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Hi Luiz, I understand, thanks for sharing. I hope things work out for your niece. On 25/1/09, Luiz Felipe, discombobulated, unleashed: Waiting is the worst part. Cotty, now the anger is under control somewhat, I have to be fair. People tried to help him. Some tried to make him stand before understanding that it just was not a good idea, and we made quite a racket - but there was no staff member capable of doing anything but talk to other staff member. When I started taking those pics he had no pulse and had stopped breathing for a while. Our racket clued the news guy of the problem. Most brasilian hospitals are plagued by their quality - trauma victims come from distant places to the one good - and this is really good - hospital of the big city. Of course there isn't enough hospital for everyone. Worst, many would be better somewhere else - this place is specialised in trauma and burns, but gets an avalanche of everything and then trauma. Our niece was riding a motorcycle in her home town, some 6 hours away in the inner part of the state. In that hellhole no one wears helmets. She and her friend were struck by another motorcycle at high speed, and the friend may lose a leg. Our niece may not survive and her recovery will include lots of plastic surgery. Her city has an hospital, usually without medics, almost always without supplies. City hall keeps a small fleet of shinning station wagons transformed in ambulances, to cart people to this particular hospital in Fortaleza. That setup has been a pain of mine for a long time, but I'm just an old, grumpy fool, in risk of attending yet another burial. The asshole of a cousin that came with her to the hospital spent 7 hours calling the wrong persons - when we knew of the accident and took charge there were more small town politicians and preachers than medics at her side. Yes, there are lots of medics in that hospital, but today they just were not enough. Of course, if the right ears get enough noise, things get better. Until the good ones overwork themselves, and the creatures behind desks default to doing just their jobs and nothing more than their jobs. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Luiz, I hope your niece gets well and recovers completely. Although I haven't lived in Brazil for many years, I see that (sadly) the health system is still in a sorry shape, especially in places far away from the big cities. As usual in Brazil, you are out of luck if you aren't obscenely rich or at least well off. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote: Best trauma hospital of this area - in fact, best of the northeast. Little fellow walks out the secondary access, slow. Gets on his knees. Crawls forward some inches. Some try to get him on his feet, he begs to be left alone. Then dies. Suppose this is making the news tomorrow - a news photographer is nearby, takes some pics, then gets in a row with the person behind the desk. Photographer is angry at the scene, yells about the lack of respect for a human being lying in the front of the hospital. The person behind the desk is angry, now - about the words used to address him, the death is just another death. There were many, there will be more. The police arrives, then the little fellow is carried back to the hospital. News photographer takes the pic of the person behind the desk. They carry on their lives. No one looks at me. All I have in my hands is cell phone. I know men and woman that work in that hospital. Didn't know the person behind the desk today. The men and women I know there are hard working people, in an impossible challenge to help the needed. Those men and women often work so hard in that hospital they collapse the moment they arrive home, until the next fight. They were not nearby. They would not let the news photographer offend the creature behind the desk. Not out of respect for the creature, but because that creature is beyond help, same as the little fellow. There are ones we can still help. http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/012509102548-00.jpg http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/012509102606-00.jpg http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/012509102638-00.jpg http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/012509102708-00.jpg Those are powerful images, Luiz. I hope your niece and her friend are able to recover from their ordeal. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks - a lot - for your wishes and understanding. Means a great deal. We still have hope of their recovery. Will take time and they are going to bear marks, but every fight leaves scars - and I can't tihnk of a better fight than this, doing the best we can for our young. If only they heard us a litte more... Carlos, the wealthy have private hospital rooms - but that's just part of the story. They also face indifferent people that drag feet to attend midnight calls, stupid or evil persons discussing how little chance of surviving they have, not caring if the patient is hearing or not, lazy and reckless creatures incapable of checking an IV line until it's too late, and so on. Those humaniform creatures often take offense when we try to work around them - we do it anyway. Found them in other places too - they're fond of occupations where they have the authority of using the words no, you can't. The nightmares of BR hospitals are wrong people in key areas and overcrowding. I don't see this changing soon. A huge help comes in dedicated staff members and volunteers willing to double and triple efforts to get things done, or at least a little better. I really hope this effort never stops - we try to get even more. I really want to apologize for any inconvenient expression. English is a language I enjoy studying, misuse with 'gusto', but is not my default... LF ...next pic I'll show you will be about flowers... I hope. