Re: wHICH fLASH UNIT FOR K10D OR K20D
I know I should get a 645 but in Europe, used prices aren't as nice as in the US :( I'd really like to get hold of one however. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: wHICH fLASH UNIT FOR K10D OR K20D
On May 21, 2008, at 15:21, Lucas Rijnders wrote: I was actually doubting between the 12-24 and the 16-14. I really liked the ultra wide 18 to 24mm perspective on film. The 16-45 would give me the angle of view of a 24mm lens and a convenient range. The 12-24 would be wider, but more specialised. Choices choices... In an ideal world, I'd have both! But I finally opted for the 16-50 and it hasn't left the camera much since I got it. There is still time to get the 12-24... it could still happen. :-) -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: wHICH fLASH UNIT FOR K10D OR K20D
Op Thu, 22 May 2008 16:18:01 +0200 schreef Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On May 21, 2008, at 15:21, Lucas Rijnders wrote: I was actually doubting between the 12-24 and the 16-14. I really liked the ultra wide 18 to 24mm perspective on film. The 16-45 would give me the angle of view of a 24mm lens and a convenient range. The 12-24 would be wider, but more specialised. Choices choices... In an ideal world, I'd have both! But I finally opted for the 16-50 and it hasn't left the camera much since I got it. My agony is self induced; I'm just not willing to spend that much money on a hobby. There is still time to get the 12-24... it could still happen. :-) Sounds like you're halfway there ;-) -- Ciao, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: wHICH fLASH UNIT FOR K10D OR K20D
Op Thu, 22 May 2008 12:15:59 +0200 schreef Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I know I should get a 645 but in Europe, used prices aren't as nice as in the US :( I'd really like to get hold of one however. I bought mine (with 120 holder lens) in the US through ebay under €200,-. The 150/3,5 and 45/2,8 are affordable as well, even in Europe. -- Ciao, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: wHICH fLASH UNIT FOR K10D OR K20D
Aargh! Just what I did not need to know. I would love a good flash useable on a SuperA, 645 and K10... I would love a better wideangle than the FAJ 18-35 as well... Regards, Lucas Hehe :) I can testify it works nicely with my SuperA. I have no LX or 645 (yet?) unfortunately :( -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: wHICH fLASH UNIT FOR K10D OR K20D
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Op Tue, 20 May 2008 22:30:52 +0200 schreef Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There is no Auto flash on 330/500. Pity, I really like that flash. I'm back to a Metz 40MZ3, which isn;t bas at all, but somehow I preferred the 500. and btw 540/360 can work in analog TTL with SuperA, 645, LX :) :) Aargh! Just what I did not need to know. I would love a good flash useable on a SuperA, 645 and K10... I would love a better wideangle than the FAJ 18-35 as well... Regards, Lucas FA 20-35 covers the better wide-angle, IIRC Godfrey had a line on a few NOS examples for around $400USD. And both the FGZ flashes do TTL on all TTL-capable Pentax's. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: wHICH fLASH UNIT FOR K10D OR K20D
Op Wed, 21 May 2008 14:42:54 +0200 schreef Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Op Tue, 20 May 2008 22:30:52 +0200 schreef Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There is no Auto flash on 330/500. Pity, I really like that flash. I'm back to a Metz 40MZ3, which isn;t bas at all, but somehow I preferred the 500. and btw 540/360 can work in analog TTL with SuperA, 645, LX :) :) Aargh! Just what I did not need to know. I would love a good flash useable on a SuperA, 645 and K10... I would love a better wideangle than the FAJ 18-35 as well... FA 20-35 covers the better wide-angle, IIRC Godfrey had a line on a few NOS examples for around $400USD. And both the FGZ flashes do TTL on all TTL-capable Pentax's. I was actually doubting between the 12-24 and the 16-14. I really liked the ultra wide 18 to 24mm perspective on film. The 16-45 would give me the angle of view of a 24mm lens and a convenient range. The 12-24 would be wider, but more specialised. Choices choices... -- Ciao, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: wHICH fLASH UNIT FOR K10D OR K20D
Op Wed, 21 May 2008 11:38:02 +0200 schreef Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Aargh! Just what I did not need to know. I would love a good flash useable on a SuperA, 645 and K10... I would love a better wideangle than the FAJ 18-35 as well... Regards, Lucas Hehe :) I can testify it works nicely with my SuperA. I have no LX or 645 (yet?) unfortunately :( If it works on a SuperA it should work on a 645. Which is a camera you should try for the money, by the way... -- Ciao, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: wHICH fLASH UNIT FOR K10D OR K20D
