Re: OT: Who is behind the scene of Komkon hosting P*G (was: Recommended SD Cards
- Original Message - From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I think it's a multicoloured dodecahedron with a sort of knobbly potato shape cut out of the middle and bisected by 6-dimensional string. At least, that's how I imagine it. With the occasional sparc of octarine light emanating from the intersections. Cheers, Rincewind and Twoflower
Re: unsubscribe
"Relax, said the nightman, we are programmed to receive. You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave." Cheers, the soaring birds of prey. - Original Message - From: "ricksmith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 10:34 AM Subject: unsubscribe - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 1:12 PM Subject: pentax-discuss-d Digest V05 #1971 -- Content-Type: text/plain pentax-discuss-d Digest Volume 05 : Issue 1971 [snip]
RE: EuroEnglish (Was: Same lenses ...)
Just a quick step out of the shadows of lurkelihood. "New Norwegian" was indeed constructed (or construed :-)) in the period of National Romanticism following the establishment of our Constitution and the more independent status we achieved in the union with Sweden; compared to our status in the "double-monarcy" with Denmark before Napoleon's demise. This period (1814-1905) saw a "golden age" in Norwegian cultural life, and produced artists like Henrik Ibsen (playwriter), Edvard Grieg (composer), Knut Hamsun (author), and others. Technically speaking, the New Norwegian was an attempt to build a language based on the dialects that were thought to be least influenced by Danish. Which in practice meant the dialects from the most remote and isolated valleys in central Southern Norway. For some reason, the best represented dialects were from the same area as it's constructor, Ivar Aasen. :-) However, to make sure that New Norwegian got a broad basis in the whole population (still only considering Southern Norway), a lot of optional forms and grammar was introduced. It's main distinction is that whatever is the normal form in the alternative, Bokmål, is Strictly Not Allowed in New Norwegian. Interestingly, this excludes the dialects of almost half of the population in the country. It may shine through that I live in this part of the country, and thus don't see the bloody point of the entire thing. In my opinion, learning New Norwegian is a matter for the particularly interested. :-) However, I tend to think of all languages and dialects as music; and I must say I truly enjoy the variation in melody between different and properly spoken Norwegian dialects. Icelandic, and the language of the Faroe Islands, are much closer to the old Norse than any Noregian incarnation, and seem pretty foreign to us. However, many of the melodic features are similar to the Scandinavian languages. I find it extremely fascinating to listen to Icelandic because I understand the intonation, but not the words. Cheers, Jostein Quoting Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I have no idea. > Norwegian was very much like Danish (when Norway was a part of Denmark), so > the languages are very similar. (Norwegian and Danish is veruy somilar to > Danish as well - the thhree Scandinavian countries basically shar a > language). Norway and Denmark are the only countries that still have the > three letters a, o and a. After the liberation, the Norwegians tried to > restore the original old Norwegian language - Ny Norsk (New Norwegian), > which was actually the old, pre-danish Norwegian language. Rather > unsuccessfully, I'm afraid. Today Norwegian is still very similar to Danish, > with small differences, especially the spelling. Basically we do understand > each other very well. Both are of course Germanic languages, which share the > most common words (with Germany and England); like hand, finger, eye, man, > arm, boat, house, way, see, hear, ear, feel, friend etc. etc. I guess the > people on both sides of the North Sea did understand eachother very well a > thousand years ago. During the dark medieval ages the languages in each > country changed - evolved in different directions, so to speak. > > It seems that the spelling changes significantly when ever a new state is > officially formed. This may be the explanation for the proposed Euro-English > language. EU even tried to agree on a shared EU constitution some time ago - > unsuccessfully as you all know. I believe Euro English will eventually share > the same destiny. > > Regards > > Jens Bladt > Arkitekt MAA > http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt > > > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > Fra: Bob W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sendt: 4. september 2005 23:52 > Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Emne: RE: EuroEnglish (Was: Same lenses ...) > > > > The Norwegians are even better - they spell everything just > > like it's pronounced. > > Does everybody have the same accent, or do people with different accents > spell things differently to suit their pronunciation? > > -- > Cheers, > Bob > > > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: Colour profiles-PS-and home prining
Dave, I gave up calibrating the printer. I have the Color Spyder for calibrating the screen, but never got the prints right. The solution for me was to order the service from a pro digital photo vendor. They sent me a file to print without colour correction. I sent the print back for the paper types I use, and got a ready-to-use colour profile to use for printing. In PSP, I have to select the custom made profile, turn off the adjustments in the printer driver, and voilá. Works every time. It was a bit expensive, but it's worth it IMHO. Jostein - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 9:37 AM Subject: Colour profiles-PS-and home prining Hi gang. I know quite a few are up on colour profiles on this list so i thought i would ask here first. I'm still haveing problems getting my print to look like the monitor. I have only used Adobe Gamma to adjust my monitor and have not used the Spyder type of devices. First off, should i be using that type of device if i'm going to do this at least semi seriously. Second, when i shoot my D1 it does not have a real rgb or srgb colour space persay. I forget what it is but PS seems to call it srgb. My D2H is usually shot in Nikon RGB. When i print with my Canons(S800 or BJC8200) i have many options for colour space. I usually choose working space,but sometimes try the working srgb etc. Do i need to convert the file from say the Nikon RGB to srgb in PS, then select that otiopn in the drop down menu,or am i wasting my time until i trruly profile my monitor. In PS 6 if i load up a D2H file it asks what colour space to use. In PSEL3 it does not. Or are there profiles for these Canons out there that should be loaded and used. Any help is appreciated. Right now i need to up the curves past what looks good on my monitor then it prints out the way it should look in real life. Dave(getting back to home printing more)Brooks
Re: GESO - September 11 Aurora
Nice pics, Tom. Here's one I took last night. We were having a bonfire on the beach, so it was only luck that we discovered the lights in the sky. http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3471/display/3916511 Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 4:16 PM Subject: GESO - September 11 Aurora It's aurora season again. Last night was great and the outlook for tonight is good as well. There's currently a G3 storm in progress. G1 lowest/G5 highest. These photos were taken last night with the *ist D, FA 31mm f/1.8 LTD. Exposure time around 30 seconds at f/2.8 at ISO 400. Raw captures, no adjustments. Resized and sharpened. http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=299012 Tom C.
Re: Colour profiles-PS-and home prining
Hi Jens, I don't know the system they use. All I know is that they bought their hardware less than a year ago, and that it was a big investment for the company. They take NOK 500,- per profile they make. You will need one profile per paper type per printer. their web presence is this: http://www.fotosentralen.no/ But I suggest you call the Oslo office and talk to them about it directly. However, it would surprise me if there's no shop in Copenhagen that can do the same thing...:-) Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 6:59 PM Subject: RE: Colour profiles-PS-and home prining This is very intersting, Jostein. We might find this very usefull at work. Can you give us the name of the company or the name of the system they are using. In Denmark we have a company called Pixl, that does the same thing you described (I believe). I've been reading their website, but it's sooo complicated and difficllt to understand. They can do the whole thing for us, but it costs a small fortune - somthing like 5000 USD or each printer. And it turned out that some of our printers can't really be calibrated at all. Regards Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -----Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 11. september 2005 18:40 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: Colour profiles-PS-and home prining Dave, I gave up calibrating the printer. I have the Color Spyder for calibrating the screen, but never got the prints right. The solution for me was to order the service from a pro digital photo vendor. They sent me a file to print without colour correction. I sent the print back for the paper types I use, and got a ready-to-use colour profile to use for printing. In PSP, I have to select the custom made profile, turn off the adjustments in the printer driver, and voilá. Works every time. It was a bit expensive, but it's worth it IMHO. Jostein - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 9:37 AM Subject: Colour profiles-PS-and home prining Hi gang. I know quite a few are up on colour profiles on this list so i thought i would ask here first. I'm still haveing problems getting my print to look like the monitor. I have only used Adobe Gamma to adjust my monitor and have not used the Spyder type of devices. First off, should i be using that type of device if i'm going to do this at least semi seriously. Second, when i shoot my D1 it does not have a real rgb or srgb colour space persay. I forget what it is but PS seems to call it srgb. My D2H is usually shot in Nikon RGB. When i print with my Canons(S800 or BJC8200) i have many options for colour space. I usually choose working space,but sometimes try the working srgb etc. Do i need to convert the file from say the Nikon RGB to srgb in PS, then select that otiopn in the drop down menu,or am i wasting my time until i trruly profile my monitor. In PS 6 if i load up a D2H file it asks what colour space to use. In PSEL3 it does not. Or are there profiles for these Canons out there that should be loaded and used. Any help is appreciated. Right now i need to up the curves past what looks good on my monitor then it prints out the way it should look in real life. Dave(getting back to home printing more)Brooks
Re: Stop digital cameras from taking photos?
