Re: Yet another LightRoom question (YaLRQ :-) )

2013-08-22 Thread Bob W
Create a collection and put in it all those you've initially selected. 

Award each photo one star. 

Put a filter on the collection so that it shows just those photos which have 
one star. 

As you review each picture either remove the star, or give it another star. 

When you've completed the first round, change the filter to 2 stars. 

Repeat until you have the right number of photos, or run out of stars.

B

On 22 Aug 2013, at 06:03, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:

 Galia's approaching the age of 12 also known as bat mitzvah. I have order of 
 10k pictures of her that I have to look at and choose those that we will 
 print in her celebrational album.
 
 Now, I have my filter that readily produces me these 10k photos to look at. 
 But is there a way in which I can put a bookmark of some sort so as to mark a 
 photo at which I stopped last time? Of course I can use color flags or other 
 things. But I need it so that I can easily return to it without spoiling the 
 set of photos that is being shown to me via the filter.
 
 The LR in question is 4.4.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Boris
 
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Re: Yet another LightRoom question (YaLRQ :-) )

2013-08-22 Thread Boris Liberman
Great idea, Bob! Thanks!

On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 Create a collection and put in it all those you've initially selected.

 Award each photo one star.

 Put a filter on the collection so that it shows just those photos which have 
 one star.

 As you review each picture either remove the star, or give it another star.

 When you've completed the first round, change the filter to 2 stars.

 Repeat until you have the right number of photos, or run out of stars.

 B

 On 22 Aug 2013, at 06:03, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:

 Galia's approaching the age of 12 also known as bat mitzvah. I have order of 
 10k pictures of her that I have to look at and choose those that we will 
 print in her celebrational album.

 Now, I have my filter that readily produces me these 10k photos to look at. 
 But is there a way in which I can put a bookmark of some sort so as to mark 
 a photo at which I stopped last time? Of course I can use color flags or 
 other things. But I need it so that I can easily return to it without 
 spoiling the set of photos that is being shown to me via the filter.

 The LR in question is 4.4.

 Thanks in advance.

 Boris

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Re: Yet another LightRoom question (YaLRQ :-) )

2013-08-22 Thread Stan Halpin
Alternative solution:

When you end a session, then Select all those you've looked at. Keyword as 
Reviewed. Every time you resume, use the same filter and ordering to pull your 
10k photos, then filter that set on the Keyword Reviewed. The last picture in 
the new set will be the last picture you looked at in your previous session. 
Select it, return to the previous broader filters, and proceed to screen until 
your eyes cross from fatigue.

stan

On Aug 22, 2013, at 2:52 AM, Bob W wrote:

 Create a collection and put in it all those you've initially selected. 
 
 Award each photo one star. 
 
 Put a filter on the collection so that it shows just those photos which have 
 one star. 
 
 As you review each picture either remove the star, or give it another star. 
 
 When you've completed the first round, change the filter to 2 stars. 
 
 Repeat until you have the right number of photos, or run out of stars.
 
 B
 
 On 22 Aug 2013, at 06:03, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Galia's approaching the age of 12 also known as bat mitzvah. I have order of 
 10k pictures of her that I have to look at and choose those that we will 
 print in her celebrational album.
 
 Now, I have my filter that readily produces me these 10k photos to look at. 
 But is there a way in which I can put a bookmark of some sort so as to mark 
 a photo at which I stopped last time? Of course I can use color flags or 
 other things. But I need it so that I can easily return to it without 
 spoiling the set of photos that is being shown to me via the filter.
 
 The LR in question is 4.4.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Boris
 
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Re: yet another Lightroom question

2008-04-09 Thread Charles Robinson
On Apr 9, 2008, at 7:05, Henk Terhell wrote:

 In LR I see so far no easy way to do thisin the same folder and upon
 saving the JPG it is hard to find back the folder in which the DNG  
 file
 is located.

I'm just starting to get the hang of Lightroom myself, but I think one  
thing you need to get used to is the idea that Lightroom doesn't save  
your JPEG results anywhere in particular.   When you make an edit/ 
develop a RAW file, all you are really doing is entering the EDITS  
into a database.  The RAW file sits there, untouched.

When you decide to share this JPEG file with someone out there -  
either by copying the JPEG out, or creating a slide show, or by  
setting something up on the Web - that's when the file is exported  
and all of the changes you want to have happen to the file are applied.

You don't really need to save the JPEG anywhere unless you're going to  
share it with someone.  Otherwise, the Lightroom database has a list  
of the changes required to convert the original file to one that looks  
like what you want it to look like.

