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Hi, It is truth that old K, M lenses are built very well. My SMC K 135/2.5 is built like a tank and other my K i M lenses are very good in this respect. Alek Uytkownik Pl Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisa: Alek wrote: Thank you! so for the price K35/3.5 is great and if one can afford to buy FA version it pays. I shall try to find old for beginning. The problem with AF lenses (most of them anyway) is that they are AF lenses; loose, rattly, and focuses past infinity. Unfortunately, I've discovered that initially tight AF lenses develop looseness over time. It may well be that some newer AF designs are potentially beter optically, but getting the best out of them is more of a hassle. Older, MF lenses are built to last forever and my experience is that they do and never ever get out of alignment or develop rattles. Pl --r-e-k-l-a-m-a- Masz do pacenia prowizji bankowi ? mBank - za konto http://epieniadze.onet.pl/mbank
Re: Re: Who has switched to Pentax and why?
Alek wrote: Thank you! so for the price K35/3.5 is great and if one can afford to buy FA version it pays. I shall try to find old for beginning. The problem with AF lenses (most of them anyway) is that they are AF lenses; loose, rattly, and focuses past infinity. Unfortunately, I've discovered that initially tight AF lenses develop looseness over time. It may well be that some newer AF designs are potentially beter optically, but getting the best out of them is more of a hassle. Older, MF lenses are built to last forever and my experience is that they do and never ever get out of alignment or develop rattles. Pål
Re: Re: Who has switched to Pentax and why?
The problem with AF lenses (most of them anyway) is that they are AF lenses; loose, rattly, and focuses past infinity. Unfortunately, I've discovered that initially tight AF lenses develop looseness over time. It may well be that some newer AF designs are potentially beter optically, but getting the best out of them is more of a hassle. I have noticed this too but I do not think that the degree of looseness is a measure for the degree of durability. I think they are designed to become looser with use (to keep friction as low a possible). Once they have become loose it stays like this. However,there is a big difference between built quality among the various AF lenses. You have to pay much for built quality (I estimate that today a lens with a built quality comparable to that of the K-lenses is at least 4-5x more expensive than it was in the eighteens). Older, MF lenses are built to last forever and my experience is that they do and never ever get out of alignment or develop rattles. I aggree. But in those days, lenses were not categorized into consumer and pro lenses. Those who could afford the fast version bought a slower version of a lens. Both were made according to the same (high) standard. Today, the consumer is feeded with junk lenses while the right stuff has become excessively expensive considering the prices from the eighteens. Alexander Pål __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
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Is FA 35/2.0 better than highly recommended K35/2.0 and K35/3.5 lenses?Which is the best? Alek Uytkownik Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisa: On Friday, December 6, 2002, at 08:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FA35/2.0 which is probably very good. Alek No _probably_ about it Alek. Just, FA35/2.o which is very good. vbg Dan Scott --r-e-k-l-a-m-a- Masz do pacenia prowizji bankowi ? mBank - za konto http://epieniadze.onet.pl/mbank
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Only if you need auto focus. The 35 f3.5 is in a league of its own - try and buy one in the K mount! Bob Rapp - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 9:49 PM Subject: Re: Re: Who has switched to Pentax and why? Is FA 35/2.0 better than highly recommended K35/2.0 and K35/3.5 lenses?Which is the best? Alek Uytkownik Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisa: On Friday, December 6, 2002, at 08:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FA35/2.0 which is probably very good. Alek No _probably_ about it Alek. Just, FA35/2.o which is very good. vbg Dan Scott --r-e-k-l-a-m-a- Masz do pacenia prowizji bankowi ? mBank - za konto http://epieniadze.onet.pl/mbank
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I do not need AF! I just want to have great 35mm lens. I own M35/2.8 and probably K 35mm are better... Any opinion? Alek Uytkownik Bob Rapp [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisa: Only if you need auto focus. The 35 f3.5 is in a league of its own - try and buy one in the K mount! Bob Rapp - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 9:49 PM Subject: Re: Re: Who has switched to Pentax and why? Is FA 35/2.0 better than highly recommended K35/2.0 and K35/3.5 lenses?Which is the best? Alek Uytkownik Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisa: On Friday, December 6, 2002, at 08:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FA35/2.0 which is probably very good. Alek No _probably_ about it Alek. Just, FA35/2.o which is very good. vbg Dan Scott --r-e-k-l-a-m-a- Masz do pacenia prowizji bankowi ? mBank - za konto http://epieniadze.onet.pl/mbank ***r-e-k-l-a-m-a** Masz do pacenia prowizji bankowi ? mBank - za konto http://epieniadze.onet.pl/mbank