Follow the links from the article to the website of the inventors. http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~summetj/cre/ There's a sentence there which reads: "By out-fitting a camera with a ring of IR-LEDs and an IR pass filter, we are able to detect the retro-reflection caused by CCD imaging chips." So I suppose what they do is to detect CCD chips that reflect IR. That should leave the bespectacled unscathed...:-) Nor would this work against DSLRs, where the CCD is not detectable before the mirror comes up and the shutter is opened. :-) Jostein - Original Message - From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 3:34 PM Subject: Re: Stop digital cameras from taking photos? From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2005/09/19 Mon PM 12:20:02 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Stop digital cameras from taking photos? Interesting article on C|NET: http://news.com.com/Crave+privacy+New+tech+knocks+out+digital+cameras/2100-7337_3-5869832.html?tag=nefd.lede Reading about the way this putative technology works is to wonder how anyone wearing spectacles is going to be able to cope. IIR(ead)C, the response is generated because of a reflection from a lens. Therefore all lenses will extract a response. Spectacles, all cameras, etc. Why pick on digital? Apart from for fun, of course. mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Stop digital cameras from taking photos?
- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> That would depend on the lag time of the system. Exactly. Ever watched a projector lamp turn on? :-) Jostein
Re: George's potty stop deconstructed
- Original Message - From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (unless you're standing next to David Blunkett, I suppose...) Um... To us non-british... Would that mean the same as standing next to Stevie Wonder? Jostein
Re: PDML 10th anniversary
Congrats, Pål! I can't recall when I first joined, but I remember one post from the early days where you described having your LX breaking down while photographing an airshow or similar. Something about it not working on manually selected shutter speeds, only on auto. Do you remember when that was, Pål? Possibly -96... Jostein Quoting Pål Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I made my first post on this forum 18/8-95. Then it was just started... > I think I'm the "oldest surviving" member... > Time flies... > > Pål > > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: PDML 10th anniversary
Quoting Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Happy anniversary, everyone... > > Boris (a.k.a. Jar Jar a.k.a. The Youngster) You'll be okay as long as you keep your tongue out of the light arch. Sorry, mate... just couldn't resist...:-) Cheers, Jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: PDML 10th anniversary
Quoting Pål Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I was not photographing an air show but my camera broke down when it was 19 > years old. It was bought in 1981 so it must have been in 2000. Anyway, I > believe that you joined in the fall of '99. That was second time around. I first joined in -96 or -97, then unsubscribed for a while when relocating to another part of the country, then resubscribing in fall -99, when things had settled down a bit. I certainly was around before Doug took over the list. I remember the first beginnings of PUG, when Dick Graham and others advocated it. I also remember all the positive hum on the list when the MZ-5 was released. And all the bitching from those who wanted a follow-up from the Z-1p rather than the MZ series. :-) Anyway I'm a youngster compared to you and Doug et. al... :-) Cheers, Jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: Temporarily enabled with 2.8/70-200mm
Why not count the last 50 years! And why not just limit the math to K-mount and compatible lenses? 95% or more will have an aperturering. (Counting all point and shoots, video lenses, security cameras etc. is ridiculous in the present context) Very true. However, the Canon EOS lenses does not have an aperture ring, and neither does many nikon lenses. I don't know exactly why C and N have eliminated them, but it could be a sign in time for the future of the K-mount. Personally, I don't miss the aperture ring much. Jostein
Re: GESO - Great North Run
- Original Message - From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Three pictures, nothing gruesome. Except for the photography 8-) http://home.fotocommunity.de/mike.a.wilson/index.php?id=529253&g=150496 Well captured! I think all three are very good. Cheers, Jostein
Re: Re: Hurrah for Shel Disrobing the Emperor
- Original Message - From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> or possibly Cole's Law (thinly sliced cabbage). LOL. Damn. My turn to spill coffee around the 'puter. :-) Jostein
Sigma lens oddity
A couple of days ago I experimented with the AF 1.7TC, the autofocus teleconverter, on the *istD. My Pentax lenses worked fine, but my Sigma EX 70-200/2.8 did not work well with the TC. On full opening, the aperture reported was f/2.8. When stopped down, however, I could select f/40. That's 2/3 stops more than the lens supports on it's own. Today took readings with MZ-S, and the same happens there. Also, exposure was way off at some apertures It overexposed badly on full opening, then worked fine at f/4 to f/16, and then gradually began to overexpose again. At f/32 it was at least as bad as at f/2.8, and the "f/40" was useless. Anyone else had the same experiences? Jostein
Re: Pentax 645
Only Pål's posts have reached me from this thread, but his points are all well made, imho. Except maybe the likeness to MZ-S. I think the platform they used to develop the n and nII was MZ-5. :-) I've had the original 645 and still have the 645nII, and both are great tools. I found the buttons on the old one a bit fiddly ans small, but that may be down to taste. Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: "Pål Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 6:02 PM Subject: Re: Pentax 645 Shel wrote: Having enjoyed my first foray into medium format, moving further along seems like a good idea. The Pentax 645 systems seem like a pretty good choice. Any comments on these cameras, lenses? A web site that describes features and accessories would be helpful. I used a Mamiya 645 for a few weeks last year and, while the results were quite good, the cameras was a bear to lug around. I'm thinking that a Pentax would be smaller and lighter, yes? REPLY: The Pentax 645's are about the size of a high-end Nikon and Canon 35mm bodies which is small for an MF slr. In fact, you cannot find a smaller or lighter MF slr system. The original 645 can be seen as a Super A with motor drive built to a professional standard. The 645N and NII are more like an MZ-S for MF. If you want to go cheap, choose the old 645. However, the N and NII have added a number a useful features, like matrix and spot metering, better finder, data imprinting, mirror lock and pre-fire, AF, to warrant a higher price used and new. I recommend the 645NII over the N as the latter may show film flatness issues due to 16 frames a roll. Pål
Re: LONDON PDML - Shakespeare's Cafe
Looks like a nice place to stuff a lot of PDML'ers together...:-) Jostein - Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pentax list" Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 11:22 AM Subject: LONDON PDML - Shakespeare's Cafe Unless there's any better suggestion, I will book a table for us all at 6.30pm in the Globe Theatre Cafe just along from the London Eye. <http://tinyurl.com/4r9w3> Looks out over the Thames, and the food is quite good at a reasonable cost. Comments please before I book. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Sigma lens oddity
Thanks, Mark (and Kostas too). It's good to know that it's not just my items that are faulty, even if it doesn't solve the issue...:-) Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: "Mark Cassino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:57 AM Subject: Re: Sigma lens oddity I jut tried my AF 1.7x TC on my Sigma 70-200 f2.8 and 50mm f2.8 macro and got similar results with both lenses - though mine showed a maximum aperture of f2.8 and minimum of f38. I put the TC on my A* 200 f4 and the minimum aperture of the lens (f 32) shows as f 54. I used a Pz-1p as the test camera, and also tested a couple of FA lenses which worked fine. Interestingly, my manual focus Sigma 14mm f3.5 worked fine with this TC, as did my Tokina 400mm f5.6 and Kiron 105 f2.8 macro (that's all the A compatible non-Pentax lenses I have.) You'd think if Sigma could make it work right with their A compatible lenses, they could get it right for their AF lenses as well. As you no doubt know, this TC does translate aperture setting to the effective aperture when coupled with an A or higher lens. Apparently this does not work so well with the new Sigmas. I don't know what that does for exposure /aperture settings - the other Pentax TC's do not convert aperture data to the effective aperture, and I've used them without problem in the past. - MCC - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Original Message - From: "Jostein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 5:46 AM Subject: Sigma lens oddity A couple of days ago I experimented with the AF 1.7TC, the autofocus teleconverter, on the *istD. My Pentax lenses worked fine, but my Sigma EX 70-200/2.8 did not work well with the TC. On full opening, the aperture reported was f/2.8. When stopped down, however, I could select f/40. That's 2/3 stops more than the lens supports on it's own. Today took readings with MZ-S, and the same happens there. Also, exposure was way off at some apertures It overexposed badly on full opening, then worked fine at f/4 to f/16, and then gradually began to overexpose again. At f/32 it was at least as bad as at f/2.8, and the "f/40" was useless. Anyone else had the same experiences? Jostein
Re: I'm steppin' up!!
Tan, You're nuts! :-) Fingers crossed for good business! Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: "Tan and Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Net [EMAIL PROTECTED]" Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 4:33 AM Subject: I'm steppin' up!! Well, guys and girls, I am steppin' up! I have just signed the lease on my very own office/studio space!! It is in the heart of Fortitude Valley, which is a pretty cool place in Brisbane to have a business, and I am sharing the building with a Graphic Design company so with any luck, I may even net myself a few commercial jobs! You can see my space here: www.pomo.com.au and click on the "Pomo has room to rent" link to the bottom of the page. The company is a very progressive company run, by young, grovy people who are great fun! They are dying to see just what I "have in mind" for the place wrt decorating etc. Also, to give you an indication of the direction I am going with the marketing of my business, please have a squiz at my website: www.tanyamayer.com to see my new company name and logo etc. I have just purchased a new domain too - www.tmpstudio.com.au and my site will resolve to that one as well in the next day or so. I am so excited!!! I would love to invite you all to my office launch but obviously it won't be possible, maybe I can set up a webcam though so you can all be a part of the action! Yy! tan. (and yes, I know how crazy I am taking this on in the midst of all of the planning, fundraising etc for our bike ride, but that's just the kinda gal I am, and who needs sleep anyways?!?!) Tanya Mayer Photography Brisbane, Qld, Australia www.tanyamayer.com Ph +61 (07) 3315 4549 Mobile +61 0431289650
Re: Publication!