I beleave the Metz can be upgraded, if needed in future. But that may take time, so I think you swayed me back again. I is hard to decide, since I know so little about flashes. MaritimTim 2008/5/20 Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The Metz can set aperture and ISO data automatically, the Pentax's can't. The Pentax is guaranteed to work on newer P-TTL bodies, the Metz isn't. -Adam On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I read Thibouille the Metz auto function is slightly more sophisticated. Is it something I overlook here? MaritimTim 2008/5/20 Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Note that both the Pentax AF540FGZ and AF360FGZ offer Auto flash as well as P-TTL, digital TTL and analog TTL support. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- MaritimTim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: wHICH fLASH UNIT FOR K10D OR K20D
Op Tue, 20 May 2008 02:50:58 +0200 schreef Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Note that both the Pentax AF540FGZ and AF360FGZ offer Auto flash as well as P-TTL, digital TTL and analog TTL support. Hey, that's 'new' on the AF-540 over the AF-500? Or did I miss the Auto-flash function on the AF-500? -- Regards, Lucas. On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds neat, very neat. Could sway me towards Metz. I'm very close to buying a flash, after I found an old Hama flash bracket at the bottom of a closset. I have found memories about that piece of equpment. It gave me much better light than on camera flash. And it made me look pro, as I recall :-) Now I've grown grey, and with it I will look just almost as cool as Greywolf with his Speedgraphic PJ setup :-) Speaking of brackets. It has a standard sync connection. What's my best options for triggering the flash if I want to have some kind autofunction? That leaves standard sync out, deosn't it? I'm not very fond of the wireless system, the flash tends to power down on me when I need it. So I beleave the Pentax sync is the only alternative left. Am I right about that? MaritimTim (flash novice) 2008/5/19 Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]: a little feature which *might* be usefull to some so I will write about it again: Metz offers (with 58AF1 only, the 48AF1 has no embedded sensor) auto flash. Metz auto flash works automaticaly which means it reads aperture/iso/focal etc settings from the camera. It means you can use auto flash as easily as PTTL but.. without PTTL. Usefull if you don't like PTTL or if you need to cure problems as: * reflections (mirrors etc with which PTTL sucks) * poeple closing their eyes due to the early metering flash from PTTL. This feature will of course work as well with older camera (Z/PZ, MZ, SF, *ist, DSLRs etc.) It also feature HSS, wireless etc... of crouse. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- MaritimTim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Ciao, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: wHICH fLASH UNIT FOR K10D OR K20D
There is no Auto flash on 330/500. and btw 540/360 can work in analog TTL with SuperA, 645, LX :) :) On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Op Tue, 20 May 2008 02:50:58 +0200 schreef Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Note that both the Pentax AF540FGZ and AF360FGZ offer Auto flash as well as P-TTL, digital TTL and analog TTL support. Hey, that's 'new' on the AF-540 over the AF-500? Or did I miss the Auto-flash function on the AF-500? -- Regards, Lucas. On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds neat, very neat. Could sway me towards Metz. I'm very close to buying a flash, after I found an old Hama flash bracket at the bottom of a closset. I have found memories about that piece of equpment. It gave me much better light than on camera flash. And it made me look pro, as I recall :-) Now I've grown grey, and with it I will look just almost as cool as Greywolf with his Speedgraphic PJ setup :-) Speaking of brackets. It has a standard sync connection. What's my best options for triggering the flash if I want to have some kind autofunction? That leaves standard sync out, deosn't it? I'm not very fond of the wireless system, the flash tends to power down on me when I need it. So I beleave the Pentax sync is the only alternative left. Am I right about that? MaritimTim (flash novice) 2008/5/19 Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]: a little feature which *might* be usefull to some so I will write about it again: Metz offers (with 58AF1 only, the 48AF1 has no embedded sensor) auto flash. Metz auto flash works automaticaly which means it reads aperture/iso/focal etc settings from the camera. It means you can use auto flash as easily as PTTL but.. without PTTL. Usefull if you don't like PTTL or if you need to cure problems as: * reflections (mirrors etc with which PTTL sucks) * poeple closing their eyes due to the early metering flash from PTTL. This feature will of course work as well with older camera (Z/PZ, MZ, SF, *ist, DSLRs etc.) It also feature HSS, wireless etc... of crouse. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- MaritimTim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Ciao, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: wHICH fLASH UNIT FOR K10D OR K20D
