Dalvik virtual machine

2007-11-15 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen


Did anyone look at Dalvik, the virtual machine Google made for the 
Android project.


   http://code.google.com/android/what-is-android.html
   http://www.betaversion.org/~stefano/linotype/news/110/


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Re: loadlib and libraries with '.' in the name

2005-10-04 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joshua Juran) writes:

[...]
  Google for NCI gtk. There is also a weekly summary entry but the
  xrl.us shortcut seems to have expired.

If I found the same link you found then it's not the xrl.us shortcut -
http://xrl.us/cw78 - but the Google group link that stopped working.
 
 I was wondering about that.  I Googled for tinyurl considered
 harmful and was surprised to find only one message, discussing the
 phishing risks.  I found no mention of the risk of outsourcing a
 bottleneck to a third party who has zero obligation or direct interest
 to continue providing the service.

The use case for the Metamark service was actually to have a short
links service for the perl list summaries (and for the perl community
in general) to use that's not outsourced.  (Metamark is running on a
server a few feet above the servers your mail went through to go out
to the list subscribers).
 
  From http://metamark.net/about#expire:
 
  Do Metamark links expire?
 
  The Metamark urls expire after five years or two years after the
  last usage - whichever comes later. However, if a link is never
[...]
  Of course, this is subject to change and is no promise but just my
  intentions as of this writing. If you want guarantees you can make
  your own service.

 To be quite frank, I'm astonished the practice exists here in the
 first place.  In my opinion it goes directly against the spirit of [...]

Are you talking about expiring links or putting the short links in the
mails that go out?

Apart from the occasional phishing link then we haven't actually
expired any of the metamark urls yet.

I did some random spot checks on old short URLs used in the summaries
and they get used regularly[1] so even if/when we start expiring
unused links in a few years they won't go away.

[1] by humans or bots, I don't know - for your privacy we don't track
more than a daily count.


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Re: [DOCS] Documentation tools

2004-03-10 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Sugalski) writes:

[...]
 It's an ongoing fight between the go get the libs and install them
 folks and the self-contained distribution folks. I'm in the latter
 category. :)

As Larry said, self-contained is good for users.  For developers
(and CVS) go get the libs is appropriate.

A script can assemble the user distribution(s) with pre-defined
versions of the libs to include.


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XGameStation

2003-08-11 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

We totally need to have Parrot running on this thing when it comes
out.  :-)

  http://www.xgamestation.com/


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Re: ponie-dev list

2003-07-10 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Richard Clamp wrote:

 Will this be made available via nntp.perl.org?  I don't currently see
 it when browsing http://nntp.x.perl.org/group/

NNTP groups are created automagically some hours after the list
starts getting traffic.  When it makes its way to Google Groups I
don't have much control over, but over time it'll get there too.


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ponie-dev list

2003-07-09 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen
Hi,

We setup a development list for ponie.

email

   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

to subscribe.


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Parrot binaries

2003-03-18 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

Hi,

I tried making an RPM .spec file for parrot and noticed that there's
still no make install target.

To be useful or at least fun to play with I think we would need to
also install things from languages/, but they seem to generally be,
uh, fairly unstructured.  :-)

I also noticed[1] that many of the scripts does not have the +x bit
set, and some of the documentation does(!).  It's not possible to
change this via CVS; but we can do it directly in the repository if
someone makes a list of what should be +x.


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[1] find ./ -type f -perm +001 

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tinderbox all in flames

2003-03-10 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

The tinderbox is all in flames.

http://xrl.us/dxm (Link to tinderbox.perl.org)

At least the miette, moof and rh80smoketest boxes should be
okay; and they are not.  :-) Sunday afternoon (PST) seems to be the
hour of the big arson.  However there are also indications that it
started Friday night.  :-)

Slightly related, I think we could use some more tinderbox testers.
Someone was running the tests on Compaq's test drive boxes, but that
seems to have stopped?


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Re: Parrot: maximizing the audience

2002-09-04 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jerome Quelin) writes:

In the works is a new mail setup where we easily can have lists at
other domains and still have them available via nntp etc.  At that
point I can create a dev at parrotcode.org list or something like
that. (or when the perl6 people want to work on the internals of perl6
:-) )


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Re: GC generation?

2002-08-21 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Sugalski) writes:

 Rollover won't really matter much, if we're careful with how we
 document things. Still, a UINTVAL should be at least 2^32--do you
 really think we'll have that many GC generations in a few hours?

... but having stuff running for months and months isn't that
uncommon. :-)


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design of bytecodes for interpretation

2002-08-21 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen


Raph Levien - http://www.advogato.org/person/raph and
http://www.levien.com/ - talks about bytecode interpreters at
http://www.advogato.org/person/raph/diary.html?start=261 

With references to David McCusker
http://treedragon.com/ged/map/ti/newAug02.htm#14aug02-stack-machines
and to Pierre Phaneuf
http://advogato.org/person/pphaneuf/diary.html?start=63



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Re: admin question: mail gets tagged as spam when mailing bugs..@perl..

