Re: Question re basics

2003-12-14 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
 It has to do with the connection between the accumulation of capital
 ascribable to the creation of surplus value on one side, and the cascading
 mountainous accretion of debt instruments on the other, the whole
 multi-trillion dollar financial complex. How, basically, do the two
connect
 in a framework consistent with what Marx wrote? I had assumed without
being
 able at my level of comprehension to elaborate,  that all credit
 creation rests ultimately, fantastic as it might seem, on call-ins of
 indebtedness to the creators of the surplus value,
 the working class [of course, Sweezy called it 'surplus'].

Why exactly is it so necessary to connect in a way consistent with what
Marx wrote ? Can we not think for ourselves ? If you start off with a false
or dogmatically held premise, then you are driven ineluctably to
contradictory thinking at the very least, but that too could be a source of
creativity. The issue you raise is very complex, it's a bit like explaining
how people can travel to the moon - it can be done, but it takes a lot of
time. Ernest Mandel tackled this question (he considered Schumpeter one of
the most important 20th century bourgeois economists) because, contrary to
Trotskyist expectations, capitalism boomed after world war 2, and then the
question arose, whether this was due to human error, to a faulty analysis of
bourgeois society, or to something inherent in the capitalist system which
had still to be discovered. Technological revolutions are an intrinsic
feature of capitalist development, but as you know, capitalism is by - its
very structure - intrinsically incompatible with long-term steady growth, it
develops spasmodically through booms and busts which we can plot in squiggly
graphs. Thus, under specific conditions, new revolutionary technologies can
expand the market. But the time factor is crucial. Insofar as the market
does expand, the reserve army of labour is depleted, and the economic
bargaining position of the working class strengthened. At the same time,
however, technological innovation has a labour-saving bias. The long-term
effect of technological progress under capitalism is therefore to reduce the
labour-time it takes to produce products, and hence ithat increases
unemployment (at the moment, there's about a billion people excluded from
paid labour in the world). But that is merely to say that the ideal
condition for capitalist growth - rising profitability plus expanding
markets, beloved of equilibrium theorists, is very difficult to achieve, and
if it is achieved, can only be sustained for a limited time - there is no
economic force or law in market logic, which can achieve that sustained
growth, i.e. an expansionary dynamic occurs due to factors that the
economics profession generally fails to deal with, precisely BECAUSE they
are obsessed with commercial logic and believe in the inherent goodness,
superiority and rationality of private commercial pursuits. If you say that
capitalist development always culminates in reducing the total amount of
paid labour necessary (with the familiar pattern of a rising OCC and a
falling rate of profit), then that has at two important consequences: (1)
aggregate demand is reduced, and (2) a competitive struggle breaks out over
the allocation of the paid labour that remains. But in this competitive
battle of capitalist business, the repercussions of all that can be
displaced in space and time, precisely through the instrument of credit -
live now, and pay later, and if possible, shift the burden of paying to
someone else - and the hope is, that in the meantime, policy changes can be
implemented, which provide for more sustainable growth in the future. So,
essentially, the resort to credit is an apologetic strategem for capitalist
mismanagement, an unfortunately indispensable modus for accomodating the
system-immanent contradictions of capitalist economic management, which
allows some to prosper while condemning others to live in hell (the
bourgeois hope the hell exists at some safe distance, far removed from the
pleasantness and comforts of bourgeois life). In reality, of course,
equilibrium is not at all created by market logic, you'd have to be a moron
to believe that in view of the facts, rather, this equilibrium is based on
the ownership of private property, and the ability to defend it. The real
question is not who earns what and who pays for what, but who owns what,
and who is the boss. And obviously those who already own wealth, have -
other things being equal - more power to act in defence of their interests,
whereas those who are less strong, who are weaker, seek to resist the
increase in the rate of exploitation, and find alternatives. Marx never
claimed that economic analysis could resolve the problems of capitalism; you
had to overthrow it, get rid of it, replace it with something better, and if
not, the best you could hope for would be to reach a modus videndi with it.
And for their part, the bourgeois hope that 

Jobs and growth

2003-12-14 Thread Seth Sandronsky
Published on Saturday, December 13, 2003 by CommonDreams
In U.S., Jobs Market Blues
by Seth Sandronsky
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colors.
Their daily experiences with the economy are largely absent in mass media
full article:
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/1213-09.htm
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Bus Tour halted in Davis - Take Action

2003-12-14 Thread Seth Sandronsky
Dec. 14

Hi PEN-L:

In Davis, CA, one side of the Mideast story just got silenced.  More info
below.
Seth Sandronsky

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Subject: Bus Tour halted in Davis - Take Action
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 00:20:04 -0600
In this alert:
Action Alert
Events Dec 14-20, 2003
ACTION ALERT

The national Wheels of Justice National Bus tour (www.justicewheels.org),
which seeks to educate and mobilize people around ending the U.S. supported
occupations of Iraq and Palestine, was scheduled to give presentations at
Davis High School on Monday, December 15.  However, the school principal
Mike Cawley received calls charging that the bus was anti-Jewish, a charge
refuted (see below) by organizers of and participants on the bus (with whom
Cawley did not speak).   This appears to be part of a national effort of
groups that support the Israeli occupation of Palestine to prevent the bus
from getting its message out.  The instructor offered to allow the anti-bus
group to address students at another time, but this option was rejected and
instead the visit cancelled.
Please call, write, fax, and/or email Davis High School principal Mike
Cawley, the school board, city county and/or county supervisor (all contact
information is at the end of this message) and express your concern that
students have been deprived of a unique education opportunity, instead
receiving a lesson about the repression of freedom of speech.  Ask that he
reconsider and let the bus come (it is possible the bus could come on
Tuesday, 12-16).
You can also come and hear the bus participants speak Monday, December 15,
7pm at the Newman Center, 5900 Newman Center, Sacramento.
STATEMENT FROM THE WHEELS OF JUSTICE TOUR:
Wheels Of Justice Tour Responds To Spurious Charges Of Anti-Semitism In
Davis
Saturday, Dec. 13, 2003
   The Wheels of Justice countrywide bus tour recently has been accused of
espousing anti-Semitism for its attempt to educate Californians about the
current realities of life in Iraq and Palestine.  A Davis High School
teacher who had invited people on the tour to speak to six of his and his
colleagues' classes was forced to withdraw the invitation due to pressure
from some Davis residents.
   Operating on the dual pillars of universal human rights and nonviolence,
the Wheels of Justice tour brings into communities eyewitnesses who have
seen the effects of war and occupation on civilian populations in Iraq and
Palestine, said John Farrell, a speaker on the tour.  Our programs have
included multimedia presentations, talks and nonviolence education at public
schools, churches, and community centers.
   The tour began four months ago in Chicago and will ultimately visit the
48 contiguous states.  Wheels of Justice is sponsored by Middle East
Children's Alliance (MECA), Voices in the Wilderness, Al-Awda (The
Palestinian Right of Return Coalition) and affiliates of the International
Solidarity Movement.
   Rabbi Greg Wolfe was the principal spokesman for the segment of the
Jewish community in Davis that opposed the tour.  Don Winters, the U.S.
history teacher who had asked Wheels of Justice to visit Davis High School,
offered Wolfe a chance to share his perspective with students at a later
date.  Wolfe declined and instead insisted that Wheels of Justice not come
to the school.
   It is a shame that students at Davis High School have been denied the
chance to meet, speak with and learn from activists who have traveled to
Iraq and Palestine and witnessed the suffering of the people living under
military occupation there, said Lauren Anzaldo, a speaker on the tour who
lived for two months this summer in Jenin, occupied Palestine.  They have
truly lost a great interactive learning opportunity.
   The Wheels of Justice tour has faced opposition in other California
cities.  In Palo Alto, two protesters came to a Human Rights Day rally
dressed as suicide bombers.  An organization called Dafka had urged
opponents of the tour to stage such a demonstration.  The Jewish Community
Relations Council (JCRC), a Bay-area group, managed to bar the bus from
visiting an after-school program in San Francisco.
   The spurious allegations of anti-Jewish sentiment seem to arise from the
tour's position on the right of Palestinian refugees to return to the homes
they were expelled from in 1948 when the state of Israel was created and in
1967 during the Six Day War.  Some consider the right of return, enshrined
in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and United Nations resolution
194, a threat to Israel because it would undermine Jewish majority and
Jewish control of the state.
   There is nothing in the bus' message that is anti-Semitic, said
Mitchell Plitnick of Jewish Voice for Peace in Oakland.  The bus criticizes
Israeli government policy but says nothing derogatory about the Jewish
people.
CONTACT INFORMATION:

DAVIS HIGH SCHOOL (315 W 14th  St, Davis)
Mike Cawley, Principal
Tel (530) 757-5400; ext 4; 

Re: Estimating the surplus\Doug's question\Fred's comments

2003-12-14 Thread Fred B. Moseley
Paul, thanks for your comments.  My responses below.


On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Paul wrote:

 Fred,
 Very glad you could make it - you were missed!  I want to think more about
 your post but have one small and one larger reflection.

 1.  I think we can all agree on the big focus of profit rates, as Paul
 put it - that the rate of profit is the most important variable in
 analyzing capitalism.  And I agree with Paul that this emphasis on profit
 and the rate of profit is what distinguishes classical-Marxian theories
 from neo-classical theories.

 In addition to Doug's main point ('show me the benefit of all this'), Doug
 does make me wonder whether my description of the Classical/Marxian
 approach should have been more specific (although the change might prove
 more narrow-minded). As you know well, historically, the Classical
 tradition focused on profits/profit rate but broke this down into the
 changes that emerge from the labor\capital shares AND the changes that
 emerge from what I was calling the 'capital side' (with lots of differences
 and inconsistencies among Classical authors).  Of course, since Sraffa
 there has been an intelligent and articulate revival of interest in
 Classical presentations of the first issue (wage/profit frontiers, etc)
 WITHOUT the capital side.  The discussion with Doug illustrates a point:
 without the 'capital side' just how useful is such a presentation?  Doug
 gave good examples of how similar arguments could be made sticking to a
 Keyensian\Kaleckian tradition that is more accessible to most.  (Of course
 Doug is also skeptical of the value of this approach even with the capital
 side, but that is a different discussion.)