Congrats, Frank! Hope it'll bring you lots of credit in the future! Jostein - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PDML" Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 5:24 PM Subject: OT: Publication! Well, maybe it's not OT, because all photos were taken with Pentax equipment. My friend Jennifer Moore's group, Pirate Jenny released their new CD today, and 7 of my photos are featured in the package. The cover photo (a portrait of her) is the only photo that's not mine, but the rest (all performance photos) are mine. Quite exciting! Here are rough scans of the back cover, the back page of the booklet (with attribution and thanks) and one of the performance shots of her (I'm glad she chose that one, because it's one of my faves: http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=488908 I'm listening to her CD as I type, and it's wonderful. A great job of recording and production; a wonderful job of making her and the group sound as great as they do in concert (which, sadly, wasn't captured on her first CD). I know I've posted her site before, but here it is again: http://www.piratejenny.ca/ You can see the front cover of her new CD there, plus listen to some songs off her first CD. I'm pumped. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Belgium
Sociologically interesting, Manneken has a twin sister... Jostein - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 6:34 PM Subject: OT: Belgium I'm off for a week in Brussels and Brugge. Any tips on good photographic subjects there? (Other than the infamous manneken pis) Dan M
GFM recap from 2004 - Bill Fortney
Gang, Last year's main speaker at GFM NPW, Bill Fortney, was sharing some pics and videos from his book project "America from 500 feet" where he and his son had shot USA landscapes from microplanes, trike planes, ultralights, motorised hanggliders, or whatever they're called where you live...:-) Last night I came across a website that have some of the videos online: http://www.trikepilot.com/billfortney.html (warning, the sequences are quite long, so the files are huge!) The one with the same title as the book features a Pentax 645nII. Fortney was very careful not to mention Pentax at GFM since he's now an official Nikon representative, but in the online version Pentax is even on the credits list. Cheers, Jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: PESO: Spring comes. Eventually.
- Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://oksne.net/paw/gryta.html Very nice mate. That ice?? And you call that spring?? LOL. Well yes... Spring comes at a very varying pace from place to place. Gryta is probably the last lake around here to come open because of it's location. It's a deep lake with steep shores, down in a narrow valley. Around the houses, spring flowers are popping up everywhere. They're probably my next photographic pursuit. :-) Thanks for looking, mate... :-) Cheers, Jostein
Re: PESO: Spring comes. Eventually.
Thanks Bruce, It's the first time in 15 years I've been down to that lake, even though it's quite close to home. I was amazed by the quality of the reflections; the surface was almost dead still. I think I might return there to do more reflection shots when summer comes a bit closer. Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jostein" Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 12:25 AM Subject: Re: PESO: Spring comes. Eventually. Hello Jostein, Most excellent work, as usual. An unusual composition for a reflection that is quite stunning. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, April 22, 2005, 2:17:31 PM, you wrote: J> A shot from today's stroll in the forest. J> http://oksne.net/paw/gryta.html J> All comments and critiques appreciated as usual. J> Thanks for looking. J> Jostein
Re: PESO: Spring comes. Eventually.
Thanks Frank. :-) Jostein - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 12:39 AM Subject: Re: PESO: Spring comes. Eventually. On 4/22/05, Jostein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A shot from today's stroll in the forest. http://oksne.net/paw/gryta.html All comments and critiques appreciated as usual. Thanks for looking. Jostein Absolutely stunning, Jostein! I love everything about it. Great shot. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO: Spring comes. Eventually.
Humble thanks, Boris. And you're right. This is my second spring this year. :-) It's still a bit early on here, but the fields are turning green fast now. Feels like a relief, really. The scents and the light... Sorry to hear about the hamsin "attack". Hope the winds turn soon. Don't get sand in the *istD...:-) Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://oksne.net/paw/gryta.html Jostein, you've been in the spring this year already :). Back in Russia we used to have a term "early spring" which I think would fit here... However here we're suffering from hamsins - sandy wind, +30 and above... So it is very refreshing to look at the work such as this... As usual, you're quite excellent :). Boris
About going commercial (was Re: PESO: Spring comes. Eventually.)
Suggesting commercial possibilities is a very generous comment, Mike. Humble thanks! To be honest, I've thought that over many times. There are so many pros and cons that it takes a lot of considering. Especially when one is already well established in another trade with a reliable income. One thing to worry about is of course the images themselves. Both quality and quantity. To earn a living, the quality must be reliably good, and there must be a certain volume of production to entertain potential customers. Whether it's renewal of stock photos or personal projects. By keeping photography as an hobby, one doesn't have to worry about such things. It is possible to enjoy shooting at every push on the release button, and just leave the button alone otherwise. Creativity doesn't have to be persistant. Another thing to worry about is how to sell one's own product. I just feel embarrassed when trying to promote myself or my photography to strangers. I imagine that to be a professional would be like having a job interview for every customer, and honestly can't stand the thought. A third thing to think about is the competition in the marketplace. All together, I can count on fingers the number of full-time professional nature photographers in this country, which tells something about how hard it is to keep on top of that market. The number of part-time pros, however, is quite high. People with one foot in advertising, for example, or working at the stock agencies. My job is not suited for part-time nature photography. :-( All that said, Last year, I set up a personal one-man enterprise _in case_ some business comes along. Nothing much has happened yet, though...:-)... but one never knows. There are some tax benefits in our system from this practice, and it sends a signal to potential customers about devotion to the hobby, at least. But I don't really have neither the guts or the merchant skills to pull off a photographic career. Jostein - Original Message - From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 4:39 PM Subject: Re: PESO: Spring comes. Eventually. On 4/22/05, Jostein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A shot from today's stroll in the forest. http://oksne.net/paw/gryta.html All comments and critiques appreciated as usual. Thanks for looking. Been there, seen that. Sadly, not with your eye. Sigh. 8-) Do you ever think of the commercial possibilities of your work? m
Re: PESO: Spring comes. Eventually.
Thanks, Rick and Paul. Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 1:11 AM Subject: Re: PESO: Spring comes. Eventually. I agree. Nice colorful reflection. And the ice adds an interesting dimension. Good work. On Apr 22, 2005, at 6:56 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Gorgeous, Jostein! I can't think of a way to improve it! Rick On 4/22/05, Jostein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A shot from today's stroll in the forest. http://oksne.net/paw/gryta.html All comments and critiques appreciated as usual. Thanks for looking. Jostein __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: GFM recap from 2004 - Bill Fortney
Might be an issue with differing regulations in Europe and the Americas. Helmets and goggles are mandatory here, but a colleague of mine has a license for small planes in USA, and she says the regulations are much less strict there. Jostein - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 4:04 PM Subject: Re: GFM recap from 2004 - Bill Fortney - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: GFM recap from 2004 - Bill Fortney Come to think of it, that might be against flying regulations, as would be flying without eye protection and secured helmet. They are flying ultralights. They don't have the same regulations as real airplanes. William Robb
Re: Re: GFM recap from 2004 - Bill Fortney
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wonder how many cameras they lost? I flinched when he opened the side of the underhung bag and then did a few course corrections before sliding the camera out, one-handed. Come to think of it, that might be against flying regulations, as would be flying without eye protection and secured helmet. My own question answered - at least one. The stone catcher net does its job http://www.trikepilot.com/images/billfortney/bftenreasons.wmv (25mb - put .mov at the end if that's your bag) LOL. Fortney told us about that camera. It actually worked afterwards...:-) Jostein
Re: OT: Journey of Man
- Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I dunno about you guys (n gals) but I come from a comet :-) The last survivor of Shoemaker-Levi. Which goes a long way to express his favourite exclamation "Jumping Jupiter"...:-) Jostein
PESO: Spring comes. Eventually.
A shot from today's stroll in the forest. http://oksne.net/paw/gryta.html All comments and critiques appreciated as usual. Thanks for looking. Jostein
Re: About going commercial (was Re: PESO: Spring comes. Eventually.)
