smokin/s1.tif http://www.wildcherry.com.au/images/smokin/s2.tif http://www.wildcherry.com.au/images/smokin/s3.tif
RE: photographing cigarette smoke
Sexistic. -Original Message- From: Doug Brewer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20-Oct-03 06:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: photographing cigarette smoke Oh, and these pix are very sexist.
Re: photographing cigarette smoke
This one time, at band camp, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 09:51 AM 10/20/03, throwing caution to the wind, Kevin Waterson wrote: Black background is a good idea, but the light is a little flat. Try a little more drama in the lighting. My lighting was set up with two heads with 2 stops difference placed like subject |__| Light Light popup flash It was a confined space, so we had little room to work with on this occasion Perhaps if I was to move the lights further apart and not used the pop up on the camera to trigger them. I shot this with an MZ-S, I will not be using that body for the next shots in favour of a K1000. Also I will not be using the Ilford 125 black and white film in favour of a Kodak TMax. Oh, and these pix are very sexist. Thanks for this feedback also. Could you please expand on this. I take all (constructive) criticisms on board for evaluation. I then look at what my goals are and how these fit in. Kind regards Kevin -- __ (_ \ _) ) | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / |_| \) \_||_| \) \) Kevin Waterson Port Macquarie, Australia
Re: photographing cigarette smoke
This one time, at band camp, Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you wish to accentuate the smoke, pass strong light through it. Strong light through snoots can accentuate the smoke without lighting the model. Thanks for you comments. An excellent idea. My question now is, from where should the light strike the smoke to most accentuate it? eg: from the side , behind, above, or in front? Kind regards Kevin -- __ (_ \ _) ) | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / |_| \) \_||_| \) \) Kevin Waterson Port Macquarie, Australia
Re: photographing cigarette smoke
- Original Message - From: Bucky Subject: RE: photographing cigarette smoke Sexistic. -Original Message- From: Oh, and these pix are very sexist. I thought they were deliberately trying to damage the baby with evil tobacco toxins... They should be arrested and jailed for child abuse. William Robb
Re: photographing cigarette smoke
On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 06:17 PM, Kevin Waterson wrote: My lighting was set up with two heads with 2 stops difference placed like subject |__| Light Light popup flash It was a confined space, so we had little room to work with on this occasion Perhaps if I was to move the lights further apart and not used the pop up on the camera to trigger them. If you want to emphasize the smoke, you need to light the smoke, which means less light on the rest of the set. Do you have any way to snoot the light? If you do, move the main light up and more to the left. If you don't have a snoot, try constructing one out of cardboard, then feather the fill light out to where the edge of the light shines on the model. Try a few set-ups and watch the differences in your shots. I think you have a good idea going here, now you just need to fine tune your lighting. I shot this with an MZ-S, I will not be using that body for the next shots in favour of a K1000. Also I will not be using the Ilford 125 black and white film in favour of a Kodak TMax. Why stop using the MZ-S? I'd probably 86 the pop-up and go with a synch cord, but the body isn't going to make that much difference. Oh, and these pix are very sexist. Thanks for this feedback also. Could you please expand on this. I take all (constructive) criticisms on board for evaluation. I then look at what my goals are and how these fit in. Um, in comedy, this is called a call back. I guess you missed the original thread, so don't worry about it. I was making a joke. Kind regards Kevin Doug
Re: photographing cigarette smoke
This one time, at band camp, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 06:17 PM, Kevin Waterson wrote: If you want to emphasize the smoke, you need to light the smoke, which means less light on the rest of the set. Do you have any way to snoot the light? If you do, move the main light up and more to the left. If you don't have a snoot, try constructing one out of cardboard, then feather the fill light out to where the edge of the light shines on the model. Try a few set-ups and watch the differences in your shots. I think you have a good idea going here, now you just need to fine tune your lighting. If I read you correctly here, something like this... subject facing ___ / / Main Light Fill Light || camera Why stop using the MZ-S? I'd probably 86 the pop-up and go with a synch cord, but the body isn't going to make that much difference. My reason here is that I have no sync cable for the MZ-S, which is why I had to use the pop-up to fire the mono-blocks. I have had no end of problems aquiring one of these, (another story for another day), I do however, have the sync cable for the K1000. And to get rid of the pop-up I need to change bodies. On the K1000, the film ISO ratings on the dial are 64 . 100 . . 200 What are the values of the dots? Kind regards Kevin -- __ (_ \ _) ) | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / |_| \) \_||_| \) \) Kevin Waterson Port Macquarie, Australia