I agree that the capital side (i.e. the composition of capital) is an
important determinant of the rate of profit.  (I prefer to discuss this in
terms of Marx's concept of the composition of capital, rather than the
mainstream concept of the productivity of capital which I think is
misleading.)  The increase in the composition of capital in the early
postwar period was an important cause of the decline of the rate of profit
in that period, and the decrease in the composition of capital in recent
decades has been the main cause of the partial recovery of the rate of
profit.  So clearly, theory and analysis of the rate of profit should
include the composition of capital.

I also agree that this is an important distinguishing feature of Marx's
theory, in contrast to Ricardo's theory and Sraffa's theory and all other
economic theories, which if they consider the rate of profit at all,
generally consider only the share of profit and ignore the composition of
capital.


 ...
 6.  I have suggested another explanation of these important trends, one
 based on Marx's distinction between productive labor and unproductive
 labor - that an important cause of the declines in the share and the rate
 of profit was a very significant increase in the ratio of unproductive
 labor to productive labor.  I am not sure that this is the correct
 explanation of these trends, but I think it may be, and I think that it
 worthwhile to at least consider what Marx's theory implies about the
 causes of these trends and the likely prospects for the future.
 
 And one important advantage that this theory has over the profit squeeze
 explanation is that it provides a consistent explanation of why the share
 and rate of profit have only partially recovered in recent decades, in
 spite of the loss of workers' power and stagnant real wages - because the
 ratio of unproductive to productive labor has continued to increase.
 
 This theory also provides an important prediction about the future - that
 if the ratio of unproductive to productive labor continues to increase (as
 I expect), then the recovery of the share and rate of profit will continue
 to be slow and partial, thus leading to more wage cuts, speed-up,
 etc.  According to this theory, the US economy is definitely NOT at the
 beginning of another long-wave period of growth and prosperity, similar
 to the early postwar period (with steady real wage increases).  The only
 partial recovery of the share and rate of profit makes such a return to
 more prosperous conditions very unlikely.

 You have made me think about what is the nature of a long wave
 upturn.  Here are some quick thoughts and concerns.

 1.  a. Of course these are waves, not cycles (as in Kondratieff,
 investment-accelerator, etc).  It is not even as if a simple mechanism such
 as the falling of the price of capital in a downturn will, in
 itself,  produce an upturn.

  b. The up and the down of these waves are not symmetrical. While
 there are forces common and inherent in the accumulation process to
 downturns (tendencies to a rising OCC, etc), the upturns require
 exceptional events that are not inherently produced by the downturn
 process.  Mostly these require some combination of major technological
 change AND socio-political 

Re: Estimating the surplus\Doug's question

2003-12-14 Thread Fred B. Moseley
Hi Jim, thanks for your good questions.  A few responses below.


On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Devine, James wrote:

 Hi, Fred.

 you write:
  6.  I have suggested another explanation of these important
  trends, one
  based on Marx's distinction between productive labor and unproductive
  labor - that an important cause of the declines in the share
  and the rate
  of profit was a very significant increase in the ratio of unproductive
  labor to productive labor.  I am not sure that this is the correct
  explanation of these trends, but I think it may be, and I
  think that it
  worthwhile to at least consider what Marx's theory implies about the
  causes of these trends and the likely prospects for the future.
 
  And one important advantage that this theory has over the
  profit squeeze
  explanation is that it provides a consistent explanation of
  why the share
  and rate of profit have only partially recovered in recent decades, in
  spite of the loss of workers' power and stagnant real wages -
  because the
  ratio of unproductive to productive labor has continued to increase.

 A big question: _why_ does the ratio of unproductive to productive
 labor increase over time? if this ratio is squeezing profits, it seems
 that profit-seeking capitalists would make an effort to lower it. or is
 there some sort of technological or social imperative that pushes
 capitalists to increase the ratio anyway? or is it a matter of it being
 good for capitalists as individuals to raise the ratio even though it's
 bad for capital as a whole?

This is indeed a big and important question, and I think the answer is a
combination of the types of things that you have suggested.  I discuss
this question at some length in Chapter 5 of my 1992 book (The Falling
Rate of Profit in the Postwar US Economy).  It is complicated because the
category of unproductive labor is a mixed bag of different kinds of labor
(circulation labor and supervisory labor and subgroups of each), and the
increase of each of these different kinds of unproductive labor may be due
to different causes.

The main conclusion that I came to in this chapter is that the main cause
of the increase of circulation labor (roughly two-thirds of the total) is
that during this period the productivity of productive labor increased
faster than the productivity of sales labor, thereby requiring a relative
increase of the latter in order to sell the more rapidly increasing output
of the former.  The classic example is the auto industry.  The quantity of
autos produced per productive worker increases much more rapidly than the
quantity of autos sold by salesperson (which remains a largely
labor-intensive, person-to-person activity).

An interesting corollary of this explanation is that the computer
revolution has been one way to increase the productivity of unproductive
labor, and therefore slow down the increase in the number of unproductive
workers.  Indeed, much of the computer revolution has been aimed at
reducing unproductive labor (sales, accounting, debt-credit,
etc.).  Therefore, Marx's theory suggests that the rapid development of
computer technology in recent decades has been due in part to the
systematic imperative to reduce unproductive labor in order to restore the
rate of profit.


 alternatively, it could be that the geographical unit of analysis is
 wrong. What if the US-based operations of capital are specializing in
 what Marxists term unproductive labor, while exporting the
 productive jobs to other countries? In that case, we should be
 calculating the world-wide rate of profit, no?


Yes, I think the increasing geographical specialization of recent decades
(productive labor in the rest of the world, unproductive labor in the
US) is part of the explanation of the relative increase of unproductive
labor in the US.


  This theory also provides an important prediction about the
  future - that
  if the ratio of unproductive to productive labor continues to
  increase (as
  I expect), then the recovery of the share and rate of profit
  will continue
  to be slow and partial, thus leading to more wage cuts, speed-up,
  etc.  According to this theory, the US economy is definitely
  NOT at the
  beginning of another long-wave period of growth and
  prosperity, similar
  to the early postwar period (with steady real wage
  increases).  The only
  partial recovery of the share and rate of profit makes such a
  return to
  more prosperous conditions very unlikely.

 why can't the ratio of unproductive to productive spending change
 quickly in the future? didn't something like that happen in the 1990s,
 lowering the ratio?

 One indicator of what happened can be seen in Michael Reich's 1998
 article Are U.S. Corporations Top-Heavy? Managerial Ratios in Advanced
 Capitalist Countries (in the REVIEW OF RADICAL POLITICAL ECONOMICS,
 vol. 30, no. 3, 33-45). Reich's data on p. 37 show a rise in the
 management ratio until 1982 or so -- fitting with David Gordon's fat
 and 

Re: Estimating the surplus\Doug's question

2003-12-14 Thread Fred B. Moseley
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, paul phillips wrote:

 Devine, James wrote:

 Hi, Fred.
 
 you write:
 
 
 spite of the loss of workers' power and stagnant real wages -
 because the
 ratio of unproductive to productive labor has continued to increase.
 
 
 
 A big question: _why_ does the ratio of unproductive to productive labor increase 
 over time? if this ratio is squeezing profits, it seems that profit-seeking 
 capitalists would make an effort to lower it. or is there some sort of 
 technological or social imperative that pushes capitalists to increase the ratio 
 anyway? or is it a matter of it being good for capitalists as individuals to raise 
 the ratio even though it's bad for capital as a whole?
 
 why the ratio rises is important. For example, if we posit that demand-side 
 stagnation has been the rule of late, that would push up the ratio (for a few 
 years, at least) in that unproductive labor is typically overhead labor, while 
 productive labor is laid off. However, this explanation doesn't fit the waves of 
 downsizing (thinning out of management, etc.) that hit US business during the 
 1990s. (see below)
 
 
 
 Jim,

 I tried to offer one suggestion in my post a few days ago.  In the
 1970s, corporations attempted to restore the profit level through price
 increases (leading to a price-wage spiral) which was cut off by the
 recession of the 1980s.  Since that time, we have been in a period of
 demand constraint.  As a result, increasing productivity has been met by
 downsizing and wage restraint resulting in stagnant wages which leads,
 as you point out, to an underconsumption undertow.  Major corporations
 respond to this demand constraint by increasing  promotion, marketing
 and advertising thereby increasing the ratio of unproductive to
 productive labour.  But given globalisation and Asian competition, firms
 can't raise prices to match the increased cost of unproductive labour.
  They respond by trying to cut managers, etc.  In the 1990s, they were
 aided by technological change in white collar work (i.e.
 computerization) which reduced the relative demand for/employment of
 unproductive labour. (My figures for Canada indicate a significant
 decline in the employment of certain types of secretarial and clerical
 labour in the early 1990s.)
 But  given the deflationary effect of global competition using low-wage
 3rd world labour, 1st world corporations are unable to raise prices to
 restore (realized) profitability.  Thus, the profit recovery in the
 1990s was only partial in the light of continuing need to increase
 unproductive selling/marketing expenditures despite the rise in
 productive worker productivity.  To the extent that the growth in
 non-productive worker productivity is on a declining projectory,   there
 is little to give hope for a new long-term, profit-based expansion based
 on technological change, at least in North America and Europe where the
 ratio of productive to unproductive labour is already so low.

 I think my read on this is similar to Fred's.  If not, I would be glad
 to hear, and if so, why?


Paul, yes, I think our readings are very similar.  Would you please send
me any articles that you have written on this subject (or the
references)?  I look forward to further discussion.

Comradely,
Fred


Re: Estimating the surplus\Doug's question\Fred's comments

2003-12-14 Thread Fred B. Moseley
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Mike Ballard wrote:

 I'm obviously not an economist.

 Just a wondering Wobbly,


Mike, what a great description!
I wish there were more wondering Wobblies!

