Re: Why i don't shoot weddings.
Hehe... That's always my ultimatum too. I can shoot if you promise I'm not the only one you rely on. Works wonders to set people's expectations. :-) Jostein 2008/3/8, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The Yashica-Mat camera is great for that use as it is almost completely quiet. One of the very few times I have been fooled to take pictures during a wedding (it was my brother) they didn´t want to be distracted by cameras during the ceremony, so I got a seat in front in the church and used my Yashica-Mat. Nobody noticed what I was doing and the pictures were OK (but they did notice our father who used his compact with automatic wind and rewind to take the last picture on his film and we all listened to the rewind for å couple of minuts. .-) The ME Super is also good for that kind of use. Anyway, I always refuse to take pictures if they don´t hire a real photographer as well... DagT Den 8. mars. 2008 kl. 18.22 skrev Jim Apilado: Back before I knew better, I took my Yashicamat camera to a wedding of a co-worker. I took pictures at the same time as the hired photographer was taking the formal photos at the altar. Managed to get 5 shots before he told me that I couldn't photograph. Turned out that the pro had equipment failure and nothing came out. My 5 photos were the only ones showing any part of the wedding. Jim A. On Mar 8, 2008, at 3:21 AM, David J Brooks wrote: Had a beer with a friend last night. They were at a relatives wedding last month, and the wife of a brother was asked to do the wedding photos. She has some sort of a non PS camera i'm lead to believe.:-) Anyway, he tells me last night, that NONE of the photos she took came out, Unknown if she shot film or digital, but i suspect film if it took this long to find out. As expected, they are pissed, and a family row is now in full swing. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I thought you had taken my spellin class.:-) Dave On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 10:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gawd, this keyoard sucks:-). Fill in the lanks. (I'm using my daughter's laptop.) -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Film is basically batch processed. In printing, some control is exercised, the amount of which varies in proportion to how much one pays. With digital, each frame is processed individually and prints or print files can e fine tuned. The last two weddings I shot were digital, and I was ale to roduce perfectly matched shots. The busiest and most expensive wedding photographers i know all shoot digital. Yes, there are a few promoting film as something special, but theyre few and far between. And, as I said in an earlier post, the photographer is at the mercy of the lab. With one lab after another failing, that's not a good place to e. Paul -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I photographed one wedding using a Canon D60 digital. Yes, it was great to be able to see the results on the display. No, it wasn't fun looking at the results on my computer and tweaking them to make me satisfied with the results. When I shot with film, I knew what I would get because I had done so many using the same techniques I had developed over 30 years. Did a wedding last September where the owner of the wedding site said her husband had gone back to using film because of the stress in having to look through hundreds of files and tweaking them. There was an article in a local photo magazine about a wedding photographer who claims he is different from other photographers shooting digitally because he uses film, a medium that his clients are no longer familiar with but who like his results. I'm photographing a wedding next weekend. My client is happy I am using film because she likes film results over digital. Jim A. I have the same question. Digital takes much of the stress out of wedding shooting, because the photographer has complete control. Not true with film. Paul -- Original message -- From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you mean that you shoot no film except at weddings, =or= that your wedding shoots are exclusively film? If the latter, why? Rick --- Jim Apilado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are a lot of amateur photographers who make the jump to professional wedding photographer. I've done dozens of weddings over the past 30 years. Still an amateur, and still shooting film ONLY at weddings. Have had lots of good food and good beer. Jim A. On Mar 8, 2008, at 6:28 AM, Rebekah wrote: ouch. I'd love to shoot a wedding, but not as the official photographer, more for my own enjoyment. That sure seems like a weighty responsibility! rg2 On 3/8/08, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had a beer with a friend last night. They were at a relatives wedding last month, and the wife of a brother was asked to do the wedding photos. She has some sort of a non PS camera i'm lead to believe.:-) Anyway, he tells me last night, that NONE of the photos she took came out, Unknown if she shot film or digital, but i suspect film if it took this long to find out. As expected, they are pissed, and a family row is now in full swing. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
Re: Why i don't shoot weddings.
