Re: The Photographer's Rights
- Original Message - From: "Bob Blakely" Subject: Re: The Photographer's Rights I'm afraid there's a difference between "I bet" and "I would bet". Yes. The second is a lie. You did not, so you wouldn't. But it's the kind of bait we all use at one time or another. C'mon Bob, it's called careful semantics. It's something you are a master at, I'm surprised you didn't recognize it. William Robb
Re: OT: Who is behind the scene of Komkon hosting P*G (was: Recommended SD Cards
- Original Message - From: "Igor Roshchin" Subject: Re: OT: Who is behind the scene of Komkon hosting P*G (was: Recommended SD Cards Both Americas are on the left site of [old] England. (well, at least when you look on a standard map :-P) ) :-) I think you have to go farther right to get to America, rather than left.. HAR!! William Robb
Tamron Sp 300mm f/5.6
It appears this lens has found a new home. Thank you for the interest. William Robb
Re: The Photographer's Rights
- Original Message - From: "Bob W" Subject: RE: The Photographer's Rights What makes you think he didn't? What makes you think I think?
Re: enabled 645 style
- Original Message - From: "Steve Sharpe" Subject: enabled 645 style Now I need a 120 back...and more lenses...the fun begins! -- You can shoot more pictures with a 220 back. William Robb
Re: OT: Who is behind the scene of Komkon hosting P*G (was: Recommended SD Cards
- Original Message - From: "Glen" If I'm liberal enough, then I actually become conservative? head> I'm not sure how that's supposed to work... ;-) If you are conservative enough, you are a kook. If you are liberal enough, you are a kook. Either way, you are a kook. WW
Re: The Photographer's Rights
- Original Message - From: Subject: Re: The Photographer's Rights [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Funny thing is he probably did more good than any president in US history, but the only thing he is remembered for is Watergate. === Personally, I can think of quite a few presidents who did more for this country. But that is not to say Nixon didn't have his accomplishments. But did they do more good? Nixon got you out of Vietnam and Southeast Asia, signed treaties with Russia to limit WMD proliferation in both the USA and the USSR, began a dialogue with the Chinese and helped negotiate military disengagement between Israil, Syria and Egypt. Most of the recent US presidents have been hell bent on starting wars, Nixon seems to have been commited to ending them. William Robb
Re: The Photographer's Rights
- Original Message - From: "Bob W" Subject: RE: The Photographer's Rights What about the one who caught cold at his inauguration and only lived a month? you had a month-old president!? He just acts that way. HAR!! WW
A couple of PESOs
I finally managed to get out with the 600 and do some shooting. This les is a challenge to shoot with, to be sure. Anyone using long lenses (Ken, Tom!!!) any tips or advice for using one of these beasties would be appreciated. Anyway, a couple of my less embarrasing atempts with the big gun are here http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/wingedrats1.html http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/wingedrats2.html William Robb
Re: PESO - Politics
- Original Message - From: "Bruce Dayton" Subject: PESO - Politics Pentax *istD, K 200/2.5, Handheld ISO 200, 1/750 sec @ f/4 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2171.htm Comments welcome I see the Left and Right, Conservative and Liberal, Republican and Democrat looking towards what they percieve as the one true way of thinking. Seperate, yet attached, is either correct? I see the dreams of the future reflected in the unformed buds, the children, so to speak, not knowing which way to turn, abandoned. Will they go left? Or right? Does it matter? Nice shot. Thanks for sharing it. William Robb
Re: The Photographer's Rights
- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: The Photographer's Rights Washington got a city named after him because he was instrumental in getting the "Federal City" built But why did Peyton only get a Place? WW
Re: colour problems with ist D in combination with studio lights
- Original Message - From: "Colin Miller" Subject: colour problems with ist D in combination with studio lights Recently I have been shooting sports teams and high school balls with studio lights and my ist D. The skin tones are far too yellow. This doen't happen under sunlight or with a metz flash. The lab suggests setting the contrast and saturation to the lowest levels on the menu. Any experiences or suggestions. Yes, set the white balance manually. William Robb
Re: A couple of PESOs
- Original Message - From: "David Savage" Subject: Re: A couple of PESOs BTW I like the second shot. In the background is that heat haze, jpeg artifacts or just really bad bokeh? Might be heat haze. I was shooting across an airport runway. William Robb
Re: Silver lenses on black bodies
- Original Message - From: "Andre Langevin" Subject: Silver lenses on black bodies >And I got complaints about how silly the 43 ltd in silver looks on a D... I find the combo black MZ-S or IST D body with silver Limited lenses great. Am I the only one? I prefer the black limited lenses. William Robb
Re: colour problems with ist D in combination with studio lights
- Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" Subject: Re: colour problems with ist D in combination with studio lights Shoot RAW and set your color temperature and hue during conversion. I do all my studio work in RAW. It's the only way to get it absolutely right without a lot of fuss. To make it easy, place a white object somewhere in the shot, and use the eyedropper to set color temperature. You can just clone out the white marker when you process. If you must shoot jpegs, set your white balance manually. See your *istDS operator's manual for instructions. I set up a RAW conversion action specifically for my studio lights. I didn't think of putting a white card into the scene, I just adjusted till it looked right on the screen. Thanks for the tip. It's something I should have thought of myself. If the lights are consistent output (I've seen some that are all over the place) it should be OK to take the white card out after your aperture setting exposure and carry on. I don't use a flash meter in the studio anymore, I use the histogram on the camera. I'm pretty comfortable with my lighting ratios now though, so I don't need to meter every light anymore. William Robb
Re: Pentax warehouse sale, R.I.P. (lengthish)
- Original Message - From: "Bob Shell" Subject: Re: Pentax warehouse sale, R.I.P. (lengthish) It's kind of sad that none of the companies do this sort of thing anymore. These warehouse clearance sales were always a lot of fun. I suspect that they are all as close to on demand manufacture as possible now, and I doubt very much if the really nice stuff is made until ordered. I bought a new 15/3.5 last year, it was special order from Japan and took almost 3 months. It is sad, I always liked digging around in the stuff that was being cleared out of the bowels of the warehouse too. William Robb
Re: A couple of PESOs