- Original Message - From: "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . Creativity doesn't have to be persistant. :). Somehow you sound very much like Mike Johnston in one of his articles... Hmmm. Maybe I ought to start reading that guy's articles...:-) Fascinating. I never knew you can establish the enterprise without doing anything... I would presume, quite wrongly at that, that once you register you were supposed to produce some papers at the end of the year - to prove that you actually are doing something... Of course. There has to be some activity. However, they'll tolerate a couple of years of red numbers on the bottom line as long as you can reasonably argue that you're investing for the future. Like buying an *istD, for example...:-) But, Jostein, you still have all that is necessary to be an excellent amateur photographer, probably better than quite a number of so-called pro's out there :). Humble thanks, mate, but IMHO, everyone who find pleasure in taking pics has what it takes to be an excellent amateur photographer. The challenge and the joy of making progress in the craft is great fun no matter what "level" one is at. Cheers, Jostein
Re: Science World
- Original Message - From: "Mark Cassino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I've been doing a lot of stock photography over the last few years, and have settled in on scientific photography, mostly of insects, as a specialty. These days photo sales are fairly steady, though it's a constant struggle to get the volume and quality of sales up to the level needed. Coming from you, those words are worth heeding to! http://www.markcassino.com/temp/sw.jpg It's a great shot. Wish I had your kind of back yard, Mark...:-) Congrats on the publication too! Hope it goes some way to boost interest in your stock shots. Cheers, Jostein
Re: Rhythm of light
Very romantic. Nice lines in the composition too. Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: PESO: Rhythm of light Hi! http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=184086 SMC F 85/2.8 soft at f/4.5 or so... Boris
PESO: Spring bug
Looks like I've caught one. http://www.oksne.net/paw/springbug.html Not only on film, btw. Comments and criticism appreciated. Running back into the garden. :-) Cheers, Jostein
Re: Spring bug
I wrote: Not only on film, btw. That should read "...on chip", I 'spose. Jostein (waiting for 'tatters to boil)
Re: Viewfinder's
A=1: Ref. converter. You could possibly also get away with right-angle viewfinder or periscope eyepiece. :-) A=2: Pentax. What was Q=2 again? Jostein - Original Message - From: "MOY MACGILL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 9:14 PM Subject: Viewfinder's Q=1 Have you ever seen something that will let you change the angle to looking down? I saw one in an e-bay listing but they did not give a name to it. I could send the picture of the listing if that might help. Q=2 The best filter's to buy are ?
Re: OT: Take a course in philosophy, will ya.
Honestly, What *is* this thing about some americans and marxism? I thought this phobia was a thing of the cold war in the sixties and seventies... Jostein Quoting Collin R Brendemuehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > http://www.oekonux.org/texts/marketrelations.html > > and there's more, if you want to talk seriously. > > Collin > > > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: Viewfinder's
Moy, If you have a lot of lenses, or plan to expand your current number, you should also consider the system filters from makes like Cokin, Lee, Singh-Ray or Tiffen. With these systems, you buy cheaper filter holders for each lens, and use the same filter on all lenses. This way, you can invest more in good filters because you need only one of each type. System filter holders are also indispensible for gradient filters. Of the lot, I personally would recommend Singh-Ray filters and Cokin holders. Another option is step-up rings. Buy the screw-in filters you want in the size to fit your largest diametre lens, and buy step-up rings to adapt the smaller lenses to the filter size. hth, Jostein Quoting MOY MACGILL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I am trying to find the best brand's of filters to buy. I am finely able to > spend money,time so I would like to buy the best. I am collecting as many > opinions, so I can make an informed decisions. Many Thanks > > From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > To: > Subject: Re: Viewfinder's > Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:54:44 -0600 > > > - Original Message - From: "MOY MACGILL" > Subject: Viewfinder's > > > >Q=1 > >Have you ever seen something that will let you change the angle to looking > >down? I saw one in an e-bay listing but they did not give a name to it. I > >could send the picture of the listing if that might help. > > Ref converter, or if you have an LX, the finder base and action finder. > > > >Q=2 > >The best filter's to buy are ? > > Ones that you find useful. > > William Robb > > > > > > > > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: OT: Take a course in philosophy, will ya.
Quoting Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > American Marxist phobia is actually more a thing of the fifties and > sixties. It's really quite dead. However, there are little pockets of > folks with rather extreme views who keep it alive in bits and pieces, > here and there. That's probably true of any system of beliefs anywhere > in the world. Sadly, yes. I'd even opt for leaving out the "probably". :-( What puzzles me in this particular case is just the anachronistic nature of the phobia... :-) Cheers, Jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: OT: Take a course in philosophy, will ya.
Collin, May I humbly suggest that you pour out your "rational and reasoned concern" about GPL software propagating marxist ideas somewhere else? Dragging your religious views into it isn't exactly going to help your case either. best regards, Jostein - Original Message - From: "Collin Brendemuehl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 6:09 PM Subject: Re: OT: Take a course in philosophy, will ya. Quoting Jostein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Quoting Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > American Marxist phobia is actually more a thing of the fifties > > and > > sixties. It's really quite dead. However, there are little > > pockets of > > folks with rather extreme views who keep it alive in bits and > > pieces, > > here and there. That's probably true of any system of beliefs > > anywhere > > in the world. > > Sadly, yes. I'd even opt for leaving out the "probably". :-( > > What puzzles me in this particular case is just the anachronistic > nature of > the > phobia... :-) Obfuscating the discussion by talking about "free beer" only avoids the issue. The revolutionary era of the 60s stood out because of the violence. Maybe more recently people have heard of the Shining Path & Castro. Not long ago I went to the reasonably prestigous Ohio State University here in Columbus looking to enroll in the EE program. WRT the program, it's impressive. But in the broader curriculum was a required course. It was a course in dialectics. And on the shelf of the counselor I talked to was her notebook distinctly labelled "MARX". Unlikely it concerned old toys or movies. Marxism is a philosophy. Communism is a form of government derived from it. So is National Socialism. And western Socialism. All are "Marxist" by definition, in one component or another. Whether it's redistribution of wealth, egalitarianism, the "green" movement, the "peace" movement, whatever mechanism is its expression, the philosophy is the dominant perspective in most if not all governmental educational systems. When John Kerry would, in the last presidential campaign, speak of our government as a "democracy" and Bush would use the term "republic", the divergence of their world views was clarified. /* THE POINT */ To deny its existence because of a form adaptation is to miss the reality of its influence. It is endemic enough to be missed as it doesn't stand out as distinct. It is now dominant. /* THE POINT */ For those wanting to understand it in its simplicity, the clearest expression of a Marxist philosophy in pop culture would be John Lennon's "Imagine". As far as Christianity is involved, "The Challenge of Marxism" by Klaus Bockmuehl would be a good read. Published by Intervarsity Press. There is no phobia here. No irrational fear that they're going to invade my house and take all of my possessions. It's a rational and reasoned concern. Collin (subvert the dominant marxist) Brendemuehl Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net
Re: Really?
- Original Message - From: "Collin Brendemuehl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [regarding marxists and GPL] But I shall cease further comment on the matter. Thanks. That's the only thing I asked. Best regards, Jostein
Re: Digital is dead... Was: Film is dead...
- Original Message - From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I would hardly miss Jessops one bit. They destroyed a lot of damn good local camera shops. Their only store which stocks anything useful, and has knowledgeable staff, is the professional basement on New Oxford St. It would be a shame to see that go. -- Cheers, Bob Isn't the Classic Camera shop in Tottenham Court Road also a Jessops? That's surely a fun place to snoop around in. :-) Jostein
Re: OT: Take a course in philosophy, will ya.
ERN, I totally agree that everyone is entitled to an opinion. Since this thread goes on, I will post once more. Collin was quite clear about his opinions when he started this thread, and did not refer to any other thread in this forum. Knowing us, I'd say there probably was a reference, but without stating it I'm lost. I just don't have time to read all this list has to offer. :-) For a while, there was an entertaining discussion about GPL and Marxistic roots, but it took, IMHO, a rather nasty turn with Collin's last post. One thing I do remember about the science of philosophy from my own reading, is the importance of building one's thoughts in logical steps. If there are thoughts based on dogmas or assumtions, those should be explained. In his last post, Collin shared some personal experiences where he made a point of finding a book about Marx in the office of a professor teaching dialectics, and that the Democratic candidate at the last election talked about "democracy" where the Republican candidate talked about "republic"; neither of which I can understand why he finds worth mentioning as "rational and reasoned" indications of precence of marxistic thoughts in the heads of the professor or any of the candidates. On the contrary, he *assumes* that these tokens are indications of marxistic thoughts. He goes on to reason that since marxism is a philosophy, and governmental education programmes also are built on a philosophy, the education programmes are also marxist. While logically valid, it *assumes* that the philosophy is the same, which he goes no way to prove. Instead, he sets up a dogmatic "point", in capital letters: quote > /* THE POINT */ > To deny its [marxism] existence because of a form adaptation is > to miss the > reality of its influence. It is endemic enough to be missed as > it > doesn't stand out as distinct. It is now dominant. > /* THE POINT */ ---unquote--- I added the word in brackets. Since "the point" is funded on reasoning where the assumptions are not clearly made, it's only food for flame wars and not arguments to propagate a reasonable discussion. Also, he introduced religion with reference to a book that noone will have time to read while this discussion is still on, and without putting forward any logical connection between christianity and his thoughts so far. Therefore, I don't think I was being unfair to Collin when I kindly asked him to stop. Cheers, Jostein PS. The "free beer" argument was not mine, either. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Quoting Jostein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Collin, May I humbly suggest that you pour out your "rational and reasoned concern" about GPL software propagating marxist ideas somewhere else? Dragging your religious views into it isn't exactly going to help your case either. This hardly looks fair, Jostein. Wasn't Collin commenting on other people's posts, both about Marxism and Christianity? I think he's as entitled to express his opinions on those subjects as anyone else, as long as he's being polite about it, which he was. ERNR - Original Message ----- From: "Collin Brendemuehl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 6:09 PM Subject: Re: OT: Take a course in philosophy, will ya. >> Quoting Jostein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> > >> > Quoting Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> > >> > > American Marxist phobia is actually more a thing of the >> > > fifties >> > > and >> > > sixties. It's really quite dead. However, there are little >> > > pockets of >> > > folks with rather extreme views who keep it alive in bits >> > > and >> > > pieces, >> > > here and there. That's probably true of any system of >> > > beliefs >> > > anywhere >> > > in the world. >> > >> > Sadly, yes. I'd even opt for leaving out the "probably". :-( >> > >> > What puzzles me in this particular case is just the >> > anachronistic >> > nature of >> > the >> > phobia... :-) >> > > Obfuscating the discussion by talking about "free beer" only > avoids > the issue. > > The revolutionary era of the 60s stood out because of the > violence. > Maybe more recently people have heard of the Shining Path & > Castro. > > Not long ago I went to the reasonably prestigous Ohio State > University here in Columbus looking to enroll in the EE program. > WRT the program, it's impressive. > > But in the broader
Re: OT: Take a course in philosophy, will ya.
