Sorry, another Epson 2400 problem
Hi all. Last week my 2400 was working fine. This week its printing out dark. One print had an sRGB colour space look to it even though I'm printing in Rgb. For some reason, when i went to print this morning, all my settings in print preview were changed. I reset them and printed. Same results. I notice now, where i only had Adobe rgb 1998 as an option in the upper left drop down menu i know have an output option, that was never there before. I cleaned the nozzles and no effect. Only thing that has happened that i know about from last week is, i unplugged everything this morning for a small Thunder shower. and the other day lucy the kitten jumped from a ledge onto the printer top, about 3'. Any ideas what to do next,. Could that landing have caused any problems.?? I ran my Spyder I before i did the prints last Friday and all was well. This is frustrating. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sorry, another Epson 2400 problem
On what system? What is your printing workflow? etc Photoshop often seems to lose the settings at the driver level the first time you go to the Print driver dialog from Print With Preview. You should always check them before making a print. Lightroom retains all the driver settings properly, ime. Godfrey On Aug 23, 2007, at 7:39 AM, David J Brooks wrote: Hi all. Last week my 2400 was working fine. This week its printing out dark. One print had an sRGB colour space look to it even though I'm printing in Rgb. For some reason, when i went to print this morning, all my settings in print preview were changed. I reset them and printed. Same results. I notice now, where i only had Adobe rgb 1998 as an option in the upper left drop down menu i know have an output option, that was never there before. I cleaned the nozzles and no effect. Only thing that has happened that i know about from last week is, i unplugged everything this morning for a small Thunder shower. and the other day lucy the kitten jumped from a ledge onto the printer top, about 3'. Any ideas what to do next,. Could that landing have caused any problems.?? I ran my Spyder I before i did the prints last Friday and all was well. This is frustrating. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sorry, another Epson 2400 problem
And thats when this started, from the customer file Dave On 8/23/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PC XP home CS2. Calibrate monitor with Syder I. Adjust photo in PSCS2 Print from Preview Colour Adobe rgb Let PS determine colours Set paper profile and relative colourmatic and black point Print box is set up for paper etc. Advanced and turn of colour management Basically everything is the same as Saturday, but now its darker than the monitor. I can't believe this could do anything to anything, but i printed a file that was sent to me by a customer. My file i sold him and he wanted a 4x6 print. When i loaded it, there was no colour info in the file and when i went to print preview, all the settings were different, i had to reset everything Dave On 8/23/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On what system? What is your printing workflow? etc Photoshop often seems to lose the settings at the driver level the first time you go to the Print driver dialog from Print With Preview. You should always check them before making a print. Lightroom retains all the driver settings properly, ime. Godfrey On Aug 23, 2007, at 7:39 AM, David J Brooks wrote: Hi all. Last week my 2400 was working fine. This week its printing out dark. One print had an sRGB colour space look to it even though I'm printing in Rgb. For some reason, when i went to print this morning, all my settings in print preview were changed. I reset them and printed. Same results. I notice now, where i only had Adobe rgb 1998 as an option in the upper left drop down menu i know have an output option, that was never there before. I cleaned the nozzles and no effect. Only thing that has happened that i know about from last week is, i unplugged everything this morning for a small Thunder shower. and the other day lucy the kitten jumped from a ledge onto the printer top, about 3'. Any ideas what to do next,. Could that landing have caused any problems.?? I ran my Spyder I before i did the prints last Friday and all was well. This is frustrating. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sorry, another Epson 2400 problem
So have you tried going back to your original reference file for the photo, with the embedded profile, and printing from that? The customer file was evidently stripped of any profile information, which means you need to profile it properly and readjust it for printing.. If you are not keeping a reference file for work you sell, well, you ought to be... It's the only way to assure that you can reproduce exactly what you've done before. I keep a reference image file of a grayscale and macbeth color chart handy so I can proof the printer in case there is any question against prior print runs, like when I change ink carts or change monitor/printer configurations. G On Aug 23, 2007, at 10:38 AM, David J Brooks wrote: And thats when this started, from the customer file Dave On 8/23/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PC XP home CS2. Calibrate monitor with Syder I. Adjust photo in PSCS2 Print from Preview Colour Adobe rgb Let PS determine colours Set paper profile and relative colourmatic and black point Print box is set up for paper etc. Advanced