Re: Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-12 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, mike wilson wrote:

 From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/07/11 Tue PM 02:40:20 GMT
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 Subject: Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

 Funny, but I used to date a Jewish Russian emigre.  She could rant.
 Boy could she rant!  She claimed it was a cultural thing, but after
 seeing Boris' rant, I'm beginning to wonder about her claim.  LOL

 There's a gender bias to that cultural thing.
 8-)))

I think I will wait for the pdmladies to exhaust themselves on you 
before I confirm that bunny-ears is not gay.

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Re: Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-12 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/07/11 Tue PM 09:28:28 GMT
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 On 7/11/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  There's a gender bias to that cultural thing.
  8-)))
 
 
 Who, me or her?  ;-)
 

Both of you, obviously. 8-)  Males can produce some spectacular rants but, for 
sustain, females win hands down.


Although JCO comes close.


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Re: Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-12 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/07/12 Wed AM 07:17:56 GMT
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 Subject: Re: Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)
 
 On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, mike wilson wrote:
 
  From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2006/07/11 Tue PM 02:40:20 GMT
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Subject: Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)
 
  Funny, but I used to date a Jewish Russian emigre.  She could rant.
  Boy could she rant!  She claimed it was a cultural thing, but after
  seeing Boris' rant, I'm beginning to wonder about her claim.  LOL
 
  There's a gender bias to that cultural thing.
  8-)))
 
 I think I will wait for the pdmladies to exhaust themselves on you 
 before I confirm that bunny-ears is not gay.

The fantasies that the first phrase generates do not bear public examination.  
I want to take the pictures for the second.

8-)


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RE Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-12 Thread Jens Bladt
Nothing wrong with the silver version either ;-)
I just recieved slides back made with this lens. A 360 degree panorama in
fact. They laook pretty good!
I'll have to wait for some bad wheater. Scanning all these slides, whike the
sun is shining doesn't seem right.
Yes, I guess my MZ-S will see a little juse again. I'm glad too that there's
film  - and 31mm lenses ;-)

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Emne: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)


Hello there.

Although I mostly shoot digital (*istD) I still have my trusty MZ-6.
It is always loaded with film (usually Fuji NPC 160) and I take it for
a spin every now and then.

Today I received the prints and scans from the most recent roll. It
took me roughly half a year to finish the roll *blush*. Mostly I've
been trying my limited lenses, notably 31 Ltd, and the fish eye zoom.

Man, it is amazing. This 31 Ltd lens is mind blowing... I have the
scans (roughly of 6 MegaPixels worth) which I will review and see if I
can post anything to underline my point here. Nevertheless, the 10x15
(cm) proofs look alive. You know, I usually (target) practice on my
daughter. Few shots are more or less impossible to express in words.
The quality is more than superb...

Well, I am not saying that I'll be abandoning *istD because of that.
But obviously my film camera will see more use.

Not to mention that (silver, darn it) MZ-6 with FG grip and black ;-)
31 Ltd balance very nicely in my hands... And the viewfinder view is
bloody bigger ;-).

Like Cotty keeps saying every now and then - Jumpin' Jupiter! ;-)

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Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-11 Thread keith_w
Boris Liberman wrote:
 Hello there.
 
 Although I mostly shoot digital (*istD) I still have my trusty MZ-6.
 It is always loaded with film (usually Fuji NPC 160) and I take it for
 a spin every now and then.
 
 Today I received the prints and scans from the most recent roll. It
 took me roughly half a year to finish the roll *blush*. 

Think of how long it might take if you were using an Olympus Pen!
To keep this germane, did Pentax ever make a half-frame?

keith whaley

 Mostly I've
 been trying my limited lenses, notably 31 Ltd, and the fish eye zoom.
 
 Man, it is amazing. This 31 Ltd lens is mind blowing... I have the
 scans (roughly of 6 MegaPixels worth) which I will review and see if I
 can post anything to underline my point here. Nevertheless, the 10x15
 (cm) proofs look alive. You know, I usually (target) practice on my
 daughter. Few shots are more or less impossible to express in words.
 The quality is more than superb...
 
 Well, I am not saying that I'll be abandoning *istD because of that.
 But obviously my film camera will see more use.
 
 Not to mention that (silver, darn it) MZ-6 with FG grip and black ;-)
 31 Ltd balance very nicely in my hands... And the viewfinder view is
 bloody bigger ;-).
 
 Like Cotty keeps saying every now and then - Jumpin' Jupiter! ;-)
 


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Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-11 Thread frank theriault
On 7/11/06, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello there.

 Although I mostly shoot digital (*istD) I still have my trusty MZ-6.
 It is always loaded with film (usually Fuji NPC 160) and I take it for
 a spin every now and then.