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Luiz Felipe wrote: Our niece was riding a motorcycle in her home town, some 6 hours away in the inner part of the state. In that hellhole no one wears helmets. She and her friend were struck by another motorcycle at high speed, and the friend may lose a leg. Our niece may not survive and her recovery will include lots of plastic surgery. Her city has an hospital, usually without medics, almost always without supplies. City hall keeps a small fleet of shinning station wagons transformed in ambulances, to cart people to this particular hospital in Fortaleza. That setup has been a pain of mine for a long time, but I'm just an old, grumpy fool, in risk of attending yet another burial. The asshole of a cousin that came with her to the hospital spent 7 hours calling the wrong persons - when we knew of the accident and took charge there were more small town politicians and preachers than medics at her side. Yes, there are lots of medics in that hospital, but today they just were not enough. Of course, if the right ears get enough noise, things get better. Until the good ones overwork themselves, and the creatures behind desks default to doing just their jobs and nothing more than their jobs. LF Luiz, please pass to your niece our wishes of speedy and complete recovery. Your story is nerve-wrecking. I do admit that your story did put some of the things in my mind to more proper perspective. *deep sigh* Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jan 25, 2009, at 7:34 PM, Luiz Felipe wrote: Our niece was riding a motorcycle in her home town, some 6 hours away in the inner part of the state. In that hellhole no one wears helmets. She and her friend were struck by another motorcycle at high speed, and the friend may lose a leg. Our niece may not survive and her recovery will include lots of plastic surgery. Her city has an hospital, usually without medics, almost always without supplies. City hall keeps a small fleet of shinning station wagons transformed in ambulances, to cart people to this particular hospital in Fortaleza. That setup has been a pain of mine for a long time, but I'm just an old, grumpy fool, in risk of attending yet another burial. The asshole of a cousin that came with her to the hospital spent 7 hours calling the wrong persons - when we knew of the accident and took charge there were more small town politicians and preachers than medics at her side. Yes, there are lots of medics in that hospital, but today they just were not enough. Of course, if the right ears get enough noise, things get better. Until the good ones overwork themselves, and the creatures behind desks default to doing just their jobs and nothing more than their jobs. LF Sending thoughts of strength and recovery, Luiz. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Best trauma hospital of this area - in fact, best of the northeast. Little fellow walks out the secondary access, slow. Gets on his knees. Crawls forward some inches. Some try to get him on his feet, he begs to be left alone. Then dies. Suppose this is making the news tomorrow - a news photographer is nearby, takes some pics, then gets in a row with the person behind the desk. Photographer is angry at the scene, yells about the lack of respect for a human being lying in the front of the hospital. The person behind the desk is angry, now - about the words used to address him, the death is just another death. There were many, there will be more. The police arrives, then the little fellow is carried back to the hospital. News photographer takes the pic of the person behind the desk. They carry on their lives. No one looks at me. All I have in my hands is cell phone. I know men and woman that work in that hospital. Didn't know the person behind the desk today. The men and women I know there are hard working people, in an impossible challenge to help the needed. Those men and women often work so hard in that hospital they collapse the moment they arrive home, until the next fight. They were not nearby. They would not let the news photographer offend the creature behind the desk. Not out of respect for the creature, but because that creature is beyond help, same as the little fellow. There are ones we can still help. http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/012509102548-00.jpg http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/012509102606-00.jpg http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/012509102638-00.jpg http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/012509102708-00.jpg LF -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Luiz, It looks like a scene from one of our Television dramas called ER (for Emergency Room). They are filled with life and death situations and frantic nurses and doctors. The situations portrayed are impossible, yet very real. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote: Best trauma hospital of this area - in fact, best of the northeast. Little fellow walks out the secondary access, slow. Gets on his knees. Crawls forward some inches. Some try to get him on his feet, he begs to be left alone. Then dies. Suppose this is making the news tomorrow - a news photographer is nearby, takes some pics, then gets in a row with the person behind the desk. Photographer is angry at the scene, yells about the lack of respect for a human being lying in the front of the hospital. The person behind the desk is angry, now - about the words used to address him, the death is just another death. There were many, there will be more. The police arrives, then the little fellow is carried back to the hospital. News photographer takes the pic of the person behind the desk. They carry on their lives. No one looks at me. All I have in my hands is cell phone. I know men and woman that work in that hospital. Didn't know the person behind the desk today. The men and women I know there are hard working people, in an impossible challenge to help the needed. Those men and women often work so hard in that hospital they collapse the moment they arrive home, until the next fight. They were not nearby. They would not let the news photographer offend the creature behind the desk. Not out of respect for the creature, but because that creature is beyond help, same as the little fellow. There are ones we can still help. http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/012509102548-00.jpg http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/012509102606-00.jpg http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/012509102638-00.jpg http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/012509102708-00.jpg LF -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 25/1/09, Luiz Felipe, discombobulated, unleashed: Best trauma hospital of this area - in fact, best of the northeast. Little fellow walks out the secondary access, slow. Gets on his knees. Crawls forward some inches. Some try to get him on his feet, he begs to be left alone. Then dies. Suppose this is making the news tomorrow - a news photographer is nearby, takes some pics, then gets in a row with the person behind the desk. Photographer is angry at the scene, yells about the lack of respect for a human being lying in the front of the hospital. The person behind the desk is angry, now - about the words used to address him, the death is just another death. There were many, there will be more. The police arrives, then the little fellow is carried back to the hospital. News photographer takes the pic of the person behind the desk. They carry on their lives. No one looks at me. All I have in my hands is cell phone. I know men and woman that work in that hospital. Didn't know the person behind the desk today. The men and women I know there are hard working people, in an impossible challenge to help the needed. Those men and women often work so hard in that hospital they collapse the moment they arrive home, until the next fight. They were not nearby. They would not let the news photographer offend the creature behind the desk. Not out of respect for the creature, but because that creature is beyond help, same as the little fellow. There are ones we can still help. http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/012509102548-00.jpg http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/012509102606-00.jpg http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/012509102638-00.jpg http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/012509102708-00.jpg Interesting. Nobody tries to help - that would not happen here. I most places. This picture is very strong: http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/012509102638-00.jpg -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Know the series, Bob - like to watch now and then, myself. Only wish the folks at the hospital would just go home at the end of the day's shooting. Have a niece in coma at the same hospital due to motorcycle accident, that may join little fellow any moment. Small irony, all our friends there were unavailable at first moment - or I'd never taken those pics. I was more useful making phone calls outside, and just stepped into that scene. Waiting is the worst part. Cotty, now the anger is under control somewhat, I have to be fair. People tried to help him. Some tried to make him stand before understanding that it just was not a good idea, and we made quite a racket - but there was no staff member capable of doing anything but talk to other staff member. When I started taking those pics he had no pulse and had stopped breathing for a while. Our racket clued the news guy of the problem. Most brasilian hospitals are plagued by their quality - trauma victims come from distant places to the one good - and this is really good - hospital of the big city. Of course there isn't enough hospital for everyone. Worst, many would be better somewhere else - this place is specialised in trauma and burns, but gets an avalanche of everything and then trauma. Our niece was riding a motorcycle in her home town, some 6 hours away in the inner part of the state. In that hellhole no one wears helmets. She and her friend were struck by another motorcycle at high speed, and the friend may lose a leg. Our niece may not survive and her recovery will include lots of plastic surgery. Her city has an hospital, usually without medics, almost always without supplies. City hall keeps a small fleet of shinning station wagons transformed in ambulances, to cart people to this particular hospital in Fortaleza. That setup has been a pain of mine for a long time, but I'm just an old, grumpy fool, in risk of