2002-08-01 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (=?Latin1?Q?Josef_h=F6=F6k?=) writes:

 As im not that familiar with spamassasin maybe someone could help me
 stop getting my mail tagged as spam when mailing patches..

Let [EMAIL PROTECTED] know about such thing and we'll take care of
it.  Most likely it has been fixed by Robert upgrading our perl to
5.8.0 proper.


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Re: Perl 6 Summary for week ending 20020728

2002-08-01 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

On 1 Aug 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The mailing list archives are still not searchable (tell me about it),
 but Brent Dax points out that the ever wonderful Google has the site:
 keyword to do search restriction. I foresee a handy little autobookmark
 appearing on my galeon toolbar real soon now.

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=perl.perl6

(via colobus (by Jim Winstead), colobus patches (by me) and Stanford
NNTP (by Russ Allbery)).

 Stephen Rawls has a problem; Spamassassin thinks his patches are spam.

Spamassassin didn't play nicely with 5.8.0RC1 which we used until
yesterday when Robert upgraded it.

 1 It's late.

Don't worry about that.  I'm sure I'm not the only one to really
appreciate it, whenever it comes out.  Thanks!

 Actually, feedback on this would be good; in general adding the links is
 the most time consuming and tedious part of writing the summaries,
 requiring a net connection and time to check the links. Which leads me
 to wonder if I can't write links as predictable google searches using
 the message-id. Time to experiment methinks.

nntp.perl.org supports linking by message-id.

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Re: Parrot contribution

2002-07-12 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Porter) writes:

 Yeah, look at the so-called Parrot FAQ.  Someone needs to
 get serious and make a real FAQ for parrot developers.

I'm sure noone would mind if you start one!


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Re: Glossary Requests

2002-07-12 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Spier) writes:

 I've heard reports of rsync not working. I don't use it, so I dunno 
 there. If someone's got the proper incantation, or follows the 
 directions and it doesn't work (when you're *sure* you know what 
 you're doing) I'll update it appropriately.
 
 Yes, this seems broken at the moment.  I've opened a ticket and will
 get to fixing it soon. 

I fixed it.


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Re: latest Parrot

2002-06-18 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

On Tue, 18 Jun 2002, Robert Spier wrote:

 May I suggest requiring any non-trivial patches to contain:
   - the patch
   - a test
   - a human readable changelog entry

+1!

cvs log exports are rarely useful.

Usually they go

had problems with $baz so we changed $xfoo to $zfoo
to avoid the mangle bug

which is useful for the other developers to understand a change; but
the human readable changelog should go

fixed problem with $baz related to the mangle problem in python 5.1
and perl 6.9.3.

which is useful for users of the package to know about what to look
out for.


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cvs.perl.org moved

2002-06-06 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen


Robert Spier and I moved cvs.perl.org to a new server tonight.
Everything should work as usual, except maybe a bit faster.  If
anything is odd, not working as it used to, working better, not
working at all, please send us mail at cvs at perl.org.

The new server is faster, spiffier and better connected (the old one
was behind a double T1 in an office; the new one is in a datacenter
with 100Mbit ethernet to internap).  It's donated by the kind people
at Ticketmaster/CitySearch.


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ps. we couldn't make parrot work for our perl programs yet, but we
are using perl5.8 in production.   :-D

pps. we also decided to run some python on the server, so you can
 also access the cvs at http://cvs.perl.org/viewcvs/parrot/
 Let us know what you think and if that should be permanent
 (viewcvs; not python. We will keep using that when it
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Re: cvs.perl.org moved

2002-06-06 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sebastian Bergmann) writes:

[viewcvs]
   Have you had a look at CHORA [1]? It is IMHO the best web frontend for
   CVS.

no, we haven't. Robert added to our todo list to look at it.  


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Re: Parrot and Mono / .Net

2002-05-26 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sebastian Bergmann) writes:

 Leon Brocard wrote:
  Oh, this happens to be a FAQ. The main reason is:
 
  http://www.parrotcode.org/faq/
 
   I know the technical reason for a new VM, but this could've been a new
   VM for Perl 6 only. What I'd like to know is the motivation to open up
   the architecture and allow for plugable parser, compilers, bytecode
   generators / optimizers, ...

Because if we can support [insert random language here] then we can
support a very flexible Perl 6 language.  Or the other way around.


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tinderbox history

2002-03-20 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen


we have the log output from more than 15 tinderbox builds of
parrot.  In the current system they are each stored as a separate
file (in the same directory no less).