Also - if you want to know where a file is located, there is a panel  
on the right-hand side with all of the metadata - one of them is the  
folder name where the original file is located - if you click on that,  
it shows you where that folder is in the Folders tree on the left- 
hand side.  Right-clicking (or Ctrl-clicking on the Mac) that folder  
lets you choose, among other options, to show in Finder (and, I'll  
wager, Show in Explorer on Windows) where the file lives in your  
directories/folders.
  But no doubt I'm still on
 the bottom of the learning curve here.


I agree that there is tons to learn to use it properly.  I've been  
playing around with it for the past week and I've just barely  
scratched the surface.  There are a number of tutorials out there  
which are worth watching/reading to get the basics in hand.

I am starting to really like it.

  -Charles

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Re: yet another Lightroom question

2008-04-09 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:42:57 +0200 schreef Charles Robinson  
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 On Apr 9, 2008, at 7:05, Henk Terhell wrote:

 I agree that there is tons to learn to use it properly.  I've been
 playing around with it for the past week and I've just barely
 scratched the surface.  There are a number of tutorials out there
 which are worth watching/reading to get the basics in hand.

I'm in the same boat: would you have any links to recommended reading?

And, while more or less on the subject, is there a way to edit 'maker  
notes', especially lens name in the exif? If a shot is by an 'A series  
lens' with SR set to 50, I know which one it is. I'd like to store that  
info in the exif...

 I am starting to really like it.

Definately.

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Re: yet another Lightroom question

2008-04-09 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  And, while more or less on the subject, is there a way to edit 'maker
  notes', especially lens name in the exif? If a shot is by an 'A series
  lens' with SR set to 50, I know which one it is. I'd like to store that
  info in the exif...


No, but you can add IPTC tags with the info in question. EXIF is for
camera-added data, IPTC is for the rest (including copyright  all
that jazz)

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Re: yet another Lightroom question

2008-04-09 Thread P. J. Alling
I've never used it but this says you can use it to edit EXIF information.

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Graphic/Digital-Photo-Tools/EXIFeditor.shtml

I'm not sure but the lens name may be stored as a code of some type 
which would be used in conjunction with a Lookup table to display human 
readable information,.  I know that none of the RAW converters I use, 
except for the Pentax Photo Browser/Photo Lab combination seem to be 
able to tell me the lens name.  If there's no code you won't be able to 
update that field to display anything meaningful.

Adam Maas wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
  And, while more or less on the subject, is there a way to edit 'maker
  notes', especially lens name in the exif? If a shot is by an 'A series
  lens' with SR set to 50, I know which one it is. I'd like to store that
  info in the exif...

 

 No, but you can add IPTC tags with the info in question. EXIF is for
 camera-added data, IPTC is for the rest (including copyright  all
 that jazz)

   


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Re: yet another Lightroom question

2008-04-09 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:36:27 +0200 schreef Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:


  And, while more or less on the subject, is there a way to edit 'maker
  notes', especially lens name in the exif? If a shot is by an 'A series
  lens' with SR set to 50, I know which one it is. I'd like to store that
  info in the exif...

 No, but you can add IPTC tags with the info in question. EXIF is for
 camera-added data, IPTC is for the rest (including copyright  all
 that jazz)

Ah, o.k.

There appear to be some tools around to edit EXIF, but they didn't work on  
the 'maker notes'.

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Re: yet another Lightroom question

2008-04-09 Thread Charles Robinson
On Apr 9, 2008, at 12:36, Lucas Rijnders wrote:
 Op Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:42:57 +0200 schreef Charles Robinson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Apr 9, 2008, at 7:05, Henk Terhell wrote:

 I agree that there is tons to learn to use it properly.  I've been
 playing around with it for the past week and I've just barely
 scratched the surface.  There are a number of tutorials out there
 which are worth watching/reading to get the basics in hand.

 I'm in the same boat: would you have any links to recommended reading?


I don't know if it's recommended because I haven't evaluated all of  
their stuff yet, but this is a good start:

http://www.photoshopsupport.com/lightroom/tutorials.html

I believe that Adobe has video tutorials on their website as well.

I also downloaded an EBook with some good get yourself oriented  
information.   There is a PDF from Adobe called: Lightroom - Getting  
Started which isn't too bad.

 And, while more or less on the subject, is there a way to edit 'maker
 notes', especially lens name in the exif? If a shot is by an 'A series
 lens' with SR set to 50, I know which one it is. I'd like to store  
 that
 info in the exif...


That would be nice.  I don't think that information is editable -  
although I could be wrong!