- Original Message - From: "keithw" Subject: Re: A couple of PESOs . This les is a challenge to shoot with, to be sure. I would think so! What was the camera attached to it? That was the istD. With a 35mm camera, you're talking about a 12X magnification. Try hand holding a 12X telescope sometime, and see how much you wiggle around! A monopod helps, but a tripod is almost mandatory, I'd think. Did you use a tripod? Yup, Zone VI standard under a Wimberley head. Those are great shots, Bill! You're doing just fine! Thanks Keith, I agree with Paul that the subjects could be more compelling, but after having the lens for almost 2 weeks and not making a single exposure with it, I was getting kinda antsy to try it out. William Robb
Re: A couple of PESOs
- Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" Subject: Re: A couple of PESOs Hi Bill, Considering that you were trying to shoot birds in flight, you seem to have done a reasonably good job of getting them in focus on that second shot, although it would be nice if they were a bit closer. There doesn't seem to be any evidence of camera shake, so your tripod setup must be working. Thats the Zone VI tripod under a Wimberley head. I had some problems getting an attachment that was workable, and I really think Pentax could have done a better job on the design of this lens. The only way I can actually get the thing to balance is with the istD and battery pack, or else the LX with the winder attached. On that first shot with the towers, I would rotate it a bit to straigten the verticals if it were mine. What's most lacking here is really compelling subject matter. I think a trip to Denali is in store for you. First you buy the lens, then you go to Denali. Just ask Ken :-). Compelling subject matter? You don't like flying rats? I was on my way home from the lumber store and decided to try to shoot some shots of the Re/Max balloon. They were even more bland, so I tried to take a picture of an airliner taking off. Couldn't track it until it was a mere speck, so I decided to try something slower moving. This is a very challenging lens to shoot with. Thanks for looking and commenting. William Robb
Re: A couple of PESOs
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: A couple of PESOs Your comment leads me to think about adding an extension tube or two to the lens and using it for close-up or macro work. Butterflies from 30 feet should be possible.... William Robb
Another shot with the 600
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/jazzland.html Probably not a compelling as the winged rats, unless you like Canadian Jazz. William Robb
Re: PESO: Dream Cruise Day
- Original Message - From: "Cotty" Subject: Re: PESO: Dream Cruise Day On 21/8/05, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: For me a car is just a thing. Some people are a little weird, no? He probably doesn't like girls either.. WW
Re: Silver lenses on black bodies
- Original Message - From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" Subject: Re: Silver lenses on black bodies On Aug 20, 2005, at 10:47 PM, Andre Langevin wrote: I find the combo black MZ-S or IST D body with silver Limited lenses great. Same here: http://homepage.mac.com/godders/DS-28-105comp.jpg The greenish/white ones look good on any body colour.... William Robb
Re: Another Ques re: istDs
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: Another Ques re: istDs Main battery? Are there auxiliary bats as well? There is a lithium button battery (about the size of a 50 cent piece) that keeps everything warm when the power is shut off. It should have a 5 or so year life expectancy. When it gets changed, you will lose all the custom settings on the camera, so it's a good idea to have this info written down somewhere. It seems to me that with the remote assistand software, they could have made it possible to set all this stuff and store it as a file on the computer, and reload it from there. OTOH, it's not like as if it is required to replace the battery all that often. William Robb
Re: Another Ques re: istDs
- Original Message - From: "Cotty" Subject: Re: Another Ques re: istDs Is there no facility to save all the camera settings (incl personal and custom functions) to the CF card? I don't think so. I'd have to check the manual to be certain though. William Robb
Re: Another Ques re: istDs
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: Another Ques re: istDs Thanks, Bill ... my old Sony Mavica had that, although the newer Sony doesn't seem to. This battery concept, and turning a camera on/off will certainly take some getting used to. There have been so many times when I've forgotten to turn the 5n off, or forgot to turn it on before trying to use it and being unable to take a shot The digital powers itself down after a few minutes (user settable time delay). The istD, if it has powered itself down, is ready to go again just by touching and releasing the shutter button once. What's remote assistant software? You can attach the camera to a computer via a USB cable and control it from there. I haven't investigated the possibilities fully though, so I really don't know all that is available. Note, I misread the subject line, I am talking about the istD, not the istDs. I don't know if it can use the Remote Assistant or not. William Robb
Re: Another Ques re: istDs
- Original Message - From: "Cotty" Subject: Re: Another Ques re: istDs On 21/8/05, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: Is there no facility to save all the camera settings (incl personal and custom functions) to the CF card? Sorry, I mean to the SD card? Duh! Misread the subject line. I'm talking about the istD, not the istDs. I'll go to my room now. William Robb
Re: Silver lenses on black bodies
- Original Message - From: "Bertil Holmberg" Subject: Re: Silver lenses on black bodies Since the question is up – how easy is it to get the black LE lenses? It was too easy in Canada. I ended up with 2 of them. Another aspect – silver will always be silver while the black will wear off ne? With the Limiteds, I have my doubts. It is a really tough finish. William Robb
Re: The Photographer's Rights
- Original Message - From: "Glen" Subject: Re: The Photographer's Rights I wonder if this thread will ever get back to protecting the rights of photographers to use their Pentax cameras for whatever peaceful law-abiding purpose they see fit? ;-) So last night, I decided I wanted to take some pictures with my long telephoto lens. I have already spotted the Re/Max balloon low and heading west, so with my wife's permission, I give chase, ending up just to the northwest of the #1 runway at the airport. Set up the big wooden tripod, and put the lens with camera attached onto the gimball. For quite a while, I observed the airport, took pictures of the balloon, and a few of various other things. I probably hung out for a half hour, perhaps more. A few vehicles went past, one guy asked if it was OK to keep going, he was worried about getting in my way No hassles, no visits with the local constabulary, no officious persons telling me to move on. A very pleasant experience, even if the pictures werem't the greatest. William Robb
Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax
- Original Message - From: "Peter Loveday" Subject: Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax Not a lot new really. Which makes this the fourth in a series of confusingly similar DSLRs. Well done, Pentax :( It is a strategy that has served Canon well since the first Rebel film camera hit the market. William Robb
Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax
- Original Message - From: "Don Sanderson" Subject: RE: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax 95%/.95, 8 frame burst, B&W filter, under $800WooHoo! ;-) SLIMMING FILTER!!! WW
Re: A couple of PESOs
- Original Message - From: "Powell Hargrave" Subject: Re: A couple of PESOs Even makes Saskatchewan look cozy. :) Nice shots Bill. Flying birds, even large ratish ones, are not easy. You could practice on something easier like a gofer. Thanks, Powell. Bill
Re: A couple of PESOs
- Original Message - From: "Joseph Tainter" Subject: Re: A couple of PESOs Seems to perform nicely on the D, Bill. It seems pretty good. I want to make some prints and see how it looks. I did a lot of sharpening on the web images. William Robb
Re: A couple of PESOs
- Original Message - From: "Evan Hanson" Subject: RE: A couple of PESOs Good job on number 2. Thanks Evan Bill
Re: Another shot with the 600
- Original Message - From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" Subject: Re: Another shot with the 600 On Aug 21, 2005, at 8:45 AM, William Robb wrote: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/jazzland.html Probably not a compelling as the winged rats, unless you like Canadian Jazz. Gawds, the air makes it looks as though you used the Liquify tools in Photoshop! :-) Yes, it's certainly as challenging to shoot with ultra-telephoto as it is with ultra-wide. I liked the photo of birds on the wing. Godfrey; Thanks for looking. Bill
Re: Another shot with the 600
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Another shot with the 600 I actually find this more interesting than the winged rats (whatever they are -- I couldn't see them well enough :-)). Canada Geese. Keep at it. OK Mom. Thanks for looking Bill
Re: A couple of PESOs
- Original Message - From: "william sawyer" Subject: RE: A couple of PESOs Bill, I've had this lens for about 2 years now, and agree with everything you've said. I describe it as a long stovepipe, with the mount stuck on one end. I'm surprised you are able to balance it on a gimbaled head. I use it on a ballhead and crank it down as tight as I can, plus use my focusing hand to absorb vibration. With the thing being so long from the mounting point, it creates a pretty big arc for every little movement. Here is a bit of a detail shot of the mount. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/600mm/IMGP8908.jpg Nice light, isn't it? Anyway.. That plate is just over 6 inches long, and I cannot balance the thing if a camera only is mounted. The istD has to have the battery pack on it, the LX has to have the winder attached, and since I haven't actually tried it, I don't know for sure if it will balance or not. I may end up having a load fabricated that can be attached to the camera's tripod socket to help counterbalance the thing. I figure about a pound of steel should do it... I like your heron picture. William Robb
Re: A couple of PESOs
- Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" Subject: Re: A couple of PESOs William, Seriously, shot #2 is a nice grab. If you've indicated whether the 600 is an AF or MF, I missed it. It is manual focus. Do you have stalking "wildlife" plans or to just check your reaction to random "compression" shots until a direction happens? I just set the thing up and waved it blindly around Seriously, I took a few boring pictures of a hot air balloon, then a plane took off, and I tried to track it. I couldn't even find it until it was less than a third of the viewfinder Then some rats flew by, and I took some pictures of them. Then I went home and barbecued a steak, and had it along with a nice Carmenare. It was very relaxing. While I have no experience "hints" to pass along, I'm certain you're going to add a number of dramatic images to your inventory by its use. Best part, a new lens,..etc, always stirs the photo juices anew. HAR!! I feel so revved!!! Thanks for looking Bill
Re: A couple of PESOs
- Original Message - From: "Kenneth Waller" Subject: Re: A couple of PESOs Anyone using long lenses (Ken, Tom!!!) any tips or advice for using one of these beasties would be appreciated. Bill, first of all shoot, shoot and shoot some more. I don't know what shutter speed you were using but it doesn't appear the vibration is an issue with your set up. I was trying to keep the shutter speed up, these were shot at ISO 400, at around 1/1000 second. The aperture was close to wide open, around f/6.3. I keep my movement control knobs as tight as I can and still get the movement I want. Instinctively, that is what I did also. I keep my tripod as short as possible to lessen possible vibration (I'm using a carbon fiber Gitzo which seem somewhat better than an equivalent aluminum tripod). I drape my left arm over the barrel of my 600 to load it and dampen any potential vibration, but I generally shoot with a high enough shutter that this hasn't been a problem. I saw your tripod, nice rig. I'm using a Zone VI wooden tripod that weighs about 15 pounds. I probably had the legs about halfway extended. It's a pretty solid tripod, and it is the best of the three that I have for damping shutter/mirror vibration (In case anyone remembers the Tripod Follies of a while back). I did try holding down on the lens at the gimbal point, it seemed to help, but the biggest help was the two second delay. It's not bad for shooting a hot air balloon, not much good for anything that is actually moving though. Do you use the shutter button or the remote release? And shoot, shoot and shoot some more. I'll do that. I might do some bear hunting in BC in a couple of weeks. Thanks for looking, and for the advice. Bill
Re: *ist-DS2
- Original Message - From: "Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu" Subject: Re: *ist-DS2 "Interestingly it appears that this camera will not be available in Europe but should be available elsewhere in the world." Why??? Your pictures aren't worth a Pentax.. WW
Re: unsubscribe
Ferget it. WW - Original Message - From: "ricksmith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 2:34 AM Subject: unsubscribe
Re: catch-light panel
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: catch-light panel Christian wrote: It is a flash accessory, Shel. These are things you don't care about Thank you. You're right, although I find the concept interesting based on other comments in this thread. Is there some significance to the "jedi_mind_trick" reference? I don't make a connection to the topic at all Yes Shel, there is. It was quite a funny little reference. If you watch the original Star Wars movie (Episode IV I believe), you will get it. William Robb
Re: catch-light panel
- Original Message - From: "Dario Bonazza" Subject: Re: catch-light panel A Canon gizmo, available in both the EX550 and EX580 flash units. According to a Canon discussion, it's a panel you put in front of the flash head (during bouncing flash technique) for scattering some light direcft on the subject (whiel the main beam is against the ceiling), for retaining the catch light effect. Sort of a cheap version of the auxiliary reflector available in some Metz flash units. We used to do that with white plastic spoons elastic banded to the flash head. William Robb
Re: When Pentax DSLR with better crop level?
- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: When Pentax DSLR with better crop level? I guess someone doesn't understand the significance of the Ulan Bator show... Sad how you can tell the oldtimers on the list by them understanding how significant the Ulan Bator show is. And WW for that matter.... William Robb
Re: News from Canon... FF for 3300$
- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: News from Canon... FF for 3300$ Sadly I don't care, I'd either have to buy Canon glass, or butcher my K mounts. I dunno, I find it pretty hard to be blase about the exact camera body specification that I asked for on list a mere few weeks ago. Other than the wrong lens mount, it is pretty much exactly what I want in a DSLR. William Robb
Re: When Pentax DSLR with better crop level?
- Original Message - From: "John Celio" Subject: Re: When Pentax DSLR with better crop level? Hallo, question for those who keep close in touch with digital-camera-market. = When there may appear on the market Pentax DSLR with better than 1.5 = crop. I expect they will introduce a full frame DSLR at the next Ulan Bator show. William Robb What leads you to believe this? Unless I've missed something, there doesn't seem to be any indication that Pentax will produce a dSLR with a 35mm-size sensor anytime in the forseeable future. Have you checked the dates for the next Ulan Bator show? William Robb
Re: The Photographer's Rights (please behave)
- Original Message - From: "Tim Øsleby" Subject: RE: The Photographer's Rights (please behave) BW>You could try narrowing it down a bit so that it excludes some people... This is constructive! We need a big guy, who enjoys a fight, and can take a lot of whipping. Get Cakalic a can of Dream Whip and a French Maid's outfit and I expect he'd be up to it. WW
Re: Why full frame?
- Original Message - From: "Kevin Waterson" Subject: Why full frame? I really dont see why the rush is on to get a full frame sensor for 35mm. The current Sony chips used by Pentax seem to do the job for most folks just fine. How many folks need the extra size when I can make 40"x30" prints from the current sensor. I'd like a real wide angle lens... William Robb
Re: News from Canon... FF for 3300$
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: News from Canon... FF for 3300$ Being totally dependent on outside suppliers for a main and very important component doesn't seem like a good long-term business strategy in any case. They tried that already. Now you can't get Panatomic-X and Ektar25.. William Robb
Re: catch-light panel
- Original Message - From: "Cotty" Subject: Re: catch-light panel Didn't I make one out of bleach bottle for a 280T once ? After I finish buying one of every lens, I'll have to start checking into flash accessories. Whats the part number of a bleach bottle for a 280T? William Robb
Re: News from Canon... FF for 3300$
- Original Message - From: "Thibouille" Subject: Re: News from Canon... FF for 3300$ Seems the FF brings problems. Only very good quality would be usable (yes, this is rumors) but check this pictures from Canon site... this sucks ! http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/eos5d/html/eos5d_sample_3e.html They aer out of focus in the corners. So this is the technical problem making an FF sensor not usable with usual FF film lenses? Looks more like a lens problem on one of the pictures. The macro shot seems sharp enough. William Robb
Re: News from Canon... FF for 3300$
- Original Message - From: "Thibouille" Subject: Re: News from Canon... FF for 3300$ Sure, but if even a third of EF optics do not work than there's a major problem IMO. If one optic works, it's not a sensor problem. The picture you are looking at was shot with a 17m lens. They aren't known for excellent corner sharpness anyway. William Robb
Re: News from Canon... FF for 3300$
- Original Message - From: "Thibouille" Subject: Re: News from Canon... FF for 3300$ Of course sensors will improve. But seeing a photo like this promoting the 5D is still puzzling me. C'mon this is supposed to be a marketing perfect thing. What about reality? worse? That should be fun, really. Specifically, what the hell are you complaining about? William Robb
Re: "Sunning" at 24x36 inches?