Comradely, Fred


Re: Estimating the surplus\Doug's question

2003-12-14 Thread Fred B. Moseley
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Devine, James wrote:

 Paul,. your story makes sense (though I'd add a lot). My question is
 for Fred, though. The classical Marxian story stresses the role of the
 organic composition rising due to some societal or technological
 imperative. For Fred, the rise of the ratio of productive to
 unproductive labor costs has replaced -- or now complements -- that's
 story. I wanted to know his logic.


Jim, I argue that the increase of unproductive labor complements the
increase of the composition of capital.  The rate of profit varies
inversely with both of these, and varies positively with the rate of
surplus-value.

The simple algebra of this Marxian theory of the conventional rate of
profit is as follows (as I am sure you know):


RP = P / K

   = S - U / C + Ku

   = [ S/V - U/V ] / [ C/V + Ku/V ]


Comradely,
Fred


Re: Estimating the surplus\Doug's question\Fred's comments

2003-12-14 Thread Fred B. Moseley
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003, Doug Henwood wrote:

 Fred Mosley wrote:

 6.  I have suggested another explanation of these important trends, one
 based on Marx's distinction between productive labor and unproductive
 labor - that an important cause of the declines in the share and the rate
 of profit was a very significant increase in the ratio of unproductive
 labor to productive labor.  I am not sure that this is the correct
 explanation of these trends, but I think it may be, and I think that it
 worthwhile to at least consider what Marx's theory implies about the
 causes of these trends and the likely prospects for the future.
 
 And one important advantage that this theory has over the profit squeeze
 explanation is that it provides a consistent explanation of why the share
 and rate of profit have only partially recovered in recent decades, in
 spite of the loss of workers' power and stagnant real wages - because the
 ratio of unproductive to productive labor has continued to increase.
 
 This theory also provides an important prediction about the future - that
 if the ratio of unproductive to productive labor continues to increase (as
 I expect), then the recovery of the share and rate of profit will continue
 to be slow and partial, thus leading to more wage cuts, speed-up,
 etc.  According to this theory, the US economy is definitely NOT at the
 beginning of another long-wave period of growth and prosperity, similar
 to the early postwar period (with steady real wage increases).  The only
 partial recovery of the share and rate of profit makes such a return to
 more prosperous conditions very unlikely.

 Why should a national economy be the unit of analysis? Why can't U.S.
 capitalists and a significant portion of the U.S. population propser
 by appropriating the SV produced by, say, Chinese workers? Wal-Mart
 is a profit machine - is it productive or unproductive?


Hi Doug, you are right that the appropriate unit of analysis is the world
economy, and that surplus-value produced by e.g. Chinese workers is
appropriated by US capitalists.  But since this surplus-value is
appropriated by US capitalists, it is mostly included in the estimates of
profits in the US NIPAs.

But this international aspect does mean that the estimates of the ratio of
unproductive labor to productive labor in the US are overestimated.

Comradely,
Fred


Re: Estimating the surplus\Doug's question

2003-12-14 Thread Fred B. Moseley
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003, Doug Henwood wrote:

 Fred B. Moseley wrote:

 5.  The most popular radical-Marxian explanation of these profit rate
 trends has been the reserve army profit squeeze theory - that low
 unemployment rates in the late 1960s and early 1970s increased workers
 power, and enable them to gain substantial wage increases and to squeeze
 profits.  This theory then explains the increase in the rate of profit on
 the higher rates of unemployment and the loss of workers' power in recent
 decades.  This seems to be Doug's explanation of these trends.
 
 However, this profit squeeze theory does not provide a very good
 explanation of the only-partial recovery of the rate of profit, and
 especially the share of profit, in recent decades.  One would think that,
 if greater worker power leading to wage increases in the 1960s and 70s
 caused the profit share to decline, then surely the last three decades of
 wage-cuts, speed-up on the job, and the general attack on workers and
 unions should have fully restored the profit share by now.

 Why fully restored? The 1950s and 1960s were a Golden Age with few if
 any historical precedents that followed the worst depression in
 history. The corporate sector had net losses in 1932 and 1933,
 something it's never come close to replicating since. But the
 corporate profit share of GDP rose from the low of 5.2% in 1982 to
 8.7% in 1997, a 67% increase. Sure it's below the 10-11% levels of
 the mid-1960s, but it's a major recovery. And though I haven't gotten
 a chance to analyze the latest benchmark revision of the NIPAs, they
 show a very substantial rise in profits in 2001 and 2002 - an amazing
 performance in a recession and weak recovery.

You are comparing a cyclical low (1982) with a cyclical high (1997).
And do your estimates include interest?

The estimates of the (profit + interest) share show cyclical ups and
downs, but very little overall increase since the 1970s.



 The 1982-97 and 2001-2002 profit recoveries happened despite an
 increase in what you call unproductive labor. Why?

In part because of the cyclical effects of higher capacity utilization
rates, but also over the long-term because of a very significant
increase in the rate of surplus-value, the ratio of the surplus-value
produced by productive workers to the wages of productive workers (S/V in
the following equation for the Marxian determination of the conventional
rate of profit, included in a prior post):


RP = P / K

   = S - U / C + Ku

   = [ S/V - U/V ] / [ C/V + Ku/V ]



Comradely,
Fred


Re: Norway: oil and Kant

2003-12-14 Thread michael
This is very interesting.  I always regarded Norway as the Gold Standard in
rational oil exploitation.

--

Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
Chico, CA 95929
530-898-5321
fax 530-898-5901


Re: Estimating the surplus\Doug's question

2003-12-14 Thread Doug Henwood
Fred B. Moseley wrote:

You are comparing a cyclical low (1982) with a cyclical high (1997).
And do your estimates include interest?
1997 was four years before the cyclical high, actually. But the 1982
low was in many ways - political as well as economic - a point of
structural reversal. Mexico's debt crisis marked the onset of
neoliberal restructuring of the world; the stock market took off at
almost the same minute as the Mexican quasi-default; and the Reagan
boom was about to begin. That was about a lot more than a business
cycle - it was about a whole new regime of accumulation.
Doug


In my life

2003-12-14 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
I thought we could generate a million dollars for the company and reach a
million people with the extraordinary story of Playboy and its impact on the
world of literature, design, ideas and art, says Christie Hefner, chairman
and CEO of Playboy Enterprises, the founder's daughter. We know we have
collectors, so we thought that instead of engaging in private negotiations
to sell part of the collection, we would have a public auction, where anyone
anywhere can own a piece of Playboy.

Source:
http://www.latimes.com/features/lifestyle/la-ca-emerling14dec14,1,4718901.st
ory?coll=la-home-style

During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes
constantly hounded them, received their theories with the most savage
malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies
and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into
harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a
certain extent for the consolation of the oppressed classes and with the
object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the
revolutionary theory of its substance, blunting its revolutionary edge and
vulgarizing it.

Source:
http://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/ch01.htm#s1


Extending the Dutch occupying forces

2003-12-14 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Dutch troops in Iraq will be relieved in January and the replacement troops
will start transferring power to the Iraqis in March. The troops will
gradually withdraw from cities and villages. They are currently carrying out
patrols, engaged in the provision of armed escorts to convoys or manning
surveillance posts in the region.

Meanwhile, it has been estimated that there are between several hundred to
thousands of extremists and Al Qaeda volunteers in Al Muthanna. There are
also between 3,000 and 4,000 former soldiers of Saddam Hussein's Republican
Guard in the province.

But the marines will soon be reinforced by 600 Japanese troops after the
Asian nation's Cabinet made an historic decision this week to deploy the
soldiers. The Japanese will mainly be involved in humanitarian projects.

[Copyright Expatica News 2003]

Full story:
http://www.expatica.com/source/site_article.asp?subchannel_id=1story_id=309
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Saddam

2003-12-14 Thread Michael Perelman
I am surprised that they caught him so early.  I thought that it would
come closer to the election.  But then, since he has doubles, maybe they
could catch a Saddam every few weeks.
 --
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Saddam's capture, Bush's victory?

2003-12-14 Thread Chris Burford
Bush appeared to be unusually cautious in his victory televison
broadcast, which seemed to be crafted towards Iraqis rather than US
electors. That is at least one achievement of Saddam's resistance and
that of the wider Iraqi people.

But if the allied invasion of Iraq was illegal, so was the capture of
its leader.

Behind the repeated degrading images of the prisoner with his mouth
being examined and his hair in disarray - worse than images that
caused indignation when it was US military who had been captured and
paraded in front of the cameras - was the question of whether this
means total victory.

Bush was wise to say ``The capture of Saddam Hussein does not mean the
end of violence in Iraq, presumably excluding allied troops from ever
being the perpetrators or provokers of violence themselves.

The trial will have to be on the grounds of crimes against humanity
rather than being on the wrong side in geopolitics. Saddam would have
much to reveal.

And the worse crimes were in the context of conflict and instability -
as so often happens in history - in which the US and the west had a
major part  -
the war against Iran, where Iraq was the ally of the US, and the
events after Iraq's defeat in which the Saddam regime brutally
supressed an uprising.

Yes according to the prevailing conventions of international law for
Iraq to invade Kuwait was a breach of sovereignty, but in the context
of the history of Mesopotamia over thousands of years it was hardly
illogical. For Britain and the US to invade in the 21st century
required them to show, that unlike the majority of the Security
Council they turned out to be right about WMD if you accept the
questionable logic on which Blair persuaded Bush to debate with the
UN.

Presumably in preparation for an authoritative trial the Bush
administration will have to hope that second level commanders will
reveal many details of WMD more shocking than battlefield chemical
weapons.

At his news conference Maj Gen Odierno revealed that he thought that
it unlikely that Saddam had been personally directing the
(increasingly effective) resistance to the allied occupation. That
presumably reflects the prevailing view among the top levels of the US
military in Iraq and may be very significant.

After the inital psychological blow of Saddam's capture to those
personally loyal to him, it is even possible that his capture
will lead to a more sustained  campaign of military resistance against
the occupying forces and the imposition of a US led finance capitalist
economy. For some Saddam will be a martyr and hero, but his capture
may make it in fact easier for all Iraqi nationalists to network on
the basis of anti-Americanism rather than support for the old regime.

An American rout in Iraq is still possible, however much it will be
smoothed over in the polite language of diplomatic exchanges between
the leading imperialist powers, who are all positioning themselves
carefully today in the way they phrase their enthusiasm for the
capture of Saddam.