I think she meant she'd like to shoot a wedding for fun as a guest. :) I've done it, always with the permission of the paid photographer, and it is fun when the pressure's off. On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Rebekah, I have to chuckle, you don't shoot weddings for enjoyment...that is for guests. I can say that after shooting a bunch, it does seem less stressful, or perhaps you are able to handle the stress much better. -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, March 8, 2008, 6:28:35 AM, you wrote: R ouch. I'd love to shoot a wedding, but not as the official R photographer, more for my own enjoyment. That sure seems like a R weighty responsibility! R rg2 R On 3/8/08, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had a beer with a friend last night. They were at a relatives wedding last month, and the wife of a brother was asked to do the wedding photos. She has some sort of a non PS camera i'm lead to believe.:-) Anyway, he tells me last night, that NONE of the photos she took came out, Unknown if she shot film or digital, but i suspect film if it took this long to find out. As expected, they are pissed, and a family row is now in full swing. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Why i don't shoot weddings.
Had a beer with a friend last night. They were at a relatives wedding last month, and the wife of a brother was asked to do the wedding photos. She has some sort of a non PS camera i'm lead to believe.:-) Anyway, he tells me last night, that NONE of the photos she took came out, Unknown if she shot film or digital, but i suspect film if it took this long to find out. As expected, they are pissed, and a family row is now in full swing. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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ouch. I'd love to shoot a wedding, but not as the official photographer, more for my own enjoyment. That sure seems like a weighty responsibility! rg2 On 3/8/08, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had a beer with a friend last night. They were at a relatives wedding last month, and the wife of a brother was asked to do the wedding photos. She has some sort of a non PS camera i'm lead to believe.:-) Anyway, he tells me last night, that NONE of the photos she took came out, Unknown if she shot film or digital, but i suspect film if it took this long to find out. As expected, they are pissed, and a family row is now in full swing. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Why i don't shoot weddings. Had a beer with a friend last night. They were at a relatives wedding last month, and the wife of a brother was asked to do the wedding photos. She has some sort of a non PS camera i'm lead to believe.:-) Anyway, he tells me last night, that NONE of the photos she took came out, Unknown if she shot film or digital, but i suspect film if it took this long to find out. As expected, they are pissed, and a family row is now in full swing. Good. Maybe next time they'll hire a photographer rather than Uncle Frank. Serves them right, and it's not fair to take it out on the person they got to do the pictures, when A) she isn't a professional, and b) they probably got exactly what they paid for. I don't shoot weddings anymore, as my temptaton at the last few was to use an Ouzi rather than a Pentax. But that not got anything to do with this. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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An Ouzi is what you get when you cross an Uzi with a bottle of Ouzo. --- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't shoot weddings anymore, as my temptaton at the last few was to use an Ouzi rather than a Pentax. But that not got anything to do with this. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: Rick Womer Subject: Re: Why i don't shoot weddings. An Ouzi is what you get when you cross an Uzi with a bottle of Ouzo. HAR William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Rebekah escribió: ouch. I'd love to shoot a wedding, but not as the official photographer, more for my own enjoyment. That sure seems like a weighty responsibility! I was once the official photographer at a wedding. Everything turned out well and everyone liked the photos, but I wouldn't do that again, too much stress. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Back before I knew better, I took my Yashicamat camera to a wedding of a co-worker. I took pictures at the same time as the hired photographer was taking the formal photos at the altar. Managed to get 5 shots before he told me that I couldn't photograph. Turned out that the pro had equipment failure and nothing came out. My 5 photos were the only ones showing any part of the wedding. Jim A. On Mar 8, 2008, at 3:21 AM, David J Brooks wrote: Had a beer with a friend last night. They were at a relatives wedding last month, and the wife of a brother was asked to do the wedding photos. She has some sort of a non PS camera i'm lead to believe.:-) Anyway, he tells me last night, that NONE of the photos she took came out, Unknown if she shot film or digital, but i suspect film if it took this long to find out. As expected, they are pissed, and a family row is now in full swing. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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There are a lot of amateur photographers who make the jump to professional wedding photographer. I've done dozens of weddings over the past 30 years. Still an amateur, and still shooting film ONLY at weddings. Have had lots of good food and good beer. Jim A. On Mar 8, 2008, at 6:28 AM, Rebekah wrote: ouch. I'd love to shoot a wedding, but not as the official photographer, more for my own enjoyment. That sure seems like a weighty responsibility! rg2 On 3/8/08, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had a beer with a friend last night. They were at a relatives wedding last month, and the wife of a brother was asked to do the wedding photos. She has some sort of a non PS camera i'm lead to believe.:-) Anyway, he tells me last night, that NONE of the photos she took came out, Unknown if she shot film or digital, but i suspect film if it took this long to find out. As expected, they are pissed, and a family row is now in full swing. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hello Rebekah, I have to chuckle, you don't shoot weddings for enjoyment...that is for guests. I can say that after shooting a bunch, it does seem less stressful, or perhaps you are able to handle the stress much better. -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, March 8, 2008, 6:28:35 AM, you wrote: R ouch. I'd love to shoot a wedding, but not as the official R photographer, more for my own enjoyment. That sure seems like a R weighty responsibility! R rg2 R On 3/8/08, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had a beer with a friend last night. They were at a relatives wedding last month, and the wife of a brother was asked to do the wedding photos. She has some sort of a non PS camera i'm lead to believe.:-) Anyway, he tells me last night, that NONE of the photos she took came out, Unknown if she shot film or digital, but i suspect film if it took this long to find out. As expected, they are pissed, and a family row is now in full swing. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I've done a half dozen or so over the years. It's much less stressful with digital than it was with film. Particularly if you bring a laptop or portable drive and back up your full cards. Paul On Mar 8, 2008, at 10:31 AM, Carlos Royo wrote: Rebekah escribió: ouch. I'd love to shoot a wedding, but not as the official photographer, more for my own enjoyment. That sure seems like a weighty responsibility! I was once the official photographer at a wedding. Everything turned out well and everyone liked the photos, but I wouldn't do that again, too much stress. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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William Robb wrote: [...] I don't shoot weddings anymore, as my temptaton at the last few was to use an Ouzi rather than a Pentax. But that not got anything to do with this. William Robb An Ouzi? If you meant Ouzo, yeah, you're right. it's better to drink yourself to oblivion than shoot your self with an Uzi. On the other hand, an Ouzo drinker armed with an Uzi is *surely* one to avoid! g keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The Yashica-Mat camera is great for that use as it is almost completely quiet. One of the very few times I have been fooled to take pictures during a wedding (it was my brother) they didn´t want to be distracted by cameras during the ceremony, so I got a seat in front in the church and used my Yashica-Mat. Nobody noticed what I was doing and the pictures were OK (but they did notice our father who used his compact with automatic wind and rewind to take the last picture on his film and we all listened to the rewind for å couple of minuts. .-) The ME Super is also good for that kind of use. Anyway, I always refuse to take pictures if they don´t hire a real photographer as well... DagT Den 8. mars. 2008 kl. 18.22 skrev Jim Apilado: Back before I knew better, I took my Yashicamat camera to a wedding of a co-worker. I took pictures at the same time as the hired photographer was taking the formal photos at the altar. Managed to get 5 shots before he told me that I couldn't photograph. Turned out that the pro had equipment failure and nothing came out. My 5 photos were the only ones showing any part of the wedding. Jim A. On Mar 8, 2008, at 3:21 AM, David J Brooks wrote: Had a beer with a friend last night. They were at a relatives wedding last month, and the wife of a brother was asked to do the wedding photos. She has some sort of a non PS camera i'm lead to believe.:-) Anyway, he tells me last night, that NONE of the photos she took came out, Unknown if she shot film or digital, but i suspect film if it took this long to find out. As expected, they are pissed, and a family row is now in full swing. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Heh, my brother-in-law loves the photos I took at his wedding with my seagull. The real photographers pictures were just passable. Evan On Mar 8, 2008, at 12:22 PM, Jim Apilado wrote: Back before I knew better, I took my Yashicamat camera to a wedding of a co-worker. I took pictures at the same time as the hired photographer was taking the formal photos at the altar. Managed to get 5 shots before he told me that I couldn't photograph. Turned out that the pro had equipment failure and nothing came out. My 5 photos were the only ones showing any part of the wedding. Jim A. On Mar 8, 2008, at 3:21 AM, David J Brooks wrote: PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Evan Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heh, my brother-in-law loves the photos I took at his wedding with my seagull. The real photographers pictures were just passable. Thats because you had a birds eye view. Dave Evan On Mar 8, 2008, at 12:22 PM, Jim Apilado wrote: Back before I knew better, I took my Yashicamat camera to a wedding of a co-worker. I took pictures at the same time as the hired photographer was taking the formal photos at the altar. Managed to get 5 shots before he told me that I couldn't photograph. Turned out that the pro had equipment failure and nothing came out. My 5 photos were the only ones showing any part of the wedding. Jim A. On Mar 8, 2008, at 3:21 AM, David J Brooks wrote: PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thats because you had a birds eye view. It's true, I'm sure the pictures were im-peck-able ;) rg2 On 3/8/08, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Evan Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heh, my brother-in-law loves the photos I took at his wedding with my seagull. The real photographers pictures were just passable. Thats because you had a birds eye view. Dave Evan On Mar 8, 2008, at 12:22 PM, Jim Apilado wrote: Back before I knew better, I took my Yashicamat camera to a wedding of a co-worker. I took pictures at the same time as the hired photographer was taking the formal photos at the altar. Managed to get 5 shots before he told me that I couldn't photograph. Turned out that the pro had equipment failure and nothing came out. My 5 photos were the only ones showing any part of the wedding. Jim A. On Mar 8, 2008, at 3:21 AM, David J Brooks wrote: PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Do you mean that you shoot no film except at weddings, =or= that your wedding shoots are exclusively film? If the latter, why? Rick --- Jim Apilado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are a lot of amateur photographers who make the jump to professional wedding photographer. I've done dozens of weddings over the past 30 years. Still an amateur, and still shooting film ONLY at weddings. Have had lots of good food and good beer. Jim A. On Mar 8, 2008, at 6:28 AM, Rebekah wrote: ouch. I'd love to shoot a wedding, but not as the official photographer, more for my own enjoyment. That sure seems like a weighty responsibility! rg2 On 3/8/08, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had a beer with a friend last night. They were at a relatives wedding last month, and the wife of a brother was asked to do the wedding photos. She has some sort of a non PS camera i'm lead to believe.:-) Anyway, he tells me last night, that NONE of the photos she took came out, Unknown if she shot film or digital, but i suspect film if it took this long to find out. As expected, they are pissed, and a family row is now in full swing. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I have the same question. Digital takes much of the stress out of wedding shooting, because the photographer has complete control. Not true with film. Paul -- Original message -- From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you mean that you shoot no film except at weddings, =or= that your wedding shoots are exclusively film? If the latter, why? Rick --- Jim Apilado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are a lot of amateur photographers who make the jump to professional wedding photographer. I've done dozens of weddings over the past 30 years. Still an amateur, and still shooting film ONLY at weddings. Have had lots of good food and good beer. Jim A. On Mar 8, 2008, at 6:28 AM, Rebekah wrote: ouch. I'd love to shoot a wedding, but not as the official photographer, more for my own enjoyment. That sure seems like a weighty responsibility! rg2 On 3/8/08, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had a beer with a friend last night. They were at a relatives wedding last month, and the wife of a brother was asked to do the wedding photos. She has some sort of a non PS camera i'm lead to believe.:-) Anyway, he tells me last night, that NONE of the photos she took came out, Unknown if she shot film or digital, but i suspect film if it took this long to find out. As expected, they are pissed, and a family row is now in full swing. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Why i don't shoot weddings. I have the same question. Digital takes much of the stress out of wedding shooting, because the photographer has complete control. Not true with film. Or it can add to the stress because you know prior to the end of the day how many of the shots you have are crap. I've done two weddings on digital, and I found them no less stressful than the thousand or so that I've done on film. The only thing that digital improved for me was not worrying about running out of film while the bride was coming up the aisle. To be fair, when I shot film, I had complete control over the entire process, but if you are worrying that much about your lab buggering things up, you need to find a lab you can trust. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I photographed one wedding using a Canon D60 digital. Yes, it was great to be able to see the results on the display. No, it wasn't fun looking at the results on my computer and tweaking them to make me satisfied with the results. When I shot with film, I knew what I would get because I had done so many using the same techniques I had developed over 30 years. Did a wedding last September where the owner of the wedding site said her husband had gone back to using film because of the stress in having to look through hundreds of files and tweaking them. There was an article in a local photo magazine about a wedding photographer who claims he is different from other photographers shooting digitally because he uses film, a medium that his clients are no longer familiar with but who like his results. I'm photographing a wedding next weekend. My client is happy I am using film because she likes film results over digital. Jim A. I have the same question. Digital takes much of the stress out of wedding shooting, because the photographer has complete control. Not true with film. Paul -- Original message -- From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you mean that you shoot no film except at weddings, =or= that your wedding shoots are exclusively film? If the latter, why? Rick --- Jim Apilado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are a lot of amateur photographers who make the jump to professional wedding photographer. I've done dozens of weddings over the past 30 years. Still an amateur, and still shooting film ONLY at weddings. Have had lots of good food and good beer. Jim A. On Mar 8, 2008, at 6:28 AM, Rebekah wrote: ouch. I'd love to shoot a wedding, but not as the official photographer, more for my own enjoyment. That sure seems like a weighty responsibility! rg2 On 3/8/08, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had a beer with a friend last night. They were at a relatives wedding last month, and the wife of a brother was asked to do the wedding photos. She has some sort of a non PS camera i'm lead to believe.:-) Anyway, he tells me last night, that NONE of the photos she took came out, Unknown if she shot film or digital, but i suspect film if it took this long to find out. As expected, they are pissed, and a family row is now in full swing. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Film is basically batch processed. In printing, some control is exercised, the amount of which varies in proportion to how much one pays. With digital, each frame is processed individually and prints or print files can e fine tuned. The last two weddings I shot were digital, and I was ale to roduce perfectly matched shots. The busiest and most expensive wedding photographers i know all shoot digital. Yes, there are a few promoting film as something special, but theyre few and far between. And, as I said in an earlier post, the photographer is at the mercy of the lab. With one lab after another failing, that's not a good place to e. Paul -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I photographed one wedding using a Canon D60 digital. Yes, it was great to be able to see the results on the display. No, it wasn't fun looking at the results on my computer and tweaking them to make me satisfied with the results. When I shot with film, I knew what I would get because I had done so many using the same techniques I had developed over 30 years. Did a wedding last September where the owner of the wedding site said her husband had gone back to using film because of the stress in having to look through hundreds of files and tweaking them. There was an article in a local photo magazine about a wedding photographer who claims he is different from other photographers shooting digitally because he uses film, a medium that his clients are no longer familiar with but who like his results. I'm photographing a wedding