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I have a friend with the M35/2.8 and I have the Super Takumar 35/3.5 which is supposed to be the same optically as the K35/3.5 (except no SMC) and the Super Tak is definitely a better lens, though the M35 is not bad. If you can find the K35 at a good price, I would pick it up. I'm still looking for one myself, I got the Super Tak because the K is so scarce, and I haven't regretted it at all. William in Utah. 12/10/2002 4:06:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not need AF! I just want to have great 35mm lens. I own M35/2.8 and probably K 35mm are better... Any opinion? Alek Uytkownik Bob Rapp [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisa: Only if you need auto focus. The 35 f3.5 is in a league of its own - try and buy one in the K mount! Bob Rapp - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 9:49 PM Subject: Re: Re: Who has switched to Pentax and why? Is FA 35/2.0 better than highly recommended K35/2.0 and K35/3.5 lenses?Which is the best? Alek Uytkownik Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisa: On Friday, December 6, 2002, at 08:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FA35/2.0 which is probably very good. Alek No _probably_ about it Alek. Just, FA35/2.o which is very good. vbg Dan Scott --r-e-k-l-a-m-a- Masz do pacenia prowizji bankowi ? mBank - za konto http://epieniadze.onet.pl/mbank ***r-e-k-l-a-m-a** Masz do pacenia prowizji bankowi ? mBank - za konto http://epieniadze.onet.pl/mbank
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It was K35/3.5 I think. I see what you mean it is difficult to say it is the best lens etc. But taking into consideration only sharpness, resolution and color rendition one can show which is better. I know the price of FA 35/2.0 ( do not know average price of K35/2.0) but I just wanted to know which you recommend. Of course if old K35/3.5 will turn out just a little bit worse than new FA 35/2.0 I would buy old one. I usually use this focal length for landcapes and speed is not so important for me. Alek com napisa: As Bob Rapp said, a Pentax-M 35mm f/3.5 is a superior lens, and better than most other 35 mm lenses from anyone. That is HIS opinion. It is also my opinion. How much superior is totally dependend on what the user does with it. There are several features or qualities about lenses and how they perform. What is important to YOU is only known by you. If you want mid-range sharpness, that lens has few equals. If you want good bokeh, you'll have to listen to those who know ~ I don't pretend to be a lens expert NOR a bokeh expert. Do try to understand one thing, and this does not only apply to lenses: there is no such thing as best over all others. There is only better than something else. What might turn out to actually BE best for YOU, may not be agreed upon by somebody else. They may have reasons to say it is NOT best, for them. It's that reason that no-one can absolutely say This [whatever] is the very best. It cannot be true for everyone, for all circumstances. So, having said that, I'd try to stay with the question Which lens is better for me, than any others I know about? Also, don't forget, price enters into it as well. There are probably special lenses that have incorporated certain design features in them, that are quite superior to most if not all other lenses of it's type. But the cost is very very high. For instance, if you only get more sharpness from that extra money, may not be worth the high price. No-ne can answer that question for you. Take all you learn and think on it. Only you can decide. Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not need AF! I just want to have great 35mm lens. I own M35/2.8 and probably K 35mm are better... Any opinion? Alek Uytkownik Bob Rapp [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisa3: Only if you need auto focus. The 35 f3.5 is in a league of its own - try and buy one in the K mount! Bob Rapp - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 9:49 PM Subject: Re: Re: Who has switched to Pentax and why? Is FA 35/2.0 better than highly recommended K35/2.0 and K35/3.5 lenses?Which is the best? Alek Uytkownik Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisa3: On Friday, December 6, 2002, at 08:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FA35/2.0 which is probably very good. Alek No _probably_ about it Alek. Just, FA35/2.o which is very good. vbg Dan Scott --r-e-k-l-a-m-a- Masz do pacenia prowizji bankowi ? mBank - za konto http://epieniadze.onet.pl/mbank