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: "Sunning" at 24x36 inches? I suggest you rent/buy a 4x5 camera and scan those negatives and make 24"x36" print from true 100MP files and maybe your definition of "stunning" will change. Do you really think that at 24x36" print size there is no room for vast improvement over a 6MP APS captured image? Heck, John, they just need to buy a roll of 35mm film and get a good quality wet print made to see an improvement over the 6mp digital. I have a 20x24 wet print from a 4x5 chrome on my wall that is truly stunning. William Robb
Re: Large Print Quality From 6mp Cameras (was: )
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Large Print Quality From 6mp Cameras (was: ) When I see such a print that meets my standards using the technique you've described, I'll believe it. I've not seen anything approaching a 16x20 or larger made from a 6mp Pentax camera that qualifies as "stunning" by my standards. I know that there are plug-ins and software that supposedly provides great results. I've yet to see the results obtained using such software, therefore I am skeptical. However, based on the comments people on the list make about the quality of the images posted here (mine included, BTW), I think I may be a bit more critical than most, even with my own photos and images. I am also skeptical of software upsizing. It works to a degree, but at some point, it falls apart. With the digital, you are giving up the ability to capture really fine detail and really fine tonal qualities in favour of a grain free print, although noise (which can look like grain) will rear it's ugly head from time to time. William Robb
Re: News from Canon... FF for 3300$
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: News from Canon... FF for 3300$ Huh? Why is it easier to inspect technical quality with digital than with film? Why would a digi photog inspect the results "more severely"?I'd think any serious photog would be concerned about the technical quality of his/her lenses to the same degree regardless of using film or digital. I was able to take the pictures off the Canon site and expand them on my monitor to a quite incredibly large size. Even with a good loupe, this kind of thing would be very difficult, if not impossible to do with film, and you certainly can't use scanned film images as a means of inspecting film image quality, only the combination of film/scanner quality. William Robb
Re: News from Canon... FF for 3300$
- Original Message - From: "Sylwester Pietrzyk" Subject: Re: News from Canon... FF for 3300$ "top-of-the-line" L 16-35/2.8 seems to be even worse. Look at the comparison made by long time Canona user: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/lenses/canon-17-40.shtml unfortunately wide-angle capabilities of FF sensors can't be realised with genuine Canon glass. Nikon's APS-C dedicated lens DX 12-24/4 gives much better image quality with for instance D2X... I'm not seeing anything that would be a problem on a photographic print. It is very easy to manufacture "problems" via unreasonable amounts of scrutinization. William Robb
Re: Are Pentax compact digitals really that bad?
- Original Message - From: "Peter Smekal" Subject: Are Pentax compact digitals really that bad? Hi folks, I've been thinking about buying a small pocket digital camera for those situations when a DSLR is too inconvenient. As old pentaxian (ME-sup, LX, Pz-1p, *istD) I would of course rather go for a Pentax, but the reviews (dpreview, imaging-resource, steves digocams, etc) mostly grade Pentax Optios far behind the Canons, Sonys, Fujis Finepix' etc. espcecially when it comes to image quality. Is it really that bad? Any experience from ... let's say the new Optio S5z? It looks nice, is small enough for a shirt pocket, but what about image quality? Thanks for any advice! Peter, Sweden I recently got to compare images from my Optio 750 against AnnSan's Canon Pro1 (whatever that thing is). No contest, the Optio images had less noise, and more importantly, far less flare. Methinks some of the internet resources are biased towards certain brands at the expense of others. William Robb
Re: News from Canon... FF for 3300$
- Original Message - From: "Dario Bonazza" Subject: Re: News from Canon... FF for 3300$ (LOL) Yeah, projection lenses and slide screens are known for being fault-free :-))) (end of LOL) HAR William Robb
Re: A couple of PESOs
- Original Message - From: "Herb Chong" Subject: Re: A couple of PESOs i have never shot with my 400/2.8 at any aperture other than f2.8. there isn't any point with a lens of this type. if you could use a smaller aperture, you wouldn't need that lens. also, if Pentax did what other manufacturers have done, it is designed to perform best wide open. I didn't give that much thought. I could have gained a half stop of shutter speed, which might have tightened things up a bit more. I made a print of the shot of the geeses around the radar tower today at work. It looks a tad over sharpened, but some of that may be from the heat haze from the tarmac. The white cheeks on the geese are visible in the 4x6, which was nice. I must work on Ken's idea for a front rest. It can't be too hard, I am sure I can carve on out of pine. William Robb
Re: A couple of PESOs
- Original Message - From: "Tom Reese" Subject: Re: A couple of PESOs The lens is twitchy for sure. For maximum sharpness, I recommend use of a very solid tripod, a cable release and mirror lockup when you can. Use all three if your subject allows it. Tripod and cable release together will go a long way toward getting sharp images. Have you tried the old bungee cord stretched from camera tripod socket to tripod leg trick? William Robb
Re: A couple of PESOs
- Original Message - From: "Kenneth Waller" Subject: Re: A couple of PESOs >Do you use the shutter button or the remote release? I generally use the shutter release. I'm kinda leaning that way, in some respects I think I can steady the thing a bit myself. I'm probably wrong, I'll check it out next time. From the look of your lens/mount setup it appears that this lens was built without a thought to balance on a tripod head or it was made to be used with a very heavy body. I'm thinking my 6x7 might balance it. If you are going to fiddle with your set up you might want to think about a lens rest at the far end of the mounting plate (the other end from where the plate attaches to the lens. As you have it now, there's a long cantilever arm from the lens plate mount to the end of the plate at the head. Well, aren't I just the tool. I shoulda thought of that.. Thanks William Robb
Re: PESO: Artificial Beach
- Original Message - From: "Bob W" Subject: RE: PESO: Artificial Beach and the Queen might dislike giving up her titles, though she could always move to Australia or Canada. What a tragedy that would be. Absolutely. I actually like the idea of being able to petition the Queen (or King as required). William Robb
Re: "Sunning" at 24x36 inches?