Op Tue, 20 May 2008 22:30:52 +0200 schreef Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There is no Auto flash on 330/500. Pity, I really like that flash. I'm back to a Metz 40MZ3, which isn;t bas at all, but somehow I preferred the 500. and btw 540/360 can work in analog TTL with SuperA, 645, LX :) :) Aargh! Just what I did not need to know. I would love a good flash useable on a SuperA, 645 and K10... I would love a better wideangle than the FAJ 18-35 as well... Regards, Lucas On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Op Tue, 20 May 2008 02:50:58 +0200 schreef Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Note that both the Pentax AF540FGZ and AF360FGZ offer Auto flash as well as P-TTL, digital TTL and analog TTL support. Hey, that's 'new' on the AF-540 over the AF-500? Or did I miss the Auto-flash function on the AF-500? -- Regards, Lucas. On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds neat, very neat. Could sway me towards Metz. I'm very close to buying a flash, after I found an old Hama flash bracket at the bottom of a closset. I have found memories about that piece of equpment. It gave me much better light than on camera flash. And it made me look pro, as I recall :-) Now I've grown grey, and with it I will look just almost as cool as Greywolf with his Speedgraphic PJ setup :-) Speaking of brackets. It has a standard sync connection. What's my best options for triggering the flash if I want to have some kind autofunction? That leaves standard sync out, deosn't it? I'm not very fond of the wireless system, the flash tends to power down on me when I need it. So I beleave the Pentax sync is the only alternative left. Am I right about that? MaritimTim (flash novice) 2008/5/19 Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]: a little feature which *might* be usefull to some so I will write about it again: Metz offers (with 58AF1 only, the 48AF1 has no embedded sensor) auto flash. Metz auto flash works automaticaly which means it reads aperture/iso/focal etc settings from the camera. It means you can use auto flash as easily as PTTL but.. without PTTL. Usefull if you don't like PTTL or if you need to cure problems as: * reflections (mirrors etc with which PTTL sucks) * poeple closing their eyes due to the early metering flash from PTTL. This feature will of course work as well with older camera (Z/PZ, MZ, SF, *ist, DSLRs etc.) It also feature HSS, wireless etc... of crouse. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- MaritimTim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Ciao, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Ciao, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: wHICH fLASH UNIT FOR K10D OR K20D
a little feature which *might* be usefull to some so I will write about it again: Metz offers (with 58AF1 only, the 48AF1 has no embedded sensor) auto flash. Metz auto flash works automaticaly which means it reads aperture/iso/focal etc settings from the camera. It means you can use auto flash as easily as PTTL but.. without PTTL. Usefull if you don't like PTTL or if you need to cure problems as: * reflections (mirrors etc with which PTTL sucks) * poeple closing their eyes due to the early metering flash from PTTL. This feature will of course work as well with older camera (Z/PZ, MZ, SF, *ist, DSLRs etc.) It also feature HSS, wireless etc... of crouse. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: wHICH fLASH UNIT FOR K10D OR K20D
Sounds neat, very neat. Could sway me towards Metz. I'm very close to buying a flash, after I found an old Hama flash bracket at the bottom of a closset. I have found memories about that piece of equpment. It gave me much better light than on camera flash. And it made me look pro, as I recall :-) Now I've grown grey, and with it I will look just almost as cool as Greywolf with his Speedgraphic PJ setup :-) Speaking of brackets. It has a standard sync connection. What's my best options for triggering the flash if I want to have some kind autofunction? That leaves standard sync out, deosn't it? I'm not very fond of the wireless system, the flash tends to power down on me when I need it. So I beleave the Pentax sync is the only alternative left. Am I right about that? MaritimTim (flash novice) 2008/5/19 Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]: a little feature which *might* be usefull to some so I will write about it again: Metz offers (with 58AF1 only, the 48AF1 has no embedded sensor) auto flash. Metz auto flash works automaticaly which means it reads aperture/iso/focal etc settings from the camera. It means you can use auto flash as easily as PTTL but.. without PTTL. Usefull if you don't like PTTL or if you need to cure problems as: * reflections (mirrors etc with which PTTL sucks) * poeple closing their eyes due to the early metering flash from PTTL. This feature will of course work as well with older camera (Z/PZ, MZ, SF, *ist, DSLRs etc.) It also feature HSS, wireless etc... of crouse. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- MaritimTim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: wHICH fLASH UNIT FOR K10D OR K20D