and turn off colour management Basically everything is the same as Saturday, but now its darker than the monitor. I can't believe this could do anything to anything, but i printed a file that was sent to me by a customer. My file i sold him and he wanted a 4x6 print. When i loaded it, there was no colour info in the file and when i went to print preview, all the settings were different, i had to reset everything Dave On 8/23/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On what system? What is your printing workflow? etc Photoshop often seems to lose the settings at the driver level the first time you go to the Print driver dialog from Print With Preview. You should always check them before making a print. Lightroom retains all the driver settings properly, ime. Godfrey On Aug 23, 2007, at 7:39 AM, David J Brooks wrote: Hi all. Last week my 2400 was working fine. This week its printing out dark. One print had an sRGB colour space look to it even though I'm printing in Rgb. For some reason, when i went to print this morning, all my settings in print preview were changed. I reset them and printed. Same results. I notice now, where i only had Adobe rgb 1998 as an option in the upper left drop down menu i know have an output option, that was never there before. I cleaned the nozzles and no effect. Only thing that has happened that i know about from last week is, i unplugged everything this morning for a small Thunder shower. and the other day lucy the kitten jumped from a ledge onto the printer top, about 3'. Any ideas what to do next,. Could that landing have caused any problems.?? I ran my Spyder I before i did the prints last Friday and all was well. This is frustrating. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sorry, another Epson 2400 problem
Sorry, i did keep the original file, he just wanted a file to use for a web thing, and he sent me back his adjutments. I also went and printed several other horse photos from different days, and they came out dark aswell. The photos them selves are nice and crisp and sharpness is right were it should be. Maybe i'll re calibrate and try again. Its almost as if they are being printed in sRGB colour space but i have them assigned to Adobe 1998 rgb in the file and print previews etc. I'll try and re calibrate Dave On 8/23/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So have you tried going back to your original reference file for the photo, with the embedded profile, and printing from that? The customer file was evidently stripped of any profile information, which means you need to profile it properly and readjust it for printing.. If you are not keeping a reference file for work you sell, well, you ought to be... It's the only way to assure that you can reproduce exactly what you've done before. I keep a reference image file of a grayscale and macbeth color chart handy so I can proof the printer in case there is any question against prior print runs, like when I change ink carts or change monitor/printer configurations. G On Aug 23, 2007, at 10:38 AM, David J Brooks wrote: And thats when this started, from the customer file Dave On 8/23/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PC XP home CS2. Calibrate monitor with Syder I. Adjust photo in PSCS2 Print from Preview Colour Adobe rgb Let PS determine colours Set paper profile and relative colourmatic and black point Print box is set up for paper etc. Advanced and turn off colour management Basically everything is the same as Saturday, but now its darker than the monitor. I can't believe this could do anything to anything, but i printed a file that was sent to me by a customer. My file i sold him and he wanted a 4x6 print. When i loaded it, there was no colour info in the file and when i went to print preview, all the settings were different, i had to reset everything Dave On 8/23/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On what system? What is your printing workflow? etc Photoshop often seems to lose the settings at the driver level the first time you go to the Print driver dialog from Print With Preview. You should always check them before making a print. Lightroom retains all the driver settings properly, ime. Godfrey On Aug 23, 2007, at 7:39 AM, David J Brooks wrote: Hi all. Last week my 2400 was working fine. This week its printing out dark. One print had an sRGB colour space look to it even though I'm printing in Rgb. For some reason, when i went to print this morning, all my settings in print preview were changed. I reset them and printed. Same results. I notice now, where i only had Adobe rgb 1998 as an option in the upper left drop down menu i know have an output option, that was never there before. I cleaned the nozzles and no effect. Only thing that has happened that i know about from last week is, i unplugged everything this morning for a small Thunder shower. and the other day lucy the kitten jumped from a ledge onto the printer top, about 3'. Any ideas what to do next,. Could that landing have caused any problems.?? I ran my Spyder I before i did the prints last Friday and all was well. This is frustrating. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sorry, another Epson 2400 problem
