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My sincere condolences to all the people who are a victim of this attack. -- Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Mar 13, 2004, at 10:39 PM, Mishka wrote: but that's way offtopic now. mishka Therefore, I won't respond.
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I On Mar 14, 2004, at 3:11 AM, Carlos Royo wrote: Things over here (Spain) are bitter enough, and I wouldn't like to see such kind of infectious bitterness in the PDML. Many of us have different views about politics, but I have enjoyed this list as a place where I can meet people from a lot of countries who have in common much more than a taste for photography or Pentax, and I am sure that, despite the differences about politics, we share the same essential values. So, let there be peace, at least here in the PDML. I agree. My comment was not meant to be political. I apologize if it caused any provocation.
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perdoname, no quiere hacer una declaración política. espero que esta herida cure pronto. paz! mishka Carlos Royo wrote: Paul Stenquist escribió: On Mar 13, 2004, at 7:49 PM, frank theriault wrote: SPAIN WILL NOT STAND FOR ANOTHER ATTACK. Yes, Spain has stood tall in the war against terror. A war that won't be won with diplomacy, newspaper editorials, or UN debates. Paul, Frank, Mishka, Cotty and all the rest who have expressed their condolences (I have not written all your names, but you know who you are), I want to say thank you to all of you for your support. I don't want this thread to become a political discussion, this is not the place or the time for such thing. Things over here (Spain) are bitter enough, and I wouldn't like to see such kind of infectious bitterness in the PDML. Many of us have different views about politics, but I have enjoyed this list as a place where I can meet people from a lot of countries who have in common much more than a taste for photography or Pentax, and I am sure that, despite the differences about politics, we share the same essential values. So, let there be peace, at least here in the PDML.
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One of the most evil men in history, Stalin, said that the death of one person is a tragedy, however the death of thousands is a statistic (I'm paraphrasing here). When we're forced to deal with such irrational events as 200 dead in the recent attack in Spain, it's all to easy to forget that these people, who were innocently going about their daily routine, leave behind grieving spouses and partners, children who will never again know that parent, parents who will take the pain of a predeceased child to their grave. Scores of living victims will deal with the horrors of lingering injuries, both physical and emotional, for the balance of their lives. I guess that we ~have~ to deal with such large numbers of victims as abstractions, in order to continue in our day to day lives. But, we can't think that way, or it will keep happening over and over again. We have to understand the human cost of these horrific events if they're ever to be stopped. My thoughts go out to the victims (both deceased and alive) and their families. My thoughts go to the country of Spain. My thoughts go to humanity, who continues to kill members of its own species for the most frivolous of reasons. -frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT - Spain suffers Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 07:30:42 +0200 Hi! C I remember feeling a deep sympathy with America over 911. I would just C like to register a similar sympathy here over the tragic events here in C Europe. Although not on the same scale as the New York travesty, the C confusion and sorrow is no less powerful. C I know our Spanish friends are shocked and concerned at the moment, and C surely our hearts go out to them at this time. Cotty, at al, let me join you in expressing my deep sympathy to the people of Madrid who lost their close ones. Let it be clear - even a death of one person from such an event like that in Madrid is most sorrowful. No one deserves to die or be injured from the terrorist attack. No one! Boris - from the country that is bleeding since it has been founded. _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
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My family and I are deeply saddened by the events in Spain. To Carlos and our other PDML family members from Spain, please know our thoughts and prayers, our sympathy and grief, are with you. It is so terrible, so destructive, so inhuman, and so incomprehensible. -- John Mustarde www.photolin.com
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There was an unfortunate feeling of deja vu when I saw this on the news. All politics aside, I think we all have to wonder how this loss of life makes sense to anyone. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: To Carlos and our other Spanish pdml readers, we send you our sympathy and condolences. None of these people deserved to have their lives cut short by the whim of some zealots. Frank said it well in a previous post. Regards, Bob S. Thanks again to all who have expressed their solidarity and condolences to the people of Spain. I am not from Madrid, but more than 11.000.000 Spaniards took the streets all over the country yesterday to show our unity against terrorism. Thanks for your thoughts for the families and the injured (more than 1.400), they are the ones who need all the possible support from everybody, now and in future. I can't say how grateful I am. Your simpathy is enormously appreciated, much more when we see that our government is concealing information about who are the responsible for the bombings and are trying to divert attention towards ETA (who are as despisable as the ones who performed the attacks, but this time they are not behind this carnage), because we have an election tomorrow and those liars want to keep power at all costs. Carlos Royo - Zaragoza (Aragon), Spain The struggle of people against power is the struggle of memory against forgetting Milan Kundera (La lucha del pueblo contra el poder es la lucha de la memoria contra el olvido)