Quoting frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > John, > > This is a photography list. > > Take your food-talk elsewhere, please. It's only going to start > another flame-war... > LOL. But you have to break eggs to make an omelette. :-) Jostein (this is becoming entertaining again!) This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: OT: Take a course in philosophy, will ya.
Thanks, Frank.
As you say, the enemy of the cold war era was dismantled in the eighties. IIRC,
Gorbatchev rose to power and started the glasnost exactly 20 years ago. That's
why I would call it an anachronism.
One science philosopher (his name escapes me at the moment) claim that
scientific paradigmas do not shift because a better theory comes along, but
because the proponents of the old theory die out. :-)
If that is transferrable to this discussion it's probably too early to call it
an anachronism yet. It's just that it feels that way. :-)
Cheers,
Jostein
Quoting frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Okay, I know I shouldn't, but I'll wade in on this discussion (I've
> been resisting so far...).
>
> What one has to remember, is that the Red Scare in the 50's and 60's
> was a fear of Russia and it's satellite states ("The Soviet Block",
> the "Iron Curtain", whatever you want to call it). I guess one could
> throw the People's Republic of China in there, but realistically, they
> weren't a threat.
>
> Soviet Russia called itself Communist. It called itself Marxist and
> Marxist-Leninist. It was none of those things. There was a Marxist
> or Communist revolution there in 1917, but it didn't take long before
> it stalled. I don't remember much about Marxism, but I seem to recall
> that it's only workable if it's a world-wide phenomenon. Once Lenin
> died and Trotsky was ousted by Stalin, the counter-revolution was
> complete. With Trotsky out of the picture, Stalin turned inward, and
> decided to build Russia's economy rather than export the revolution.
> Russia was a centralist state-capitalist dictatorship. It remained so
> until dismantled in the late 1980's.
>
> The cold war had little to do with political ideologies, it had to do
> with military domination and spheres of influence and keeping the
> military-industrial machine in high-gear after WWII. What better way
> than to continue with an arms race? The US also knew that the Russian
> economy wasn't nearly as strong as it seemed, and that by engaging in
> an arms race it would bankrupt Russia.
>
> But, after years and years of equating Marxism and Communism with the
> Russian system, and after years of being told it was evil, many in the
> West have come to loathe the words, without really knowing much about
> the political philosophy.
>
> Old habits die hard. I disagree with Paul WRT to the Red Scare being
> over in the US. We've seen some of it here in this discussion.
> Words like Marxist and Socialist and even Liberal are currently used
> as epithets in the current political climate on the US.
>
> Anyway, I'm not espousing any views here (or trying not to), but
> rather provide a brief history lesson WRT Jostein's question. Hope I
> haven't trampled on anyone's feathers.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
> --
> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
>
>
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Re: OT: Take a course in philosophy, will ya.
Quoting Collin R Brendemuehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I dropped out a long time ago. > Healthy debate can be fun. For some. > But it's often taken personally by others. > And the attacks become personal assults, > coupled with presumption built on presumption. > It does get tiring after a while. LOL! Something to do with people's attention span, I think. I can imagine bystanders saying that's why philosophy doesn't suit us. :-) Jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
RE: Boris' workflow (was Concerned)
Quoting Don Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > This is more of a question than an answer since I'm just > about totally new to PS myself but: > Isn't having to work in 8 bit mode a sure way to lose some > of the more subtle transitions that Boris is seeking to > preserve? > Absolutely. In my experience, it's also worthwhile to convert 8 bit images to 16 bit before editing them. If doing any Lossy processing (eg. rotation), then the loss will be less because the recalculations are done with more accurate numbers. Jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: Concerned
Quoting Collin R Brendemuehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Perhaps one should also consider the difference in sensor mask. > Each company uses a different mask for moire control. > A local camera shop make a clear statement to me that every > series of Canon produces a different image characteristic. I have a faint memory about moiré control being more of an issue with CCD than with CMOS. It might be something I read in a comparison between Canon 1Ds and Kodak DCS Pro. Jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: OT: Take a course in philosophy, will ya.
The philosopher was Thomas Kuhn, professor at Berkley, California.
http://www.emory.edu/EDUCATION/mfp/Kuhnsnap.html
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/thomas-kuhn/
Jostein
Quoting Graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I believe it is stated this way, Jostein:
>
> "The new way" does not become "the way" until the last person who knew "the
> old way" dies.
>
> graywolf
> http://www.graywolfphoto.com
> "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
> ---
>
>
> Jostein wrote:
> > Thanks, Frank.
> > As you say, the enemy of the cold war era was dismantled in the eighties.
> IIRC,
> > Gorbatchev rose to power and started the glasnost exactly 20 years ago.
> That's
> > why I would call it an anachronism.
> >
> > One science philosopher (his name escapes me at the moment) claim that
> > scientific paradigmas do not shift because a better theory comes along,
> but
> > because the proponents of the old theory die out. :-)
> >
> > If that is transferrable to this discussion it's probably too early to call
> it
> > an anachronism yet. It's just that it feels that way. :-)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jostein
> >
> > Quoting frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >
> >>Okay, I know I shouldn't, but I'll wade in on this discussion (I've
> >>been resisting so far...).
> >>
> >>What one has to remember, is that the Red Scare in the 50's and 60's
> >>was a fear of Russia and it's satellite states ("The Soviet Block",
> >>the "Iron Curtain", whatever you want to call it). I guess one could
> >>throw the People's Republic of China in there, but realistically, they
> >>weren't a threat.
> >>
> >>Soviet Russia called itself Communist. It called itself Marxist and
> >>Marxist-Leninist. It was none of those things. There was a Marxist
> >>or Communist revolution there in 1917, but it didn't take long before
> >>it stalled. I don't remember much about Marxism, but I seem to recall
> >>that it's only workable if it's a world-wide phenomenon. Once Lenin
> >>died and Trotsky was ousted by Stalin, the counter-revolution was
> >>complete. With Trotsky out of the picture, Stalin turned inward, and
> >>decided to build Russia's economy rather than export the revolution.
> >>Russia was a centralist state-capitalist dictatorship. It remained so
> >>until dismantled in the late 1980's.
> >>
> >>The cold war had little to do with political ideologies, it had to do
> >>with military domination and spheres of influence and keeping the
> >>military-industrial machine in high-gear after WWII. What better way
> >>than to continue with an arms race? The US also knew that the Russian
> >>economy wasn't nearly as strong as it seemed, and that by engaging in
> >>an arms race it would bankrupt Russia.
> >>
> >>But, after years and years of equating Marxism and Communism with the
> >>Russian system, and after years of being told it was evil, many in the
> >>West have come to loathe the words, without really knowing much about
> >>the political philosophy.
> >>
> >>Old habits die hard. I disagree with Paul WRT to the Red Scare being
> >>over in the US. We've seen some of it here in this discussion.
> >>Words like Marxist and Socialist and even Liberal are currently used
> >>as epithets in the current political climate on the US.
> >>
> >>Anyway, I'm not espousing any views here (or trying not to), but
> >>rather provide a brief history lesson WRT Jostein's question. Hope I
> >>haven't trampled on anyone's feathers.
> >>
> >>cheers,
> >>frank
> >>
> >>--
> >>"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: PESO-WOW--Appalachians
Whoah... that was really blue. I downloaded the file from PhotoNet and opened it in photoshop. There's almost no detail in the blue channel at all. The whole canvas is smooth except the highlights. Did you, by any chance, use Tungsten white balance? Jostein - Original Message - From: "Rick Womer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 12:57 AM Subject: PESO-WOW--Appalachians A couple of weeks ago I found myself heading to Dallas at 7am and 34,000 feet. This ridge of the Appalachian Mountains appealed to me, so I dug out the Optio 33L and took several shots. After lots of work to restore something like the original contrast and color in PSE2, here is what I have: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3315486 Somehow, it lacks something. Any suggestions? Should one just forget about photos from airplane windows? Rick __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Concerned
IIRC, the kodak was the moire-ridden one...:-) Jostein - Original Message - From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 5:16 AM Subject: Re: Concerned I've heard this said many times but I've never seen anything that proves it. I can't see anything in my 10D exposures that would prove it either ... or can I? Godfrey On Apr 27, 2005, at 5:40 PM, Herb Chong wrote: in the Pentax DSLRs. Canon and Nikon do some in-camera processing anyway. Herb - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 2:10 PM Subject: Re: Concerned In camera sharpness, contrast, and saturation settings are irrelevant if you're shooting RAW.
