Re: OT: best all-in-one PC?
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Re: OT: best all-in-one PC?
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Re: OT: best all-in-one PC?
Changing platforms via an upgrade is the easiest route. You just buy the upgrade version of the suite for the new platform and when you do the installation it will probably reject your existing product key. You ring up Adobe support and explain the situation and they will give you a new one that will work (don't forget to write that one down) and away you go. I've converted a couple of suites this way and also dealt with products that have been upgraded so many times that the original product key no longer worked (originally you kept the same key when upgrading, now they give you a new one) and each time Adobe support was very helpful. Paul Ewins Melbourne, Australia On 14/07/2011, at 7:05 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Thanks. I'll look into it. She needs the Adobe Creative Suite for graphic > designers. CS5 is the current version. Expensive stuff, but she has a PC > version of CS3. > Paul > > On Jul 13, 2011, at 5:01 PM, steve harley wrote: > >> On 2011-07-13 13:50 , Paul Stenquist wrote: >>> My daughter needs a new computer. She wants an iMac but can't afford new >>> software, so she's probably going to have to get a PC. I've seen some PCs >>> that are basically iMac style -- a processor built into a nice 23-inch >>> monitor. One I noticed was the Dell Inspiron One, but the reviews say it's >>> kind of slow with its AMD processor. Is there a better box available at a >>> reasonable price? >> >> what's your price range? B&H has a great price on the last generation 27" >> iMac right now -- $1400; if you have a Windows license you can install it >> under BootCamp or you can use Virtual Box (free) or VMWware or Parallels >> (around $60) to run Windows very smoothly and keep all those programs >> >> and what are the programs she can't afford? in many cases there is something >> included with the Mac or available as freeware that does what an average >> user needs >> >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: best all-in-one PC?
From: steve harley On 2011-07-13 15:05 , Paul Stenquist wrote: Thanks. I'll look into it. She needs the Adobe Creative Suite for graphic designers. CS5 is the current version. Expensive stuff, but she has a PC version of CS3. Adobe has a "cross-grade" program, but i'm pretty sure it's only for current versions; i expect CS3 would run acceptably under Parallels or VMWare, and quite well under Boot Camp Current version only. She'd have to already have CS5 to "cross-grade". But, if/when she decides to upgrade to the current version, she can switch platforms for no additional charge beyond the upgrade price. Which can still be substantial. Adobe is EXPENSIVE! - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1516/3761 - Release Date: 07/12/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: best all-in-one PC?
If she has a registered version of CS3, Adobe allows platform swaps as part of the upgrade process, so she could get the Mac version of CS5 for the same price as upgrading the Windows version. Or if she already had the Windows version of CS5 she could do the platform swap for free. From: Paul Stenquist Thanks. I'll look into it. She needs the Adobe Creative Suite for graphic designers. CS5 is the current version. Expensive stuff, but she has a PC version of CS3. Paul On Jul 13, 2011, at 5:01 PM, steve harley wrote: On 2011-07-13 13:50 , Paul Stenquist wrote: My daughter needs a new computer. She wants an iMac but can't afford new software, so she's probably going to have to get a PC. I've seen some PCs that are basically iMac style -- a processor built into a nice 23-inch monitor. One I noticed was the Dell Inspiron One, but the reviews say it's kind of slow with its AMD processor. Is there a better box available at a reasonable price? what's your price range? B&H has a great price on the last generation 27" iMac right now -- $1400; if you have a Windows license you can install it under BootCamp or you can use Virtual Box (free) or VMWware or Parallels (around $60) to run Windows very smoothly and keep all those programs and what are the programs she can't afford? in many cases there is something included with the Mac or available as freeware that does what an average user needs - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1516/3761 - Release Date: 07/12/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: best all-in-one PC?
From: Paul Stenquist My daughter needs a new computer. She wants an iMac but can't afford new software, so she's probably going to have to get a PC. I've seen some PCs that are basically iMac style -- a processor built into a nice 23-inch monitor. One I noticed was the Dell Inspiron One, but the reviews say it's kind of slow with its AMD processor. Is there a better box available at a reasonable price? Paul I am not a Mac person ... BUT. I haven't seen an all-in-one PC that I thought worked adequately. With a PC you're better off getting a generic box where you can upgrade components if you need to later. You never want anything in a PC that has a proprietary form factor. If an all-in-one is what she wants, she would probably be better off with a Mac. I'm pretty sure the latest Macs based on Intel processors can also be set to run Windoze if she needs to continue to use her legacy software. And some companies will allow you to exchange Windoze versions for Mac versions without gouging you on price if you're changing platforms. Other companies ship both Windows & Mac versions in the same box, so she might already have the Mac version of the software laying around somewhere. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1516/3761 - Release Date: 07/12/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: best all-in-one PC?
On 2011-07-13 15:05 , Paul Stenquist wrote: Thanks. I'll look into it. She needs the Adobe Creative Suite for graphic designers. CS5 is the current version. Expensive stuff, but she has a PC version of CS3. Adobe has a "cross-grade" program, but i'm pretty sure it's only for current versions; i expect CS3 would run acceptably under Parallels or VMWare, and quite well under Boot Camp -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: best all-in-one PC?
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Thanks. I'll look into it. She needs the Adobe Creative Suite for graphic > designers. CS5 is the current version. Expensive stuff, but she has a PC > version of CS3. http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/faq.html Q: I have a Mac OS version, but I just bought a Windows system. Can I use my original serial number on Windows? A: You can transfer licenses between OS versions. Contact an Adobe sales representative for more information. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: best all-in-one PC?