There are no ideal standards of justice that stand above material
history, whether identified by Kant or not.

Concepts of justice are shaped by the balance of forces and are only
partially independent of material interest. But from the point of view
of the democratic material interests of the working people of the
world although basic bourgeois legal rights are an important defence
against naked class oppression, what is even more important in this
context is that the US administration aided by its loyal allies such
as Britain should not be able to impose their will on a population
through shock and awe.

 Ironically and hopefully the most important result of the capture of
Saddam might be that the working people of Iraq can find a basis for
uniting their diverse interests in favour of genuine independence and
sovereignty.

The assassination of Iraqis cooperating with the allied occupation
will be a test of whether such a unity can emerge, and unfortunately
suggests that even if the invasion ends in a rout for the occupying
forces, it will be Iraqis who will pay the biggest price.

If we see some equivalent of black on black violence developing, as
in the last days of the apartheid regime, we should ask what forces
are behind that, and why did it come about in the first place, when
the people of the two historic rivers need to be able to live in peace
together, and engage in economic activity and rule their own lives
without being dominated by superpowers or global finance capitalist
corporations.

Initial thoughts.

Chris Burford
London


Re: Wolf on Renminbi Flexibility

2003-12-14 Thread dsquared
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 13:16:55 -0500, Michael Pollak
wrote:


 [I thought this was a surprising good discussion that
 covered all the
 bases.]


Interesting though, that the general principle that in
a fixed rate system the burden of adjustment falls on
the deficit country, is completely ignored; ie the
entire problem is framed as a question about what
*China* will do ...

dd


Foreign policy

2003-12-14 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Saddam Hussein should be trialed in Iraq, said Minister Bot of Foreign
Affairs on Sunday, in response to the arrest of the former dictator.
Trialing by an international tribunal would give a wrong signal towards
Iraq. Iraqi's had indicated that they want to handle things themselves, said
the Minister. By trialing in Iraq we can show that we have confidence in
the independent ability of Iraqi's.   In Iraq there is now a purge
happening, said Bot, creating an opportunity for accounting for the past. A
trial in their own land fits with this. The arrest of Saddam would
accelerate the political development of Iraq, the Minister expected. It
takes away a shadow which surrounded Iraq. So long as he had not been
captured, his supporters continued to be preoccupied to clear the path for
his return. Bot estimated that the number of attacks will now decrease, but
warns that it will not be love and peace in Iraq for a long time. He fears
that other groups will continue the terrorist struggle.
He thinks that the role of the Dutch military in South Iraq will only become
more important now. Now that the country can navigate quieter waters, their
contribution to stability would gain more leverage. I am very optimistic
about it. Bot heard about the arrest of Saddam via CNN. That the US did not
notify him personally was something he considered not such a problem,
despite the presence of Dutch troops in Iraq. (...) Parlementarian Van der
Laan (Progressive Liberals) thinks that the psychological effect of Saddam's
arrest could be very great. The myth of dying rather than surrendering to
the Americans is now pricked through. I hope that the images of his arrest
will be seen throughout Iraq so that everybody  can see that it's just a
crazy old man. She expects local leaders who are still afraid for the
erstwhile dictator will dare to choose the side of reconstruction. But the
Dutch military must remain guarded. It isn't Disneyland over there all of a
sudden. It remains a very dangerous area.

http://www.volkskrant.nl/denhaag/107135137.html

Clark insisted his early release as Supreme NATO Commander of the Allied
Forces by Clinton Defense Secretary William Cohen was not a firing. I was
suddenly called and told I would have to give up command early. I was told
at the time I was not being fired. I was told at the time it was just an
administrative matter, he said. Clark said Pentagon brass did not like his
urgent calls to prevent the ethnic cleansing of 1.5 million Albanians in the
province of Kosovo under former President Slobodan Milosovic. Frankly, I
was told to mind my own business, that they were too busy in the Pentagon
dealing with Congress to hear any commander in the field report there might
be problems coming. That's not adequate, Clark said.

Source: http://www.muslimnews.co.uk/news/news.php?sub=909


Re: Question re basics

2003-12-14 Thread Ralph Johansen
Jurriaan, thank you for your thoughtful response. I dug out a passage of
Sweezy's here, one of the occasions when he attempted to formulate the
problem that he saw and found no answers to. And as I said yesterday, I
haven't seen it yet either, so I'm inquiring. Here he's been discussing
Keynes in an interview conducted by E. Ahmet Tonak [MR Apr 1987]:

I think that Marxists have a certain defensiveness about Keynes: we mustn't
take seriously a bourgeois thinker because it may infect us and we may turn
out to be revisionists without wanting to be, you know. I don't think that's
such a danger as long as you internalize the basic structure of Marxism,
which is, of course, embodied in and summed up in the value theory and the
accumulation theory, surplus value theory, all of that. That's absolutely
crucial. there is no need to lose these basic insights which are based on a
very intimate knowledge of the real business world - which of course, Marx
also had in his day. But which Marxists taking their stuff out of
Capital, can't have in our day. This whole business of finance which I was
talking about last night. The present financial explosion which is
unprecedented can't be handled in terms of the hints in Volume III about
finance. Although, they are not unuseful, not without considerable value.
The whole notion of an abbreviated accumulation formula, M-M', without any
production element M-C, is a very fruitful way of thinking about finance,
how it is possible for M' to relate only to M without the system of
[production in the middle. But that's what's happening all the time now. If
we don't think about this, if we assume that finance is only an aspect of
the circulation of commodities, we're not going to understand a lot of what
goes on in the world today. I must say, my own feeling is that this is an
area where nobody has done really very well. I sometimes have the feeling
that economics is now in need of a general theory, in the sense that physics
seems to be in need of a general theory, i.e., that there are a lot of
things going on that don't fit into the standard physical theories. And they
are looking for a general field theory which would unify all of it. They
don't have it yet. In economics we need a theory which integrates finance
and production, the circuits of capital of a financial and a real productive
character much more effectively than our traditional theories do. I don't
see that anyone is actually producing it, but it's terribly complicated. And
I'm sure that I'm too old to be able to think of those things. I can get
snatches, insights here and there, but I can't put it together into a
comprehensive theoretical framework. I think it will take somebody who
starts differently and isn't so totally dominated by M-C-M', the industrial
circuit, with the financial circuits always being treated as epiphenomenal,
not part of the essential reality. I don't know if you are familiar with the
book The Faltering Economy edited by Foster and Szlajfer?

Ralph


- Original Message -
From: Jurriaan Bendien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 3:53 AM
Subject: Re: Question re basics


  It has to do with the connection between the accumulation of capital
  ascribable to the creation of surplus value on one side, and the
cascading
  mountainous accretion of debt instruments on the other, the whole
  multi-trillion dollar financial complex. How, basically, do the two
 connect
  in a framework consistent with what Marx wrote? I had assumed without
 being
  able at my level of comprehension to elaborate,  that all credit
  creation rests ultimately, fantastic as it might seem, on call-ins of
  indebtedness to the creators of the surplus value,
  the working class [of course, Sweezy called it 'surplus'].

 Why exactly is it so necessary to connect in a way consistent with what
 Marx wrote ? Can we not think for ourselves ? If you start off with a
false
 or dogmatically held premise, then you are driven ineluctably to
 contradictory thinking at the very least, but that too could be a source
of
 creativity. The issue you raise is very complex, it's a bit like
explaining
 how people can travel to the moon - it can be done, but it takes a lot of
 time. Ernest Mandel tackled this question (he considered Schumpeter one of
 the most important 20th century bourgeois economists) because, contrary to
 Trotskyist expectations, capitalism boomed after world war 2, and then the
 question arose, whether this was due to human error, to a faulty analysis
of
 bourgeois society, or to something inherent in the capitalist system which
 had still to be discovered. Technological revolutions are an intrinsic
 feature of capitalist development, but as you know, capitalism is by - its
 very structure - intrinsically incompatible with long-term steady growth,
it
 develops spasmodically through booms and busts which we can plot in
squiggly
 graphs. Thus, under specific conditions, new 

academic capitalism redux

2003-12-14 Thread Eubulides
[Los Angeles Times]
Digging for Oil on Campus
ChevronTexaco is giving $5 million to USC to develop new technologies for
recovering fossil fuels. Is this the 'corporatization' of academia?
By Nancy Rivera Brooks
Times Staff Writer

December 14, 2003

The hunt for lower-cost oil and natural gas has taken ChevronTexaco Corp.
from Alaska to the Middle East.

Now the search has brought the San Ramon, Calif., company to a truly
exotic location: USC.

ChevronTexaco is giving $5 million to USC's School of Engineering to
develop advanced technologies that will, the company and USC hope, figure
out how to suck fossil fuels from the ground more cheaply and efficiently.

We, in effect, are opening a company office at USC, said Donald L. Paul,
vice president and chief technology officer for ChevronTexaco.

Corporate-college research linkups aren't new. But USC and others have
become increasingly aggressive in seeking out company money to replace
eroding government funds and offer programs that will attract students who
want degrees they figure will lead surely to jobs.

Critics call these efforts the corporatization of academia and see the
potential for conflicts of interest and other problems, such as companies
trying to squelch the release of research they helped underwrite.
Corporations, which have long shelled out big bucks to get their names on
buildings, now are trying to influence the curriculum, the detractors say.

There's a very important and legitimate role for universities to play in
working with industry to try to speed the translation of academic research
findings into useful products, said former Harvard University President
Derek Bok, who has written a book on the subject. But universities need
to be encouraged to do it the right way and not get into bad habits.

The origin of research funds can affect not just the research subject but
also the results, studies show. In a report published in January in the
Journal of the American Medical Assn., Yale University investigators said
that industry-sponsored biomedical research was 3.6 times more likely to
produce results favoring the company footing the bill than research funded
in other ways, such as by the federal government and foundations.

Sheldon Krimsky, a Tufts University professor of urban and environmental
policy and planning, has spent more than two decades probing the
relationship between researchers and corporations, including financial
connections between faculty and companies. The results are troubling,
particularly in the arena of biomedical research but also in other areas,
said Krimsky, author of the newly published Science in the Private
Interest.

