Re: Stop buying K-5s...new lens(es) !!
I know about Contax, I've even tested it years ago. AX autofocus wasn't simply slow, it was a disaster. Still it doesn't mean that in-body AF couldn't be done better - especially if we consider that instead of film mechanism there's only a sensor to move. After all, weight comparison between lens (group) and sensor chip is the cornerstone of in-body SR. How many people said it can not be done before Pentax engineers just came and did it? BR, Margus On 11/11/2010 11:58 PM, Adam Maas wrote: 2010/11/11 Margus Männikmar...@eol.ee: Want some crazy suggestion? ;) Future Pentax bodies will have in-body autofocus. It's much faster to move a light sensor than tons of glass. And you'll have AF with any K-mount lens (and others that you can mount via adapters) ever produced. Great, isn't it? Why it still has a focus-ring... hmm, well, it's for a backward compatibility and manual focus, of course. BR, Margus In body AF has been done (Contax AX), it's MUCH faster to move the glass and far less trouble to keep aligned. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Margus, Given the amount of travel in some of my lenses, I think the idea is a non-starter. Digital cameras are too thick now. This would only make it worse. Regards, Bob S. 2010/11/12 Margus Männik mar...@eol.ee: I know about Contax, I've even tested it years ago. AX autofocus wasn't simply slow, it was a disaster. Still it doesn't mean that in-body AF couldn't be done better - especially if we consider that instead of film mechanism there's only a sensor to move. After all, weight comparison between lens (group) and sensor chip is the cornerstone of in-body SR. How many people said it can not be done before Pentax engineers just came and did it? BR, Margus On 11/11/2010 11:58 PM, Adam Maas wrote: 2010/11/11 Margus Männikmar...@eol.ee: Want some crazy suggestion? ;) Future Pentax bodies will have in-body autofocus. It's much faster to move a light sensor than tons of glass. And you'll have AF with any K-mount lens (and others that you can mount via adapters) ever produced. Great, isn't it? Why it still has a focus-ring... hmm, well, it's for a backward compatibility and manual focus, of course. BR, Margus In body AF has been done (Contax AX), it's MUCH faster to move the glass and far less trouble to keep aligned. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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How much throw of the sensor would you need to focus? a few cm? I wonder if you could actually sell fixed focus lenses (hyper-focal point, infinity, etc.) and let the sensor. If you could move the sensor fast enough, would there be any lens advantage? A fixed focus prime could be sealed pretty tightly. 2010/11/12 Margus Männik mar...@eol.ee: I know about Contax, I've even tested it years ago. AX autofocus wasn't simply slow, it was a disaster. Still it doesn't mean that in-body AF couldn't be done better - especially if we consider that instead of film mechanism there's only a sensor to move. After all, weight comparison between lens (group) and sensor chip is the cornerstone of in-body SR. How many people said it can not be done before Pentax engineers just came and did it? BR, Margus On 11/11/2010 11:58 PM, Adam Maas wrote: 2010/11/11 Margus Männikmar...@eol.ee: Want some crazy suggestion? ;) Future Pentax bodies will have in-body autofocus. It's much faster to move a light sensor than tons of glass. And you'll have AF with any K-mount lens (and others that you can mount via adapters) ever produced. Great, isn't it? Why it still has a focus-ring... hmm, well, it's for a backward compatibility and manual focus, of course. BR, Margus In body AF has been done (Contax AX), it's MUCH faster to move the glass and far less trouble to keep aligned. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: How much throw of the sensor would you need to focus? a few cm? It's the same as adding extension tubes; the answer depends on the focal length of the lens, and how close you want to focus. If you want to achieve 1:1 macro capability, you need extension equal to the focal length (e.g. 9 cm for a 90mm 1:1 macro). If you're thinking about something like a street photography camera, with wide-to-normal lenses and no macro applications, it might be doable. As a general SLR replacement, probably not. You can use this calculator to get maximum magnification and close focus distance for any focal length and extension: http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/macro-extension-tubes-closeup.htm Just set the native magnification to 0 X and specify the amount of extension and focal length. If you could move the sensor fast enough, would there be any lens advantage? You couldn't do floating-element correction for close focus, so that would be a downside. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The issue becomes the fact that film is FAR more forgiving of alignment errors than digital. Not to mention the fact that the AF sensor Refle mirror needs to move with the imaging sensor and that essentially dictates the shutter has to move too. Add the fact that wider lenses require far smaller and more accurate movements of the sensor so it needs to be very precise. And it's a lot easier to toss around a lens in a helical than a mirror box, especially when the lens group's AF gearing is design specific. The AX was just about a best-case implementation of body-based AF. The biggest issues with the concept were inherent, not implementation. -Adam 2010/11/12 Margus Männik mar...@eol.ee: I know about Contax, I've even tested it years ago. AX autofocus wasn't simply slow, it was a disaster. Still it doesn't mean that in-body AF couldn't be done better - especially if we consider that instead of film mechanism there's only a sensor to move. After all, weight comparison between lens (group) and sensor chip is the cornerstone of in-body SR. How many people said it can not be done before Pentax engineers just came and did it? BR, Margus On 11/11/2010 11:58 PM, Adam Maas wrote: 2010/11/11 Margus Männikmar...@eol.ee: Want some crazy suggestion? ;) Future Pentax bodies will have in-body autofocus. It's much faster to move a light sensor than tons of glass. And you'll have AF with any K-mount lens (and others that you can mount via adapters) ever produced. Great, isn't it? Why it still has a focus-ring... hmm, well, it's for a backward compatibility and manual focus, of course. BR, Margus In body AF has been done (Contax AX), it's MUCH faster to move the glass and far less trouble to keep aligned. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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A japanese member of pentaxforums said thr 135-1.8 looked much like the special versions made for japanese army (50/1.2 at least were made such according to him). 2010/11/10, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it: Jaume Lahuerta wrote: Please, tell me if I am too tedious with this: http://k-rumors.com/pentax-lens-group-foto-unveils-new-lenses/ Not tedious at all. Please keep this stuff coming! That's a nice intriguing mix of old new stuff! I believe that 135 to be an old prototype lens, unsure if earlier or later than the standard 135mm f/1.8 * we know. My wild guess would be a later variation, never put into production. The Spotmatic and the Takumar 18mm f/11 are much older than the rest. That silver thing behind the 135mm is a 40mm Limited with a new old-style front cap (AOCo logo) made on occasion of the new AP celebration DSLR (a disguised K10D). Those two unnamed lenses behind the 35mm macro look like other lenses with similar concept. One of them could be a 50mm macro, while I won't venture into guessing on the other one. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stop buying K-5s...new lens(es) !!
Want some crazy suggestion? ;) Future Pentax bodies will have in-body autofocus. It's much faster to move a light sensor than tons of glass. And you'll have AF with any K-mount lens (and others that you can mount via adapters) ever produced. Great, isn't it? Why it still has a focus-ring... hmm, well, it's for a backward compatibility and manual focus, of course. BR, Margus On 11/10/2010 2:45 AM, paul stenquist wrote: Pretty damn close. I'd guess that the lens in the photo posted by Jaume is a PhotoShopped version of the old A* lens. Can't see why Pentax would bo back to an A* designation. It doesn't appear to be a contemporary lens in any way. Paul On Nov 9, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Phil Northeast wrote: On 10/11/10 10:53 AM, paul stenquist wrote: Hmmm. It's marked Pentax A*. Doesn't sound like a new lens. But I'd like a 135/1.8. Great lens for shooting performs in clubs. Paul Oh, and keep the rumors coming. They're not the least bit tedious. On Nov 9, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: Please, tell me if I am too tedious with this: http://k-rumors.com/pentax-lens-group-foto-unveils-new-lenses/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Here is details of an older version http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/lenses/primes/tele/A135f1.8.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2010/11/11 Margus Männik mar...@eol.ee: Want some crazy suggestion? ;) Future Pentax bodies will have in-body autofocus. It's much faster to move a light sensor than tons of glass. And you'll have AF with any K-mount lens (and others that you can mount via adapters) ever produced. Great, isn't it? Why it still has a focus-ring... hmm, well, it's for a backward compatibility and manual focus, of course. BR, Margus In body AF has been done (Contax AX), it's MUCH faster to move the glass and far less trouble to keep aligned. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I think Contax tried that. Pentax is here Contax is gone. Casualty isn't guaranteed but it's the way to bet. On 11/11/2010 4:28 PM, Margus Männik wrote: Want some crazy suggestion? ;) Future Pentax bodies will have in-body autofocus. It's much faster to move a light sensor than tons of glass. And you'll have AF with any K-mount lens (and others that you can mount via adapters) ever produced. Great, isn't it? Why it still has a focus-ring... hmm, well, it's for a backward compatibility and manual focus, of course. BR, Margus On 11/10/2010 2:45 AM, paul stenquist wrote: Pretty damn close. I'd guess that the lens in the photo posted by Jaume is a PhotoShopped version of the old A* lens. Can't see why Pentax would bo back to an A* designation. It doesn't appear to be a contemporary lens in any way. Paul On Nov 9, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Phil Northeast wrote: On 10/11/10 10:53 AM, paul stenquist wrote: Hmmm. It's marked Pentax A*. Doesn't sound like a new lens. But I'd like a 135/1.8. Great lens for shooting performs in clubs. Paul Oh, and keep the rumors coming. They're not the least bit tedious. On Nov 9, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: Please, tell me if I am too tedious with this: http://k-rumors.com/pentax-lens-group-foto-unveils-new-lenses/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Here is details of an older version http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/lenses/primes/tele/A135f1.8.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stop buying K-5s...new lens(es) !!
Jaume Lahuerta wrote: Please, tell me if I am too tedious with this: http://k-rumors.com/pentax-lens-group-foto-unveils-new-lenses/ Not tedious at all. Please keep this stuff coming! That's a nice intriguing mix of old new stuff! I believe that 135 to be an old prototype lens, unsure if earlier or later than the standard 135mm f/1.8 * we know. My wild guess would be a later variation, never put into production. The Spotmatic and the Takumar 18mm f/11 are much older than the rest. That silver thing behind the 135mm is a 40mm Limited with a new old-style front cap (AOCo logo) made on occasion of the new AP celebration DSLR (a disguised K10D). Those two unnamed lenses behind the 35mm macro look like other lenses with similar concept. One of them could be a 50mm macro, while I won't venture into guessing on the other one. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Steve Sharpe At 3:32 PM -0800 11/9/10, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: Please, tell me if I am too tedious with this: http://k-rumors.com/pentax-lens-group-foto-unveils-new-lenses/ Strange that it has an aperture ring. Looks a whole lot like the one on B Dimitrov's site to me. Only differences I see are cosmetic ... the gray color of the coating, that green ring and the grip surface on the focus ring. All of those could have been done to an existing lens. It would be nice, but I just don't see it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: John Celio What an amusingly strange collection of lenses! The 135 is certainly intriguing, since it looks pretty different from the original version. I wonder if it's some sort of special/limited release? Those two odd lenses behind the 35 macro must either be something new, in prototype form, or somehow related to the 35 macro. One appears to have a sticker on it with some Japanese characters. They look like they have the same front end except for the extra grip rings around the front, and the same bottom below the grip rings too. Intriguing! It's funny to see a Fish-Eye Takumar pancake lens on the far left. I had one for a while and finally sold it last year. Except for that one lens, I am jealous of this set. ;) I can't identify many of them, but the one immediately to the right of the 135f1.8 looks like a Pentax 67 lens, and I found a Pentax 67 100mmf4 Macro lens that it might be. That would be consistent with the 67 to K mount adapter on the table right in front of the 135f1.8 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 9:24 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: I can't identify many of them, but the one immediately to the right of the 135f1.8 looks like a Pentax 67 lens, and I found a Pentax 67 100mmf4 Macro lens that it might be. That would be consistent with the 67 to K mount adapter on the table right in front of the 135f1.8 It's definitely the Pentax-67 100/4 Macro. The mount is clearly a 67 mount (by diameter and the A/M switch). -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hmmm. It's marked Pentax A*. Doesn't sound like a new lens. But I'd like a 135/1.8. Great lens for shooting performs in clubs. Paul Oh, and keep the rumors coming. They're not the