Re: [Penguin] What is this list for?
o---ooO--(- Important Message -)--Oooo | | | SAVE BANDWITH, SPACE, TIME MONEY, REPLY WITH PRUDENCE.| | | o=[ Penguin @ My - Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ]=o In my opinion, the following group are helpful compare to this mailing list. my linuxboard http://kencana.my-linux.org/linuxboard/ my-linux user tips http://users.my-linux.org/ Please take note that Linux is not just purely technical. Free of charge is business term, but Open source/ code Free(dom) and sharing is the spirit of Linux. Any computing user group will talk technical, the group progress, product progress. In linux and open source world, we also discuss about society progress. E.g. - MS monopoly vs Linux,BSD,opensource,etc - Why MS monopoly is bad - standard war - Source code and society - Open source and human society though - Open source vs crypto export restriction - Linux Distro war, Redhat vs Openlinux vs Debian vs slackware vs etc It can be technical, religion, political, education, jokes, etc. Why restrict yourself to technical? p/s : for the flames, vulgur posting lately, the solution is there long time ago : calm down and ignore them, learn not to make the same mistake. You see, this is something more than tehnical : netiques. [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 21-10-99 03:28:11 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Tan Soe Liang/HQ/SIME_BANK) Subject: [Penguin] What is this list for? I've been subscribed to this list, with the hope of getting information and helping other users on matters regarding linux in Malaysia, but i see deviation from the aim, to a rather amusing list of jokes and cracks. - Disclaimer : http://users.my-linux.org/disclaimer.html
[Penguin] Progress of My-linux.org registration
o---ooO--(- Important Message -)--Oooo | | | SAVE BANDWITH, SPACE, TIME MONEY, REPLY WITH PRUDENCE.| | | o=[ Penguin @ My - Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ]=o Hmmm, seem my-linux registration become cross-millinium work. Some sort of BOLEH (tm)? Anybody have any idea? Or should we use another BOLEH(tm) way to accelerate the process. How about buying a dormant organisation and change the name? BOLEH(tm) - Registered Trademark of Malaysia Inc. - oooO--(- Disclaimer / Footer -)--Ooo-o | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] and other email IDs under my-linux.org are owned | | by My-Linux. If you see any suspicious looking email ids under| | my-linux.org, the matter should be referred to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for | | clarification.| | | | This document and any attachments are strictly confidential and | | intended for the use of addressee only unless otherwise indicated.| | This message must not be copied or disseminated to any other person | | without our prior written consent.| | | | news://my.enemy.org/my-linux.bincang http://ku.rindu.net/penguin/ | | unsubscribe echo "unsubscribe penguin"|mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | o---=[ Penguin @ My - Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ]=---o
Re: [Penguin] Musing on Windows.
o---ooO--(- Important Message -)--Oooo | | | SAVE BANDWITH, SPACE, TIME MONEY, REPLY WITH PRUDENCE.| | | o=[ Penguin @ My - Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ]=o Actually, GUI does not always mean User friendliness. Only people who don't have the idea about computing dare to say "GUI is more userfriendly". For production system, text base system is much user friendly and more productive compare to GUI counterpart. Another interesting fact is, no body or organisation really do a real survey in the lost of production due to GUI system, e.g. time wasted on - mouse navigation - finding the correct menu/option/features - clicking the correct button - Installation - disaster recovery - CPU processing (system need to refresh the screen) etc. Some people never learn. -- Scott Adams is right, we live in dilbert world where morons are the decision maker.-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 13-08-99 04:01:07 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Tan Soe Liang/HQ/SIME_BANK) Subject: [Penguin] Musing on Windows. Well this morning I went to Bank Simpanan Nasional, and I notice that they reorganised their computer system. Saw something so ordinary yet extraordinary. I remember a year ago or sometime ago...their computer systems is terminal based. "But what do ye know, it's window age man, it gotta be windows ... heh". Yeah those terminal screens are replaced by Windows, running on Ms WIndows 9*. It used to be all keyboard typing for input, now it's the cute little mouse'y and ... oh keyboard too. So now instead using keyboard, they have to use keyboard and mouse'y, really saving up a lot of time. Type type here then click click there, takes like few seconds more to switch between the mouse keyboard...really efficient, heh. Then wat do ye know, it happened to Bill Gates so why not to this ordinary bank operator? It crashed! I was holding myself from giggling. Of course it would have to be restarted and did she have the chance to save her work? - oooO--(- Disclaimer / Footer -)--Ooo-o | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] and other email IDs under my-linux.org are owned | | by My-Linux. If you see any suspicious looking email ids under| | my-linux.org, the matter should be referred to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for | | clarification.