Re: Jumbo Spotmatic

2001-12-06 Thread Bob Rapp

JCO lamented on the optical and build quality of the Takumars and feels that
they reached their peak in 1971. He also noted that the build quality
deteriorated as Pentax moved from the K through the M and A series. The Ms
in particular were a dissapointment as they knocked the better Ks off the
shelf. This was for economic and compactness reasons. The As, in some focal
lengths improved somewhat optically, but the build quality did not.

Pentax, with the Limited series, has proven that they can build high quality
lenses to match the Takumars. It is sad to say that they are too late as
they have given up their pro market potential to Cannon and Nikon.

That being said, Mike, what other camera manufacturer enjoys the same level
of interest on the internet as Pentak with AOHC, Boz's, Stan's and
Yoshikiko's marvelous sites?

Bob rapp
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Re: Jumbo Spotmatic

2001-12-06 Thread Norman Baugher

I don't have any old screwmount stuff, but I do have and older Tak 105 6x7 and
the new 45 6x7. While there is a big difference in build quality, I'm not sure
the trade off is so bad re: weight factor...
Norm

Bob Rapp wrote:

 JCO lamented on the optical and build quality of the Takumars and feels that
 they reached their peak in 1971. He also noted that the build quality
 deteriorated as Pentax moved from the K through the M and A series. snip
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Re: Jumbo Spotmatic

2001-12-05 Thread Christian Skofteland

of course the opaque lens makes shooting in low (or any!) light a
nightmare

Christian Skofteland
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 Now all you screwmount fans can get jealous.
 Mines bigger than yours!!!
 http://www.gate.net/~hifisapi/jumbospot.jpg

 If it was operational the film size would be
 5 by 7 !
 JCO
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Re: Jumbo Spotmatic

2001-12-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola

Perhaps the large one is real and the smaller one is a model.

J. C. O'Connell wrote:

 Now all you screwmount fans can get jealous.
 Mines bigger than yours!!!
 http://www.gate.net/~hifisapi/jumbospot.jpg

 If it was operational the film size would be
 5 by 7 !
 JCO
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Re: Jumbo Spotmatic

2001-12-05 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Wednesday, December 5, 2001, at 04:46  PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:

 http://www.gate.net/~hifisapi/jumbospot.jpg


Oh oh oh!  That would make a KILLER fishbowl!

-Aaron
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Re: Jumbo Spotmatic

2001-12-05 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Wednesday, December 5, 2001, at 04:46  PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:

 Now all you screwmount fans can get jealous.
 Mines bigger than yours!!!
 http://www.gate.net/~hifisapi/jumbospot.jpg

Super Multi-Coated...with grey paint!

-Aaron

p.s. where'd you get it??
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RE: Jumbo Spotmatic

2001-12-05 Thread J. C. O'Connell

Yeah, it would have been a real nice touch if they
had installed a real piece of glass for the lens...
JCO 
 
 John,
 
 I know you're a pretty good trader, but you got taken on this 
 one!  It looks like the lens has a real bad case of fogging. g
 
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
  Now all you screwmount fans can get jealous.
  Mines bigger than yours!!!
  http://www.gate.net/~hifisapi/jumbospot.jpg
 
  If it was operational the film size would be
  5 by 7 !
  JCO
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RE: Jumbo Spotmatic

2001-12-05 Thread J. C. O'Connell

At least they had the decency to use a 
Super-Multi-Coated Takumar and not the piece
of crap SMC version they came out with later

This may be controversial but I think Pentax quality
peaked with the SPII of 1971 ( Thirty years ago ).
Yeah the SPF had open aperture metering but the finder
wasnt as good and the lenses took a step back when
the started using rubber and later plastic...

Super-Multi-Coated Takumars ( all metal and glass)
were the ultimate quality, SMC Tersions were lower quality,
K lower again, M lower again , A even lower, you get the picture...

JCO
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Re: Jumbo Spotmatic

2001-12-05 Thread William Kane

Nope,

   I remember this from a bit back.  Someone on ebay was selling the large
one, which was meant as a display for photo stores.  I forgot what it went
for, but this is the exact same picture they had posted.

Illinois Bill

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 Perhaps the large one is real and the smaller one is a model.

 J. C. O'Connell wrote:

  Now all you screwmount fans can get jealous.
  Mines bigger than yours!!!
  http://www.gate.net/~hifisapi/jumbospot.jpg
 
  If it was operational the film size would be
  5 by 7 !
  JCO
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RE: Jumbo Spotmatic

2001-12-05 Thread Collin Brendemuehl

So, JC, I hear you're getting into
really large format photography?

CRB

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Re: Jumbo Spotmatic

2001-12-05 Thread Bob Rapp

 At least they had the decency to use a
 Super-Multi-Coated Takumar and not the piece
 of crap SMC version they came out with later

 This may be controversial but I think Pentax quality
 peaked with the SPII of 1971 ( Thirty years ago ).
 Yeah the SPF had open aperture metering but the finder
 wasnt as good and the lenses took a step back when
 the started using rubber and later plastic...

 Super-Multi-Coated Takumars ( all metal and glass)
 were the ultimate quality, SMC Tersions were lower quality,
 K lower again, M lower again , A even lower, you get the picture...


I couldn't agree more! The older lenses are the most valued (not the most
value) in my collection. I actually use my old SPs more than I do my SPIIs
because on the smoother body due to no flash shoe.

Bob Rapp
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