attending yet another burial. The asshole of a cousin that came with her to the hospital spent 7 hours calling the wrong persons - when we knew of the accident and took charge there were more small town politicians and preachers than medics at her side. Yes, there are lots of medics in that hospital, but today they just were not enough. Of course, if the right ears get enough noise, things get better. Until the good ones overwork themselves, and the creatures behind desks default to doing just their jobs and nothing more than their jobs. LF Luiz Felipe escreveu: Best trauma hospital of this area - in fact, best of the northeast. Little fellow walks out the secondary access, slow. Gets on his knees. Crawls forward some inches. Some try to get him on his feet, he begs to be left alone. Then dies. Suppose this is making the news tomorrow - a news photographer is nearby, takes some pics, then gets in a row with the person behind the desk. Photographer is angry at the scene, yells about the lack of respect for a human being lying in the front of the hospital. The person behind the desk is angry, now - about the words used to address him, the death is just another death. There were many, there will be more. The police arrives, then the little fellow is carried back to the hospital. News photographer takes the pic of the person behind the desk. They carry on their lives. No one looks at me. All I have in my hands is cell phone. I know men and woman that work in that hospital. Didn't know the person behind the desk today. The men and women I know there are hard working people, in an impossible challenge to help the needed. Those men and women often work so hard in that hospital they collapse the moment they arrive home, until the next fight. They were not nearby. They would not let the news photographer offend the creature behind the desk. Not out of respect for the creature, but because that creature is beyond help, same as the little fellow. There are ones we can still help. http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/012509102548-00.jpg http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/012509102606-00.jpg http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/012509102638-00.jpg http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/012509102708-00.jpg LF -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Luiz, Sorry to hear about your neice. Living thru youth is sometimes difficult. I hope she comes out of the coma soon. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote: Know the series, Bob - like to watch now and then, myself. Only wish the folks at the hospital would just go home at the end of the day's shooting. Have a niece in coma at the same hospital due to motorcycle accident, that may join little fellow any moment. Small irony, all our friends there were unavailable at first moment - or I'd never taken those pics. I was more useful making phone calls outside, and just stepped into that scene. Waiting is the worst part. Cotty, now the anger is under control somewhat, I have to be fair. People tried to help him. Some tried to make him stand before understanding that it just was not a good idea, and we made quite a racket - but there was no staff member capable of doing anything but talk to other staff member. When I started taking those pics he had no pulse and had stopped breathing for a while. Our racket clued the news guy of the problem. Most brasilian hospitals are plagued by their quality - trauma victims come from distant places to the one good - and this is really good - hospital of the big city. Of course there isn't enough hospital for everyone. Worst, many would be better somewhere else - this place is specialised in trauma and burns, but gets an avalanche of everything and then trauma. Our niece was riding a motorcycle in her home town, some 6 hours away in the inner part of the state. In that hellhole no one wears helmets. She and her friend were struck by another motorcycle at high speed, and the friend may lose a leg. Our niece may not survive and her recovery will include lots of plastic surgery. Her city has an hospital, usually without medics, almost always without supplies. City hall keeps a small fleet of shinning station wagons transformed in ambulances, to cart people to this particular hospital in Fortaleza. That setup has been a pain of mine for a long time, but I'm just an old, grumpy fool, in risk of attending yet another burial. The asshole of a cousin that came with her to the hospital spent 7 hours calling the wrong persons - when we knew of the accident and took charge there were more small town politicians and preachers than medics at her side. Yes, there are lots of medics in that hospital, but today they just were not enough. Of course, if the right ears get enough noise, things get better. Until the good ones overwork themselves, and the creatures behind desks default to doing just their jobs and nothing more than their jobs. LF Luiz Felipe escreveu: Best trauma hospital of this area - in fact, best of the northeast. Little fellow walks out the secondary access, slow. Gets on his knees. Crawls forward some inches. Some try to get him on his feet, he begs to be left alone. Then dies. Suppose this is making the news tomorrow - a news photographer is nearby, takes some pics, then gets in a row with the person behind the desk. Photographer is angry at the scene, yells about the lack of respect for a human being lying in the front of the hospital. The person behind the desk is