I tyhink, maybe that file he sent me screwed something up. I rebooted and uncliked the black point box and reprinted on of the horse shots. Looks a lot better. Something with NO coulr management in the return file might have set up flags in the epson. I 'm just quess on that though Sorry to bother. Dave On 8/23/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, i did keep the original file, he just wanted a file to use for a web thing, and he sent me back his adjutments. I also went and printed several other horse photos from different days, and they came out dark aswell. The photos them selves are nice and crisp and sharpness is right were it should be. Maybe i'll re calibrate and try again. Its almost as if they are being printed in sRGB colour space but i have them assigned to Adobe 1998 rgb in the file and print previews etc. I'll try and re calibrate Dave On 8/23/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So have you tried going back to your original reference file for the photo, with the embedded profile, and printing from that? The customer file was evidently stripped of any profile information, which means you need to profile it properly and readjust it for printing.. If you are not keeping a reference file for work you sell, well, you ought to be... It's the only way to assure that you can reproduce exactly what you've done before. I keep a reference image file of a grayscale and macbeth color chart handy so I can proof the printer in case there is any question against prior print runs, like when I change ink carts or change monitor/printer configurations. G On Aug 23, 2007, at 10:38 AM, David J Brooks wrote: And thats when this started, from the customer file Dave On 8/23/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PC XP home CS2. Calibrate monitor with Syder I. Adjust photo in PSCS2 Print from Preview Colour Adobe rgb Let PS determine colours Set paper profile and relative colourmatic and black point Print box is set up for paper etc. Advanced and turn off colour management Basically everything is the same as Saturday, but now its darker than the monitor. I can't believe this could do anything to anything, but i printed a file that was sent to me by a customer. My file i sold him and he wanted a 4x6 print. When i loaded it, there was no colour info in the file and when i went to print preview, all the settings were different, i had to reset everything Dave On 8/23/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On what system? What is your printing workflow? etc Photoshop often seems to lose the settings at the driver level the first time you go to the Print driver dialog from Print With Preview. You should always check them before making a print. Lightroom retains all the driver settings properly, ime. Godfrey On Aug 23, 2007, at 7:39 AM, David J Brooks wrote: Hi all. Last week my 2400 was working fine. This week its printing out dark. One print had an sRGB colour space look to it even though I'm printing in Rgb. For some reason, when i went to print this morning, all my settings in print preview were changed. I reset them and printed. Same results. I notice now, where i only had Adobe rgb 1998 as an option in the upper left drop down menu i know have an output option, that was never there before. I cleaned the nozzles and no effect. Only thing that has happened that i know about from last week is, i unplugged everything this morning for a small Thunder shower. and the other day lucy the kitten jumped from a ledge onto the printer top, about 3'. Any ideas what to do next,. Could that landing have caused any problems.?? I ran my Spyder I before i did the prints last Friday and all was well. This is frustrating. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sorry, another Epson 2400 problem
PC XP home CS2. Calibrate monitor with Syder I. Adjust photo in PSCS2 Print from Preview Colour Adobe rgb Let PS determine colours Set paper profile and relative colourmatic and black point Print box is set up for paper etc. Advanced and turn of colour management Basically everything is the same as Saturday, but now its darker than the monitor. I can't believe this could do anything to anything, but i printed a file that was sent to me by a customer. My file i sold him and he wanted a 4x6 print. When i loaded it, there was no colour info in the file and when i went to print preview, all the settings were different, i had to reset everything Dave On 8/23/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On what system? What is your printing workflow? etc Photoshop often seems to lose the settings at the driver level the first time you go to the Print driver dialog from Print With Preview. You should always check them before making a print. Lightroom retains all the driver settings properly, ime. Godfrey On Aug 23, 2007, at 7:39 AM, David J Brooks wrote: Hi all. Last week my 2400 was working fine. This week its printing out dark. One print had an sRGB colour space look to it even though I'm printing in Rgb. For some reason, when i went to print this morning, all my settings in print preview were changed. I reset them and printed. Same results. I notice now, where i only had Adobe rgb 1998 as an option in the upper left drop down menu i know have an output option, that was never there before. I cleaned the nozzles and no effect. Only thing that has happened that i know about from last week is, i unplugged everything this morning for a small Thunder shower. and the other day lucy the kitten jumped from a ledge onto the printer top, about 3'. Any ideas what to do next,. Could that landing have caused any problems.?? I ran my Spyder I before i did the prints last Friday and all was well. This is frustrating. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net