Re: PESOs: a view from the top
Luka, pleasure to meet you. If you don't know, I am originally from Moscow, having moved to Israel 16 years ago. I should admit that these shots really reminded me of some of the 'hoods we had back in the capital of USSR. Boris Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote: Well, i took this shot a month ago, and i wasn't planning to. I was with a friend, helping her with a project for her studies (she was suposed to shoot a film comparing the basements of two tall adjacent buildings - one commercial and one residential) when we were lurred to the last floor of this 30story building (one of the highest in Belgrade) and then incidentally invited, by a resident who spotted us, to his apartment (he saw we admired the view through the dirty round windows in the hallway and said he might offer us a better one), to look through the huge windows (and take photos - he spotted the MX on my shoulder :)). so, here are a few: the dirty window: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6940541 Pentax MX, M50 1.7, Ilford pan 50 (apperture unknown) the view down: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6921112 Pentax MX, M50 1.7, Ilford pan 50 (apperture unknown) the view towards belgrade's residential industrial semisuburbia: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7074179 Pentax MX, M50 1.7, Ilford pan 50 (apperture unknown) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs: a view from the top
pleasure to meet you too, boris yeah, basically it's the same thing, but i must admit i was a ted more intimidated by the moscowian counterparts :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hear you ;-). Moscow is not necessarily a pleasant city, I can easily agree to that... Boris Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote: pleasure to meet you too, boris yeah, basically it's the same thing, but i must admit i was a ted more intimidated by the moscowian counterparts :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I like the first and last shots, mostly the first. Love that round frame. Dave On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Luka Knezevic-Strika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, i took this shot a month ago, and i wasn't planning to. I was with a friend, helping her with a project for her studies (she was suposed to shoot a film comparing the basements of two tall adjacent buildings - one commercial and one residential) when we were lurred to the last floor of this 30story building (one of the highest in Belgrade) and then incidentally invited, by a resident who spotted us, to his apartment (he saw we admired the view through the dirty round windows in the hallway and said he might offer us a better one), to look through the huge windows (and take photos - he spotted the MX on my shoulder :)). so, here are a few: the dirty window: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6940541 Pentax MX, M50 1.7, Ilford pan 50 (apperture unknown) the view down: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6921112 Pentax MX, M50 1.7, Ilford pan 50 (apperture unknown) the view towards belgrade's residential industrial semisuburbia: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7074179 Pentax MX, M50 1.7, Ilford pan 50 (apperture unknown) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs: a view from the top
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/03/19 Wed PM 10:00:35 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESOs: a view from the top On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting shot. I've seen stuff like that in Romania, Moscow and, believe it or not, Zanzibar. It's very weird to see them in a tropical paradise, but they were a fraternal gesture of Socialist friendship from the people of East Germany; the Zanzibaris were so overcome with gratitude they stuffed all their people into them. Horrible places. The area I used to live in here in Toronto is called St. Jamestown, and it's reputed to be the most densely populated neighbourhood in the country, with some 20,000 people on about 100 acres: http://pricetags.files.wordpress.com/2006/07/st-james-town.jpg I suspect no one really knows how many people are here, as there are many illegal immigrants; I've also heard a real population of about 24,000. About the only difference between this neighbourhood and the Stalinist masterpieces we've been talking about is the difference in architecture of these early-sixties monstrosities, and the fact that they're privately owned. At least they ~were~ privately owned - most are now owned by the city as public housing. I lived in one of the last three or four buildings that were still privately owned, and they weren't bad, but the publicly-owned ones were real slums. They sometimes went days or even weeks without hot water (or any water at all), and the elevators (all of them!) often broke down for days at a time - not a good thing when you live atop a 25 storie high-rise! The hallways featured bare lightbulbs (most of them out), filthy carpets and walls and there was a distinct odor of stale urine and faeces in the air. Pretty icky places... I think that says more about the people living in them than the buildings. All of the Stalinist nightmares that I've been invited into were clean, warm, well-looked-after homes. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:55 AM, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that says more about the people living in them than the buildings. All of the Stalinist nightmares that I've been invited into were clean, warm, well-looked-after homes. I'm sure you're right on both counts. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs: a view from the top