- Original Message - From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" Subject: Re: "Sunning" at 24x36 inches? I'd be most interested to see Cameron's image *and* hear Shel's opinion. Like others, I want first hand experience of the original to base an opinion on. I'm quite happy with the print quality I'm getting right now, and I'm fairly critical on prints. I normally print to 11x17 or 13x19 sizes. The biggest print I can make at my lab is 12x18, on Kodak Edge 9. We print at 320 ppi. I find this size is right on the edge of acceptability, and requires an image that isn't dependant on really fine detail. I'm happy most of the time at that size, I don't think I would still be happy at 20x30 or larger, unlss the picture was to be hung quite far away. I have a big blank wall abut 13 feet from my stairs. I would like to put a couple of big prints on it, but I think they will be photographs, not captures. Unless I get a FF 14mp Pentax, that is. William Robb
Re: MY defintion of obsolete - its way different than those suggested....
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: MY defintion of obsolete - its way different than those suggested To me, truly obsolete is something that has been replaced by something else that is equal or superior in EVERY aspect for same or less money, CURRENT NEW COST. So you aren't willing to allow for the cost of the R&D required to improve something? William Robb
Re: What Would Make a DSLR "Obsolete"?
- Original Message - From: "Butch Black" Subject: Re: What Would Make a DSLR "Obsolete"? It's no different then the PZ-1p did not make the MX or LX obsolete. Not being a PZ-1p camera liker, I can say without reservation that I agree fully with this. Not that this matters a whit. William Robb
Re: 36mm x 36mm sensor?
- Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" Subject: Re: 36mm x 36mm sensor? I'd like a 26 x 34 sensor myself: It's just about the same image circle as a 24 x 36 but in the 3:4 ratio I prefer (one of the things I like about the 645 format). What a marvelous idea. Then my SLR customers can bitch at me about my cropping their pictures too. William Robb
Re: MY defintion of obsolete - its way different than those suggested....
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: MY defintion of obsolete - its way different than those suggested No one asked for truly obsolete, just plain old obsolete. Obsolete is in the mind of the beholder (user). Then there is found obsolescence, where your fleet of LX's sits idle because of the DSLR that suddenly found it's way into the house... Seriously though, part of the definition of obsolete has to include just plain not using the thing anymore because you are using something else now. I should probably sell some film cameras.. William Robb
Re: What Would Make a DSLR "Obsolete"?
- Original Message - From: "Graywolf" Subject: Re: What Would Make a DSLR "Obsolete"? I had a stunning photograph once. It was a matted and framed 16x24 hanging over the sofa. The nail kept pulling out of the wall. Everyone whom it fell on said it was really stunning. We have a print of a painting like that. I got a print from a nice old lady that painted kind of Victorian still lifes. She wanted pictures of her work for submitting to a gallery, couldn't afford the photography, and wasn't able to do it herself. I did a trade for a print I thought my wife would like. It made a nice little gift for a birthday or anniversary, I don't recall which. Anyway, I framed it and hung it on the wall, and life was good, and many kind things were said about my thoughtfulness. One day, she was digging around in a drawer, stood up and knocked it off the wall with her forehead. She's been kinda stunned ever since. Not really, she recovered her senses quite quickly, but she still has a ding in her forehead from it. William Robb
Re: Feedback on FA 28-70 F4.0 AL
- Original Message - From: "John Taylor" Subject: Feedback on FA 28-70 F4.0 AL Does anyone have experience, opinions and/or samples for the FA 28-70/ f4 AL? I just picked up a used copy for $75 and will not have a chance to test it out until I get back home from travel for work. The lens appears to be in great shape, but the focus ring seems pretty loose at least off the camera. Is this normal? I'll be using this on my *istDS since I can't yet afford the F2.8 model. Got it, used it, liked it well enough for what it is. On film. No idea about on digital. No, I don't have sample pictures. It is, apparently, prone to lens element separation, so your lens might not be the same as my lens. I don't know the same things that you don't know. William Robb
Re: 36mm x 36mm sensor?
- Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" Subject: Re: 36mm x 36mm sensor? Oh man, don't get me started on the subject of photo store customers who don't understand the concept of "ratios" No, don't get me started. Really. I have even replaced some hot sellers on our countertop unit with 4x5.33 inch alternatives. Maybe I'll change their name to "digital prints" and see what that does to sales.. William Robb
Re: metrics question
- Original Message - From: "Butch Black" Subject: metrics question The sigma is GN 50m @ 100ASA, 105mm zoom reflector setting. The Pentax one is GN 54m @ 100ASA, doesn't say what zoom that's at. If you multiply by 3 do you roughly get your guide numbers in feet? More or less. A meter is actually 39 and a bit inches. William Robb
Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax
- Original Message - From: "Herb Chong" Subject: Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax three almost indistinguishable DSLRs in production at the same time doesn't make retailers happy. this strategy has been tried before. I recall Canon making our life difficult with the Rebel film camera. I think they had 3 different versions in about a year and a half. Every time the new one came out, the old one had to be really deeply discounted, or else it wouldn't sell. Twice, the company I worked for fell for a discount offer from Canon when they wanted to blow a camera out of their warehouse because the replacement model was on it's way, and twice, we ended up selling that camera body below our (discounted) cost just to get it out of ours. The buyers smartened up and didn't fall for the ruse the third time, so Canon just made sure our orders were always backordered for the replacement Rebel. William Robb
Re: 36mm x 36mm sensor?
- Original Message - From: "keithw" Subject: Re: 36mm x 36mm sensor? But, that's for personal use, not for sale prints. And that's about 97.4% of the prints made. William Robb
Re: 36mm x 36mm sensor?