least bit tedious. On Nov 9, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: Please, tell me if I am too tedious with this: http://k-rumors.com/pentax-lens-group-foto-unveils-new-lenses/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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At 3:32 PM -0800 11/9/10, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: Please, tell me if I am too tedious with this: http://k-rumors.com/pentax-lens-group-foto-unveils-new-lenses/ Strange that it has an aperture ring. -- Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 10/11/10 10:53 AM, paul stenquist wrote: Hmmm. It's marked Pentax A*. Doesn't sound like a new lens. But I'd like a 135/1.8. Great lens for shooting performs in clubs. Paul Oh, and keep the rumors coming. They're not the least bit tedious. On Nov 9, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: Please, tell me if I am too tedious with this: http://k-rumors.com/pentax-lens-group-foto-unveils-new-lenses/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Here is details of an older version http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/lenses/primes/tele/A135f1.8.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Pretty damn close. I'd guess that the lens in the photo posted by Jaume is a PhotoShopped version of the old A* lens. Can't see why Pentax would bo back to an A* designation. It doesn't appear to be a contemporary lens in any way. Paul On Nov 9, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Phil Northeast wrote: On 10/11/10 10:53 AM, paul stenquist wrote: Hmmm. It's marked Pentax A*. Doesn't sound like a new lens. But I'd like a 135/1.8. Great lens for shooting performs in clubs. Paul Oh, and keep the rumors coming. They're not the least bit tedious. On Nov 9, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: Please, tell me if I am too tedious with this: http://k-rumors.com/pentax-lens-group-foto-unveils-new-lenses/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Here is details of an older version http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/lenses/primes/tele/A135f1.8.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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What an amusingly strange collection of lenses! The 135 is certainly intriguing, since it looks pretty different from the original version. I wonder if it's some sort of special/limited release? Those two odd lenses behind the 35 macro must either be something new, in prototype form, or somehow related to the 35 macro. One appears to have a sticker on it with some Japanese characters. They look like they have the same front end except for the extra grip rings around the front, and the same bottom below the grip rings too. Intriguing! It's funny to see a Fish-Eye Takumar pancake lens on the far left. I had one for a while and finally sold it last year. Except for that one lens, I am jealous of this set. ;) John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/jacelio Original Message Subject: Stop buying K-5s...new lens(es) !! From: Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, November 09, 2010 4:32 pm To: pdml@pdml.net Please, tell me if I am too tedious with this: http://k-rumors.com/pentax-lens-group-foto-unveils-new-lenses/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Even more likely is it's an old protorype of the A* 135 given that the finish resembles the old A* super-tele's. -Adam On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:45 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Pretty damn close. I'd guess that the lens in the photo posted by Jaume is a PhotoShopped version of the old A* lens. Can't see why Pentax would bo back to an A* designation. It doesn't appear to be a contemporary lens in any way. Paul On Nov 9, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Phil Northeast wrote: On 10/11/10 10:53 AM, paul stenquist wrote: Hmmm. It's marked Pentax A*. Doesn't sound like a new lens. But I'd like a 135/1.8. Great lens for shooting performs in clubs. Paul Oh, and keep the rumors coming. They're not the least bit tedious. On Nov 9, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: Please, tell me if I am too tedious with this: http://k-rumors.com/pentax-lens-group-foto-unveils-new-lenses/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Here is details of an older version http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/lenses/primes/tele/A135f1.8.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 11/10/2010 1:32 AM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: Please, tell me if I am too tedious with this: http://k-rumors.com/pentax-lens-group-foto-unveils-new-lenses/ I have enough lenses, thank you so much, sir. And then I have some more lenses... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