Luka Knezevic-Strika escribió: so, here are a few: the dirty window: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6940541 Pentax MX, M50 1.7, Ilford pan 50 (apperture unknown) the view down: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6921112 Pentax MX, M50 1.7, Ilford pan 50 (apperture unknown) the view towards belgrade's residential industrial semisuburbia: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7074179 Pentax MX, M50 1.7, Ilford pan 50 (apperture unknown) I like a lot the first and third photographs, Luka. They are very good documentary-style photos. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Luka Knezevic-Strika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, i took this shot a month ago, and i wasn't planning to.snip the view towards belgrade's residential industrial semisuburbia: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7074179 Pentax MX, M50 1.7, Ilford pan 50 (apperture unknown) I really like this one! So bleak and uninviting. Those apartments are the stereotypical Stalinist nightmare! (at least that's what we were led to believe - and it seems from this photo, with good reason) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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i hate this part of town, so, i'll agree. but, if you seek, you'll find some charm in the stalinist nightmare (like people inviting you to there apartment out of the blue, to show you the view ;) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESOs: a view from the top
Well, i took this shot a month ago, and i wasn't planning to.snip the view towards belgrade's residential industrial semisuburbia: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7074179 Pentax MX, M50 1.7, Ilford pan 50 (apperture unknown) I really like this one! So bleak and uninviting. Those apartments are the stereotypical Stalinist nightmare! (at least that's what we were led to believe - and it seems from this photo, with good reason) Interesting shot. I've seen stuff like that in Romania, Moscow and, believe it or not, Zanzibar. It's very weird to see them in a tropical paradise, but they were a fraternal gesture of Socialist friendship from the people of East Germany; the Zanzibaris were so overcome with gratitude they stuffed all their people into them. Horrible places. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting shot. I've seen stuff like that in Romania, Moscow and, believe it or not, Zanzibar. It's very weird to see them in a tropical paradise, but they were a fraternal gesture of Socialist friendship from the people of East Germany; the Zanzibaris were so overcome with gratitude they stuffed all their people into them. Horrible places. The area I used to live in here in Toronto is called St. Jamestown, and it's reputed to be the most densely populated neighbourhood in the country, with some 20,000 people on about 100 acres: http://pricetags.files.wordpress.com/2006/07/st-james-town.jpg I suspect no one really knows how many people are here, as there are many illegal immigrants; I've also heard a real population of about 24,000. About the only difference between this neighbourhood and the Stalinist masterpieces we've been talking about is the difference in architecture of these early-sixties monstrosities, and the fact that they're privately owned. At least they ~were~ privately owned - most are now owned by the city as public housing. I lived in one of the last three or four buildings that were still privately owned, and they weren't bad, but the publicly-owned ones were real slums. They sometimes went days or even weeks without hot water (or any water at all), and the elevators (all of them!) often broke down for days at a time - not a good thing when you live atop a 25 storie high-rise! The hallways featured bare lightbulbs (most of them out), filthy carpets and walls and there was a distinct odor of stale urine and faeces in the air. Pretty icky places... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Luka: These are really interesting. I like the 1st 3rd the best, probably the 3rd one best out of the two. Interesting work here. Cheers, Christine -Original Message- From: Luka Knezevic-Strika [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mar 19, 2008 11:05 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESOs: a view from the top Well, i took this shot a month ago, and i wasn't planning to. I was with a friend, helping her with a project for her studies (she was suposed to shoot a film comparing the basements of two tall adjacent buildings - one commercial and one residential) when we were lurred to the last floor of this 30story building (one of the highest in Belgrade) and then incidentally invited, by a resident who spotted us, to his apartment (he saw we admired the view through the dirty round windows in the hallway and said he might offer us a better one), to look through the huge windows (and take photos - he spotted the MX on my shoulder :)). so, here are a few: the dirty window: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6940541 Pentax MX, M50 1.7, Ilford pan 50 (apperture unknown) the view down: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6921112 Pentax MX, M50 1.7, Ilford pan 50 (apperture unknown) the view towards belgrade's residential industrial semisuburbia: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7074179 Pentax MX, M50 1.7, Ilford pan 50 (apperture unknown) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