| | | | This document and any attachments are strictly confidential and | | intended for the use of addressee only unless otherwise indicated.| | This message must not be copied or disseminated to any other person | | without our prior written consent.| | | | news://my.enemy.org/my-linux.bincang http://ku.rindu.net/penguin/ | | unsubscribe echo "unsubscribe penguin"|mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | o---=[ Penguin @ My - Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ]=---o
[Penguin] CDROM War - Pirated RH 6.0 vs Cheapbytes RH 6.0
o---ooO--(- Important Message -)--Oooo | | | SAVE BANDWITH, SPACE, TIME MONEY, REPLY WITH PRUDENCE.| | | o=[ Penguin @ My - Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ]=o Recently, I help somebody install the new Redhat 6.0. (I'm still using RH 5.2) After start the Xwindows, go through some of the features, I notice that RH 6.0 is nice. In the mean time, Domino 5.0 Sneak preview for Linux just came around the corner, and this "little-boy"* need RH6.0 . Since my company is running Lotus Notes, and ask a Linux geeks, this is something I must try. My colleage, fahroe have downlaod the Domino 5.0, and all we have is the 2.0.3x kernel. So, the first minutes, after working hour, I rush to Imbi plaza to get the CD. When I arrived, I look for the 2 shop that stated as dealer for solinque(http://www.woolf.com.my) who sale the cheapbytes CD. To my suprise, both shop sell the Cheapbytes RH CD at RM28, and the unauthorised RH 6.0 ( where you can see the redhat cover) at RM20. You see, I am expecting to pay for RH CD for RM 22 or maybe a small margin, instead of the unauthorised RH6.0 at RM20. I just want to show little support the Linux movement not to buy the unauthorised RH 6.0. Because the CD is not create under any Linux advocacy that the profit will go back to Linux movement. (Yes, it is ok for me to buy Linux CD from any Linux advocate). I have friend who told me about the local "celup" CDROM operation. They make it at volume of thousands, and the price can be as low as RM 4-5 per CD. Unfortunately, because linux always came out new patches, the unauthorised RH6.0 CD will be outdated after 2-3 months. However, the Cheapbytes release always follow the patches, e.g. say after 3 months, Cheapbytes will came out another version of Cheapbytes RH6.0 will a new kernel and patches. Maybe you will ask, why somebody try to pirated unauthorised linux CDROM, if Linux Distro will obsolete in 3 months time? The logic is simple, the cost. Printing CDROM in bulk, is dirt cheap (if you know where to find it). For 1000 CDs, the cost per CD can be RM4++. If you print even more, the cost per CD will reduce below RM4, or even RM3. Just look at the margin, say a dealer selling unauthorised RH6.0 at RM20, if the cost is RM5, he will get a gross profit of RM15. For Cheapbytes story, If Solinque(Malaysia cheapbtyes distributor) give the dealer for RM 15, if they sale the CDROM at RM 22, they only earn gross of RM7. If they mark up the Cheapbytes CDROM to RM28 (as in my case), they will get RM12. The logic is simple, if you sale "pirated" RH6.0 CDROM, you earn RM 3 more than selling "official" Cheapbytes RH6.0 CDROM. In addition, the cost of of both CDROM are odd - RM5 vs RM 15. That's mean, with every Cheapbytes CD , will cost the dealer for another 2 "pirated" CDROM. The delimma is, should I buy the Cheapbytes CDROM at RM28, or buy the pirated CD that do nothing for Linux community? *little-boy - Name for one atom boom which end the WWII - oooO--(- Disclaimer / Footer -)--Ooo-o | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] and other email IDs under my-linux.org are owned | | by My-Linux. If you see any suspicious looking email ids under| | my-linux.org, the matter should be referred to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for | | clarification.| | | | This document and any attachments are strictly confidential and | | intended for the use of addressee only unless otherwise indicated.| | This message must not be copied or disseminated to any other person | | without our prior written consent.| | | | news://my.enemy.org/my-linux.bincang http://ku.rindu.net/penguin/ | | unsubscribe echo "unsubscribe penguin"|mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | o---=[ Penguin @ My - Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ]=---o