next weekend. My client is happy I am using film because she likes film results over digital. Jim A. I have the same question. Digital takes much of the stress out of wedding shooting, because the photographer has complete control. Not true with film. Paul -- Original message -- From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you mean that you shoot no film except at weddings, =or= that your wedding shoots are exclusively film? If the latter, why? Rick --- Jim Apilado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are a lot of amateur photographers who make the jump to professional wedding photographer. I've done dozens of weddings over the past 30 years. Still an amateur, and still shooting film ONLY at weddings. Have had lots of good food and good beer. Jim A. On Mar 8, 2008, at 6:28 AM, Rebekah wrote: ouch. I'd love to shoot a wedding, but not as the official photographer, more for my own enjoyment. That sure seems like a weighty responsibility! rg2 On 3/8/08, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had a beer with a friend last night. They were at a relatives wedding last month, and the wife of a brother was asked to do the wedding photos. She has some sort of a non PS camera i'm lead to believe.:-) Anyway, he tells me last night, that NONE of the photos she took came out, Unknown if she shot film or digital, but i suspect film if it took this long to find out. As expected, they are pissed, and a family row is now in full swing. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
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I was wondering whether it was the keyboard or the downstairs bar and Elvis's company... ;-) --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gawd, this keyoard sucks:-). Fill in the lanks. (I'm using my daughter's laptop.) -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Film is basically batch processed. In printing, some control is exercised, the amount of which varies in proportion to how much one pays. With digital, each frame is processed individually and prints or print files can e fine tuned. The last two weddings I shot were digital, and I was ale to roduce perfectly matched shots. The busiest and most expensive wedding photographers i know all shoot digital. Yes, there are a few promoting film as something special, but theyre few and far between. And, as I said in an earlier post, the photographer is at the mercy of the lab. With one lab after another failing, that's not a good place to e. Paul -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I photographed one wedding using a Canon D60 digital. Yes, it was great to be able to see the results on the display. No, it wasn't fun looking at the results on my computer and tweaking them to make me satisfied with the results. When I shot with film, I knew what I would get because I had done so many using the same techniques I had developed over 30 years. Did a wedding last September where the owner of the wedding site said her husband had gone back to using film because of the stress in having to look through hundreds of files and tweaking them. There was an article in a local photo magazine about a wedding photographer who claims he is different from other photographers shooting digitally because he uses film, a medium that his clients are no longer familiar with but who like his results. I'm photographing a wedding next weekend. My client is happy I am using film because she likes film results over digital. Jim A. I have the same question. Digital takes much of the stress out of wedding shooting, because the photographer has complete control. Not true with film. Paul -- Original message -- From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you mean that you shoot no film except at weddings, =or= that your wedding shoots are exclusively film? If the latter, why? Rick --- Jim Apilado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are a lot of amateur photographers who make the jump to professional wedding photographer. I've done dozens of weddings over the past 30 years. Still an amateur, and still shooting film ONLY at weddings. Have had lots of good food and good beer. Jim A. On Mar 8, 2008, at 6:28 AM, Rebekah wrote: ouch. I'd love to shoot a wedding, but not as the official photographer, more for my own enjoyment. That sure seems like a weighty responsibility! rg2 On 3/8/08, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had a beer with a friend last night. They were at a relatives wedding last month, and the wife of a brother was asked to do the wedding photos. She has some sort of a non PS camera i'm lead to believe.:-) Anyway, he tells me last night, that NONE of the photos she took came out, Unknown if she shot film or digital, but i suspect film if it took this long to find out. As expected, they are pissed, and a family row is now in full swing. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above
Re: Why i don't shoot weddings.