 Today I received the prints and scans from the most recent roll. It
 took me roughly half a year to finish the roll *blush*. Mostly I've
 been trying my limited lenses, notably 31 Ltd, and the fish eye zoom.

 Man, it is amazing. This 31 Ltd lens is mind blowing... I have the
 scans (roughly of 6 MegaPixels worth) which I will review and see if I
 can post anything to underline my point here. Nevertheless, the 10x15
 (cm) proofs look alive. You know, I usually (target) practice on my
 daughter. Few shots are more or less impossible to express in words.
 The quality is more than superb...

 Well, I am not saying that I'll be abandoning *istD because of that.
 But obviously my film camera will see more use.

 Not to mention that (silver, darn it) MZ-6 with FG grip and black ;-)
 31 Ltd balance very nicely in my hands... And the viewfinder view is
 bloody bigger ;-).

 Like Cotty keeps saying every now and then - Jumpin' Jupiter! ;-)

Film still rules, dude!

g

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Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-11 Thread Tom Reese
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Film still rules, dude!
 
 g
 
 cheers,
 frank the film guy

ahem THE film guy? 

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Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-11 Thread Steve Sharpe

  
  Well, I am not saying that I'll be abandoning *istD because of that.
  But obviously my film camera will see more use.

  Not to mention that (silver, darn it) MZ-6 with FG grip and black ;-)
  31 Ltd balance very nicely in my hands... And the viewfinder view is
  bloody bigger ;-).

  Like Cotty keeps saying every now and then - Jumpin' Jupiter! ;-)

Film still rules, dude!

I like to think that I have the best of both worlds. I shoot film but 
then scan it and work with the resulting digital files.

About 30 years ago I shot a bunch of astrophotos with GAF Anscochrome 
200 and 500. I am just getting around to scanning them. Even after 
all these years I cannot believe how nice they look!
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Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
So what about this was a rant? ]'-)

G

On Jul 11, 2006, at 12:51 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

 Although I mostly shoot digital (*istD) I still have my trusty MZ-6.
 It is always loaded with film (usually Fuji NPC 160) and I take it for
 a spin every now and then.

 Today I received the prints and scans from the most recent roll. It
 took me roughly half a year to finish the roll *blush*. Mostly I've
 been trying my limited lenses, notably 31 Ltd, and the fish eye zoom.

 Man, it is amazing. This 31 Ltd lens is mind blowing... I have the
 scans (roughly of 6 MegaPixels worth) which I will review and see if I
 can post anything to underline my point here. Nevertheless, the 10x15
 (cm) proofs look alive. You know, I usually (target) practice on my
 daughter. Few shots are more or less impossible to express in words.
 The quality is more than superb...

 Well, I am not saying that I'll be abandoning *istD because of that.
 But obviously my film camera will see more use.

 Not to mention that (silver, darn it) MZ-6 with FG grip and black ;-)
 31 Ltd balance very nicely in my hands... And the viewfinder view is
 bloody bigger ;-).

 Like Cotty keeps saying every now and then - Jumpin' Jupiter! ;-)


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Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-11 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 7/11/2006 6:44:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So what about this was a rant? ]'-)

G
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Thanks for asking that. I was wondering too.

Boris, you don't know how to rant. :-)

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Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-11 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

Marnie, Godders, I am mere 35 years old (not just yet, but soon, I
hope) and I am a member of PDML for how long - merely 3 or 4 years...
I've much to learn yet...

;-).

 In a message dated 7/11/2006 6:44:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 So what about this was a rant? ]'-)

 G
 ===
 Thanks for asking that. I was wondering too.

 Boris, you don't know how to rant. :-)

 Marnie aka Doe

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Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-11 Thread frank theriault
On 7/11/06, Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ahem THE film guy?

 Tom (another film guy) Reese

I didn't mean THE film guy (in caps).  I suppose I should have said,
frank, a film guy.

Or perhaps, frank, a film guy along with Tom, who's a film guy, too.

g

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Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-11 Thread frank theriault
On 7/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks for asking that. I was wondering too.

 Boris, you don't know how to rant. :-)

Funny, but I used to date a Jewish Russian emigre.  She could rant.
Boy could she rant!  She claimed it was a cultural thing, but after
seeing Boris' rant, I'm beginning to wonder about her claim.  LOL

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Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-11 Thread Boris Liberman
Frank, if I substitute rant for vent, will it help things? LOL



On 7/11/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 7/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Thanks for asking that. I was wondering too.
 