- Original Message - From: "keithw" Subject: Re: 36mm x 36mm sensor? Ten make him an 11 X 13 1/4, or 11 X 12 3/4. It's a custom print anyhow, isn't it? Does everyone measure prints, to make sure they get their money's worth? Or, am I missing something... No one wants to pay custom, and photo labs tend to produce stock print sizes, left to their own devices. With film, the problem was not being able to fit the ends of a 35mm frame into an 8x10, which wasn't so much of a problem, since it was a low volume product. With digital, the problem is cropping the top and bottom off the image to fit a 4x6 print. This is a problem, since it is a high volume product. William Robb
Re: A couple of PESOs
- Original Message - From: "Herb Chong" Subject: Re: A couple of PESOs something else to consider is that heat haze has much more effect than you would guess from what you can see through the viewfinder. i figure that the working range of my setup of a 400/2.8 with the 1.7X extender is really only up to about 500ft. much more than that on a warm day and air currents become too much for good sharpness. i prefer to work at no more than 200 ft if i can help it. for small bird work, i prefer 30-40ft. Thanks for this. That shot of the radar tower was probably at a distance of a mile, perhaps even a bit more, and I was shooting just about straight down the airport's main runway. William Robb
Re: MY defintion of obsolete - its way different than those suggested....
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: MY defintion of obsolete - its way different than those suggested I agree. Which one do you want? William Robb
Re: 36mm x 36mm sensor?
- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: 36mm x 36mm sensor? About "No sane company will invest a lot in making new camera systems for a 35mm sensor." Tell that to Canon, they seem to be making a lot of money these days. I think Canon actually made a small investment in APS C sensors, and are now moving towards where they wanted to be now that the technology is becoming realisticaly affordable. William Robb
Re: MZ-S
- Original Message - From: "Cesar" Subject: Re: MZ-S It was not Norm's drinking that did in gate-boy this year. I will have you know that I did redeem myself as gate-boy at the Camera Clinic. And yes there was wine involved along with a pre-dawn trip up the mountain... I recall you stayed up pretty late on Saturday chatting with Doug and I... Norm crashed pretty early. William Robb
Re: The Nature of Film's Final Throws
- Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" Subject: The Nature of Film's Final Throws How much longer will starving film cameras demand 35mm color pos/neg films be produced? What level of production and availability would qualify as "in production"? What's the likelihood of film's resuscitation through some manner of structural breakthrough? Un-answerable, but care to muse? As a readily available consumer commodity, I expect film will pretty much be gone within 5 years. William Robb
Re: Pancakes for Breakfast
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: Pancakes for Breakfast Hmmm that may make it unsatisfactory on the DS as well. These cameras are designed to have the aperture set from the body. It did take some getting used to, but it is a technique not difficult to get to know. William Robb
Re: Pancakes for Breakfast
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: Pancakes for Breakfast Oh, I didn't know that. Don't recall ever hearing of such a thing. That might be kinda neat ... or not. Worth trying, anyway. I would still prefer using an aperture ring, but since they are taking that option away from us, we do what we have to do. On the istD, the front ring controls the shutter time, the rear one controls the aperture value. I haven't handled a Ds, apparently it only has one control wheel, so I don't know how it seperates the control function. William Robb
Re: Re: The Nature of Film's Final Throes
- Original Message - From: "mike wilson" Subject: Re: Re: The Nature of Film's Final Throes I think this is an area where the photographic industry has dealt itself a severe, if not mortal, blow. If you give Mr & Mrs Sixpack (who _do not care_ about quality) a way to look at their pictures for free, how can you possibly expect them to buy prints? Fortunately, Joe and his wife are, for the most part, beer swilling semi-neanderthals who are not literate enough to figure out how to run a computer. Looking at my sales figures over the past couple of years, film processing is now at ~30% of where it peaked out 3 years ago, but prints are running closer to 75%. William Robb
Re: The Nature of Film's Final Throes
- Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" Subject: Re: The Nature of Film's Final Throes But with digital they don't finish a "batch" until the memory card is full. Then they come to the shop and are shocked to see a total of $60, $70 or over $100 because they have so many shots on that card. Even though the cost per print is lower with film, it's a big psychological hurdle to pay it in one lump sum like that! Most didn't want to spend the time standing at out print kiosk going through 200 images and selecting ones to print, and few had the willingness or knowledge of how to do it at home. Funny you should mention that. You probably didn't see the change in demographic. The majority of the consumers for digital pictures at my lab are teenage to early 20's females. they treat the kiosk as a social event, generally there is always a small group of young ladies working on a print order at one of the machines. William Robb
Re: The Nature of Film's Final Throes
- Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" Subject: Re: The Nature of Film's Final Throes I'm watching to see when the first such place opens up *without* a minilab. I'm also waiting to see when the first one is pulled out of an existing location because the income is no longer worth the trouble. Anyone care to speculate on this one? The income not worth the trouble is not going to be a problem real soon. I think the strategy is to make the customer do several trips into the store. I can run off a 100 print digital order in about 20 minutes, but if I take a couple of hours, there is a good chance that customer will leave the premises and come back, generating 2 retail opportunities for the store, rather than just one. William Robb
Re: Survey: Your Most Unusual Shot
- Original Message - From: "Doug Brewer" Subject: Re: Survey: Your Most Unusual Shot oh, Lord, we're trying to =attract= people to the NPW. Let's not threaten them with having to listen to me. Wasn't so bad. You have a mellifluous accent. William Robb
Re: The Nature of Film's Final Throes
- Original Message - From: "mike wilson" Subject: Re: The Nature of Film's Final Throes Whichever way you look at it, that's down in all areas. It will be interesting to see how things pan out in the next few years. Oh yes. The 75% number actually pleases me, it means we are making lots of digital prints. More than I was expecting to be making, really. William Robb
Re: Re:The Nature of Film's Final Throes
