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Developing film is easy. You WILL get results in any case :) To get some quality, then you need practice. My recipe: 1) go into toilet, put tank on WC, swich off all lights nearby. get towel to seal remaining light leaks 2) load film (i mostly develop 120 film), sometimes it takes long, if film curls a lot 3) go to bathroom, measure +20C water by mixing cold+hot, fill 2-3 liters of water 4) fill 330ml water in glas jar, mix with 3ml rodinal (1:100), pour into tank, mix 1 minute 5) find some marker and write down start time, semi-stand process up to 60 minutes (+10 minutes is OK), go and watch your favorite TV programm, sometimes mix if you do not forget :) 6) discard rodinal, wash 2-3 times with water 7) take bottle with fixer, pour in, and wait 5 minutes, mixing sometimes, then open tank lid, look if film is still milky wait another 2-5 minutes. do not forget to put back fixer into bottle, do not discard 8) mess with lot of tap water for some 10-15 minutes, to wash all chemicals 9) get bottle with distilled water as last bath for film 10) hang it for drying, wondering what you have shot, and what went wrong Gasha paul stenquist wrote: On Oct 3, 2010, at 11:54 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: I found the opposite to be true. The bag's fabric always got in the way a bit, and while I could load reels in the bag, I found it easier in the darkroom. Perhaps because I learned to load reels by practicing in the light with my eyes closed. I used an old roll of junk film. If I had trouble loading it, I'd open my eyes to see what went wrong. After I became proficient at doing it with my eyes closed, I went into the darkroom with exposed film and had no problems. That was fifty years ago. To this day, I still load reels with my eyes closed, even in the darkroom or the changing bag. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Your question was for developing film (not making prints) so I'm going to suggest a changing bag. You don't even need a darkroom to develop film if you have a daylight developing tank (which they ALL are these days) and a changing bag. Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I got a changing bag that actually expanded itself like a tent. It was still a pain in the butt. I have a windowless bathroom downstairs that I use for loading film. Jeffery On Oct 4, 2010, at 6:01 AM, paul stenquist wrote: On Oct 3, 2010, at 11:54 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: If you're only developing film you don't need a darkroom until you start printing. Get a fairly large changing bag, I think they still make them. You can load the film from the cassette to a light-tight tank inside the changing bag and do all the developing/fixing/washing in the room with the lights on. I always found it easier to load the film onto the reels and into the tank with a bag compared to doing it in a darkroom. Must have something to do with being able to see where my hands were. I found the opposite to be true. The bag's fabric always got in the way a bit, and while I could load reels in the bag, I found it easier in the darkroom. Perhaps because I learned to load reels by practicing in the light with my eyes closed. I used an old roll of junk film. If I had trouble loading it, I'd open my eyes to see what went wrong. After I became proficient at doing it with my eyes closed, I went into the darkroom with exposed film and had no problems. That was fifty years ago. To this day, I still load reels with my eyes closed, even in the darkroom or the changing bag. Paul -p On 10/3/2010 7:29 PM, Nick Wright wrote: JCO, I won't be printing for now. I have absolutely no space for a real darkroom. We're living in a 30-foot camper while we tear down and rebuild our house (but I'm definitely making space for a darkroom in the new house), so safelights etc aren't needed at this point. I'll just have to be happy scanning my negs. Been poking around and found some info that indicates one roll of film takes 300ml of solution. But it seemed to me they were talking about the plastic paterson tanks. Will a single roll in a stainless tank take that much solution? Jeffery, thanks for mentioning the timer, can't believe I forgot that. Also I prefer Kodak T-Max developer and Ilford's Rapid Fix, but thanks for the suggestions. On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: If you're anything like me, you'll need a first aid kit that includes eyewash and some manner of emetic. -- Walt On 10/3/2010 6:44 PM, Nick Wright wrote: I'm preparing a list of everything I need in order to develop my own black and white film. Seeing as its been quite a number of years since I've done this I thought I'd run it by you all to see if I've got it all down. Tank Reels mixing paddles thermometer two graduates (one for developer, one for fixer; as I will only mix what is needed for the batch I'm working on) ... what size do you all think I should get for these. If I'm only ever going to do two rolls of film at a time, will a 150ml grad be enough or should I go for the 300ml? obviously developer and fixer. photoflo and squeege, film clips. what am I forgetting? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.856 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3174 - Release Date: 10/03/10 01:34:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Oct 3, 2010, at 11:54 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: If you're only developing film you don't need a darkroom until you start printing. Get a fairly large changing bag, I think they still make them. You can load the film from the cassette to a light-tight tank inside the changing bag and do all the developing/fixing/washing in the room with the lights on. I always found it easier to load the film onto the reels and into the tank with a bag compared to doing it in a darkroom. Must have something to do with being able to see where my hands were. I found the opposite to be true. The bag's fabric always got in the way a bit, and while I could load reels in the bag, I found it easier in the