  Boris, you don't know how to rant. :-)

 Funny, but I used to date a Jewish Russian emigre.  She could rant.
 Boy could she rant!  She claimed it was a cultural thing, but after
 seeing Boris' rant, I'm beginning to wonder about her claim.  LOL

 cheers,
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Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-11 Thread David Savage
Not really. Ranting or venting implies that you were upset about
something and you decided to share your grievances with others. As the
saying goes, A problem shared is a problem halved

You original post read more like you had an epiphany (in its non
religious meaning. Though considering some of the film v digital
debates)

;-).

Dave

On 7/11/06, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Frank, if I substitute rant for vent, will it help things? LOL



 On 7/11/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 7/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Thanks for asking that. I was wondering too.
  
   Boris, you don't know how to rant. :-)
 
  Funny, but I used to date a Jewish Russian emigre.  She could rant.
  Boy could she rant!  She claimed it was a cultural thing, but after
  seeing Boris' rant, I'm beginning to wonder about her claim.  LOL
 
  cheers,
  frank

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Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jul 11, 2006, at 8:09 AM, David Savage wrote:

 Not really. Ranting or venting implies that you were upset about
 something and you decided to share your grievances with others. As the
 saying goes, A problem shared is a problem halved

 You original post read more like you had an epiphany (in its non
 religious meaning. Though considering some of the film v digital
 debates)

lol ... Going on in that vein, the thread will turn into yet another  
rant/vent/debate/stupid thing.  ;-)

I didn't see anything in Boris' initial post that suggested anything  
other than that he was delighted with the performance of his new  
lenses, he found he still likes his MZ-6 a lot, and that a  
photofinisher made a pretty nice set of prints from a roll of film  
shot with them. Drawing a conclusion about film vs digital quality,  
or that Boris had anything to be angry/surprised/outraged over (the  
usual reason for a rant) seems quite a lot to read into the  
message, and he didn't seem to be ranting at all in his message ...  
Thus my question.

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Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-11 Thread Scott Loveless
On 7/11/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 7/11/06, Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  ahem THE film guy?
 
  Tom (another film guy) Reese

 I didn't mean THE film guy (in caps).  I suppose I should have said,
 frank, a film guy.

 Or perhaps, frank, a film guy along with Tom, who's a film guy, too.

 g

 cheers,
 frank, a film guy along with Tom

What's this film stuff you two are going on about?

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Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-11 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Jul 11, 2006, at 11:59 AM, Scott Loveless wrote:

 What's this film stuff you two are going on about?

Heh -- has anyone gone to see Superman Returns on a big screen?  As 
both a Film (movie) Guy and a Film (the stuff you take pictures on) 
Guy, I have to say that the bell is tolling for motion picture film.  
While the second and third Star Wars prequels looked kind of crappy and 
acceptable, respectively, Superman Returns does not look like a film 
that was shot digitally.  In fact, I would say that it looks less 
digital than the Lord of the Rings films (which were shot on film and 
processed heavily in the digital realm).

I was really surprised -- I sat close and was prepared to be 
underwhelmed, and I wasn't.  It looked great, and that's not just my 
low expectations talking.

I thought when I heard that interview with Singer, the director, that 
his chatter about testing out all of the different motion picture 
formats and comparing them projected before making his choice was a 
load of publicity hooey (much like Lucas' no one noticed the one 
digital scene in the Phantom Menace -- I noticed it, it looked 
wretched), but I'm with Singer.  It looked better than Super 35 and yet 
held all of Super 35's advantages with lens lengths and depth of field.

(I saw it projected on film, by the way.)

Oh well.

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Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-11 Thread frank theriault
On 7/11/06, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 What's this film stuff you two are going on about?

Okay, Mr. I Developed My Own TriX @ GFM, Scanned It and Submitted The
Scans into the Digital Contest.  I guess you can be in the club, too.
 G

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Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-11 Thread Kenneth Waller
Or perhaps knarF a mlif guy?

Kenneth Waller

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 On 7/11/06, Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ahem THE film guy?

 Tom (another film guy) Reese
 
 I didn't mean THE film guy (in caps).  I suppose I should have said,
 frank, a film guy.
 
 Or perhaps, frank, a film guy along with Tom, who's a film guy, too.
 
 g
 
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Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-11 Thread frank theriault
On 7/11/06, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Or perhaps knarF a mlif guy?

LOL

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Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-11 Thread Mat Maessen
On 7/11/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Okay, Mr. I Developed My Own TriX @ GFM, Scanned It and Submitted The
 Scans into the Digital Contest.  I guess you can be in the club, too.

That reminds me, Mr. Frank-whose-prints-really-ARE-sharp, you still
owe me some information about what your photofinisher uses to develop
Tri-X. :-)

-Mat (who also still shoots film. And has _6_ rolls of Provia from GFM
still to scan...)

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Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-11 Thread Scott Loveless
On 7/11/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 7/11/06, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  What's this film stuff you two are going on about?