Note that both the Pentax AF540FGZ and AF360FGZ offer Auto flash as well as P-TTL, digital TTL and analog TTL support. -Adam On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds neat, very neat. Could sway me towards Metz. I'm very close to buying a flash, after I found an old Hama flash bracket at the bottom of a closset. I have found memories about that piece of equpment. It gave me much better light than on camera flash. And it made me look pro, as I recall :-) Now I've grown grey, and with it I will look just almost as cool as Greywolf with his Speedgraphic PJ setup :-) Speaking of brackets. It has a standard sync connection. What's my best options for triggering the flash if I want to have some kind autofunction? That leaves standard sync out, deosn't it? I'm not very fond of the wireless system, the flash tends to power down on me when I need it. So I beleave the Pentax sync is the only alternative left. Am I right about that? MaritimTim (flash novice) 2008/5/19 Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]: a little feature which *might* be usefull to some so I will write about it again: Metz offers (with 58AF1 only, the 48AF1 has no embedded sensor) auto flash. Metz auto flash works automaticaly which means it reads aperture/iso/focal etc settings from the camera. It means you can use auto flash as easily as PTTL but.. without PTTL. Usefull if you don't like PTTL or if you need to cure problems as: * reflections (mirrors etc with which PTTL sucks) * poeple closing their eyes due to the early metering flash from PTTL. This feature will of course work as well with older camera (Z/PZ, MZ, SF, *ist, DSLRs etc.) It also feature HSS, wireless etc... of crouse. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- MaritimTim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: wHICH fLASH UNIT FOR K10D OR K20D
As I read Thibouille the Metz auto function is slightly more sophisticated. Is it something I overlook here? MaritimTim 2008/5/20 Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Note that both the Pentax AF540FGZ and AF360FGZ offer Auto flash as well as P-TTL, digital TTL and analog TTL support. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: wHICH fLASH UNIT FOR K10D OR K20D
The Metz can set aperture and ISO data automatically, the Pentax's can't. The Pentax is guaranteed to work on newer P-TTL bodies, the Metz isn't. -Adam On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I read Thibouille the Metz auto function is slightly more sophisticated. Is it something I overlook here? MaritimTim 2008/5/20 Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Note that both the Pentax AF540FGZ and AF360FGZ offer Auto flash as well as P-TTL, digital TTL and analog TTL support. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: wHICH fLASH UNIT FOR K10D OR K20D
There are 3 pentax flash units that are P-TTL capabile, 200FG, 360FGZ and the 540FGZ and will work on both camera's. The 200 is the baby with no twist or tilt and limited functions. The 360 is middle of the road with all functions including but not limited to High Speed Sync , Wireless and AF spot beam but only has a tilt head The 540 is the most powerful one and can do everything the 360 can and has a twist added to the head. It also accepts an external battery pack and a pentax 5P sync cable with out the need for an adaptor. I know of 3 3rd party flashes that use P-TTL and should work with the k20D the sigma DG500super mecablitz 58 AF-1 digital mecablitz 48 AF-1 digital. I personally would like a very close look at the 58 AF-1. It has a 2ndary flash in the body of the unit for fill light as well as it's main head that has twist and tilt. Both Metz units has firmware upgradable via a usb cable and can be done by the user. I own a 360FGZ. sometimes, is isn't powerfull enough for what I want, untill I can afford a bigger unit, it will have to do. James Which flash unit should I get for my K10D which will also be right for a K20D? I never realy started getting unists for other than TTL, which doesn't work with the new Pentax models. All the best Jens Bladt Denmark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: wHICH fLASH UNIT FOR K10D OR K20D
Jens, The 540FGZ works fine, but it is the most expensive flash I own. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 6:27 AM, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are 3 pentax flash units that are P-TTL capabile, 200FG, 360FGZ and the 540FGZ and will work on both camera's. The 200 is the baby with no twist or tilt and limited functions. The 360 is middle of the road with all functions including but not limited to High Speed Sync , Wireless and AF spot beam but only has a tilt head The 540 is the most powerful one and can do everything the 360 can and has a twist added to the head. It also accepts an external battery pack and a pentax 5P sync cable with out the need for an adaptor. I know of 3 3rd party flashes that use P-TTL and should work with the k20D the sigma DG500super mecablitz 58 AF-1 digital mecablitz 48 AF-1 digital. I personally would like a very close look at the 58 AF-1. It has a 2ndary flash in the body of the unit for fill light as well as it's main head that has twist and tilt. Both Metz units has firmware upgradable via a usb cable and can be done by the user. I own a 360FGZ. sometimes, is isn't powerfull enough for what I want, untill I can