Excellent. Thanks to all for the info and advice. Paul On Jul 13, 2011, at 5:07 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > If she uses the Windows version for now, under an emulator, I believe she can > cross-grade to the Mac version later when upgrading is necessary. > > -bmw > > On 11-07-13 5:05 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >> Thanks. I'll look into it. She needs the Adobe Creative Suite for graphic >> designers. CS5 is the current version. Expensive stuff, but she has a PC >> version of CS3. >> Paul >> >> On Jul 13, 2011, at 5:01 PM, steve harley wrote: >> >>> On 2011-07-13 13:50 , Paul Stenquist wrote: My daughter needs a new computer. She wants an iMac but can't afford new software, so she's probably going to have to get a PC. I've seen some PCs that are basically iMac style -- a processor built into a nice 23-inch monitor. One I noticed was the Dell Inspiron One, but the reviews say it's kind of slow with its AMD processor. Is there a better box available at a reasonable price? >>> what's your price range? B&H has a great price on the last generation 27" >>> iMac right now -- $1400; if you have a Windows license you can install it >>> under BootCamp or you can use Virtual Box (free) or VMWware or Parallels >>> (around $60) to run Windows very smoothly and keep all those programs >>> >>> and what are the programs she can't afford? in many cases there is >>> something included with the Mac or available as freeware that does what an >>> average user needs >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: best all-in-one PC?
Thanks. I'll look into it. She needs the Adobe Creative Suite for graphic designers. CS5 is the current version. Expensive stuff, but she has a PC version of CS3. Paul On Jul 13, 2011, at 5:01 PM, steve harley wrote: > On 2011-07-13 13:50 , Paul Stenquist wrote: >> My daughter needs a new computer. She wants an iMac but can't afford new >> software, so she's probably going to have to get a PC. I've seen some PCs >> that are basically iMac style -- a processor built into a nice 23-inch >> monitor. One I noticed was the Dell Inspiron One, but the reviews say it's >> kind of slow with its AMD processor. Is there a better box available at a >> reasonable price? > > what's your price range? B&H has a great price on the last generation 27" > iMac right now -- $1400; if you have a Windows license you can install it > under BootCamp or you can use Virtual Box (free) or VMWware or Parallels > (around $60) to run Windows very smoothly and keep all those programs > > and what are the programs she can't afford? in many cases there is something > included with the Mac or available as freeware that does what an average user > needs > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: best all-in-one PC?
If she uses the Windows version for now, under an emulator, I believe she can cross-grade to the Mac version later when upgrading is necessary. -bmw On 11-07-13 5:05 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Thanks. I'll look into it. She needs the Adobe Creative Suite for graphic designers. CS5 is the current version. Expensive stuff, but she has a PC version of CS3. Paul On Jul 13, 2011, at 5:01 PM, steve harley wrote: On 2011-07-13 13:50 , Paul Stenquist wrote: My daughter needs a new computer. She wants an iMac but can't afford new software, so she's probably going to have to get a PC. I've seen some PCs that are basically iMac style -- a processor built into a nice 23-inch monitor. One I noticed was the Dell Inspiron One, but the reviews say it's kind of slow with its AMD processor. Is there a better box available at a reasonable price? what's your price range? B&H has a great price on the last generation 27" iMac right now -- $1400; if you have a Windows license you can install it under BootCamp or you can use Virtual Box (free) or VMWware or Parallels (around $60) to run Windows very smoothly and keep all those programs and what are the programs she can't afford? in many cases there is something included with the Mac or available as freeware that does what an average user needs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: best all-in-one PC?
On 2011-07-13 13:50 , Paul Stenquist wrote: My daughter needs a new computer. She wants an iMac but can't afford new software, so she's probably going to have to get a PC. I've seen some PCs that are basically iMac style -- a processor built into a nice 23-inch monitor. One I noticed was the Dell Inspiron One, but the reviews say it's kind of slow with its AMD processor. Is there a better box available at a reasonable price? what's your price range? B&H has a great price on the last generation 27" iMac right now -- $1400; if you have a Windows license you can install it under BootCamp or you can use Virtual Box (free) or VMWware or Parallels (around $60) to run Windows very smoothly and keep all those programs and what are the programs she can't afford? in many cases there is something included with the Mac or available as freeware that does what an average user needs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: best all-in-one PC?
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: > Just a thought - it is often feasible, and morally and legally correct, to > move software from an old > computer to a new one. Second thought - much software comes packaged for > either a Windows or > Mac. So, mighten she have the option of an iMac and > then moving her software over? Alternatively, > she could use all of her old > Windows software on the iMac in emulation mode, gradually shift to > Mac versions when it is time for upgrades. Nothing says she can't boot Windows on the iMac. In fact, it's supported from Apple. If you use Parallels, you can be running Windows apps and Mac apps at the same time. Just don't be skimpy on the memory. And of the "all-in-one" computers out there, the only one I'd trust is the iMac. -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: best all-in-one PC?
On Jul 13, 2011, at 3:50 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > My daughter needs a new computer. She wants an iMac but can't afford new > software, so she's probably going to have to get a PC. I've seen some PCs > that are basically iMac style -- a processor built into a nice 23-inch > monitor. One I noticed was the Dell Inspiron One, but the reviews say it's > kind of slow with its AMD processor. Is there a better box available at a > reasonable price? > > Paul Just a thought - it is often feasible, and morally and legally correct, to move software from an old computer to a new one. Second thought - much software comes packaged for either a Windows or Mac. So, mighten she have the option of an iMac and then moving her software over? Alternatively, she could use all of her old Windows software on the iMac in emulation mode, gradually shift to Mac versions when it is time for upgrades. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