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Carlos, As I sat at my favourite cafe this morning, with my usual weekend espresso and a newspaper, tears rolled down my cheeks, as I read of the incredible courage of your countrymen and women. Despite the all to real threat of further attacks, I read and saw photos of millions of Spaniards taking to the streets, telling the world, and the terrorists in particular (whoever they were), that SPAIN WILL NOT STAND FOR ANOTHER ATTACK. No matter what your government or police or security forces will do about this, your citizens made a bold and brave statement that won't be forgotten. I know you are grieving right now, Carlos, but you can certainly hold your head high, that you are a Spaniard today. thank you, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Spain suffers Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 23:09:24 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: To Carlos and our other Spanish pdml readers, we send you our sympathy and condolences. None of these people deserved to have their lives cut short by the whim of some zealots. Frank said it well in a previous post. Regards, Bob S. Thanks again to all who have expressed their solidarity and condolences to the people of Spain. I am not from Madrid, but more than 11.000.000 Spaniards took the streets all over the country yesterday to show our unity against terrorism. Thanks for your thoughts for the families and the injured (more than 1.400), they are the ones who need all the possible support from everybody, now and in future. I can't say how grateful I am. Your simpathy is enormously appreciated, much more when we see that our government is concealing information about who are the responsible for the bombings and are trying to divert attention towards ETA (who are as despisable as the ones who performed the attacks, but this time they are not behind this carnage), because we have an election tomorrow and those liars want to keep power at all costs. Carlos Royo - Zaragoza (Aragon), Spain The struggle of people against power is the struggle of memory against forgetting Milan Kundera (La lucha del pueblo contra el poder es la lucha de la memoria contra el olvido) _ MSN Premium with Virus Guard and Firewall* from McAfee® Security : 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
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On Mar 13, 2004, at 7:49 PM, frank theriault wrote: SPAIN WILL NOT STAND FOR ANOTHER ATTACK. Yes, Spain has stood tall in the war against terror. A war that won't be won with diplomacy, newspaper editorials, or UN debates.
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Yes, I, too, grieve about what happened in Spain. Jim A. From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 22:21:55 + To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT - Spain suffers Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 17:22:02 -0500 I remember feeling a deep sympathy with America over 911. I would just like to register a similar sympathy here over the tragic events here in Europe. Although not on the same scale as the New York travesty, the confusion and sorrow is no less powerful. I know our Spanish friends are shocked and concerned at the moment, and surely our hearts go out to them at this time. Needed saying. Apologies for the OT. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
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Hi! C I remember feeling a deep sympathy with America over 911. I would just C like to register a similar sympathy here over the tragic events here in C Europe. Although not on the same scale as the New York travesty, the C confusion and sorrow is no less powerful. C I know our Spanish friends are shocked and concerned at the moment, and C surely our hearts go out to them at this time. Cotty, at al, let me join you in expressing my deep sympathy to the people of Madrid who lost their close ones. Let it be clear - even a death of one person from such an event like that in Madrid is most sorrowful. No one deserves to die or be injured from the terrorist attack. No one! Boris - from the country that is bleeding since it has been founded.
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No need to apologize. Cotty wrote: I remember feeling a deep sympathy with America over 911. I would just like to register a similar sympathy here over the tragic events here in Europe. Although not on the same scale as the New York travesty, the confusion and sorrow is no less powerful. I know our Spanish friends are shocked and concerned at the moment, and surely our hearts go out to them at this time. Needed saying. Apologies for the OT. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
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Thanks for your sympathy and consolation, Cotty. They are very important in this moment of grief. Carlos Royo - Zaragoza (Aragon), Spain The struggle of people against power is the struggle of memory against forgetting Milan Kundera (La lucha del pueblo contra el poder es la lucha de la memoria contra el olvido)