In how many of the chemicals that we do not regulate, or regulate poorly,
was the research based upon studies that were funded by the chemical
companies? Krimsky asked.

He argues that a hard line should be drawn, particularly in drug and other
research that directly affects consumers.

Why are we treating scientists differently from judges or politicians?
Krimsky said. In most of those areas, we have prohibited conflicts of
interest, but in science it's quite different.

Last year, Stanford University was criticized when it announced plans for
a $225-million center that would develop technology to combat greenhouse
gas emissions linked to global warming. Much of the money for the 10-year
Global Climate and Energy Project would come from companies, including
Exxon Mobil Corp., that produce the oil and gas blamed for generating the
emissions. Stanford is moving forward with the project anyway.

UC Berkeley was blasted in 1998 for accepting a five-year grant of $25
million to its department of plant and microbial biology from
biotechnology corporation Novartis Co. The money represented more than a
third of the department's annual funding, and naysayers feared it would
give the Swiss company too much leverage over research. But despite fears
of conflicts sharp enough to prompt state Senate hearings, that five-year
affiliation ended quietly last month with scant evidence of problems.

So far, USC has largely avoided controversy, though it has been aggressive
in pursuing corporate support. The university says it has controls in
place to preserve its academic integrity. In the case of the ChevronTexaco
partnership, university officials say both sides clearly will benefit.

The grant is bankrolling the establishment of the Center for Interactive
Smart Oilfield Technology, where corporate and university scientists are
to work side by side to create oil fields that pretty much run themselves.

The plan is for ChevronTexaco to contribute production data from its oil
fields - normally closely held corporate secrets - and for USC researchers
to supply such developments as three-dimensional imaging technologies and
expertise in signal transmission. Ownership of any software or gadgets
invented by researchers would be subject to negotiation.

The effort could lead to a way to remotely drill and operate wells 

Re: Question re basics

2003-12-14 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 12/14/03 1:12:16 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

The present financial explosion which is unprecedented can't be handled in
terms of the hints in Volume III about finance. Although, they are not
unuseful, not without considerable value. The whole notion of an abbreviated
accumulation formula, M-M', without any
production element M-C, is a very fruitful way of thinking about finance,
how it is possible for M' to relate only to M without the system of
[production in the middle. But that's what's happening all the time now. If
we don't think about this, if we assume that finance is only an aspect of
the circulation of commodities, we're not going to understand a lot of what
goes on in the world today. I must say, my own feeling is that this is an
area where nobody has done really very well. . . . In economics we need a
theory which integrates finance and production, the circuits of capital of a
financial and a real productive
character much more effectively than our traditional theories do. I don't
see that anyone is actually producing it, but it's terribly complicated. And
I'm sure that I'm too old to be able to think of those things. I can get
snatches, insights here and there, but I can't put it together into a
comprehensive theoretical framework. I think it will take somebody who
starts differently and isn't so totally dominated by M-C-M', the industrial
circuit, with the financial circuits always being treated as epiphenomenal,
not part of the essential reality. I don't know if you are familiar with the
book The Faltering Economy edited by Foster and Szlajfer?

Ralph

Comment

This summarizes my life experience as a communist and Marxist who lacks any
theoretical depth in the mechanics of financial matters. M-M' is the essence of
my life experience or the money form of expanded value being reproduced
outside the logic of production of real commodities. Speculation and interest is
very old but always had a direct and indirect bearing on the production of
tangible assets.

As a non-economist the dialogue on productive and nonproductive labor has me
baffled in the sense that labor that doesn't directly impact the production
process is not unproductive because it is an aspect of circulation -
distribution, of the tangible. To realize a profit, a commodity must be sold and the
value returned to the owner.

Is not unproductive labor - at this juncture of history, as we live out our
current reality M-M'?

Is not M-M' the proof of a new polarity that detaches price from value? Not
simply fictitious capital - paper and bonds that in the last instance were
connected to the production of tangibles - commodities, in the past but
speculation detached from production in the absolute sense. As I understand matters -
probably incorrectly, even a derivative was derived from a tangible asset or a
mathematical equation that projected the value relationship - probability, of a
tangible.

M-M' is the abstraction of a real process that has become abstract. In the
realm of real politics is not M-M' expressed in the consolidation of a sector of
capital, currently writing the political agenda for the world total social
capital as it finds itself increasing detached from the production of
commodities? Is this detachment of this sector of capital expressed in its polar
opposite that is more than one billion people incapable of entering the cycle of
commodity production and the lowering of the wage form of the workers across the
board?

If an industrial bourgeoisie as capital, expresses its opposite in an
industrial proletariat, does not M-M' - expanded value outside the production
process, express itself in a proletariat outside the production process?

This juncture of the accumulation of capital strikes me as ultra abstract on
every level and creates a segment of the population absolutely outside of the
production process because capital itself - a sector, is outside the
production process.

Driving the entire process is the revolution in the mode of production - the
material power of the productive forces.

My head starts hurting as a non-economist because in a world where M-M'
arises as dominator, under conditions where money/capital is not based on species -
gold or a tangible assets whose production is a store of value or socially
necessary human laboring, the law of value itself has to start unraveling. That
is to say fiat money - money whose value is based on what I say it is worth as
backed up by force and an internal system of taxation of ones working class,
cannot be a store of value when it cannot be distinguished from the money that
is derived from the production of tangibles.

I pass from a hurting head to disorientation when considering a deficit based
on money that has no value - fiat money, and wonder why the government cannot
simply print money - which it is doing.

I read every entry on Pen-l and cannot find a coherent explanation of this
process, which means we are 

Re: Question re basics

2003-12-14 Thread dmschanoes
As a first offering

On this question, and indeed the current and recent conditions of US
capital-- the economy or rather, the  Economy

1.  Certainly there has been a defensiveness regarding Keynes, this
the reflection of capitalism's ability to more than survive, but recover,
recuperate, and counterrevolutionize, despite the
fact the Keynesianism itself really has little to do with that recovery,
recuperation itself, other than to function as an ideological description
and justification for a particular set of circumstances.

2. While it may be useful to consider the role of finance as a direct
connection  M-M', the actual significance of finance both in function and as
a sector finance capital is in its role as the compressed, or condensed,
manifestation of all that capital strives to become-- its self-presentation
as pure detached, universal value able to overcome all the contradictions in
time and place of commodity production-- and never can become, thus all the
contradictions compose and manifest themselves as disruptions in finance, in
foreign exchange, in currencies, in derivatives.  And all of  these miracles
of  non-manufacture begin their  existence in the lags of capital's
metamorphoses between production and realization, between purchase and sale,
between investment and expanded reproduction.

3. Thus, the peaking and stumbling of the rate of profit in the in 1997-1998
reverberates as the currency crises in the NIE's of Asia.  In reality the
currency crises have their origins inoverproduction.

4. The RATE of return on investment in the US peaked in 1997, declined
modestly in 1998, and then plumped itself up, like a pufferfish sucking in
air in 2000.  The recovery in the US rate of profit in the 90s  was
prefigured by the previous decade's dramatic short rationing of labor, and
reduction in fixed assets.  The expansion after 1991 is marked by rising
investment, particularly in the means of circulation-- transportation and
telecommunications  (one example-- the BNSF railroad's capital expenditure
program for 1998 exceeded the expenditure for the entire industry in 1990).

5. Now I'm prejudiced on this point, but I really think the answer to the
why's and how's of capital are to be found in an analysis of
overproduction-- and the starting point  is to grasp that overproduction is
not underconsumption.


Re: In my life

2003-12-14 Thread Devine, James
FWIW, Christie Hefner graduated from my high school when I graduated (and Hugh showed 
up at our graduation), though she was known as Christie Gunn back then and I didn't 
know her very well. She changed her last name to her biological father's and then got 
the big money.
Jim
 
I thought we could generate a million dollars for the company and reach a
million people with the extraordinary story of Playboy and its impact on the
world of literature, design, ideas and art, says Christie Hefner, chairman
and CEO of Playboy Enterprises, the founder's daughter. We know we have
collectors, so we thought that instead of engaging in private negotiations
to sell part of the collection, we would have a public auction, where anyone
anywhere can own a piece of Playboy.





Re: Question re basics

2003-12-14 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Hi Ralph,

 I think that Marxists have a certain defensiveness about Keynes: we
mustn't
 take seriously a bourgeois thinker because it may infect us and we may
turn
 out to be revisionists without wanting to be, you know.

