Sorry, another Epson 2400 problem

2007-08-23 Thread David J Brooks
Hi all.

Last week my 2400 was working fine. This week its printing out dark.
One print had an sRGB colour space look to it even though I'm printing
in Rgb.

For some reason, when i went to print this morning, all my settings in
print preview were changed. I reset them and printed. Same results.
I notice now, where i only had Adobe rgb 1998 as an option in the
upper left drop down menu i know have an output option, that was never
there before.

I cleaned the nozzles and no effect.

Only thing that has happened that i know about from last week is, i
unplugged everything this morning for a small Thunder shower. and the
other day lucy the kitten jumped from a ledge onto the printer top,
about 3'.

Any ideas what to do next,. Could that landing have caused any problems.??

I ran my Spyder I before i did the prints last Friday and all was well.

This is frustrating.

Dave

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Re: Sorry, another Epson 2400 problem

2007-08-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On what system? What is your printing workflow? etc

Photoshop often seems to lose the settings at the driver level the  
first time you go to the Print driver dialog from Print With Preview.  
You should always check them before making a print.

Lightroom retains all the driver settings properly, ime.

Godfrey



On Aug 23, 2007, at 7:39 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Hi all.

 Last week my 2400 was working fine. This week its printing out dark.
 One print had an sRGB colour space look to it even though I'm printing
 in Rgb.

 For some reason, when i went to print this morning, all my settings in
 print preview were changed. I reset them and printed. Same results.
 I notice now, where i only had Adobe rgb 1998 as an option in the
 upper left drop down menu i know have an output option, that was never
 there before.

 I cleaned the nozzles and no effect.

 Only thing that has happened that i know about from last week is, i
 unplugged everything this morning for a small Thunder shower. and the
 other day lucy the kitten jumped from a ledge onto the printer top,
 about 3'.

 Any ideas what to do next,. Could that landing have caused any  
 problems.??

 I ran my Spyder I before i did the prints last Friday and all was  
 well.

 This is frustrating.


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Re: Sorry, another Epson 2400 problem

2007-08-23 Thread David J Brooks
And thats when this started, from the customer file

Dave

On 8/23/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 PC XP home CS2.

 Calibrate monitor with Syder I.
 Adjust photo in PSCS2

 Print from Preview
 Colour Adobe rgb
 Let PS determine colours
 Set paper profile and relative colourmatic  and black point

 Print box is set up for paper etc.
 Advanced and turn of colour management

 Basically everything is the same as Saturday, but now its darker than
 the monitor.

 I can't believe this could do anything to anything, but i printed a
 file that was sent to me by a customer. My file i sold him and he
 wanted a 4x6 print.

 When i loaded it, there was no colour info in the file and when i went
 to print preview, all the settings were different, i had to reset
 everything

 Dave

 On 8/23/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On what system? What is your printing workflow? etc
 
  Photoshop often seems to lose the settings at the driver level the
  first time you go to the Print driver dialog from Print With Preview.
  You should always check them before making a print.
 
  Lightroom retains all the driver settings properly, ime.
 
  Godfrey
 
 
 
  On Aug 23, 2007, at 7:39 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
 
   Hi all.
  
   Last week my 2400 was working fine. This week its printing out dark.
   One print had an sRGB colour space look to it even though I'm printing
   in Rgb.
  
   For some reason, when i went to print this morning, all my settings in
   print preview were changed. I reset them and printed. Same results.
   I notice now, where i only had Adobe rgb 1998 as an option in the
   upper left drop down menu i know have an output option, that was never
   there before.
  
   I cleaned the nozzles and no effect.
  
   Only thing that has happened that i know about from last week is, i
   unplugged everything this morning for a small Thunder shower. and the
   other day lucy the kitten jumped from a ledge onto the printer top,
   about 3'.
  
   Any ideas what to do next,. Could that landing have caused any
   problems.??
  
   I ran my Spyder I before i did the prints last Friday and all was
   well.
  
   This is frustrating.
 
 
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Re: Sorry, another Epson 2400 problem

2007-08-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
So have you tried going back to your original reference file for the  
photo, with the embedded profile, and printing from that? The  
customer file was evidently stripped of any profile information,  
which means you need to profile it properly and readjust it for  
printing..

If you are not keeping a reference file for work you sell, well, you  
ought to be... It's the only way to assure that you can reproduce  
exactly what you've done before.

I keep a reference image file of a grayscale and macbeth color chart  
handy so I can proof the printer in case there is any question  
against prior print runs, like when I change ink carts or change  
monitor/printer configurations.

G


On Aug 23, 2007, at 10:38 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 And thats when this started, from the customer file

 Dave

 On 8/23/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 PC XP home CS2.

 Calibrate monitor with Syder I.
 Adjust photo in PSCS2

 Print from Preview
 Colour Adobe rgb
 Let PS determine colours
 Set paper profile and relative colourmatic  and black point

 Print box is set up for paper etc.
 Advanced and turn off colour management

 Basically everything is the same as Saturday, but now its darker than
 the monitor.

