Re: PESO for the motorcycle geeks
On Sep 9, 2012, at 4:05 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Who knew brakes could be sexy? I have a sexy scar on my knee from grabbing the lever of an immensely powerful hydraulic disc brake while absent-mindedly thinking it was a rim brake as on my commuting bike :) Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 9/8/12 9:22 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: I *loved* my 1986 Honda VFR. Wish I'd been able to keep it in addition to the Triumph but it just wasn't possible. Honda made every redesign of that bike worse after 86-87: More and more electronic gizmos, linked brakes, pseudo VTEC valve system... and now it's a 1200cc behemoth with shaft drive. Oh yes, and they got uglier every year after the 86-87 model. The only Honda I ever lusted after was the RC-30 but I'm glad I was never able to afford one because they apparently were better race bikes than street bikes: the hand-laid fiberglass was beautiful but much more porous than the cheaper machine-made fiberglass (or ABS plastic), so the paint bubbled and peeled after a few years; two-ring pistons are nice for getting minimum friction/maximum horsepower but they let the bike burn oil at a prodigious rate. I'd love to get something silly like a Royan Enfield for tooling around Boston. I pondered a Royal Enfield a few years back, and still wouldn't mind having one. They are gloriously weird. An '86 Interceptor 500 would go nicely in my garage. Great balance of power to weight, they figured out the valve thing by then, and the red/white/blue color scheme is still distinctive. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I only saw two Royal Enfields in India. Mostly 125 Japanese brands. On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: On 9/8/12 9:22 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: I *loved* my 1986 Honda VFR. Wish I'd been able to keep it in addition to the Triumph but it just wasn't possible. Honda made every redesign of that bike worse after 86-87: More and more electronic gizmos, linked brakes, pseudo VTEC valve system... and now it's a 1200cc behemoth with shaft drive. Oh yes, and they got uglier every year after the 86-87 model. The only Honda I ever lusted after was the RC-30 but I'm glad I was never able to afford one because they apparently were better race bikes than street bikes: the hand-laid fiberglass was beautiful but much more porous than the cheaper machine-made fiberglass (or ABS plastic), so the paint bubbled and peeled after a few years; two-ring pistons are nice for getting minimum friction/maximum horsepower but they let the bike burn oil at a prodigious rate. I'd love to get something silly like a Royan Enfield for tooling around Boston. I pondered a Royal Enfield a few years back, and still wouldn't mind having one. They are gloriously weird. An '86 Interceptor 500 would go nicely in my garage. Great balance of power to weight, they figured out the valve thing by then, and the red/white/blue color scheme is still distinctive. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 9/8/2012 8:33 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Every time a young punk totals his Kawasaki ZX-7 a Triumph Sprint owner gets to upgrade his brake calipers with parts from the salvage yard :-) http://www.robertstech.com/temp/brakes.jpg Hmmm, isn't ZX-7 a Pentax (defunct film) camera model? :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That's what Kawasakis are for: Parts. Nice Upgrade, BTW. On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Every time a young punk totals his Kawasaki ZX-7 a Triumph Sprint owner gets to upgrade his brake calipers with parts from the salvage yard :-) http://www.robertstech.com/temp/brakes.jpg -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Steven Desjardins wrote: That's what Kawasakis are for: Parts. Ooh, that's a bit harsh! Watch tomorrow's World Superbike Championship races (Germany) and you'll see what a Kawasaki is good for in the hands of someone who knows how to use it! (Go Tom Sykes!) Nice Upgrade, BTW. The original calipers always had problems and no amount of bleeding could achieve a good, solid brake lever feel. These are much better. Lever effort is a bit high and if it doesn't improve as the pads bed in I'll try different pads. If that doesn't achieve braking nirvana I'm told a master cylinder from a Suzuki Hayabusa works a treat! (Now *that's* a squid bike that's only good for parts!) http://www.robertstech.com/temp/brakes.jpg -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Nice! Are those 6 piston? Seems like overkill? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com Subject: PESO for the motorcycle geeks Every time a young punk totals his Kawasaki ZX-7 a Triumph Sprint owner gets to upgrade his brake calipers with parts from the salvage yard :-) http://www.robertstech.com/temp/brakes.jpg -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 9/8/12 1:33 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Every time a young punk totals his Kawasaki ZX-7 a Triumph Sprint owner gets to upgrade his brake calipers with parts from the salvage yard :-) http://www.robertstech.com/temp/brakes.jpg nice. was this bolt and go? I don't think I ever did a mod that didn't mean a chain of set-up, -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Doug Brewer wrote: On 9/8/12 1:33 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Every time a young punk totals his Kawasaki ZX-7 a Triumph Sprint owner gets to upgrade his brake calipers with parts from the salvage yard :-) http://www.robertstech.com/temp/brakes.jpg nice. was this bolt and go? Yep. Bolt and go. Or bolt and stop, in this case. A whole lot of bikes from the 1996-2007 period used Tokico brakes with the same disc size and mounting setup. These 6-piston calipers were particularly common. I don't think I ever did a mod that didn't mean a chain of set-up, I know the feeling. But I'm not going to go there with this bike. On the other hand, I *am* going to do some suspension upgrades next spring... -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I would have said the same thing for Honda. I can't pick on Suzuki because Debbie has one. On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Steven Desjardins wrote: That's what Kawasakis are for: Parts. Ooh, that's a bit harsh! Watch tomorrow's World Superbike Championship races (Germany) and you'll see what a Kawasaki is good for in the hands of someone who knows how to use it! (Go Tom Sykes!) Nice Upgrade, BTW. The original calipers always had problems and no amount of bleeding could achieve a good, solid brake lever feel. These are much better. Lever effort is a bit high and if it doesn't improve as the pads bed in I'll try different pads. If that doesn't achieve braking nirvana I'm told a master cylinder from a Suzuki Hayabusa works a treat! (Now *that's* a squid bike that's only good for parts!) http://www.robertstech.com/temp/brakes.jpg -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 08/09/2012 20:17, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Nice! Are those 6 piston? Seems like overkill? Until _all_ of the squealing is coming from the tyres, there is no such thing as brake overkill. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com Subject: PESO for the motorcycle geeks Every time a young punk totals his Kawasaki ZX-7 a Triumph Sprint owner gets to upgrade his brake calipers with parts from the salvage yard :-) http://www.robertstech.com/temp/brakes.jpg -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- No fixed Adobe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Steven Desjardins wrote: On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Steven Desjardins wrote: That's what Kawasakis are for: Parts. Ooh, that's a bit harsh! Watch tomorrow's World Superbike Championship races (Germany) and you'll see what a Kawasaki is good for in the hands of someone who knows how to use it! (Go Tom Sykes!) Nice Upgrade, BTW. The original calipers always had problems and no amount of bleeding could achieve a good, solid brake lever feel. These are much better. Lever effort is a bit high and if it doesn't improve as the pads bed in I'll try different pads. If that doesn't achieve braking nirvana I'm told a master cylinder from a Suzuki Hayabusa works a treat! (Now *that's* a squid bike that's only good for parts!) I would have said the same thing for Honda. I can't pick on Suzuki because Debbie has one. I *loved* my 1986 Honda VFR. Wish I'd been able to keep it in addition to the Triumph but it just wasn't possible. Honda made every redesign of that bike worse after 86-87: More and more electronic gizmos, linked brakes, pseudo VTEC valve system... and now it's a 1200cc behemoth with shaft drive. Oh yes, and they got uglier every year after the 86-87 model. The only Honda I ever lusted after was the RC-30 but I'm glad I was never able to afford one because they apparently were better race bikes than street bikes: the hand-laid fiberglass was beautiful but much more porous than the cheaper machine-made fiberglass (or ABS plastic), so the paint bubbled and peeled after a few years; two-ring pistons are nice for getting minimum friction/maximum horsepower but they let the bike burn oil at a prodigious rate. I'd love to get something silly like a Royan Enfield for tooling around Boston. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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mike wilson wrote: On 08/09/2012 20:17, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Nice! Are those 6 piston? Seems like overkill? Until _all_ of the squealing is coming from the tyres, there is no such thing as brake overkill. My road racer was a Yam FZR 400. The Triumph will never decelerate like that bike (I used to pull small stoppies coming into turn 12 at Nelson Ledges just for fun) unless I spend 5-figure sums on Brembos. Not gonna happen. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I have no issues with any brand, really. My biggest regretted no-purchase was 3 years ago. A 76 Honda CBR750a (14000 miles) with a Texas Sidecar for $3K. Great condition, ran well, etc. The a had an automatic transmission while was evidently fairly bulletproof. I had convinced myself to buy it but changed my mind. On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Steven Desjardins wrote: On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Steven Desjardins wrote: That's what Kawasakis are for: Parts. Ooh, that's a bit harsh! Watch tomorrow's World Superbike Championship races (Germany) and you'll see what a Kawasaki is good for in the hands of someone who knows how to use it! (Go Tom Sykes!) Nice Upgrade, BTW. The original calipers always had problems and no amount of bleeding could achieve a good, solid brake lever feel. These are much better. Lever effort is a bit high and if it doesn't improve as the pads bed in I'll try different pads. If that doesn't achieve braking nirvana I'm told a master cylinder from a Suzuki Hayabusa works a treat! (Now *that's* a squid bike that's only good for parts!) I would have said the same thing for Honda. I can't pick on Suzuki because Debbie has one. I *loved* my 1986 Honda VFR. Wish I'd been able to keep it in addition to the Triumph but it just wasn't possible. Honda made every redesign of that bike worse after 86-87: More and more electronic gizmos, linked brakes, pseudo VTEC valve system... and now it's a 1200cc behemoth with shaft drive. Oh yes, and they got uglier every year after the 86-87 model. The only Honda I ever lusted after was the RC-30 but I'm glad I was never able to afford one because they apparently were better race bikes than street bikes: the hand-laid fiberglass was beautiful but much more porous than the cheaper machine-made fiberglass (or ABS plastic), so the paint bubbled and peeled after a few years; two-ring pistons are nice for getting minimum friction/maximum horsepower but they let the bike burn oil at a prodigious rate. I'd love to get something silly like a Royan Enfield for tooling around Boston. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO for the motorcycle geeks
Reminds me of a quote attributed to Mark Donohue when asked 'how much is enough power' He said when I can spin the rear wheels in top gear at the end of the straight. -Original Message- From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com Subject: Re: PESO for the motorcycle geeks On 08/09/2012 20:17, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Nice! Are those 6 piston? Seems like overkill? Until _all_ of the squealing is coming from the tyres, there is no such thing as brake overkill. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com Subject: PESO for the motorcycle geeks Every time a young punk totals his Kawasaki ZX-7 a Triumph Sprint owner gets to upgrade his brake calipers with parts from the salvage yard :-) http://www.robertstech.com/temp/brakes.jpg -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Mark Roberts wrote: I'd love to get something silly like a Royan Enfield for tooling around Boston. That should, of course, be *Royal* Enfield. But the curious thing is that my spell checker didn't catch it. I must have the Dave Brooks edition installed... -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Who knew brakes could be sexy? ;-) Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com Sent: September 8, 2012 9/8/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO for the motorcycle geeks Every time a young punk totals his Kawasaki ZX-7 a Triumph Sprint owner gets to upgrade his brake calipers with parts from the salvage yard :-) http://www.robertstech.com/temp/brakes.jpg -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