Well, I think the nature of the thing is that many people who read Das
Kapital - which is not an easy book - and are persuaded by it, are not
economists (I am not either, I am mainly concerned with the human effects of
economics and the power of economic ideologies to fool people into believing
that non-economic problems are economic problems, and that real economic
problems are non-economic problems). And these Marxists feel threatened by
references to Keynes, rather than understand the arguments he makes, and
make a reply to it (Anwar Shaikh for example does though, and for his part
Steve Keen as well). The main thing that Keynes became famous for was the
doctrine of effective demand, aggregate demand, which implied that market
forces did not automatically ensure that the market would clear, so that the
state had to step in to regulate the market, that there were these
relationships between income distributions, interest rates, the money
supply, investment and so on. And that is all perfectly true in many
respects; it implies a rejection of the validity of Say's Law. I could go
even further and argue that as regards monetary theory (the theory of the
volume, value and circulation of money and its economic effects) there isn't
technically very much difference between conventional economic thinking and
Marx's thinking.
(And Laurence Harris suggested in a book once that technically speaking,
Keynesians and monetarists weren't all that different in their understanding
of money either, just variations on a theme). But so what - whether or not
acknowledging this is actually progressive politically or not, is a moot
point. I mean, I could state all sorts of scientific truths that could have
all sorts of political implications. The state could intervene in all sorts
of ways to boost demand or regulate investment, this is nothing new, and it
could kill lots of people too in the process. In the real world, as distinct
from an academic office, the interpretation of Keynes has mutated over the
years, in line with the changing balance of forces between social classes.
The phenomena of stagflation completely contradicted Keynes's theory and
then you get neo-Keynesianism. Keynesianism often is interpreted as
Leftwing because it seems to support the case for income redistribution by
the state against mindless more market fanaticism promoted by people who
think that privatising everything will result in a better allocation of
resources. But really the economic arguments are merely distant reflections
of the moral controversies among the wealthy who, already possessing funds,
have this dillemma of what to fund and what not to fund. I think Paul
Mattick was quite pertinent in criticising Keynesians as apologists for the
mixed economy which wasn't really mixed, but Mattick's understanding of
the realisation of value often isn't very good - his own argument, as Ernest
Mandel points out, often just assumes the operation of Say's Law, i.e. that
the realisation of surplus-value (or value as such) is not a problem on its
own. The other thing I don't like about the Matticks is that they slag off
at people, and impute view to them which they do not hold.  The competitive
battle of capitalist business isn't simply about raising the rate of profit
or reducing wage-costs, it is also very much about sales, and you can show
quite easily through simple maths that if sales increase, but the rate of
profit falls, then that fall isn't really such a business problem in the
medium term, since incomes will increase anyway. The real problem for
capitalist economic growth is the recurrent situation of depressed profits
combined with shrinking or saturated markets, that is what must be
explained. I personally think that the tendency towards the falling rate of
profit, which Marx discusses (he didn't invent the idea himself, Adam Smith
and others already refers to it), is real and not imaginary, I could also
rustle up at least two dozen good empirical studies for illustration, but
from my point of view, this view just doesn't mean very much by itself,
because (1) an empirical trend of declining profitability can be explained
in many ways, and (2) what you need to know then, is how specifically the
the owners of capital attempt to cope with that problem. Outside of an
academic office, we deal not with abstract economic laws, but with the
observable, experiential effects of those laws, and if you cannot show the
experiential implications of the abstract principles regulating market
forces, you're not much further ahead.

I don't think that's
 such a danger as long as you internalize the basic structure of Marxism,
 which is, of course, embodied in and summed up in the value theory and the
 accumulation theory, surplus value 

Re: In my life

2003-12-14 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
 FWIW, Christie Hefner graduated from my high school when I graduated (and
Hugh showed up at our graduation), though she was known as Christie Gunn
back then and I didn't know her very well. She changed her last name to her
biological father's and then got the big money.

Amazing. I didn't know that. And was she a Gunn ? I have never met her
personally, I just pasted up a lot of Playboy pictures in the hallway and
toilet of my flat, as a sort of wallpaper, as an 18 year old. A friend of
mine had this wallpaper in her loo, that consisted of pages out of an old
book glossed over, and then, being a bit drawn to the surreal, because of
the way my life had gone, I thought I would do something like that, but with
Playboy and Penthouse pictures. But most people didn't appreciate it, either
I was being too avant garde or too backward in my thinking or both at the
same time, and thus missing out, and I took it off again. I didn't know much
about women (still don't in many ways) but I was grateful to Playboy for
giving me something to look at in a sensitive state. The first article I
ever read about Fidel Castro was a story by Tad Szulc, in Playboy or
Penthouse. But I didn't know much at that time about how softporn magazines
really function, I was a bit naive like that.

J.


Re: illegal money

2003-12-14 Thread michael
This article seems to equate money laundering with muslin fundamentalism.  I
wonder how much is done by corporations for tax avoidance.

Eubulides wrote:

 Smart money

 Chris Petit is fascinated by the power of illegal capital, revealed in
 Loretta Napoleoni's Modern Jihad and Jeffrey Robinson's The Sink--

Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
Chico, CA 95929
530-898-5321
fax 530-898-5901


Re: In my life

2003-12-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
J wrote:

The first article I ever read about Fidel Castro was 
a story by Tad Szulc, in Playboy or Penthouse. 

Playboy deserves a rightful place in Yanqui social liberation history.

The interviews were remarkable. As a lad, I was obviously attracted because of 
beautiful females. And we males can't help that, being hard wired as such. But there 
were these incredibly intelligent dialogues I would be exposed to. 

I wonder which was the most subversive: the gals or the guys with typewriters.

There is a huge chronology of American social history in there...

Ken.

--
The only true exploration, the only real Fountain of Youth, 
will not be in visiting foreign lands, but in having other 
eyes, in looking at the universe through the eyes of others.
  -- Marcel Proust 



Re: Estimating the surplus\Doug's question\Fred's comments

2003-12-14 Thread paul phillips
Fred B. Moseley wrote:

Hi Doug, you are right that the appropriate unit of analysis is the world
economy, and that surplus-value produced by e.g. Chinese workers is
appropriated by US capitalists.  But since this surplus-value is
appropriated by US capitalists, it is mostly included in the estimates of
profits in the US NIPAs.
But this international aspect does mean that the estimates of the ratio of
unproductive labor to productive labor in the US are overestimated.
Comradely,
Fred


I think there has also been a tendency to forget and neglect the
expropriation of surplus from independent commodity production that has
occured in the past that has been a major factor in profits, including
in the 'golden age of capitalism'. Perhaps the most important sector was
agriculture where surplus in production was expropriated  through
monopoly power (agribusiness the railways, banks) and shows up as
profits of agribusiness, railways, banks, food processors, etc.  The
depressed state of primary agricutlture (fisheries, independent forestry
operators) has meant that there has been precious little surplus to
expropriate through the monopolized price mechanism. I would suggest
that this may also be a factor  in the failure of the profit rate to
recover to the levels of the golden age.
Paul Phillips,
Economics,
University of Manitoba


Re: In my life

2003-12-14 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Hi Ken,

You wrote:

Playboy deserves a rightful place in Yanqui social liberation history. The
interviews were remarkable. As a lad, I was obviously attracted because of
beautiful females. And we males can't help that, being hard wired as such.
But there were these incredibly intelligent dialogues I would be exposed to.
I wonder which was the most subversive: the gals or the guys with
typewriters. There is a huge chronology of American social history in
there...

That's a good comment. Some of the gals were subversive, others were
sucked in or just went for the money. Personally, I was given a classic old
Remington portable by my Granddad when I was about 10 years old, I have
typed since that time. The way I grew up, I was a bit cagey about girlie
magazines as such, and I never had many of them, apart from a bit of humour
and a bit of exploration about what I feel or like (as against what somebody
else says I ought to feel or like). I just liked specific photo's, that is
all, in fact, one day, I am going to track down a specific photo that
captivated me. The Royal Dutch Library has a collection that could have it,
they collect those mags.  Many of the articles were tremendously useful and
interesting to me, real eye-openers, and I would read a lot, because
otherwise I got bored or feel lonely. The funniest thing though was, that
after I moved out of that house in 1978 into another one, I met a woman I
became amorous with, and she would actually clip pictures she liked from the
mags, and stick them into a personal photo album. I worked as part-time
photographer for the suburban papers at that time, and I remember asking her
one time how can you reconcile that with your feminist beliefs ? but she
just laughed, and replied that of course women were entitled to do that, why
shouldn't they be ?

I don't really know enough about the real US culture though, I have only
been there a couple times so far. There often seems to be a big difference
between media projections of America, and what Americans really think. The
attraction of the USA used to be that you could take a subject, and take to
its full potential, or at least explore the limits of it, in a free way, as
long as you did it with integrity. But I'm not sure that culture still
exists, other than commercially, in the contemporary mood of rheumy
conservatism, where people are often more interested in regulating,
limiting, ordering and repressing, rather than think through cultural issues
seriously and propose alternatives. We are supposed to know everything
already these days anyway. And there are many more financial pressures,
there's more mediation in everything you do. But maybe that culture just
exists in a different way, maybe I just don't know where it's at these days.
When a culture runs out of ideas and lacks a perspective on the future,
typically it begins to recycle stuff from the past, a sort of reticular
activating system or rumination. It doesn't bother me too much, because
I'll just think my own idea anyway, but it isn't very conducive to a
creative politics. Well, I go into the past too sometimes, to recover what
it was that really excited me or motivated me, or a bit of soulsearching,
but I am not pretending to be innovative in doing that, that's all. To be
innovative takes a lot of hard work.

J.


the evolving exchange value of the human body

2003-12-14 Thread Eubulides
A tall order

It's painful and slow, but can make you five inches taller. Jonathan Watts
on the surgical trend sweeping China - leg-lengthening

Monday December 15, 2003
The Guardian

Kong Jing-wen has paid £5,700 to have both of her legs broken and
stretched on a rack. The pretty college graduate is now lying in bed,
clearly still in considerable pain three days after a doctor sawed through
the flesh and bone below her knee to insert what looks an awful lot like
knitting needles through the length of her tibiae.

These giant steel pins are connected by eight screws punched horizontally
through her ankle and calf to a steel cage surrounding each leg. Once the
bone starts to heal, these cages will act like a medieval torture device -
each day over the next few months Kong will turn the screws a fraction and
stretch her limbs more and more until she has grown by 8cm.

Despite the agony, the cost and the inconvenience, the 23-year-old says
she does not regret a thing. It hurts, but it will be worth it to be
taller. I'll have more opportunities in life and a better chance of
finding a good job and husband.

Her parents, who financed the operation and are now at her bedside, agree.
It's an investment in our daughter's future. Because she was short, she
used to lack confidence, but this should change that.

Kong Jing-wen is one of a growing number of perfectly healthy Chinese
young men and women who are willing to break a leg for beauty in order to
rise up the ladder in height-conscious China. The complex and
time-consuming procedure they are willing to endure was initially
developed in Russia for people with stunted growth, mismatched legs or
disfigurements. But these days the operation is increasingly used for
cosmetic purposes.

In part, the popularity of such surgery can be explained by the surge of
interest in fashion and beauty in a country where the rising middle
classes are shaking off a dowdy Maoist cultural legacy and using the
rewards of explosive economic growth to explore cosmetic possibilities.
Shops and magazines in the cities show endless images of long-legged
western models, inevitably putting pressure on young women.

Doctors have been able to pioneer new forms of this surgery because height
is so socially important in China that it is often the first thing
strangers will talk about. It is also listed among the criteria required
on job advertisements. To get a post in the foreign ministry, for
instance, male applicants need not bother applying unless they are at
least 5ft 7in, while women must be at least 5ft 3in. Chinese diplomats are
expected to be tall to match the height of their foreign counterparts.