darkroom. Perhaps because I learned to load reels by practicing in the light with my eyes closed. I used an old roll of junk film. If I had trouble loading it, I'd open my eyes to see what went wrong. After I became proficient at doing it with my eyes closed, I went into the darkroom with exposed film and had no problems. That was fifty years ago. To this day, I still load reels with my eyes closed, even in the darkroom or the changing bag. Paul -p On 10/3/2010 7:29 PM, Nick Wright wrote: JCO, I won't be printing for now. I have absolutely no space for a real darkroom. We're living in a 30-foot camper while we tear down and rebuild our house (but I'm definitely making space for a darkroom in the new house), so safelights etc aren't needed at this point. I'll just have to be happy scanning my negs. Been poking around and found some info that indicates one roll of film takes 300ml of solution. But it seemed to me they were talking about the plastic paterson tanks. Will a single roll in a stainless tank take that much solution? Jeffery, thanks for mentioning the timer, can't believe I forgot that. Also I prefer Kodak T-Max developer and Ilford's Rapid Fix, but thanks for the suggestions. On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: If you're anything like me, you'll need a first aid kit that includes eyewash and some manner of emetic. -- Walt On 10/3/2010 6:44 PM, Nick Wright wrote: I'm preparing a list of everything I need in order to develop my own black and white film. Seeing as its been quite a number of years since I've done this I thought I'd run it by you all to see if I've got it all down. Tank Reels mixing paddles thermometer two graduates (one for developer, one for fixer; as I will only mix what is needed for the batch I'm working on) ... what size do you all think I should get for these. If I'm only ever going to do two rolls of film at a time, will a 150ml grad be enough or should I go for the 300ml? obviously developer and fixer. photoflo and squeege, film clips. what am I forgetting? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.856 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3174 - Release Date: 10/03/10 01:34:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Nick Wright JCO, I won't be printing for now. I have absolutely no space for a real darkroom. We're living in a 30-foot camper while we tear down and rebuild our house (but I'm definitely making space for a darkroom in the new house), so safelights etc aren't needed at this point. I'll just have to be happy scanning my negs. In that case, you need a dark bag/box for loading your film into the reels and getting the reels into the tanks. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'm preparing a list of everything I need in order to develop my own black and white film. Seeing as its been quite a number of years since I've done this I thought I'd run it by you all to see if I've got it all down. Tank Reels mixing paddles thermometer two graduates (one for developer, one for fixer; as I will only mix what is needed for the batch I'm working on) ... what size do you all think I should get for these. If I'm only ever going to do two rolls of film at a time, will a 150ml grad be enough or should I go for the 300ml? obviously developer and fixer. photoflo and squeege, film clips. what am I forgetting? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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enlarger, timer, safelight -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Join the CD PLAYER DISC Discussions : http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Nick Wright Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 7:44 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: darkroom wish list I'm preparing a list of everything I need in order to develop my own black and white film. Seeing as its been quite a number of years since I've done this I thought I'd run it by you all to see if I've got it all down. Tank Reels mixing paddles thermometer two graduates (one for developer, one for fixer; as I will only mix what is needed for the batch I'm working on) ... what size do you all think I should get for these. If I'm only ever going to do two rolls of film at a time, will a 150ml grad be enough or should I go for the 300ml? obviously developer and fixer. photoflo and squeege, film clips. what am I forgetting? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Precysol develop and archival fix from photoforumulary! Or PMK Pyro. If you do this or other 1-shot developers from concentrate, get some syringes for measuring the stuff. They sell them at the local drug store (for dispensing medicine to infants). Plastic sleeve pages for the negatives. Stainless steel clips (some weighted with lead) for hanging the film in the bathroom. I don't do the squeege. And I use photoflo to prevent water spots. Are you scanning the negs or using an enlarger? Whichever, an antistatic dust brush is important. I have some tests of different films and developers on my blog. http://400tx.blogspot.com/ Jeffery On Oct 3, 2010, at 6:44 PM, Nick Wright wrote: I'm preparing a list of everything I need in order to develop my own black and white film. Seeing as its been quite a number of years since I've done this I thought I'd run it by you all to see if I've got it all down. Tank Reels mixing paddles thermometer two graduates (one for developer, one for fixer; as I will only mix what is needed for the batch I'm working on) ... what size do you all think I should get for these. If I'm only ever going to do two rolls of film at a time, will a 150ml grad be enough or should I go for the 300ml? obviously developer and fixer. photoflo and squeege, film clips. what am I forgetting? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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A small statue of Ansel Adams and a pinch of incense. -Original Message- From: Nick Wright nickwright1...@gmail.