Gawd, this keyoard sucks:-). Fill in the lanks. (I'm using my daughter's laptop.) -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Film is basically batch processed. In printing, some control is exercised, the amount of which varies in proportion to how much one pays. With digital, each frame is processed individually and prints or print files can e fine tuned. The last two weddings I shot were digital, and I was ale to roduce perfectly matched shots. The busiest and most expensive wedding photographers i know all shoot digital. Yes, there are a few promoting film as something special, but theyre few and far between. And, as I said in an earlier post, the photographer is at the mercy of the lab. With one lab after another failing, that's not a good place to e. Paul -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I photographed one wedding using a Canon D60 digital. Yes, it was great to be able to see the results on the display. No, it wasn't fun looking at the results on my computer and tweaking them to make me satisfied with the results. When I shot with film, I knew what I would get because I had done so many using the same techniques I had developed over 30 years. Did a wedding last September where the owner of the wedding site said her husband had gone back to using film because of the stress in having to look through hundreds of files and tweaking them. There was an article in a local photo magazine about a wedding photographer who claims he is different from other photographers shooting digitally because he uses film, a medium that his clients are no longer familiar with but who like his results. I'm photographing a wedding next weekend. My client is happy I am using film because she likes film results over digital. Jim A. I have the same question. Digital takes much of the stress out of wedding shooting, because the photographer has complete control. Not true with film. Paul -- Original message -- From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you mean that you shoot no film except at weddings, =or= that your wedding shoots are exclusively film? If the latter, why? Rick --- Jim Apilado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are a lot of amateur photographers who make the jump to professional wedding photographer. I've done dozens of weddings over the past 30 years. Still an amateur, and still shooting film ONLY at weddings. Have had lots of good food and good beer. Jim A. On Mar 8, 2008, at 6:28 AM, Rebekah wrote: ouch. I'd love to shoot a wedding, but not as the official photographer, more for my own enjoyment. That sure seems like a weighty responsibility! rg2 On 3/8/08, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had a beer with a friend last night. They were at a relatives wedding last month, and the wife of a brother was asked to do the wedding photos. She has some sort of a non PS camera i'm lead to believe.:-) Anyway, he tells me last night, that NONE of the photos she took came out, Unknown if she shot film or digital, but i suspect film if it took this long to find out. As expected, they are pissed, and a family row is now in full swing. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Re: Why i don't shoot weddings.
I don't photograph weddings very often. If my favorite lab were to go out of business than I probably will just quit doing them. I do teach a wedding photography class through a community college. Everyone in my class last spring shoot digital. They took the class because they were not sure what types of pictures they should take, or how to pose them. They are more comfortable shooting digital, but need some pointers that they feel is better acquired by talking to a veteran wedding photographer. Jim A. Film is basically batch processed. In printing, some control is exercised, the amount of which varies in proportion to how much one pays. With digital, each frame is processed individually and prints or print files can e fine tuned. The last two weddings I shot were digital, and I was ale to roduce perfectly matched shots. The busiest and most expensive wedding photographers i know all shoot digital. Yes, there are a few promoting film as something special, but theyre few and far between. And, as I said in an earlier post, the photographer is at the mercy of the lab. With one lab after another failing, that's not a good place to e. Paul -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I photographed one wedding using a Canon D60 digital. Yes, it was great to be able to see the results on the display. No, it wasn't fun looking at the results on my computer and tweaking them to make me satisfied with the results. When I shot with film, I knew what I would get because I had done so many using the same techniques I had developed over 30 years. Did a wedding last September where the owner of the wedding site said her husband had gone back to using film because of the stress in having to look through hundreds of files and tweaking them. There was an article in a local photo magazine about a wedding photographer who claims he is different from other photographers shooting digitally because he uses film, a medium that his clients are no longer familiar with but who like his results. I'm photographing a wedding next weekend. My client is happy I am using film because she likes film results over digital. Jim A. I have the same question. Digital takes much of the stress out of wedding shooting, because the photographer has complete control. Not true with film. Paul -- Original message -- From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you mean that you shoot no film except at weddings, =or= that your wedding shoots are exclusively film? If the latter, why? Rick --- Jim Apilado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are a lot of amateur photographers who make the jump to professional wedding photographer. I've done dozens of weddings over the past 30 years. Still an amateur, and still shooting film ONLY at weddings. Have had lots of good food and good beer. Jim A. On Mar 8, 2008, at 6:28 AM, Rebekah wrote: ouch. I'd love to shoot a wedding, but not as the official photographer, more for my own enjoyment. That sure seems like a weighty responsibility! rg2 On 3/8/08, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had a beer with a friend last night. They were at a relatives wedding last month, and the wife of a brother was asked to do the wedding photos. She has some sort of a non PS camera i'm lead to believe.:-) Anyway, he tells me last night, that NONE of the photos she took came out, Unknown if she shot film or digital, but i suspect film if it took this long to find out. As expected, they are pissed, and a family row is now in full swing. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Re: Why i don't shoot weddings.
I don't shoot weddings because I don't like weddings. No other reason is needed. That said, I would never shoot a wedding for a friend or relative. Ever. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