Re: OT: New Toy
Quoting Collin R Brendemuehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > To pay for it, I'll part with the 12" Ilex. Any interest? What's a 12" Ilex? Jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: OT: New Toy
- Original Message - From: "Kostas Kavoussanakis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To pay for it, I'll part with the 12" Ilex. Any interest? What's a 12" Ilex? And how many units in a bill? You mean ivory-bills? Jostein
Re: Why and How I switched to Canon (for those who care) long
IIRC, there are 5 FA zooms in the 645 lineup where 3 are f/4.5 and 2 are f/5.6 Of the primes, the following are f/2.8: 45mm, 55mm, 75mm, 150mm, and the 75mm and 150mm leaf-shutter lenses. Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 3:28 AM Subject: Re: Why and How I switched to Canon (for those who care) long The 645D is 18 megapixel. AS medium format lenses go, the Pentax glass is adequately fast. I know there's a 165/2.8 and a 105/2.4 on the 6x7 side. I'm sure there are some equally fast lenses available in 645 mount.
Re: PESOs
Hmmm... Think I've seen those kids before... The first one seems to have less of a blue cast than the previous of the same model, the "red for danger" shot. http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/pcat/101540/display/2593413 The fisheye shot makes me dizzy (ok, I'm well through my second pint of "Spitfire"). The third one amuse me...:-) Maybe because I can imagine the reaction from the model...:-) Jostein - Original Message - From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 8:00 PM Subject: PESOs Bored at home, so I did some scanning. Here are some of the results for your delectation. Enjoy and comment if you see fit. I'm still having problems getting the pictures suitably sized for the fotocom site. http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/channel/50/extra/new/display/3042978 http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/channel/50/extra/new/display/3042997 http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/channel/50/extra/new/display/3043008 mike
Re: Photoshop Questions
Hi Joe, Yes, I think it will run nicely on an Athlon. I've never heard of any processor compatibility issues with AMD and Photoshop. The processor frequency is certainly no problem. When travelling, I run CS off a Intel Centrino 1,1 GHz. Hope building your new machine goes smoothly. Jostein - Original Message - From: "Joseph Tainter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pdml" Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 10:37 PM Subject: Photoshop Questions Does anyone know if either CS or CS 2 will run okay on an AMD Athlon 1.33 Ghz processor? Adobe refuses to answer an e-mail question about this. Instead I am referred to the web site, where (for CS) only Intel processors are listed. This includes Pentium IV, which is equivalent to the above Athlon. I can find no information about CS. Preparation for my XP installation is coming along, slowly. What a &*#^%@)!!! nuisance. Next I figure out what to do with 3,000 or so e-mails. Thanks, everyone. Joe
PESO: Spore capsule
All comments appreciated. http://oksne.net/paw/IMGP6258-sporehus.html Thanks for looking, too. Jostein
Re: PESO: Spore capsule
Hi Markus, I think I agree with you that the OOF objects on the left can be a bit disturbing. Cropping didn't cross my mind last night, but I'll look into it. Thanks for the comment. The working distance was about 6-7 centimeters. Just did a check with a ruler at approximately the same extension with the bellows. According to a scale on the bellows, the magnification was about 2.5:1. The flash was in TTL mode. The compensation automatically goes into limiting the flash power. The only real PITA with working like this is stop-down metering. It was really hard to tell whether the subject was in focus or not. The presented shot was the fourth attempt...:-) Jostein - Original Message - From: "Markus Maurer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 1:22 AM Subject: RE: PESO: Spore capsule Hi Jostein a very nice capture of such a small object. I find the background to the left a bit disturbing, maybe a tight upright format crop would look better. May I ask: how close was your shooting distance to the capsules? Did you use TTL flash and -2 EV compensation? thanks Markus -Original Message- From: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 11:41 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Spore capsule All comments appreciated. http://oksne.net/paw/IMGP6258-sporehus.html Thanks for looking, too. Jostein
Re: PESO: Spore capsule
Hi Boris, - Original Message - From: "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://oksne.net/paw/IMGP6258-sporehus.html If I were seeing you in person, my friend, I would simply smile and say - can you go even smaller? LOL. I can imagine the twinkle in your eye...:-) Now, I actually like these two out of focus objects on the left. They seem to prove that this wasn't taken in the controlled environment :). Good point. Maybe they should be muted a bit, though. I'll try both that and some cropping, like Markus suggested. There is something very fascinating about this image. No, it has nothing to do with Plasticity (TM) :). You see, the capsule that is in focus has these bright highlights on it. The one that is more uniformly lit is out of focus. I'd rather it was this way: the left capsule is in focus and is uniformly lit. The other one could have some highlight and be out of focus... Do I make sense? You make sense to me. When I first saw the pics on the screen it struck me that I will need a diffuser for the flash. With re: the focus point... well, the moss is still there... :-) However, as it is, I would still print it and see how it look "way larger than life" proportion :). Well... I don't consider it an exhibition shot, really... :-) Cheers, Jostein
Re: Apples and Oranges (was Re: Why and How I switched to Canon (for those who care) long)
Interestingly, my friends will tolerate it if I use a digital projector to show pictures off a computer, but think that slides is a drag. Go figure...:-) Jostein - Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> And getting ahead of myself, for get slide projection, get with it, this ancient practice is only resurrected during camera club competition nights. No friends of mine would tolerate an evening of me subjecting them to a slide night, they will however flick though a couple of hundred digital image in front of my monitor, and often request prints. Maybe it's just a generational gap but I really can't see what all the fuss is about, the pro-sumer digital capture to print process even at this stage is equal to any average analogue process and IMHO will exceed the best analogue process capabilities in a short time. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: PESO: Spore capsule
- Original Message - From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://oksne.net/paw/IMGP6258-sporehus.html Are they in love? 8-) Why compensation - really, was that exposure or flash? It needs just another 1/2 mm DOF, IMHO. LOL. All of a moss plant is haploid, except the spores, remember? :-) The Pentax way of flash compensation is by dialling it in on the camera house. Set the shutter to flash sync, and the compensation goes into calculating the flash power. I agree about the DOF, but couldn't get there at this magnification. The only solution would be less magnification and cropping. Jostein
Re: PESO: Spore capsule
I wrote: LOL. All of a moss plant is haploid, except the spores, remember? :-) Duh... Better stop bragging before anyone discovers that I make a fool of myself. If anyone actually cares, drop me a line privately and I'll explain. I'll keep the biology terms off list hereafter. :-( Jostein
PESO: Lynx mother
Something from last summer. http://www.oksne.net/paw/lynx.html All comments appreciated, and thanks for looking. Jostein
Re: PESO: Spore capsule
Thanks Mark, It's certainly one of those subjects that are easy to overlook. :-) Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: "Mark Cassino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 5:59 PM Subject: Re: PESO: Spore capsule Nice composition - not a subject one sees everyday either. - MCC - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Jostein wrote: All comments appreciated. http://oksne.net/paw/IMGP6258-sporehus.html Thanks for looking, too. Jostein
Re: OT HHGTTG
Gee, I hope it finds the way to a cinema near me soon! Jostein - Original Message - From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:15 PM Subject: OT HHGTTG Hi, Not to give too much away but: 1. the film bears only a passing resemblance to the radio series, books TV or record. It's actually a more coherent whole... 2. it's worth waiting through the credits, no matter how much of a saddo that makes you appear. I only did it because I wanted to see if the title song was written by Eric Idle (no) and had a pleasant suprise. Enjoy
Re: Lynx mother
Thanks Christian, Yes, I had to shoot through (plexi)glass. To minimize the effect of it, I nudged myself to a spot without too many scratches, and put the lens hood onto the glass. Jostein - Original Message - From: "Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 8:16 PM Subject: Re: Lynx mother - Original Message - From: "Jostein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 1:53 PM Subject: PESO: Lynx mother Something from last summer. http://www.oksne.net/paw/lynx.html Awesome! Very well captured. Did you have to shoot through glass? Christian
Re: PESO: Lynx mother
- Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.oksne.net/paw/lynx.html Stunning work mate. Those eyes are unbelievable. Thanks, mate. :-) Jostein
Re: PESO: Lynx mother
LOL... Well... -What Robb said about the neck. :-) Thanks, Keith. Jostein - Original Message - From: "Keith Whaley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 8:48 PM Subject: Re: PESO: Lynx mother Oww, OWWW! The NECK, okay?! Sheesh! Love it! Great catch, sir! Keith Cotty wrote: On 2/5/05, Jostein, discombobulated, unleashed: Something from last summer. http://www.oksne.net/paw/lynx.html All comments appreciated, and thanks for looking. Jostein Stunning work mate. Those eyes are unbelievable. Cheers, Cotty
Re: PESO: Lynx mother
What made her look my way was a schoolclass of Finnish kids yelling and knocking on the plexglass wall...:-) She was generally as ignorant of our presence as only cats can be. Jostein - Original Message - From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:37 PM Subject: Re: PESO: Lynx mother Jostein wrote: Something from last summer. http://www.oksne.net/paw/lynx.html All comments appreciated, and thanks for looking. Well spotted [8-)] especially the background. Was this one of a series? She seems to know you are there and I wondered if it was the shutter noise that made her look at you. m