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So good luck in looking for K35/3.5 lens. I also plan to replace my M35/2.8 with any K 35mm or even FA35/2.0 in future. Alek Uytkownik William Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisa: I have a friend with the M35/2.8 and I have the Super Takumar 35/3.5 which is supposed to be the same optically as the K35/3.5 (except no SMC) and the Super Tak is definitely a better lens, though the M35 is not bad. If you can find the K35 at a good price, I would pick it up. I'm still looking for one myself, I got the Super Tak because the K is so scarce, and I haven't regretted it at all. William in Utah. 12/10/2002 4:06:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not need AF! I just want to have great 35mm lens. I own M35/2.8 and probably K 35mm are better... Any opinion? Alek Uytkownik Bob Rapp [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisa: Only if you need auto focus. The 35 f3.5 is in a league of its own - try and buy one in the K mount! Bob Rapp - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 9:49 PM Subject: Re: Re: Who has switched to Pentax and why? Is FA 35/2.0 better than highly recommended K35/2.0 and K35/3.5 lenses?Which is the best? Alek Uytkownik Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisa: On Friday, December 6, 2002, at 08:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FA35/2.0 which is probably very good. Alek No _probably_ about it Alek. Just, FA35/2.o which is very good. vbg Dan Scott --r-e-k-l-a-m-a- Masz do pacenia prowizji bankowi ? mBank - za konto http://epieniadze.onet.pl/mbank ***r-e-k-l-a-m-a** Masz do pacenia prowizji bankowi ? mBank - za konto http://epieniadze.onet.pl/mbank --r-e-k-l-a-m-a- Masz do pacenia prowizji bankowi ? mBank - za konto http://epieniadze.onet.pl/mbank
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Keep looking. They are available. I have been watching ebay for a couple of years for a K3.5/35. I found one a month ago on ebay for $30 in mint condition. Only the plastic cap had a little silver lettering rubbed off on it. On Tuesday 10 December 2002 01:04 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So good luck in looking for K35/3.5 lens. I also plan to replace my M35/2.8 with any K 35mm or even FA35/2.0 in future. Alek -- Ken Archer Canine Photography San Antonio, Texas Business Is Going To The Dogs
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Hi! Well, I wanted a SLR, but hadn't the money to buy a new one. My father had 2 old lenses (Pentax 135mm and 50mm) which he gave to me, and so I ended up buying a used ME body... that's it... but I'm very happy how it turned out ^_^ bye Katrin On Thursday, December 05, 2002 9:59 AM, Lon Williamson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: For me, Pentax was a no-brainer. My wife shot a K-1000 as a reporter for half a decade, so when I got the bug, I studied a little bit, and the PDML more than anything put me in K-mount. My first camera was a KM, and I was hooked. Those of you who have dabbled in the NCMO world, why are you here now? Hi, my name is Farmina Manahesh Robertson, and I shoot Pentax because __ -Lon
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Hi, What was the price of A50/1.4? Alek Uytkownik Arnold Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisa: Hi, my name is Arnold Stark, and I shoot Pentax because Pentax gives me excellent, beautiful lenses and good, small bodies at prices that I can afford. My first SLR was a Ricoh KR10-X with a Tokina zoom in 1988, but within 7 months I had picked up a Pentax-A 1:1.4 50mm, a Pentax-A 1:2.8 28mm, and a Super A. Arnold --r-e-k-l-a-m-a- Masz do pacenia prowizji bankowi ? mBank - za konto http://epieniadze.onet.pl/mbank
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And Pentax gear is better than Minolta's? Some people believe that MZS is worse than Dynax/Maxxum 7, not mentioning 9 Alek What about lenses?Minolta has now some great lenses Alek Uytkownik Bruce Rubenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisa: Sorry Wendy, I was thinking of serious camera brands, like EDIXA. BR From: wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Me, I did. I switched from Minolta AF when the MZ-S came out. I have since sold my Minolta 600si and lenses and bought another MZ-S body (thanks, Andre!) --r-e-k-l-a-m-a- Masz do pacenia prowizji bankowi ? mBank - za konto http://epieniadze.onet.pl/mbank
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Hi, I see. Thank you! Alek PS Which Limited lenses do you have? Is 43/1.9 much better than A/FA 50/1.4 or 1.7? Uytkownik Arnold Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisa: In 1988 the A50/f1.4 cost me 330 DM new. Arnold Hi, What was the price of A50/1.4? Alek --r-e-k-l-a-m-a- Masz do pacenia prowizji bankowi ? mBank - za konto http://epieniadze.onet.pl/mbank