 I can't believe this could do anything to anything, but i printed a
 file that was sent to me by a customer. My file i sold him and he
 wanted a 4x6 print.

 When i loaded it, there was no colour info in the file and when i  
 went
 to print preview, all the settings were different, i had to reset
 everything

 Dave

 On 8/23/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On what system? What is your printing workflow? etc

 Photoshop often seems to lose the settings at the driver level the
 first time you go to the Print driver dialog from Print With  
 Preview.
 You should always check them before making a print.

 Lightroom retains all the driver settings properly, ime.

 Godfrey



 On Aug 23, 2007, at 7:39 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Hi all.

 Last week my 2400 was working fine. This week its printing out  
 dark.
 One print had an sRGB colour space look to it even though I'm  
 printing
 in Rgb.

 For some reason, when i went to print this morning, all my  
 settings in
 print preview were changed. I reset them and printed. Same results.
 I notice now, where i only had Adobe rgb 1998 as an option in the
 upper left drop down menu i know have an output option, that was  
 never
 there before.

 I cleaned the nozzles and no effect.

 Only thing that has happened that i know about from last week is, i
 unplugged everything this morning for a small Thunder shower.  
 and the
 other day lucy the kitten jumped from a ledge onto the printer top,
 about 3'.

 Any ideas what to do next,. Could that landing have caused any
 problems.??

 I ran my Spyder I before i did the prints last Friday and all was
 well.

 This is frustrating.


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Re: Sorry, another Epson 2400 problem

2007-08-23 Thread David J Brooks
Sorry, i did keep the original file, he just wanted a file to use for
a web thing, and he sent me back his adjutments.

I also went and printed several other horse photos from different
days, and they came out dark aswell. The photos them selves are nice
and crisp and sharpness is right were it should be.

Maybe i'll re calibrate and try again.

Its almost as if they are being printed in sRGB colour space but i
have them assigned to Adobe 1998 rgb in the file and print previews
etc.

I'll try and re calibrate

Dave

On 8/23/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So have you tried going back to your original reference file for the
 photo, with the embedded profile, and printing from that? The
 customer file was evidently stripped of any profile information,
 which means you need to profile it properly and readjust it for
 printing..

 If you are not keeping a reference file for work you sell, well, you
 ought to be... It's the only way to assure that you can reproduce
 exactly what you've done before.

 I keep a reference image file of a grayscale and macbeth color chart
 handy so I can proof the printer in case there is any question
 against prior print runs, like when I change ink carts or change
 monitor/printer configurations.

 G


 On Aug 23, 2007, at 10:38 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

  And thats when this started, from the customer file
 
  Dave
 
  On 8/23/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  PC XP home CS2.
 
  Calibrate monitor with Syder I.
  Adjust photo in PSCS2
 
  Print from Preview
  Colour Adobe rgb
  Let PS determine colours
  Set paper profile and relative colourmatic  and black point
 
  Print box is set up for paper etc.
  Advanced and turn off colour management
 
  Basically everything is the same as Saturday, but now its darker than
  the monitor.
 
  I can't believe this could do anything to anything, but i printed a
  file that was sent to me by a customer. My file i sold him and he
  wanted a 4x6 print.
 
  When i loaded it, there was no colour info in the file and when i
  went
  to print preview, all the settings were different, i had to reset
  everything
 
  Dave
 
  On 8/23/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On what system? What is your printing workflow? etc
 
  Photoshop often seems to lose the settings at the driver level the
  first time you go to the Print driver dialog from Print With
  Preview.
  You should always check them before making a print.
 
  Lightroom retains all the driver settings properly, ime.
 
  Godfrey
 
 
 
  On Aug 23, 2007, at 7:39 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
 
  Hi all.
 
  Last week my 2400 was working fine. This week its printing out
  dark.
  One print had an sRGB colour space look to it even though I'm
  printing
  in Rgb.
 
  For some reason, when i went to print this morning, all my
  settings in
  print preview were changed. I reset them and printed. Same results.
  I notice now, where i only had Adobe rgb 1998 as an option in the
  upper left drop down menu i know have an output option, that was
  never
  there before.
 
  I cleaned the nozzles and no effect.
 
  Only thing that has happened that i know about from last week is, i
  unplugged everything this morning for a small Thunder shower.
  and the
  other day lucy the kitten jumped from a ledge onto the printer top,
  about 3'.
 
  Any ideas what to do next,. Could that landing have caused any
  problems.??
 
  I ran my Spyder I before i did the prints last Friday and all was
  well.
 
  This is frustrating.
 
 
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Re: Sorry, another Epson 2400 problem

2007-08-23 Thread David J Brooks
I tyhink, maybe that file he sent me screwed something up.

I rebooted and uncliked the black point box and reprinted on of the horse shots.

Looks a lot better.

Something with NO coulr management in the return file might have set
up flags in the epson.

I 'm just quess on that though

Sorry to bother.