Re: PESO: Lynx mother
Thanks, Frank. If this was in the wild, I don't think I would have got away to show it...:-) At least not if those eyes convey what I think they do: "Hey, don't mess with my kids, okay?" Jostein - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 1:11 AM Subject: Re: PESO: Lynx mother On 5/2/05, Jostein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Something from last summer. http://www.oksne.net/paw/lynx.html All comments appreciated, and thanks for looking. It looks like it was taken in the wild! Great capture, love the lighting (the dark background made me think you used fill-flash). Gorgeous shot! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO: Lynx mother
Thank you, Liberman's! Tell Galia the little one is as big as a full grown cat. Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 6:52 AM Subject: Re: PESO: Lynx mother Hi! Something from last summer. http://www.oksne.net/paw/lynx.html All comments appreciated, and thanks for looking. Galia: What a small kitty!!! Grownups - well done :). Boris
Re: PESO: Lynx mother
- Original Message - From: "Ann Sanfedele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.oksne.net/paw/lynx.html I just hopped back on list and glad I did - damn,jostein - to good! perfect! Thanks, Ann. Gald you stopped by. If you stay tuned for a couple of days, I'm sure there will be some gathering pics for you from the PDMLondon as well. Cheers, Jostein
Re: PESO: Lynx mother
Thanks Markus, The background is in deep shade from a cliff overhang. I think there's also a small cave back there. At least that's where she picked up the kittens from. Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: "Hans Imglueck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 8:00 AM Subject: Re: PESO: Lynx mother Hi, really incredible shot. Focus is perfectly on the eyes. Lovely scene! Why is the background that black? It supports the lynx mamas head, but looks on the other hand like a flash has been used what is obviously not the case. Thanks for posting! Best regards, Hans. Something from last summer. http://www.oksne.net/paw/lynx.html All comments appreciated, and thanks for looking. Jostein -- Hans Imglueck +++ Lassen Sie Ihren Gedanken freien Lauf... z.B. per FreeSMS +++ GMX bietet bis zu 100 FreeSMS/Monat: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/mail
Re: PESO: Lynx mother
Thanks Paul, Yes, I think there are Significant Moments to animal portraiture as well. I have a couple of others too, but it was only in this one that everything clicked. Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 8:04 PM Subject: Re: PESO: Lynx mother Good capture. Looks like you grabbed this one at just the right moment. Wonderful color and detail. I like it. Paul Something from last summer. http://www.oksne.net/paw/lynx.html All comments appreciated, and thanks for looking. Jostein
Re: PESO: Lynx mother
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well done! Humble thanks, Shel. Jostein
Re: PESO: Lynx mother
Thanks Kenneth, That's what struck me too. Btw, my son (12 yo) just came in wondering what I was doing, and I showed him the picture. He spontaneously commented on the eyes as well. "Looks like she says 'dont touch my cub' ", he said. Jostein - Original Message - From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 8:16 PM Subject: Re: PESO: Lynx mother Well seen & captured. Wouldn't change a thing. What really makes this is the mom's look. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Jostein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: May 2, 2005 1:53 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Lynx mother Something from last summer. http://www.oksne.net/paw/lynx.html All comments appreciated, and thanks for looking. Jostein PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: PESO: Lynx mother
Thanks Rick, I think the Helsinki zoo must be caring very well for their animals. They manage to make most of their larger mammals breed in captivity. They also have a good record for making birds of prey breeding there, which IMO is even more impressive. Most of the animals we saw (some had retired to more private parts of their enclosures) had something I would call "species integrity". I don't know quite how to describe it. The large enclosures also make for very natural looking shots. Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: "Rick Womer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:39 PM Subject: Re: PESO: Lynx mother Whenever I shoot animals in zoos, they look like animals in zoos. This, on the other hand, is beautiful. Rick --- Jostein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Something from last summer. http://www.oksne.net/paw/lynx.html All comments appreciated, and thanks for looking. Jostein __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO: Lynx mother
Thanks William. Jostein - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 1:08 AM Subject: Re: PESO: Lynx mother Bravo!! William Robb
Re: PESO: Lynx mother
Thanks Tom, Shooting animals in zoos usually makes me feel sorry for the animals, but I was quite impressed with the Helsniki zoo concept. It was much akin to the animal habitats at Grandfather Mountain, btw. Jostein - Original Message - From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:41 PM Subject: RE: PESO: Lynx mother Nice shot Jostein. I typically distain zoo photos. but this one is very nice and has much appeal. Tom C. From: Jostein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Lynx mother Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 19:53:35 +0200 Something from last summer. http://www.oksne.net/paw/lynx.html All comments appreciated, and thanks for looking. Jostein
Re: OT HHGTTG
- Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Oh crikey. Attention London PDMLers, if you could all bring a towel please. LOL. Don't forget to soak one corner with anti-depressants. Jostein
Re: OT - Chelsea v Liverpool
I think that London team has won more than what's good for them this year...:-) Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pentax list" Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 8:22 PM Subject: OT - Chelsea v Liverpool COME ON YOU BLUES! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Moral Dilemma
Shaun, If your wife is any bit like mine, the opposition against cameras is basically a mild jealousy over the time you spend with it, instead of assisting her with the kid. :-) In the long term, this will pass as the kids grow out of their diapers. In the short term, bring the camera. You must never confirm her theory that it's _either_ family _or_ camera. take ample of shots of the kid, enjoy outdoors photography while taking the lad for a stroll (especially when he sleeps in the stroller), volunteer for some (not all...) extra diaper changes, feeding, etc. To all London DPML'ers, Please don't mention this mail to Vera in the coming week-end. :-) Cheers, Jostein Quoting Shaun Canning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North Queensland > with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me to > take *ist D etc. What do I do? Do I: > > 1. Leave camera at home, > 2. Leave wife and son at home, > 3. Take son and leave wife, > 4. Justify buying a new compact digicam because our S50 can't come close to > replicating the results of the *istD, or > 5. Throw a tantrum. > > I am really confused > > :-) > > Shaun > > > Dr. Shaun Canning > Cultural Heritage Services > 11 Lawrence Way > Karratha, Western Australia, > 6714 > > 0414-967644 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.heritageservices.com.au > > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: Moral Dilemma
- Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> HAR. A crack into which a crowbar will take purchase.. Now don't make me peckish... Drinks are on you! Uh-oh. Have mercy! Imagine how much Pentax gear I would have to sell of to finance that! Jostein
Re: Re: Moral Dilemma
- Original Message - From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yy!!! Drinks are on Jostein! Okay, here's for another moral dilemma: Sell my gear to finance a thirst quench for these rabid PDML'ers, AND having to explain that to the wife in a plausible way; or, Show her the mail I sent to Shaun. Hmmm... Afraid you'll end up thirsty, guys...:-) Che... greetings, Jostein
Re: Feeling inadequate (was: Why and How I switched to Canon)
You'll get over it, Rob. My ancestors stopped their RAIDs eight hundred years ago. Jostein - Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 3:48 AM Subject: Feeling inadequate (was: Why and How I switched to Canon) On 3 May 2005 at 21:22, Herb Chong wrote: i have much more than Paul has, 1.2 terabyte RAID array. i've always stored my slide and RAW images at about 60-70 megabytes whenever possible. some images have been cropped or otherwise are not suitable for double resolution are stored at native resolution. the slide scans are native at 60-70 megabytes. My server RAID is only 0.75TB :-( Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
In transit
Hi gang, Just firing up for London PDML. Currently awaiting flight ascention in Oslo Airport.:-) Only 121 new PDML mails since last night, 8 hours ago. LOL Cheers, Jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
RE: Moral Dilemma
LOL! Well, what can I do, with friends like Cotty and Mike...:-) Cheers, Jostein Quoting Shaun Canning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I don't know how she does it Jostein...but it looks like my wife has even > managed to cost you money! She's very good at it! > > Cheers > > Shaun > > Dr. Shaun Canning > Cultural Heritage Services > 11 Lawrence Way > Karratha, Western Australia, > 6714 > > 0414-967644 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.heritageservices.com.au > > -Original Message- > From: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 9:54 PM > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: Moral Dilemma > > > - Original Message - > From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > HAR. A crack into which a crowbar will take purchase.. > > Now don't make me peckish... > > > Drinks are on you! > > Uh-oh. > > Have mercy! > Imagine how much Pentax gear I would have to sell of to finance that! > > Jostein > > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
PESO: London PDML
Scrambled together some pics for a gallery today. http://www.oksne.net/ Look in the menu on the left. Thanks to Cotty for pulling the cart, and to all the others for making a good cheer all day. It was great. Next time in the zoo or Kew gardens? No problem. Would love to be there. Cheers, Jostein