  -Charles

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Re: yet another Lightroom question

2008-04-09 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  And, while more or less on the subject, is there a way to edit 'maker
  notes', especially lens name in the exif? If a shot is by an 'A series
  lens' with SR set to 50, I know which one it is. I'd like to store that
  info in the exif...

What I've seen in tools like PhotoME is that the lens type maker
note is just a number, and the software then has to look up that
number in its own list of lenses.  It's *not* stored in the EXIF as a
text string like PENTAX FA 50mm f/1.4.  Sometimes when I've gotten a
new (modern) lens, I've had to let software authors know that a
certain number corresponds to a certain lens.

My guess is that there's no way to modify the EXIF to indicate an old
A lens, because those lenses were never assigned an ID number.

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re: yet another Lightroom question

2008-04-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Charles answered Henk's original question on point.

Summarizing, Lightroom does not create a JPEG, TIFF or PSD rendering  
of a RAW file with your edits until you tell it to explicitly with  
the Export function or implicitly with the edit in photoshop... or  
edit in another editor commands. (When you use these two  
commands, it creates a rendering in TIFF or PSD format alongside the  
original RAW file on disk, and this rendering is automatically  
entered into the catalog as well). In normal operation when you're  
using Lightroom to manipulate cropping, tonality, etc, it records  
your editing instructions in its catalog (and optionally in metadata  
either as an XMP sidecar file or into a DNG file directly) and  
renders the file as you have edited it on the fly for viewing and  
display. You can immediately get to any file that you see in the  
Library module using the Show In Finder [Windows Explorer]  
commands ... but in essence, you really shouldn't have to do that  
very often at all.

It will create a JPEG/DNG/TIFF/PSD rendered file on demand via the  
Export function and place it anywhere you want to store it. My  
workflow places files that I import into a directory tree rooted as  
work-in-progress, files that I export are organized into a  
directory tree rooted as completed-images. Subdirectories tagged  
with project number, date and event, etc, are in both of these trees.  
The flow of work goes from card to work in progress to completed  
images after I'm done with them, if I need to export them. My  
working catalog contains only work in progress directory tree, I  
maintain a second catalog which imports only the completed images  
directory tree.

I've found this to be an efficient organizational model for how to  
coordinate and store files and keep what I'm working on separate from  
what I've completed in the file system.

From: Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 And, while more or less on the subject, is there a way to edit 'maker
 notes', especially lens name in the exif? If a shot is by an 'A series
 lens' with SR set to 50, I know which one it is. I'd like to store  
 that
 info in the exif...
...
 There appear to be some tools around to edit EXIF, but they didn't  
 work on
 the 'maker notes'.

From: Matthew Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 What I've seen in tools like PhotoME is that the lens type maker
 note is just a number, and the software then has to look up that
 number in its own list of lenses.  It's *not* stored in the EXIF as a
 text string like PENTAX FA 50mm f/1.4.  Sometimes when I've gotten a
 new (modern) lens, I've had to let software authors know that a
 certain number corresponds to a certain lens.

 My guess is that there's no way to modify the EXIF to indicate an old
 A lens, because those lenses were never assigned an ID number.

Yes.

If you want to look at EXIF metadata, the tool you want to analyze  
and manipulate EXIF information is EXIFtool by Phil Harvey:

   http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/

This is a command line tool with extensive ability to read and edit  
EXIF data in a huge range of file types, including RAW file types. Be  
aware that manipulating the lens codes and other private maker data  
can be a little tricky and often doesn't give you want you want. I  
normally use the tool to read the data for analysis, not to edit it.  
As Matthew said, you can't put in lens data for lenses that never had  
it such that Lightroom will recognize it. Lightroom recognizes all  
Pentax lenses properly now, far as I can tell, given the data that is  
available.

Learning and reference resources for Lightroom continue to grow, any  
list posted is quickly outdated with new ones. I strongly recommend  
people work with the video tutorials available at Adobe and Luminous- 
Landscape.com, and a few others. Adobe's tutorial videos are at

http://www.adobe.com/designcenter/video_workshop/

Very well done stuff. There're also the news and blogs sites, which  
each have a bazillion other links to spin off from:

http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/
http://lightroom-news.com/

The books by Martin Evening, Scott Kelby and others have all been  
good, do a search on Amazon.com for current titles.

Godfrey

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Re: yet another Lightroom question

2008-04-09 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:57:57 +0200 schreef Godfrey DiGiorgi  
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 it such that Lightroom will recognize it. Lightroom recognizes all
 Pentax lenses properly now, far as I can tell, given the data that is
 available.

I obviously use another class of lenses than you do: My SMC Pentax-FA  
1:4,7-5,6 80-200 reports as SMC Pentax-F 1:4,7-5,6 80-200.