Dave

On 8/23/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry, i did keep the original file, he just wanted a file to use for
 a web thing, and he sent me back his adjutments.

 I also went and printed several other horse photos from different
 days, and they came out dark aswell. The photos them selves are nice
 and crisp and sharpness is right were it should be.

 Maybe i'll re calibrate and try again.

 Its almost as if they are being printed in sRGB colour space but i
 have them assigned to Adobe 1998 rgb in the file and print previews
 etc.

 I'll try and re calibrate

 Dave

 On 8/23/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  So have you tried going back to your original reference file for the
  photo, with the embedded profile, and printing from that? The
  customer file was evidently stripped of any profile information,
  which means you need to profile it properly and readjust it for
  printing..
 
  If you are not keeping a reference file for work you sell, well, you
  ought to be... It's the only way to assure that you can reproduce
  exactly what you've done before.
 
  I keep a reference image file of a grayscale and macbeth color chart
  handy so I can proof the printer in case there is any question
  against prior print runs, like when I change ink carts or change
  monitor/printer configurations.
 
  G
 
 
  On Aug 23, 2007, at 10:38 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
 
   And thats when this started, from the customer file
  
   Dave
  
   On 8/23/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   PC XP home CS2.
  
   Calibrate monitor with Syder I.
   Adjust photo in PSCS2
  
   Print from Preview
   Colour Adobe rgb
   Let PS determine colours
   Set paper profile and relative colourmatic  and black point
  
   Print box is set up for paper etc.
   Advanced and turn off colour management
  
   Basically everything is the same as Saturday, but now its darker than
   the monitor.
  
   I can't believe this could do anything to anything, but i printed a
   file that was sent to me by a customer. My file i sold him and he
   wanted a 4x6 print.
  
   When i loaded it, there was no colour info in the file and when i
   went
   to print preview, all the settings were different, i had to reset
   everything
  
   Dave
  
   On 8/23/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On what system? What is your printing workflow? etc
  
   Photoshop often seems to lose the settings at the driver level the
   first time you go to the Print driver dialog from Print With
   Preview.
   You should always check them before making a print.
  
   Lightroom retains all the driver settings properly, ime.
  
   Godfrey
  
  
  
   On Aug 23, 2007, at 7:39 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
  
   Hi all.
  
   Last week my 2400 was working fine. This week its printing out
   dark.
   One print had an sRGB colour space look to it even though I'm
   printing
   in Rgb.
  
   For some reason, when i went to print this morning, all my
   settings in
   print preview were changed. I reset them and printed. Same results.
   I notice now, where i only had Adobe rgb 1998 as an option in the
   upper left drop down menu i know have an output option, that was
   never
   there before.
  
   I cleaned the nozzles and no effect.
  
   Only thing that has happened that i know about from last week is, i
   unplugged everything this morning for a small Thunder shower.
   and the
   other day lucy the kitten jumped from a ledge onto the printer top,
   about 3'.
  
   Any ideas what to do next,. Could that landing have caused any
   problems.??
  
   I ran my Spyder I before i did the prints last Friday and all was
   well.
  
   This is frustrating.
  
  
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Re: Sorry, another Epson 2400 problem

2007-08-23 Thread David J Brooks
PC XP home CS2.

Calibrate monitor with Syder I.
Adjust photo in PSCS2

Print from Preview
Colour Adobe rgb
Let PS determine colours
Set paper profile and relative colourmatic  and black point

Print box is set up for paper etc.
Advanced and turn of colour management

Basically everything is the same as Saturday, but now its darker than
the monitor.

I can't believe this could do anything to anything, but i printed a
file that was sent to me by a customer. My file i sold him and he
wanted a 4x6 print.

When i loaded it, there was no colour info in the file and when i went
to print preview, all the settings were different, i had to reset
everything

Dave

On 8/23/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On what system? What is your printing workflow? etc

 Photoshop often seems to lose the settings at the driver level the
 first time you go to the Print driver dialog from Print With Preview.
 You should always check them before making a print.

 Lightroom retains all the driver settings properly, ime.

 Godfrey



 On Aug 23, 2007, at 7:39 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

  Hi all.
 
  Last week my 2400 was working fine. This week its printing out dark.
  One print had an sRGB colour space look to it even though I'm printing
  in Rgb.
 
  For some reason, when i went to print this morning, all my settings in
  print preview were changed. I reset them and printed. Same results.
  I notice now, where i only had Adobe rgb 1998 as an option in the
  upper left drop down menu i know have an output option, that was never
  there before.
 
  I cleaned the nozzles and no effect.
 
  Only thing that has happened that i know about from last week is, i
  unplugged everything this morning for a small Thunder shower. and the
  other day lucy the kitten jumped from a ledge onto the printer top,
  about 3'.
 
  Any ideas what to do next,. Could that landing have caused any
  problems.??
 
  I ran my Spyder I before i did the prints last Friday and all was
  well.
 
  This is frustrating.


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