Re: RE: PESO: London PDML
Thanks Mike. John Dory it was. :-) Image count at 6321? Yes that's right. Never had any large production with film either. Jostein - Original Message - From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 10:27 AM Subject: Re: RE: PESO: London PDML >>Scrambled together some pics for a gallery today. >> >>http://www.oksne.net/ >>Look in the menu on the left. Hi, Image 6321 [is that all? or are you second time around. 8-)] is a John Dory. http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/fish/printouts/Johndoryprintout.shtml mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
RE: LONDON PDML 2005 more pics up
It's a lava-lamp. That's how they illuminate the city on Friday nights. Jostein Quoting Amita Guha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > <http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/photoessays/essays/london.html> > > Beautiful shots, Cotty! By the way, what is that bullet-shaped building in > the "The River Thames" shot? > > Amita > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: reverse mounting lenses
Hi David, The recessed front element is no problem. I have used the FA 100/2.8 macro, which also has a recessed front element. No problems at all. Don't know if it gives any benefits, though. The only good way to deal with vignetting is by extension tubes or bellows. You will always get vignetting with wide-angle lenses. I paired the 100mm with an FA*24/2 which has a larger front element than the 100mm, but still got vignetting. If you use the 50mm reversed before the 90mm, your total magnification will be 1.8x. With the 28, you'll get 3.2x. That's quite a difference... John Shaw, in the book "Closeups in nature", writes that the best lens he's come across for reversal is a 200/2.8 in combination with various lenses reversed. He recommends a 50mm. He recommends against stacking two macro lenses together. While John Shaw is a Nikon shooter, I think he's on to something about the focal lengths. Recently I tried to reverse an FA 50/1.4 in front of an A* 200/4 macro, and the result was a lot better than the 24mm/100mm combo. hth, Jostein - Original Message - From: "David Zaninovic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 5:05 PM Subject: Re: reverse mounting lenses > Is F50/1.7 front element large enough to be reverse mounted on > top of Tamron SP90/2.8 ? SMC-M 28/2.8 works only when Tamron is set > to f2.8, beyond that I get vignetting. Which lens is recommended > for reverse mounting ? It all depends on thread size. Just use step-up/step-down rings to make them mate. mating is not a problem I have plenty of duct tape. if you get vignetting, you need to add extension tubes between the camera body and the prime lens. this will eliminate it. > > I see that it helps if I focus the Tamron as close as possible > but not by much. Is it good or bad the fact that Tamron has deeply > recessed front element ? You should always focus as close as possible. yes, that seems to help but not as much as I would like. I think that front element on the 28/2.8 is just to small. I will get F50/1.7 in a few days and will try with that lens. Again, extension tubes are a big help. Tamron is already a 1:1 macro lens so it has its own extension tube which is very long. I noticed that there is not so much difference if I focus at infinity or as close as possible, there is a difference but not more that few f-stops before it starts to vignette. So If I add even more extension I don't think it will help much as I could end up with ridiculously long tube. Or adding extension is something different from what the Tamron is already doing, it is possible as rear element on Tamron is fixed and it is right at the end of the lens. It shouldn't matter that the tamron has a recessed front element. Strange that it does not make any difference. Check out John Shaw's "Closeups in Nature" A great book with all kinds of techniques for macro. That is the only photography book I have. :) I guess I should take a look if there is anything that could help me, I did not think of that. :)
Re: reverse mounting lenses
David, See between your lines: - Original Message - From: "David Zaninovic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: How much extension did you had to add to that macro lens ? About 100mm. Note that I used it with the *istD, which needs less extension to avoid vignetting than a full-framed film camera. You also focused the macro as close as possible, right ? Yes. Were you able to shoot at f11-f22 without vignetting ? Had to. DOF is miniscule at >4x. (shooting snow crystals) Does the extension that you add have more effect than the built-in extension or it is the same thing ? Doesn't matter, you'll need both with the 28mm. Is the rear element on the FA 100/2.8 fixed or it moves depending on the focus ? Fixed. It has nothing to say with re. vignetting, afaik. I see that the built-in extension on my lens has very little difference in regard to vignetting so I am afraid that I would have to add to much extension tubes which would be unmanageable. There's no free lunch. :-) If you plan to work from the top of a tripod, you should consider other options than stacked lenses. A reverse adapter and a 28mm will give you 2x right out of the box and a much less fiddly combo to work with. If you can live with stopping down your lens manually. Mark Cassino has done some wonderful macro stuff with a reversed 50mm. Check out http://www.markcassino.com. Is there any automatic extension tubes that would pass the electrical contacts as well as aperture control so I can keep P-TTL. Pentax flashes can deliver TTL even with screw-mount lenses, but don't have any hopes for P-TTL. hth, Jostein
Re: reverse mounting lenses
- Original Message - From: "David Zaninovic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I would like to have P-TTL because of the wireless high speed flash option on my D. I will try to find some tubes that will transfer electrical contacts. It is much easier to shoot bugs handheld with flash set to 1/4000 speed and have a few tries to get the focus right. P-TTL creates a long flash burst that allows a short shutter speed. With ordinary TTL flash, the shutter opens, and the needed flash light is applied. I'm not sure whether P-TTL gives an edge here, but I suspect that it's easier to make flashes that way. For practical purposes it doesn't matter whether you freeze the action with a 1/4000s shutter speed, or a 1/4000s flash duration, as long as ambient light is more than 4 stops dimmer than the flash burst. If bugs are your target, I think the 50mm/90mm combo will probably suffice. With 1.8x a 10mm bug becomes 18mm across the CCD. That'll give you plenty of detail. Whichever solution you end up with, I hope you find one that makes you happy with the pics you get. Would be fun if you posted some on the web for us see, too. :-) Cheers, Jostein
Re: reverse mounting lenses
You're right, Leon. I forgot to think about flying insects. :-) Jostein - Original Message - From: "Leon Mlakar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:14 PM Subject: RE: reverse mounting lenses Wireless flash and P-TTL are both useful but not essential. HSS, contrary to what you implied, is not a good idea for stopping a motion. At the speeds beyond the flash sync speed the shutter is never completely open, hence a single flash pulse cannot expose entire frame. HSS works by delivering a series of light pulses that are sync'ed with movement of the gap in the shutter that let's the light to the film/CCD. This means that the fast moving subject is "frozen" several times with several light pulses. HSS is only good for fill flash on a sunny day if you want to shoot open to reduce DOF. To freeze the motion you're much better off using shutter speeds lower than the sync speed. Remember, the duration of a single flash pulse is 1/2000th of a second or less, depending on how much light is necessary. If you stop down enough, the fast moving parts (wings?) of the subject will not get recorded on the film/CCD so you'll see no blur. See http://webs.lanset.com/rcochran/flash/hss.html for some examples and more technical details. Leon -Original Message- From: David Zaninovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 5:38 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: reverse mounting lenses Pentax flashes can deliver TTL even with screw-mount lenses, but don't have any hopes for P-TTL. I would like to have P-TTL because of the wireless high speed flash option on my D. I will try to find some tubes that will transfer electrical contacts. It is much easier to shoot bugs handheld with flash set to 1/4000 speed and have a few tries to get the focus right.
Re: reverse mounting lenses
Gee... How did Canon make it's way into this thread? I think PDML is being subverted...:-) Jostein - Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 10:36 PM Subject: Re: reverse mounting lenses Interesting but not surprising, M42 lenses are more compatible with Canon EOS than Canon TX lenses are... David Zaninovic wrote: It is interesting that Vivitar tubes are more compatible with Pentax cameras than Pentax tubes. :) - Original Message - From: "David Zaninovic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 11:41 AM Subject: Re: reverse mounting lenses This is what I need to make it work. Thanks Christian and Jostein for very extensive answers. I used the Vivitar auto extension tube set that have full meter and aperture coupling. They don't make them anymore but i believe the Kenko tubes are the same (they LOOK identical). Turns out the vivitar tubes are still available from B&H anyway: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=61535&is=REG Notice all the contacts. Not a bad price either. Christian -- A man's only as old as the woman he feels. --Groucho Marx
Re: Rule of thirds? Was Re: PESO: Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em
- Original Message - From: "UncaMikey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I know exactly what you mean. It can be a marvelous combination of the coldly analytical with the inexplicably irrational. LOL... That could have been a Douglas Adams quote... Cheers, Jostein (still looking for his towel)
Re: London PDML 2005
- Original Message - From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kostas (what lens is on the -D and what on the Z-1p?) Cath did that one. Don't know with the D and M50/1.4 on the Z. Nice shots Mike. I suspect the lens on the D is a FA 20/2.8. As for the last shot, I see you got tickets for the DUCKW anyway? :-) Jostein