For more glamorous positions the conditions are even tougher: air
stewardesses have to be over 5ft 5in. But height discrimination is evident
even at ground level: in some places, people under 5ft 3in are not even
eligible to take a driving test. To get into many law schools, women
students need to be over 5ft 1in and men over 5ft 5in. Height requirements
are also frequently mentioned in the personal ads of newspapers and
magazines.

All this has ensured a steady stream of business for osteogenetic surgeons
like Dr Xia Hetao, who has pioneered a height-increasing technique in
Beijing used by about 150 people every year. More and more people want to
be taller, he says. It is so important for the image of an individual or
a company that some people come here in tears begging for an operation.

With a minimum £4,000 price tag attached to the procedure, the patients
are all well-off by Chinese standards. According to employees at Dr Xia's
institute of external skeletal fixation technology, it is not just women
who are prepared to have their legs lengthened - men are just as keen. The
vast majority of patients are job- and spouse-hunters in their 20s, but
teenagers are also among the patients and the oldest person to have the
operation was a 52-year-old woman. She was very wealthy and had
everything else she wanted, so she decided to fix her height which had
always been a concern for her, explained one of the staff.

In many cases, the clients are not even particularly short to begin with.
Dr Xia said one 5ft 8in women asked to grow an inch so that she could
reach the standard needed to qualify as an international fashion model.
But most of the others are under average height and undergo up to two
operations so that they can grow by a maximum of almost five inches.

Each procedure has three stages. First comes the operation in which the
legs are broken and steel pins - 27cm long and 8mm in diameter - are
pushed through the bone. These are fixed to an external frame by eight or
so screws, each of which is 4mm in diameter. Next comes the stretching,
which is carried out over several months (depending on how much the
customer wants to grow) by turning the screws each day and lengthening the
bone at the point where it was broken. When the stretching is completed
the external frame is removed. In the 

Re: illegal money

2003-12-14 Thread Doug Henwood
michael wrote:

muslin fundamentalism
Nice to see this concern with the fabric of daily life.

Doug


Re: the evolving exchange value of the human body

2003-12-14 Thread Michael Perelman
I knew a woman who had a similar operation on one leg, to equalize the
length with the other one.  As soon as she recovered from her operation,
she left her husband.

On a more serious note, people like Daniel Hammermesch, for example in
Biddle, Jeff E. and Daniel S. Hamermesh. 1998. Beauty, Productivity, and
Discrimination: Lawyers' Looks and Lucre. Journal of Labor Economics, 16:
1 (January): pp. 172-201, have shown that investing in a cosmetic surgery
can pay economic dividends.  Similarly, some of the young people whom I
play basketball with, have shown sudden body changes that could only be
possible through steroids.

 -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]


EU/WTO and other dysfunctions of global governance

2003-12-14 Thread Eubulides
EU failure sets stage for trade roadshow

Larry Elliott
Monday December 15, 2003
The Guardian

The caravan moves on. At the weekend it was Brussels, today it's Geneva.
For wrangling over the European Union's draft constitution read a
stand-off in the global trade talks. One international meeting elides into
another in an attempt to piece together a workable system of governance
for the global age.

It is proving a struggle. The past year has been a catalogue of failure
for multilateralism, from the schism at the United Nations over Iraq and
the disastrous trade talks in Cancun to the less overt but equally serious
loss of political will to cooperate on tackling climate change, currency
instability and global poverty.

Today's meeting of the World Trade Organisation provides the year's last
chance to pluck victory from the jaws of defeat, but it is not going to
happen. The WTO's 146 members were given three months after Cancun to
settle their differences so that the round could be relaunched officially
this week. The hope was that this would provide the momentum to complete
the negotiations by the January 1 2005 deadline. Instead, the big players
have spent the autumn sulking in their tents, blaming each other for the
breakdown and showing scant interest in making the modest concessions that
would revitalise the talks.

America's trade policy is now determined by the impact it will have on
George Bush's re-election prospects, France has taken the opportunity
provided by the debacle in Cancun to give Europe's trade policy a more
protectionist bent, the big developing countries are unwilling to move
until they can see the colour of the west's money.

But there is more to it than power politics. Global governance is
fundamentally dysfunctional because, while the power of markets has
expanded rapidly, the international system has atrophied. Politicians find
themselves pulled in opposite directions. On the one hand, they are urged
by big finance and big capital to remove barriers, on the grounds that
freer movement of goods and capital will encourage the international
division of labour and thereby raise overall global income. Business wants
light-touch market states to sit alongside market economies.

On the other hand, governments find that pushing through policies
consistent with the creed of globalisation - dismantling tariffs,
welcoming out sourcing, opening markets to imports from poor countries
even in the absence of reciprocation - is hard to sell to the electorate.
Voters don't believe it when they are told that while outsourcing costs
jobs initially it ultimately means greater prosperity because it leads to
lower prices and higher real incomes. They suspect that they will lose the
jobs at the call centre while those running the company get the higher
incomes. Given the antics of executives in recent years, who can blame
them?

This pressure from below is unlikely to abate. Voters have become more
liberated in many ways over the past few decades; they take for granted
emotional freedom and political rights irrespective of gender, race or
sexual orientation, so they are unlikely to take kindly to being treated
like economic vassals. They also see themselves as consumers of
everything - including politics - so if the government says it can't
prevent jobs being lost or living standards being eroded voters will stay
at home.

These mutually antagonistic forces make global governance a nightmare, and
inevitably lead to messy compromises. The EU, for example, makes
organisational sense as a commonwealth of nation states, agreeing to work
together only in areas of common interest such as environmental protection
or free trade. It also hangs together conceptually as a single unitary
government, with monetary policy, fiscal policy, defence and foreign
affairs decided at the centre. A hybrid system, with a power struggle
between nation states and the centre, is far more problematical.

The same tensions apply at the global level. At the United Nations, the
veto for the five permanent members of the security council reflects the
power of the nation state (or rather the big nation states in 1945) to
influence events in the global forum. Without it, the UN would long ago
have gone the way of the League of Nations. At the WTO, all 146 nations
have a theoretical veto, although in practice it would be hard to imagine
Guyana or Tanzania holding out against everybody else.

Self-evidently, this makes decision-making cumbersome and slow, but it is
hard to see what the alternative is, because messy compromise is a
function of democracy. The only purchase individuals have on the EU, the
UN, the IMF, the WTO or the World Bank is through the ballot box and that
tends to mean through the nation state. Nation states see their primary
task as defending national interests.

For development organisations, this is frustrating. They have a sensible
agenda for the WTO that would repair the damage caused three months ago;
the problem 

Correction

2003-12-14 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
The Fidel Castro article I referred to was actually by Fernando Morais, in
Penthouse, December 1978 issue (a collector's item these days). Tad Szulc
wrote mainly on American subversion of foreign governments as I recall,
although he later also published a biography of Castro. Oui magazine also
featured an interview with Castro in January 1975. Playboy published an
interview with Castro by Lee Lockwood (pseud.) in January 1967 and again in
August 1985. Here's an excerpt from  the 1985 interview:
PLAYBOY: Let's end on a note of imagination. Here is something truly
wonderful from your point of view: Suppose the U.S. canceled Latin America's
foreign debt, as you propose, and offered substantial aid to boot - in other
words, offered to treat the hemisphere with the fairness you think it
deserves. What would you do then? Reassess your views?
CASTRO: If the United States were to spontaneously do what you say - if such
an inherently selfish, neocolonialist system were capable of that generosity
- a real miracle would have taken place, and I would have to start
meditating
on that phenomenon. I might even have to consult some theologians and revise
some of my opinions in that field. If that were to happen, I might even
enter a monastery.

:-)

Jurriaan


Re: the evolving exchange value of the human body

2003-12-14 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
What a story...

 It hurts, but it will be worth it to be
taller. I'll have more opportunities in life and a better chance of
finding a good job and husband.

It isn't even true, in my experience.

J.


Re: the evolving exchange value of the human body

2003-12-14 Thread Gil Skillman
From foot-binding to leg-lengthening.  Progress of a sort, I suppose