 Okay, Mr. I Developed My Own TriX @ GFM, Scanned It and Submitted The
 Scans into the Digital Contest.  I guess you can be in the club, too.
  G



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Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-11 Thread P. J. Alling
Snob.

frank theriault wrote:

On 7/11/06, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  

What's this film stuff you two are going on about?



Okay, Mr. I Developed My Own TriX @ GFM, Scanned It and Submitted The
Scans into the Digital Contest.  I guess you can be in the club, too.
 G

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Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-11 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

 I didn't see anything in Boris' initial post that suggested anything  
 other than that he was delighted with the performance of his new  
 lenses, he found he still likes his MZ-6 a lot, and that a  
 photofinisher made a pretty nice set of prints from a roll of film  
 shot with them. Drawing a conclusion about film vs digital quality,  
 or that Boris had anything to be angry/surprised/outraged over (the  
 usual reason for a rant) seems quite a lot to read into the  
 message, and he didn't seem to be ranting at all in his message ...  
 Thus my question.

Well, I guess I really don't know how to rant properly. You could call 
it rant^-1 or 1/rant or anti-rant if you want ;-).

Boris

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Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-11 Thread frank theriault
On 7/11/06, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Well, I guess I really don't know how to rant properly. You could call
 it rant^-1 or 1/rant or anti-rant if you want ;-).


What happens if a rant comes into contact with an anti-rant?

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Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-11 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

frank theriault wrote:
 On 7/11/06, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Well, I guess I really don't know how to rant properly. You could call
 it rant^-1 or 1/rant or anti-rant if you want ;-).

 
 What happens if a rant comes into contact with an anti-rant?

GESO of four images?

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Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-11 Thread Jostein Øksne
Frank wrote:
 What happens if a rant comes into contact with an anti-rant?

um...
They form a cormorant?

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Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-11 Thread P. J. Alling
The universe implodes.

frank theriault wrote:

On 7/11/06, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

Well, I guess I really don't know how to rant properly. You could call
it rant^-1 or 1/rant or anti-rant if you want ;-).




What happens if a rant comes into contact with an anti-rant?

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Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-11 Thread frank theriault
On 7/11/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The universe implodes.

Close.

The universe ~as we know it~ implodes.

There could be a difference.  But, you're close enough that you win
the prize.  You must have read Superman comix when you were a kid (or
maybe you do now).

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Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-11 Thread frank theriault
On 7/11/06, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 GESO of four images?

Does one need a Lomo for that?

g

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Re: Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-11 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/07/11 Tue PM 02:40:20 GMT
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 Subject: Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)
 
 On 7/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Thanks for asking that. I was wondering too.
 
  Boris, you don't know how to rant. :-)
 
 Funny, but I used to date a Jewish Russian emigre.  She could rant.
 Boy could she rant!  She claimed it was a cultural thing, but after
 seeing Boris' rant, I'm beginning to wonder about her claim.  LOL

There's a gender bias to that cultural thing. 
8-)))


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Re: Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-11 Thread frank theriault
On 7/11/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There's a gender bias to that cultural thing.
 8-)))


Who, me or her?  ;-)

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Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-11 Thread P. J. Alling
It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it,
and I fee fine.

frank theriault wrote:

On 7/11/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

The universe implodes.



Close.

The universe ~as we know it~ implodes.

There could be a difference.  But, you're close enough that you win
the prize.  You must have read Superman comix when you were a kid (or
maybe you do now).

cheers,
frank
  



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Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-11 Thread Kenneth Waller
Goo, I'm gla to ear it.

Kenneth Waller

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 It's the end of the world as we know it.
 It's the end of the world as we know it.
 It's the end of the world as we know it,
 and I fee fine.
 
 frank theriault wrote:
 
On 7/11/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

The universe implodes.



Close.

The universe ~as we know it~ implodes.

There could be a difference.  But, you're close enough that you win
the prize.  You must have read Superman comix when you were a kid (or
maybe you do now).

cheers,
frank
  

 
 
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Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-11 Thread Doug Franklin
Scott Loveless wrote:

 Shoot more mlif!

That's _way_ too close to milf. ;-

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Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-11 Thread Scott Loveless
On 7/11/06, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Scott Loveless wrote:

  Shoot more mlif!

 That's _way_ too close to milf. ;-

Yeah, but you don't _shoot_ those.
g

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Re: Just a little rant (or not rant?!)

2006-07-11 Thread Doug Franklin
Scott Loveless wrote:
 On 7/11/06, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Scott Loveless wrote:

 Shoot more mlif!
 That's _way_ too close to milf. ;-

 Yeah, but you don't _shoot_ those.
 g

U, not going there. No way, no how. ;-

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