afford a bigger unit, it will have to do. James Which flash unit should I get for my K10D which will also be right for a K20D? I never realy started getting unists for other than TTL, which doesn't work with the new Pentax models. All the best Jens Bladt Denmark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The Pentax AF 540 is great in terms of consistency and exposure. All of its special functions, such as high speed synch and wireless, work flawlessly. I've owned both it and the Sigma 500 (530) Super. The Pentax 540 is vastly superior. It's perfectly mated to the cameras. It's only weak point is its locking mechanism, but if you take care in operating the clamp, it will be fine. Paul On May 18, 2008, at 5:32 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear PDML members Which flash unit should I get for my K10D which will also be right for a K20D? I never realy started getting unists for other than TTL, which doesn't work with the new Pentax models. All the best Jens Bladt Denmark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks James and Bob Power is not the main issue, sinsce I own two Metz 60 units for professional work. But I need a nice flash for casual shooting, when there's not a ot of time for experiementing. i THINK I'll give the af540 fgz AND THE meTZ 58 A CLOSER LOOK :-). BEST REGARDS JENS Jens, The 540FGZ works fine, but it is the most expensive flash I own. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 6:27 AM, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are 3 pentax flash units that are P-TTL capabile, 200FG, 360FGZ and the 540FGZ and will work on both camera's. The 200 is the baby with no twist or tilt and limited functions. The 360 is middle of the road with all functions including but not limited to High Speed Sync , Wireless and AF spot beam but only has a tilt head The 540 is the most powerful one and can do everything the 360 can and has a twist added to the head. It also accepts an external battery pack and a pentax 5P sync cable with out the need for an adaptor. I know of 3 3rd party flashes that use P-TTL and should work with the k20D the sigma DG500super mecablitz 58 AF-1 digital mecablitz 48 AF-1 digital. I personally would like a very close look at the 58 AF-1. It has a 2ndary flash in the body of the unit for fill light as well as it's main head that has twist and tilt. Both Metz units has firmware upgradable via a usb cable and can be done by the user. I own a 360FGZ. sometimes, is isn't powerfull enough for what I want, untill I can afford a bigger unit, it will have to do. James Which flash unit should I get for my K10D which will also be right for a K20D? I never realy started getting unists for other than TTL, which doesn't work with the new Pentax models. All the best Jens Bladt Denmark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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THANKS PAUL. I know Pentax makes great quality flash units. I used to have the old AF 500 FTZ which is built like a tank and beautifully designed. Unfortunately this is a ttl only unit. I'm supprised to hera about problems with the$ locking mechanism. The Metz 58-1 costs appr. 40 USD less than the AF 540FGZ , but less powerfull (only GN 42). In Germany the Metz is 280 Euro, the Pentax is 320 USD. Regards Jens The Pentax AF 540 is great in terms of consistency and exposure. All of its special functions, such as high speed synch and wireless, work flawlessly. I've owned both it and the Sigma 500 (530) Super. The Pentax 540 is vastly superior. It's perfectly mated to the cameras. It's only weak point is its locking mechanism, but if you take care in operating the clamp, it will be fine. Paul On May 18, 2008, at 5:32 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear PDML members Which flash unit should I get for my K10D which will also be right for a K20D? I never realy started getting unists for other than TTL, which doesn't work with the new Pentax models. All the best Jens Bladt Denmark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It depends on what you want to do with it surely. As long as it has a low enough trigger voltage, (and IIRC the K10 and K20 both have built in voltage limiters). So most any flash will be right and work with them. If you want full automation that's a different question. (Just being a wise ass, move along now). [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear PDML members Which flash unit should I get for my K10D which will also be right for a K20D? I never realy started getting unists for other than TTL, which doesn't work with the new Pentax models. All the best Jens Bladt Denmark -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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are you sure about the Metz 58 af 1. I looked at the web site and it has a GN of 58 @ 105mm Not sure what it would be at 85mm but it would be more then 42. Tho I would say the pentax is more powerfull but not a great deal more. James The Metz 58-1 costs appr. 40 USD less than the AF 540FGZ , but less powerfull (only GN 42). In Germany the Metz is 280 Euro, the Pentax is 320 USD. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