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 18:44:04 To: pdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: darkroom wish list I'm preparing a list of everything I need in order to develop my own black and white film. Seeing as its been quite a number of years since I've done this I thought I'd run it by you all to see if I've got it all down. Tank Reels mixing paddles thermometer two graduates (one for developer, one for fixer; as I will only mix what is needed for the batch I'm working on) ... what size do you all think I should get for these. If I'm only ever going to do two rolls of film at a time, will a 150ml grad be enough or should I go for the 300ml? obviously developer and fixer. photoflo and squeege, film clips. what am I forgetting? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I forgot to mention - a stopwatch or digital kitchen timer (about $3 at WalMart). A couple of 1-quart mason jars for setting up the developer and fixer. Some kitchen funnels. Am I forgetting anything? Jeffery On Oct 3, 2010, at 6:44 PM, Nick Wright wrote: I'm preparing a list of everything I need in order to develop my own black and white film. Seeing as its been quite a number of years since I've done this I thought I'd run it by you all to see if I've got it all down. Tank Reels mixing paddles thermometer two graduates (one for developer, one for fixer; as I will only mix what is needed for the batch I'm working on) ... what size do you all think I should get for these. If I'm only ever going to do two rolls of film at a time, will a 150ml grad be enough or should I go for the 300ml? obviously developer and fixer. photoflo and squeege, film clips. what am I forgetting? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You need to bookmark www.digitaltruth.com On Oct 3, 2010, at 6:44 PM, Nick Wright wrote: I'm preparing a list of everything I need in order to develop my own black and white film. Seeing as its been quite a number of years since I've done this I thought I'd run it by you all to see if I've got it all down. Tank Reels mixing paddles thermometer two graduates (one for developer, one for fixer; as I will only mix what is needed for the batch I'm working on) ... what size do you all think I should get for these. If I'm only ever going to do two rolls of film at a time, will a 150ml grad be enough or should I go for the 300ml? obviously developer and fixer. photoflo and squeege, film clips. what am I forgetting? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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If you're anything like me, you'll need a first aid kit that includes eyewash and some manner of emetic. -- Walt On 10/3/2010 6:44 PM, Nick Wright wrote: I'm preparing a list of everything I need in order to develop my own black and white film. Seeing as its been quite a number of years since I've done this I thought I'd run it by you all to see if I've got it all down. Tank Reels mixing paddles thermometer two graduates (one for developer, one for fixer; as I will only mix what is needed for the batch I'm working on) ... what size do you all think I should get for these. If I'm only ever going to do two rolls of film at a time, will a 150ml grad be enough or should I go for the 300ml? obviously developer and fixer. photoflo and squeege, film clips. what am I forgetting? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Walter, eyewash and emetic? Dare I ask why you're drinking the stuff and putting it in your eyes? JCO, I won't be printing for now. I have absolutely no space for a real darkroom. We're living in a 30-foot camper while we tear down and rebuild our house (but I'm definitely making space for a darkroom in the new house), so safelights etc aren't needed at this point. I'll just have to be happy scanning my negs. Been poking around and found some info that indicates one roll of film takes 300ml of solution. But it seemed to me they were talking about the plastic paterson tanks. Will a single roll in a stainless tank take that much solution? Jeffery, thanks for mentioning the timer, can't believe I forgot that. Also I prefer Kodak T-Max developer and Ilford's Rapid Fix, but thanks for the suggestions. On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: If you're anything like me, you'll need a first aid kit that includes eyewash and some manner of emetic. -- Walt On 10/3/2010 6:44 PM, Nick Wright wrote: I'm preparing a list of everything I need in order to develop my own black and white film. Seeing as its been quite a number of years since I've done this I thought I'd run it by you all to see if I've got it all down. Tank Reels mixing paddles thermometer two graduates (one for developer, one for fixer; as I will only mix what is needed for the batch I'm working on) ... what size do you all think I should get for these. If I'm only ever going to do two rolls of film at a time, will a 150ml grad be enough or should I go for the 300ml? obviously developer and fixer. photoflo and squeege, film clips. what am I forgetting? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well, you see ... I wouldn't have the foggiest notion of what I was doing if someone were to put me in a darkroom. Also, I'm not right. Maybe someday I'll learn. As of now, the extent of my experience in developing and processing film amounts to be yelled at by my big brother for opening the utility room door when I was a kid. -- Walt On 10/3/2010 7:29 PM, Nick Wright wrote: Walter, eyewash and emetic? Dare I ask why you're drinking the stuff and putting it in your eyes? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Walt, you let the dark out? ;-) ~nick On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Well, you see ... I wouldn't have the foggiest notion of what I was doing if someone were to put me in a darkroom. Also, I'm not right. Maybe someday I'll learn. As of now, the extent of my experience in developing and processing film amounts to be yelled at by my big brother for opening the utility room door when I was a kid. -- Walt On 10/3/2010 7:29 PM, Nick Wright wrote: Walter, eyewash and emetic? Dare I ask why you're drinking the stuff and putting it in your eyes? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You can avoid that if you wear a hazmat suit. On 10/3/2010 8:11 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: If you're anything like me, you'll need a first aid kit that includes eyewash and some manner of emetic. -- Walt On 10/3/2010 6:44 PM, Nick Wright wrote: I'm preparing a list of everything I need in order to develop my own black and white film. Seeing as its been quite a number of years since I've done this I thought I'd run it by you all to see if I've got it all down. Tank Reels mixing paddles thermometer two graduates (one for developer, one for fixer; as I will only mix what is needed for the batch I'm working on) ... what size do you all think I should get for these. If I'm only ever going to do two rolls of film at a time, will a 150ml grad be enough or should I go for the 300ml? obviously developer and fixer. photoflo and squeege, film clips. what am I forgetting? -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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If you're only developing film you don't need a darkroom until you start printing. Get a fairly large changing bag, I think they still make them. You can load the film from the cassette to a light-tight tank inside the changing bag and do all the developing/fixing/washing in the room with the lights on. I always found it easier to load the film onto the reels and into the tank with a bag compared to doing it in a darkroom. Must have something to do with being able to see where my hands were. -p On 10/3/2010 7:29 PM, Nick Wright wrote: JCO, I won't be printing for now. I have absolutely no space for a real darkroom. We're living in a 30-foot camper while we tear down and rebuild our house (but I'm definitely making space for a darkroom in the new house), so safelights etc aren't needed at this point. I'll just have to be happy scanning my negs. Been poking around and found some info that indicates one roll of film takes 300ml of solution. But it seemed to me they were talking about the plastic paterson tanks. Will a single roll in a stainless tank take that much solution? Jeffery, thanks for mentioning the timer, can't believe I forgot that. Also I prefer Kodak T-Max developer and Ilford's Rapid Fix, but thanks for the suggestions. On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: If you're anything like me, you'll need a first aid kit that includes eyewash and some manner of emetic. -- Walt On 10/3/2010 6:44 PM, Nick Wright wrote: I'm preparing a list of everything I need in order to develop my own black and white film. Seeing as its been quite a number of years since I've done this I thought I'd run it by you all to see if I've got it all down. Tank Reels mixing paddles thermometer two graduates (one for developer, one for fixer; as I will only mix what is needed for the batch I'm working on) ... what size do you all think I should get for these. If I'm only ever going to do two rolls of film at a time, will a 150ml grad be enough or should I go for the 300ml? obviously developer and fixer. photoflo and squeege, film clips. what am I forgetting? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.856 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3174 - Release Date: 10/03/10 01:34:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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My plan exactly. Adorama does still sell changing bags in two different sizes. Not much money. Great for the person who wants to develop film but has no dark places to do it ... like me! In the past I've used both darkrooms and changing bags. I'm comfortable either way. Now doing color in dip and dunk tanks where you have to spend the entire development cycle in the dark? That I never cared for. ~nick On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Paul Sorenson allarou...@earthlink.net wrote: If you're only developing film you don't need a darkroom until you start printing. Get a fairly large changing bag, I think they still make them. You can load the film from the cassette to a light-tight tank inside the changing bag and do all the developing/fixing/washing in the room with the lights on. I always found it easier to load the film onto the reels and into the tank with a bag compared to doing it in a darkroom. Must have something to do with being able to see where my hands were. -p On 10/3/2010 7:29 PM, Nick Wright wrote: JCO, I won't be printing for now. I have absolutely no space for a real darkroom. We're living in a 30-foot camper while we tear down and rebuild our house (but I'm definitely making space for a darkroom in the new house), so safelights etc aren't needed at this point. I'll just have to be happy scanning my negs. Been poking around and found some info that indicates one roll of film takes 300ml of solution. But it seemed to me they were talking about the plastic paterson tanks. Will a single roll in a stainless tank take that much solution? Jeffery, thanks for mentioning the timer, can't believe I forgot that. Also I prefer Kodak T-Max developer and Ilford's Rapid Fix, but thanks for the suggestions. On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: If you're anything like me, you'll need a first aid kit that includes eyewash and some manner of emetic. -- Walt On 10/3/2010 6:44 PM, Nick Wright wrote: I'm preparing a list of everything I need in order to develop my own black and white film. Seeing as its been quite a number of years since I've done this I thought I'd run it by you all to see if I've got it all down. Tank Reels mixing paddles thermometer two graduates (one for developer, one for fixer; as I will only mix what is needed for the batch I'm working on) ... what size do you all think I should get for these. If I'm only ever going to do two rolls of film at a time, will a 150ml grad be enough or should I go for the 300ml? obviously developer and fixer. photoflo and squeege, film clips. what am I forgetting? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.856 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3174 - Release Date: 10/03/10 01:34:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