Re: [Penguin] POP3
o---ooO--(- Important Message -)--Oooo | | | SAVE BANDWITH, SPACE, TIME MONEY, REPLY WITH PRUDENCE.| | | o=[ Penguin @ My - Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ]=o Gotcha. There is no POP3 rpm. What you can find is the IMAP rpm. Actually Pop2, pop3 and imap is bundle in this rpm. Without the Imap package, you can't run pop3 in Redhat. Check whether the imap rpm installed in your system rpm -ql imap You should see something like this /etc/pam.d/imap /usr/doc/imap-4.4 /usr/doc/imap-4.4/README /usr/man/man8/imapd.8c /usr/man/man8/ipopd.8c /usr/sbin/imapd /usr/sbin/ipop2d /usr/sbin/ipop3d If you get 'package not installed' , install it. Get the imap rpm and install it using this command rpm -ivh imap*.rpm Open your editor, e.g. vi to modify the /etc/inetd.conf vi /etc/inetd.conf # Pop and imap mail services et al # #pop-2 stream tcp nowait root/usr/sbin/tcpd ipop2d #pop-3 stream tcp nowait root/usr/sbin/tcpd ipop3d #imapstream tcp nowait root/usr/sbin/tcpd imapd Remove the "#" sign for he services you want to start. Then reboot your system. (FYI, there is way to restart the network setting without reboot Linux) [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 05-08-99 07:25:42 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Tan Soe Liang/HQ/SIME_BANK) Subject: [Penguin] POP3 Hi, I tried to set up POP3 server, dah buang comment kat dalam /etc/inetd.conf. Lepas restart and telnet 0 110, message yang keluar ialah Trying 0.0.0.0... Connected to 0. Escape character is '^^]'. Connection closed by foreign host. Actually, dia tunggu jugak a few seconds before closing the connection. In short, memang tak sempat pun nak send any commands to the server. Please help. I am currently using RedHat 6. - o---ooO--(- Disclaimer / Footer -)--Oooo || | news://my.enemy.org/my-linux.bincang http://ku.rindu.net/penguin/ | | unsubscribe echo "unsubscribe penguin"|mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | || o-=[ Penguin @ My - Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ]=-o
Re: [Penguin] KERNEL PANIC
o---ooO--(- Important Message -)--Oooo | | | SAVE BANDWITH, SPACE, TIME MONEY, REPLY WITH PRUDENCE.| | | o=[ Penguin @ My - Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ]=o The linux is depend on the /etc/fstab to identify the hard disk partition table. Say if you use plug you hd in system X, IDE 1 Master, the linux will think it as /dev/hda . and partition created using that hd will be /dev/hda1, /dev/hda2, etc. The relationship is something like this Controller hd name partition named in /etc/fstab IDE 1 Master /dev/hda/dev/hda1... /dev/hdax IDE 1 Slave /dev/hdb/dev/hdb1... /dev/hdbx IDE 2 Master /dev/hdc /dev/hdc1... /dev/hdcx IDE 2 Slave /dev/hdd/dev/hdd1.. /dev/hddx To fix this problem, you can 1. plug it back to the new system, change /etc/fstab files entry to suite old 486 system or 2. If you old 486 support EIDE, plug it to the same controller as like in your new system. [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 05-08-99 04:19:27 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Tan Soe Liang/HQ/SIME_BANK) Subject: [Penguin] KERNEL PANIC hmm .. camana nak setat ni.. aaa.. OK! saye baru jer menginstall PC 486 saya dengan redhat 6.0, masalahnye begini.. supaya proses menginstall lebih cepat saya telah mencabut hard disk PC tersebut dan memasangkannya kepada PC AMDK6 saya. tetapi... bile gue pasang balik hard disk tu kat PC 486 tu maka masalah yang saye jangkakan pon terjadi.. mesejnya menjadi begini: kernel panic: kernel compiled for Pentium+, requires TSC. In swapper task-not syncing. bagaimanakah nak membolehkan saya masuk shell command agar kernel buleh di kompail kembali? (adakah ia possible?) sekian. - o---ooO--(- Disclaimer / Footer -)--Oooo || | news://my.enemy.org/my-linux.bincang http://ku.rindu.net/penguin/ | | unsubscribe echo "unsubscribe penguin"|mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | || o-=[ Penguin @ My - Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ]=-o
Re: [Penguin] POP3
o---ooO--(- Important Message -)--Oooo | | | SAVE BANDWITH, SPACE, TIME MONEY, REPLY WITH PRUDENCE.| | | o=[ Penguin @ My - Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ]=o To switch off the pop3 feature under full installation setup, comment the pop3 under the /etc/inetd.conf file. [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 05-08-99 09:32:04 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Tan Soe Liang/HQ/SIME_BANK) Subject: Re: [Penguin] POP3 Biasanya RedHat, kalau install semua, pop3 by default memang on. Macamana boleh tak on by default tu? Regards, istaz - o---ooO--(- Disclaimer / Footer -)--Oooo || | news://my.enemy.org/my-linux.bincang http://ku.rindu.net/penguin/ | | unsubscribe echo "unsubscribe penguin"|mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | || o-=[ Penguin @ My - Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ]=-o
