Re: Re: Re: Irradiated Beef in School Lunches
On Sat, 08 Feb 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does irradiation kill or at least render harmless to humans E. coli and the like found in meat? If so, wouldn't irradiation be an effective way, at least for E. coli and the like purposes, of dealing with the root causes referred to? Perhaps, but I still feel a little aesthetically squeamish at the prospect of eating cow shit. dd
Re: Re: Irradiated Beef in School Lunches
On 2/1/03, Yoshie Furuhashi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Schlosser in his FAST FOOD NATION . . . quotes someone saying that irradiation simply allows the meat-packers to avoid dealing with the root causes of E. Coli and the like, i.e., the crowded and totally unsanitary conditions of feed-lots. Does irradiation kill or at least render harmless to humans E. coli and the like found in meat? If so, wouldn't irradiation be an effective way, at least for E. coli and the like purposes, of dealing with the root causes referred to?
Re: Re: Re: Irradiated Beef in School Lunches
Irradiation kills most of the harmful organisms, but it also changes many of the characteristics of the food itself. Nobody has studied how these altered forms affect health. On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 07:08:16PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does irradiation kill or at least render harmless to humans E. coli and the like found in meat? If so, wouldn't irradiation be an effective way, at least for E. coli and the like purposes, of dealing with the root causes referred to? -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Irradiated Beef in School Lunches
It would be better to clean that crap up, but the resistant strain problem would require that it get transferred back into the food chain to breed some more. I assume that feeding the animals antibiotics makes the problem far worse. On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 06:30:25PM -0800, Devine, James wrote: one problem is that some E. Coli would survive, so that a radiation-resistant would eventually develop. Also, wouldn't it make sense to simply clean up the feedlots, so that no sh*t got in our food? Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2/8/2003 4:08 PM Subject: [PEN-L:34501] Re: Re: Irradiated Beef in School Lunches On 2/1/03, Yoshie Furuhashi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Schlosser in his FAST FOOD NATION . . . quotes someone saying that irradiation simply allows the meat-packers to avoid dealing with the root causes of E. Coli and the like, i.e., the crowded and totally unsanitary conditions of feed-lots. Does irradiation kill or at least render harmless to humans E. coli and the like found in meat? If so, wouldn't irradiation be an effective way, at least for E. coli and the like purposes, of dealing with the root causes referred to? -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Irradiated Beef in School Lunches
Title: RE: [PEN-L:34269] Irradiated Beef in School Lunches Eric Schlosser, in his FAST FOOD NATION, has one of the best points against irradiation of meat: he quotes someone saying that irradiation simply allows the meat-packers to avoid dealing with the root causes of E. Coli and the like, i.e., the crowded and totally unsanitary conditions of feed-lots. Jim -Original Message- From: Yoshie Furuhashi To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2/1/2003 12:36 PM Subject: [PEN-L:34269] Irradiated Beef in School Lunches NYT January 29, 2003 The Question of Irradiated Beef in Lunchrooms By MARIAN BURROS IRRADIATED beef may be coming soon to your local school cafeteria. The farm bill that was passed last May directs the Agriculture Department to buy irradiated beef for the federal school lunch program. It will be up to local school districts to decide if they want it. Americans have been reluctant to buy food that is irradiated, a process that uses electrons or gamma rays to kill harmful bacteria like salmonella and E. coli 0157:H7, which cause food poisoning. Some people fear, wrongly, that the food is radioactive. Others are concerned that the process hasn't been tested well. They may be correct. Based on European studies showing the formation of cancer-causing properties in irradiated fat, the European Union, which allows irradiation only for certain spices and dried herbs, has voted not to permit any further food irradiation until more studies have been done. ...
Re: Irradiated Beef in School Lunches
Title: Re: Irradiated Beef in School Lunches Eric Schlosser, in his FAST FOOD NATION, has one of the best points against irradiation of meat: he quotes someone saying that irradiation simply allows the meat-packers to avoid dealing with the root causes of E. Coli and the like, i.e., the crowded and totally unsanitary conditions of feed-lots. Jim One of my students in the last quarter was reading _Fast Food Nation_ and recommended to me that I use excerpts from it for composition classes I teach. Will do so the next quarter. -- Yoshie * Calendar of Events in Columbus: http://www.osu.edu/students/sif/calendar.html * Student International Forum: http://www.osu.edu/students/sif/ * Committee for Justice in Palestine: http://www.osudivest.org/ * Al-Awda-Ohio: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Al-Awda-Ohio * Solidarity: http://solidarity.igc.org/