Gil

A tall order

It's painful and slow, but can make you five inches taller. Jonathan Watts
on the surgical trend sweeping China - leg-lengthening
Monday December 15, 2003
The Guardian
Kong Jing-wen has paid £5,700 to have both of her legs broken and
stretched on a rack. The pretty college graduate is now lying in bed,
clearly still in considerable pain three days after a doctor sawed through
the flesh and bone below her knee to insert what looks an awful lot like
knitting needles through the length of her tibiae.
These giant steel pins are connected by eight screws punched horizontally
through her ankle and calf to a steel cage surrounding each leg. Once the
bone starts to heal, these cages will act like a medieval torture device -
each day over the next few months Kong will turn the screws a fraction and
stretch her limbs more and more until she has grown by 8cm.
Despite the agony, the cost and the inconvenience, the 23-year-old says
she does not regret a thing. It hurts, but it will be worth it to be
taller. I'll have more opportunities in life and a better chance of
finding a good job and husband.
Her parents, who financed the operation and are now at her bedside, agree.
It's an investment in our daughter's future. Because she was short, she
used to lack confidence, but this should change that.
Kong Jing-wen is one of a growing number of perfectly healthy Chinese
young men and women who are willing to break a leg for beauty in order to
rise up the ladder in height-conscious China. The complex and
time-consuming procedure they are willing to endure was initially
developed in Russia for people with stunted growth, mismatched legs or
disfigurements. But these days the operation is increasingly used for
cosmetic purposes.
In part, the popularity of such surgery can be explained by the surge of
interest in fashion and beauty in a country where the rising middle
classes are shaking off a dowdy Maoist cultural legacy and using the
rewards of explosive economic growth to explore cosmetic possibilities.
Shops and magazines in the cities show endless images of long-legged
western models, inevitably putting pressure on young women.
Doctors have been able to pioneer new forms of this surgery because height
is so socially important in China that it is often the first thing
strangers will talk about. It is also listed among the criteria required
on job advertisements. To get a post in the foreign ministry, for
instance, male applicants need not bother applying unless they are at
least 5ft 7in, while women must be at least 5ft 3in. Chinese diplomats are
expected to be tall to match the height of their foreign counterparts.
For more glamorous positions the conditions are even tougher: air
stewardesses have to be over 5ft 5in. But height discrimination is evident
even at ground level: in some places, people under 5ft 3in are not even
eligible to take a driving test. To get into many law schools, women
students need to be over 5ft 1in and men over 5ft 5in. Height requirements
are also frequently mentioned in the personal ads of newspapers and
magazines.
All this has ensured a steady stream of business for osteogenetic surgeons
like Dr Xia Hetao, who has pioneered a height-increasing technique in
Beijing used by about 150 people every year. More and more people want to
be taller, he says. It is so important for the image of an individual or
a company that some people come here in tears begging for an operation.
With a minimum £4,000 price tag attached to the procedure, the patients
are all well-off by Chinese standards. According to employees at Dr Xia's
institute of external skeletal fixation technology, it is not just women
who are prepared to have their legs lengthened - men are just as keen. The
vast majority of patients are job- and spouse-hunters in their 20s, but
teenagers are also among the patients and the oldest person to have the
operation was a 52-year-old woman. She was very wealthy and had
everything else she wanted, so she decided to fix her height which had
always been a concern for her, explained one of the staff.
In many cases, the clients are not even particularly short to begin with.
Dr Xia said one 5ft 8in women asked to grow an inch so that she could
reach the standard needed to qualify as an international fashion model.
But most of the others are under average height and undergo up to two
operations so that they can grow by a maximum of almost five inches.
Each procedure has three stages. First comes the operation in which the
legs are broken and steel pins - 27cm long and 8mm in diameter - are
pushed through the bone. These are fixed to an external frame by eight or
so screws, each of which is 4mm in diameter. Next comes the stretching,
which is carried out over several months (depending on how much the
customer wants to grow) by turning the screws each day and lengthening the
bone at the point where it was broken. When 

Re: Question re basics

2003-12-14 Thread joanna bujes
Jurriaan Bendien wrote:



Personally, I never stop thinking,
although the brain seizes up sometimes. It's one of the most interesting
things you can do with your own brain, really.

What's tougher than that is to be able to stop thinking while remaining
conscious and highly sensitive. (not claiming to have achieved that
myself...)
Joanna





protection rackets redux; Argentina

2003-12-14 Thread Eubulides
[Los Angeles Times]
2000 Argentina Bribe Scandal Reopens After New Confession
By Héctor Tobar
Times Staff Writer
December 14, 2003

BUENOS AIRES - A congressional official's emotional confession in a report
published Saturday has reopened one of Argentina's most notorious
scandals, shedding light on the behind-the-scenes dealings that doomed a
president and set off years of political instability.

In an interview with Buenos Aires magazine TXT, former Senate Secretary
Mario Pontaquarto described how he personally delivered a $5-million bribe
to nine senators at the behest of President Fernando de la Rua in April
2000.

The money, Pontaquarto said, was provided from the Argentine intelligence
service's secret funds and delivered in two briefcases to senators of the
nation's dominant political parties, the Radicals and the Peronists.

I asked him why me, why couldn't someone else do this, Pontaquarto told
TXT, remembering the moment a senator told him he would be the go-between
delivering the money. But I didn't turn him down. They were telling me it
had to be done, the government needed it to be done.

Pontaquarto spoke to the magazine three weeks ago and repeated his story
late Friday to a judge investigating the case. He has been granted
immunity from prosecution, and the judge has called his testimony
convincing and very precise.

Several senators were named as defendants when the scandal first broke in
2000, but over the years all charges in the case had been dropped for lack
of evidence. The charges could be reinstated, however, as a result of the
new testimony.

The bribery allegations split De la Rua's ruling center-left coalition.
Frustrated with De la Rua's apparent unwillingness to pursue the case,
Vice President Carlos Alvarez resigned and his leftist Frepaso movement
left the government. The weakened De la Rua was himself forced from office
amid rioting and protest in December 2001.

The alleged bribes bought yes votes for a business-backed employment
reform law demanded by the International Monetary Fund but which faced
strong resistance from organized labor and its allies in the Argentine
Congress.

Elected president in 1999, De la Rua inherited a country that was burdened
with a growing public debt and was increasingly dependent on IMF loans.
The IMF insisted that Argentina implement reforms.

De la Rua denied Saturday that he authorized bribing anyone, calling the
accusations absolutely false. He accused current President Nestor
Kirchner's government of planting the story as part of a political
operation against him.

Kirchner's government announced that it has provided protection to
Pontaquarto - who says he fears for his life - and has helped his family
seek refuge abroad.

Presidential Cabinet chief Alberto Fernandez said Kirchner had been aware
of Pontaquarto's confession for several days before its publication.
Those who are responsible must fall, Fernandez said.

Pontaquarto was the highest-ranking bureaucrat in Congress, a 20-year
functionary who had won the trust of the legislature's many factions.
Despite media reports naming him as a likely conduit for the suspected
bribes, he had always denied involvement.

In the TXT interview published Saturday, he describes the bribery episode
as a cloak-and-dagger operation that included visits to the president's
office and to a vault inside the Argentine intelligence agency, known by
its Spanish initials, SIDE.

Argentina's powerful labor movement had been pressuring lawmakers for
months to vote against the law that, among other things, made it easier
for businesses to dismiss employees. Pontaquarto says that at that point,
he was summoned to the president's office for a meeting with a small group
of key senators.

Classical music was playing loudly in the background - apparently, the
president feared his office might be bugged, Pontaquarto said.

Something more was needed to pass the law, one of the senators said.

Arrange it with Santibanes, the president responded, referring to his
intelligence chief, Fernando de Santibanes.

A few weeks later, Pontaquarto was summoned to a meeting with the
intelligence chief. He was told to return later that evening to pick up
the money. Inside the vault, he was given two briefcases, Pontaquarto told
TXT.

After placing them in his car, he drove to Congress, a SIDE security
escort trailing behind him. But some complications arose, he said, and he
ended up hiding the money in his house for a few days before turning most
of it over to Sen. Emilio Cantarero, a Peronist.

Pontaquarto said he watched in the senator's apartment as the lawmaker
counted the bills. When he was done, Cantarero handed him a list detailing
how he and other Peronist senators would divvy up the bribes, Pontaquarto
said.

He told me to keep it as a receipt, Pontaquarto said, adding that he hid
it in a secure place. He said he delivered the second briefcase to
Radical Party Sen. Jose Genoud, then provisional president of the Senate.


Re: Correction

2003-12-14 Thread joanna bujes
Castro has a great sense of humor and gives great interviews. In one of
the interviews you mention, he is asked whether there could be a
socialist revolution in the U.S. He denies the possibility citing the
undermining power of advertising on Americans' ability to desire
something (for example, social revolution) and pursue unswervingly. How
can they? I remember him asking, When they are being told every five
minutes that they want something else, and something else...
Joanna

Jurriaan Bendien wrote:

The Fidel Castro article I referred to was actually by Fernando Morais, in
Penthouse, December 1978 issue (a collector's item these days). Tad Szulc
wrote mainly on American subversion of foreign governments as I recall,
although he later also published a biography of Castro. Oui magazine also
featured an interview with Castro in January 1975. Playboy published an
interview with Castro by Lee Lockwood (pseud.) in January 1967 and again in
August 1985. Here's an excerpt from  the 1985 interview:
PLAYBOY: Let's end on a note of imagination. Here is something truly
wonderful from your point of view: Suppose the U.S. canceled Latin America's
foreign debt, as you propose, and offered substantial aid to boot - in other
words, offered to treat the hemisphere with the fairness you think it
deserves. What would you do then? Reassess your views?
CASTRO: If the United States were to spontaneously do what you say - if such
an inherently selfish, neocolonialist system were capable of that generosity
- a real miracle would have taken place, and I would have to start
meditating
on that phenomenon. I might even have to consult some theologians and revise
some of my opinions in that field. If that were to happen, I might even
enter a monastery.
:-)

Jurriaan






Re: the evolving exchange value of the human body

2003-12-14 Thread joanna bujes
Gil Skillman wrote:

From foot-binding to leg-lengthening.  Progress of a sort, I suppose
Not at all, I think. The article just made me muse about the medieval
horrors raised up in my mind's eye by the description of this procedure
...and how these tortures are now self-imposed.
So long as we aspire to nothing more than being perfect objects, how can
there be progress?
Joanna


Re: Estimating the surplus\Doug's question

2003-12-14 Thread Fred B. Moseley
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003, Doug Henwood wrote:

 Fred B. Moseley wrote:

 You are comparing a cyclical low (1982) with a cyclical high (1997).
 And do your estimates include interest?

 1997 was four years before the cyclical high, actually. But the 1982
 low was in many ways - political as well as economic - a point of
 structural reversal. Mexico's debt crisis marked the onset of
 neoliberal restructuring of the world; the stock market took off at
 almost the same minute as the Mexican quasi-default; and the Reagan
 boom was about to begin. That was about a lot more than a business
 cycle - it was about a whole new regime of accumulation.


And my point is that this new regime of accumulation - whose main purpose
was to restore the rate of profit - has been only partially successful.

1997 was the peak for the share and rate of profit, as you must know,
after which they declined sharply, so that the share of profit in 2001
was almost as low as in 1982.

Doug, do you think that profit has been restored to such an extent
that the US economy is entering a new long-wave period of growth
and relative prosperity, with signficant increases in average real wages?

Comradely,
Fred


Re: Correction

2003-12-14 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 12/14/03 7:25:48 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

The Fidel Castro article I referred to was actually by Fernando Morais, in
Penthouse, December 1978 issue (a collector's item these days). Tad Szulc
wrote mainly on American subversion of foreign governments as I recall,
although he later also published a biography of Castro.

Comment

Somewhere in the twisted corners of my mind are several articles by Tad Szulc
on oil and the politics of oil from the mid and late 1970s. What every
happened to this guy? I think his material ran in Penthouse or perhaps Playboy.

Melvin P.

Melvin P.