- Original Message - From: "Unca Mikey" Subject: Re:The Nature of Film's Final Throes I shoot film, so I have spent time finding the best/cheapest places to get my film processed and printed: Sam's Club, several grocery chains, Wolf/Ritz Camera, and a couple of pro labs. In every case, the labs are busy busy busy. My lab is pretty busy all the time too. However, there are far fewer labs in my neck of the woods now than there was even 5 years ago. They also don't give us quite enough people to do the job (my opinion only), so we are always pretty busy. William Robb
Re: People & Portraits #34 - GDG
- Original Message - From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" Subject: PAW: People & Portraits #34 - GDG http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/34.htm Nice shot. William Robb
Re: The Nature of Film's Final Throes
- Original Message - From: "mike wilson" Subject: Re: The Nature of Film's Final Throes Sales of cameras, probably. The British media is full of adverts from all the photo companies begging people to buy their easy to use printers and for-crying-out-loud to print something and use some consumeables. The industry is only just beginning to see how badly it has wounded itself by remving the cash cow that was film and processing. Digital photography was going to happen, whether any old image industry companies got on board or not. The digital camera started life as an extension of the home electronics market, not the camera/photography market of the time, I believe it was Sony who made the first consumer digital camera. Given my druthers, I'd be just as happy if digital had't come along. It makes my daytime work unpleasant. If the photofinishing industry hadn't reacted as early and as fully as it did, there would be no industry left. Film, on the other hand, is doomed. The digital camera has made several fairly seperate industries into direct competition with each other. The film companies can either compete with the camera companies and electronics companies, or get pushed out of the market, because it's all the same market now. William Robb
Re: The Nature of Film's Final Throes
- Original Message - From: "E.R.N. Reed" Subject: Re: The Nature of Film's Final Throes Mark Roberts wrote: Even if they have a computer they may not use it for viewing photos. But if they use it for email, they probably *do* use it for viewing photos (as they'll have relatives and possibly friends who want to share pictures by email.) Most of the photos viewed on computers are yer basic pornography. A lot of people are turning back to photo labs for prints from digital. It seems that we not only like looking at pictures, we also like the social interaction of having a stack of prints that we can pass around to our friends. We are now seeing a lot of pictures that are being uploaded to our server from other parts of the country to be printed and picked up by locals who are home from vacation. They aren't emailing files, they are, in effect, sending paper prints across country via ftp. They can make pictures on inkjet printers at home, but it is very expensive, and for a lot of people, it is also a technical challenge that they don't want to take on. William Robb
Re: The Nature of Film's Final Throes
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: The Nature of Film's Final Throes That's pretty neat. What size do you mostly print - 4x6 or so? JPEG or TIFF? How do you get paid? 4x6 or 5x7 off the server. We could print more sizes, up to 12x18, but not all stores can, no no stores do. I haven't given it much thought. Certainly mostly JPEGS, I'm not even sure if we'll accept anything else via ftp. Generally, we get paid by debit card, but however we get paid, it happens when the customer picks up the work. William Robb
Re: Manfrotto legs are slipping
- Original Message - From: "Derby Chang" Subject: Manfrotto legs are slipping I have a Manfrotto #055 tripod, with the old style lever locks (instead of the wing-type). Recently, the three locks on the lower section have started to lose their grip, so it it slips with the slightest weight on it. The upper locks are fine. Very annoying as I can only use the tripod at groin height (ahem). I tried tigtening the hex bolts, but they are already pretty tight. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this? Replace the entire clamp unit on each leg. The old 055 is one of the poorest pieces of engineering I have ever seen. William Robb
Peso: Two from the football game
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/football/_IGP9054.html http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/football/_IGP9066.html Shot with the F*300/4.5. Seems a decent enough lens William Robb
Re: Bicycling in France: All primes
- Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts"Subject: Bicycling in France: All primes > Should be fun... as long as I can scrape by on my (very) minimal French language skills :-) This should serve you well in most any difficult situation: " Je passe le vent dans votre direction générale " William Robb
Re: Peso: Two from the football game
- Original Message - From: "Boris Liberman" Subject: Re: Peso: Two from the football game Bill, it is technically very sound and competent... But without any knowledge of the game (it is American football, isn't it?) I can say nothing more. Canadian football. It's similar, but different, nonetheless. Thanks for looking William Robb
Re: Concert lens length restriction
- Original Message - From: "Pat White" Subject: Concert lens length restriction > Has anyone else heard of a 4-inch limit on length of lenses at a concert? It was a first for me. Intersting bit of ignorance, since: A) Inches officially don't exist is Canada. B) Some of these really long range zoome lenses are anout that ong when collapsed..... William Robb
Re: Peso: Two from the football game
- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: Peso: Two from the football game It was always fun trying to explain a "Roughriders vs. Roughriders" game to foreigners . It was Roughriders (Sask.) vs. Rough Riders (Ottawa). What's to be confused about? William Robb
Re: A couple of PESOs
- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: A couple of PESOs They let you take pix near airports with big honking lenses in Saskatchewan? It's pretty laid back here. I like the shots, BTW. Thanks b...
Re: Bicycling in France: All primes
- Original Message - From: "Bob W" Subject: RE: Bicycling in France: All primes "péter" is the verb you're trying to squeeze out. Thanks. I suppose gaz de liberté would also work. William (French by Google) Robb
Re: Peso: Two from the football game
- Original Message - From: "David Mann" Subject: Re: Peso: Two from the football game On Aug 29, 2005, at 3:16 AM, William Robb wrote: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/football/_IGP9054.html http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/football/_IGP9066.html I like the second one better. Don't you guys use real grass anymore? Thanks Dave. I think Edmonton still has real turf at Commonwealth Stadium, but I am pretty sure they are the last of the real turf football stadiums in Canada. William Robb
