Re: Peso Looking up-looking down

2013-07-30 Thread P.J. Alling
Well, convenient as articulating screens are, they just add another 
point of failure to an already complex device.  I can understand why a 
manufacturer would forgo making models with this feature.


On 7/30/2013 12:19 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

THIS is the reason for articulating LCD screens. I think that if
camera companies are going to make duplicate models except for the
anti-alias filter then they could also make duplicate models
with/without an articulating LCD screen.

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:16 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17480450

The photographer is lying on the ground looking up i assume to try and
get all of the CN Tower in the back ground.

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Re: Peso Looking up-looking down

2013-07-30 Thread Darren Addy
THIS is the reason for articulating LCD screens. I think that if
camera companies are going to make duplicate models except for the
anti-alias filter then they could also make duplicate models
with/without an articulating LCD screen.

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:16 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17480450

 The photographer is lying on the ground looking up i assume to try and
 get all of the CN Tower in the back ground.

 Dave

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Re: Peso Looking up-looking down

2013-07-30 Thread Darren Addy
Another point of failure? Sure, sort of like electric windows, air
conditioning and other options on cars. On balance, it should be up to
the consumer whether he wishes to have them or not. Sales figures
would determine whether it was worthwhile for a company to offer the
option or now.  It would certainly be one way of separating your
flagship product from the more basic lines (something that Pentax
seems to have a problem with, ATTM. The K-500 is hardly different from
the K-50, for instance).

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:23 AM, P.J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well, convenient as articulating screens are, they just add another point of
 failure to an already complex device.  I can understand why a manufacturer
 would forgo making models with this feature.


 On 7/30/2013 12:19 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

 THIS is the reason for articulating LCD screens. I think that if
 camera companies are going to make duplicate models except for the
 anti-alias filter then they could also make duplicate models
 with/without an articulating LCD screen.

 On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:16 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17480450

 The photographer is lying on the ground looking up i assume to try and
 get all of the CN Tower in the back ground.

 Dave

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Re: Peso Looking up-looking down

2013-07-30 Thread Darren Addy
EDIT: or now should be or not.

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Another point of failure? Sure, sort of like electric windows, air
 conditioning and other options on cars. On balance, it should be up to
 the consumer whether he wishes to have them or not. Sales figures
 would determine whether it was worthwhile for a company to offer the
 option or now.  It would certainly be one way of separating your
 flagship product from the more basic lines (something that Pentax
 seems to have a problem with, ATTM. The K-500 is hardly different from
 the K-50, for instance).

 On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:23 AM, P.J. Alling
 webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well, convenient as articulating screens are, they just add another point of
 failure to an already complex device.  I can understand why a manufacturer
 would forgo making models with this feature.


 On 7/30/2013 12:19 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

 THIS is the reason for articulating LCD screens. I think that if
 camera companies are going to make duplicate models except for the
 anti-alias filter then they could also make duplicate models
 with/without an articulating LCD screen.

 On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:16 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17480450

 The photographer is lying on the ground looking up i assume to try and
 get all of the CN Tower in the back ground.

 Dave

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Re: Peso Looking up-looking down

2013-07-30 Thread P.J. Alling
It is, you can always get a Nikon D5100.  Pentax chooses not to have 
that point of failure.


Just yesterday I was walking out of a local dry goods emporium when I 
was almost bowled over by an unhappy customer Kuerig coffee maker 
clutched to their breast, with murder in their eye, on the way to the 
complaint department.  Pentax probably want's to avoid such scenarios as 
much as possible.


The K500 is a bargain among entry level cameras, you get the full 
capabilities of the mid level camera for a price closer to that of the 
most basic Canon Rebel.  All you seem to lose is weather sealing.  That 
seems like a good deal, not something to upbraid the company about.




On 7/30/2013 12:40 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Another point of failure? Sure, sort of like electric windows, air
conditioning and other options on cars. On balance, it should be up to
the consumer whether he wishes to have them or not. Sales figures
would determine whether it was worthwhile for a company to offer the
option or now.  It would certainly be one way of separating your
flagship product from the more basic lines (something that Pentax
seems to have a problem with, ATTM. The K-500 is hardly different from
the K-50, for instance).

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:23 AM, P.J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

Well, convenient as articulating screens are, they just add another point of
failure to an already complex device.  I can understand why a manufacturer
would forgo making models with this feature.


On 7/30/2013 12:19 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

THIS is the reason for articulating LCD screens. I think that if
camera companies are going to make duplicate models except for the
anti-alias filter then they could also make duplicate models
with/without an articulating LCD screen.

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:16 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17480450

The photographer is lying on the ground looking up i assume to try and
get all of the CN Tower in the back ground.

Dave

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Re: Peso Looking up-looking down

2013-07-30 Thread Ann Sanfedele

hehe - hope she can get up!

ann

On 7/30/2013 11:16, David J Brooks wrote:

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The photographer is lying on the ground looking up i assume to try and
get all of the CN Tower in the back ground.

Dave



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Re: Peso Looking up-looking down

2013-07-30 Thread Bill

On 30/07/2013 10:40 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

Another point of failure? Sure, sort of like electric windows, air
conditioning and other options on cars. On balance, it should be up to
the consumer whether he wishes to have them or not. Sales figures
would determine whether it was worthwhile for a company to offer the
option or now.  It would certainly be one way of separating your
flagship product from the more basic lines (something that Pentax
seems to have a problem with, ATTM. The K-500 is hardly different from
the K-50, for instance).


On a car, adding power windows, etc is putting options onto the vehicle 
with no major redesigns. Putting an articulating screen onto a camera is 
a major redesign of the back of the camera, essentially the manufacturer 
would be making another camera model which would either pirate sales 
from the sister model or fall hard in the marketplace. Either way, it 
will cost the company ROI. Power windows as an option on a vehicle does 
not have the same effect.


bill

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Re: Peso Looking up-looking down

2013-07-30 Thread kwaller
With the planned obsolence and high cost of repair so prevelant in many of 
todays products, cameras included, it seems like functional product 
longevity is not as big a factor as it once was.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

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From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: Peso Looking up-looking down



Another point of failure? Sure, sort of like electric windows, air
conditioning and other options on cars. On balance, it should be up to
the consumer whether he wishes to have them or not. Sales figures
would determine whether it was worthwhile for a company to offer the
option or now.  It would certainly be one way of separating your
flagship product from the more basic lines (something that Pentax
seems to have a problem with, ATTM. The K-500 is hardly different from
the K-50, for instance).

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:23 AM, P.J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, convenient as articulating screens are, they just add another point 
of
failure to an already complex device.  I can understand why a 
manufacturer

would forgo making models with this feature.


On 7/30/2013 12:19 PM, Darren Addy wrote:


THIS is the reason for articulating LCD screens. I think that if
camera companies are going to make duplicate models except for the
anti-alias filter then they could also make duplicate models
with/without an articulating LCD screen.

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:16 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
wrote:


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17480450

The photographer is lying on the ground looking up i assume to try and
get all of the CN Tower in the back ground.

Dave

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