I'll try to make adobe aware of this small glitch.

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Re: yet another Lightroom question

2008-04-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Apr 9, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Lucas Rijnders wrote:
 it such that Lightroom will recognize it. Lightroom recognizes all
 Pentax lenses properly now, far as I can tell, given the data that is
 available.

 I obviously use another class of lenses than you do: My SMC Pentax-FA
 1:4,7-5,6 80-200 reports as SMC Pentax-F 1:4,7-5,6 80-200.

 I'll try to make adobe aware of this small glitch.

lol ... Yes indeed, I don't own nor have I tested all Pentax lenses  
for their metadata description! ;-)

All the ones I've owned and used are reflected correctly in  
Lightroom's metadata browser. There's always some question as to  
whether the metadata is correct vs whether Lightroom is interpreting  
it correctly.

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RE: yet another Lightroom question

2008-04-09 Thread Henk Terhell
Thanks Charles and Godfrey. It is clear that it will need a different
file structure as I'm used to with Elements by just keeping both DNG and
JPG in the same folder.

Henk

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 Charles answered Henk's original question on point.


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Re: yet another Lightroom question

2008-04-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Lightroom can do that but it's not the best way to organize things IMO.

Godfrey

On Apr 9, 2008, at 1:55 PM, Henk Terhell wrote:
 Thanks Charles and Godfrey. It is clear that it will need a different
 file structure as I'm used to with Elements by just keeping both  
 DNG and
 JPG in the same folder.

 Henk

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 Charles answered Henk's original question on point.


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Re: yet another Lightroom question

2008-04-09 Thread Charles Robinson
On Apr 9, 2008, at 15:55, Henk Terhell wrote:
 Thanks Charles and Godfrey. It is clear that it will need a different
 file structure as I'm used to with Elements by just keeping both DNG  
 and
 JPG in the same folder.


I have a directory structure where my just imported from the camera  
files go, and I never ever write anything back into that directory.   
Those are my negatives.  Then, when those get too full I write 'em  
off to DVD and a disk image out on a harddrive.

Output/conversion/edited/whatever files go anywhere else...

  -Charles

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Re: yet another Lightroom question

2008-04-09 Thread David J Brooks
I have LR but not as a replacement for any PS programs.

It serves a very good purpose for some of my jpgs that have tricky WB
problems, but PS is still my main edit program

I am very happy with LR for the over all general edits it does.

I have not tried the new beta version, which i think address some of
the edit issues, but Godders is trying it out.

I'm sure i owe him more than 1 coffee for all his help:-)

Dave

On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Henk Terhell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Also I'm trying out now Lightroom as possible replacement of Elements on
  my new PC. In Elements I used to store my converted (exported) JPG's
  along with the DNG files in the same folder. I am used to identify
  folders based on subject and subfolders by date taken. Elements does
  import from card folders by date and also saves the converted JPG by
  default in the same folder unless you select to save for web w/o EXIF.
  In LR I see so far no easy way to do thisin the same folder and upon
  saving the JPG it is hard to find back the folder in which the DNG file
  is located. Another point is that in Elements the JPG file size can be
  set before saving, or the file size is indicated for the selected
  percentage of original, which I haven't figure out how to do in LR.
  Although LR has more handles in adjusting RAW's, I find Elements
  conversion menu easier to access than LR develop menu, as there is no
  need for scrolling on my 1024 by 768 screen. But no doubt I'm still on
  the bottom of the learning curve here.

  Henk


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Re: yet another Lightroom question

2008-04-09 Thread Doug Franklin
Matthew Hunt wrote:

 My guess is that there's no way to modify the EXIF to indicate an old
 A lens, because those lenses were never assigned an ID number.

Or there might be a single number amongst them that means aaah, it's an 
old 'A' lens, bah!. :-)

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Re: yet another Lightroom question

2008-04-09 Thread Doug Franklin
Lucas Rijnders wrote:

 There appear to be some tools around to edit EXIF, but they didn't work on  
 the 'maker notes'.

That's largely due to the private nature of the MakerNote tag data and 
the nature of the way that TIFF/RAW files are organized.  The 
manufacturers usually don't publish their MakerNote format, and it often 
changes gratuitously from camera to camera.  Plus, some programs and 
devices that write RAW photo files don't follow the standard for storing 
location references for data in other parts of the file, so doing 
anything that changes the size of the MakerNote data, or pretty much 
anything in the EXIF tags for those files, screws them up, often 
irretrievably.

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Thanks,
DougF (KG4LMZ)

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