angry, now - about the words used to address him, the death is just another death. There were many, there will be more. The police arrives, then the little fellow is carried back to the hospital. News photographer takes the pic of the person behind the desk. They carry on their lives. No one looks at me. All I have in my hands is cell phone. I know men and woman that work in that hospital. Didn't know the person behind the desk today. The men and women I know there are hard working people, in an impossible challenge to help the needed. Those men and women often work so hard in that hospital they collapse the moment they arrive home, until the next fight. They were not nearby. They would not let the news photographer offend the creature behind the desk. Not out of respect for the creature, but because that creature is beyond help, same as the little fellow. There are ones we can still help. http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/012509102548-00.jpg http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/012509102606-00.jpg http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/012509102638-00.jpg http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/012509102708-00.jpg LF -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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In a message dated 1/25/2009 9:55:23 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br writes: I know men and woman that work in that hospital. Didn't know the person behind the desk today. The men and women I know there are hard working people, in an impossible challenge to help the needed. Those men and women often work so hard in that hospital they collapse the moment they arrive home, until the next fight. They were not nearby. They would not let the news photographer offend the creature behind the desk. Not out of respect for the creature, but because that creature is beyond help, same as the little fellow. There are ones we can still help. http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/012509102548-00.jpg http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/012509102606-00.jpg http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/012509102638-00.jpg http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/012509102708-00.jpg LF = Quite a story, Luis. Sad. Thanks for sharing. Marnie - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Know Your Numbers: Get tips and tools to help you improve your credit score. (http://www.walletpop.com/credit/credit-reports?ncid=emlcntuswall0002) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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In a message dated 1/25/2009 4:35:14 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br writes: Our niece was riding a motorcycle in her home town, some 6 hours away in the inner part of the state. In that hellhole no one wears helmets. She and her friend were struck by another motorcycle at high speed, and the friend may lose a leg. Our niece may not survive and her recovery will include lots of plastic surgery. Her city has an hospital, usually without medics, almost always without supplies. City hall keeps a small fleet of shinning station wagons transformed in ambulances, to cart people to this particular hospital in Fortaleza. That setup has been a pain of mine for a long time, but I'm just an old, grumpy fool, in risk of attending yet another burial. The asshole of a cousin that came with her to the hospital spent 7 hours calling the wrong persons - when we knew of the accident and took charge there were more small town politicians and preachers than medics at her side. Yes, there are lots of medics in that hospital, but today they just were not enough. Of course, if the right ears get enough noise, things get better. Until the good ones overwork themselves, and the creatures behind desks default to doing just their jobs and nothing more than their jobs. LF === Good luck to your niece. Sigh. Marnie - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Know Your Numbers: Get tips and tools to help you improve your credit score. (http://www.walletpop.com/credit/credit-reports?ncid=emlcntuswall0002) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br Our niece was riding a motorcycle in her home town, some 6 hours away in the inner part of the state. In that hellhole no one wears helmets. She and her friend were struck by another motorcycle at high speed, and the friend may lose a leg. Our niece may not survive and her recovery will include lots of plastic surgery. Her city has an hospital, usually without medics, almost always without supplies. City hall keeps a small fleet of shinning station wagons transformed in ambulances, to cart people to this particular hospital in Fortaleza. That setup has been a pain of mine for a long time, but I'm just an old, grumpy fool, in risk of attending yet another burial. The asshole of a cousin that came with her to the hospital spent 7 hours calling the wrong persons - when we knew of the accident and took charge there were more small town politicians and preachers than medics at her side. Yes, there are lots of medics in that hospital, but today they just were not enough. Of course, if the right ears get enough noise, things get better. Until the good ones overwork themselves, and the creatures behind desks default to doing just their jobs and nothing more than their jobs. I'm very sorry about your niece, Luiz. I wish her all the best. Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.