Would anyone get terribly upset if I nuked say everything older than
a month?


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Re: tinderbox history

2002-03-20 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote:

 Would anyone get terribly upset if I nuked say everything older than
 a month?

Too late now.  :-)  When it's done deleting then log lookups should
be a lot faster.

Robert said he'd work on a new tinderbox system (with help from
Zach).

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Perl6/Parrot status

2002-02-07 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

Hi,

I am tired of people thinking that we are not getting anywhere at
all, so if (some|any|every)one can send me a reasonably updated text
for the Where are we section at http://www.parrotcode.org/ and
likewise for http://dev.perl.org/perl6/status then I would most
appreciate it. :-)


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Parrot FAQ

2002-02-02 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen


I have added Adam's Parrot FAQ to www.parrotcode.org.

It's being loaded from cvs.perl.org every hour, so just checkin
updates to cvs there.

I do,

 $Faq =~ s!.*BODY.*?(.*)/BODY.*!$1!s;
 $Faq =~ s!href=http://www.panix.com/~ziggy/parrot.html!href=/faq/!g;

on it to fix it up, so when changing stuff, keep that in mind (or
tell me to fix the mason component).  It also tells that Ziggy is the
maintainer.  Ziggy, please let me know if you don't want to be
listed. :-)

There are no a name=...'s in the html, so the links from the toc
doesn't work.  If anyone wants to fix that, please do. 


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Re: Parrot FAQ

2002-02-02 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Bryan C. Warnock wrote:

 On Saturday 02 February 2002 08:53, Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote:
  I have added Adam's Parrot FAQ to www.parrotcode.org.
 
  It's being loaded from cvs.perl.org every hour, so just checkin
  updates to cvs there.
 
  I do,
 
   $Faq =~ s!.*BODY.*?(.*)/BODY.*!$1!s;
   $Faq =~ s!href=http://www.panix.com/~ziggy/parrot.html!href=/faq/!g;
 
  on it to fix it up, so when changing stuff, keep that in mind (or
  tell me to fix the mason component).  It also tells that Ziggy is the
  maintainer.  Ziggy, please let me know if you don't want to be
  listed. :-)
 
  There are no a name=...'s in the html, so the links from the toc
  doesn't work.  If anyone wants to fix that, please do.

 Thanks, Ask,

 Here's the name patch:

Cool.  I applied it.

Next time please apply yourself or send it without messed up
line endings. :)


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Re: CPP Namespace pollution

2002-01-26 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Melvin Smith wrote:

 Hm, the FAQ would be not linked from either of dev.perl.org or
 www.parrotcode.org. That's a bummer.

 Ask, could we move this to dev.perl.org please?

 Dare I suggest we check it into the repository and have a script
 update the site from the repository. At least then we can tell
 people to check the FAQ in your parrot distribution.

That sounds good to me.


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Re: Parrot FAQ

2001-12-09 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Fink) writes:

 On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 11:02:34AM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote:

  Q: Who has commit privileges? Who's responsible for what?
  
  A: Good question. Simon and Dan, and a handful of others.
 
 Can anyone fill in the handful? Ask, maybe? I'm hoping for a breakdown
 by section.

[ask@netlabs ask]$ grep \|parrot /cvs/public/CVSROOT/avail
avail|ask|parrot,mod_parrot,web,perlfaq,CVSROOT,cvs-test,qpsmtpd
avail|simon|parrot
avail|acme|parrot,web/parrotcode
avail|dan|parrot
avail|bdwheele|parrot
avail|gregor|parrot
avail|thgibbs|parrot
avail|brentdax|parrot
avail|gnat|parrot,web/parrotcode,perlfaq
avail|tom|parrot
avail|rootbeer|parrot
avail|ajgough|parrot
avail|jgoff|parrot

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Re: cvs.perl.org downtime (fwd)

2001-12-09 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote:

 the city is doing some compliance testing whatever on the building
 where cvs.perl.org is this Sunday (don't ask, I think it sounds odd
 too!).

power is back up and so is the box where cvs.perl.org is.  have fun.
:)


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cvs.perl.org downtime (fwd)

2001-12-08 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 17:25:31 -0800 (PST)
From: Ask Bjoern Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: cvs.perl.org downtime

hi committers,

the city is doing some compliance testing whatever on the building
where cvs.perl.org is this Sunday (don't ask, I think it sounds odd
too!).

They say that we can expect downtime from 6am to 6pm PST.

perl.org mailservice and all other websites than cvs.perl.org are
hosted in the real colo so they will not be affected.

I'm sure there's someone you ought to spend time with anyway, so
don't cry too much. :-)


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tinderbox

2001-11-15 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen


we have even more clients now,

  http://tinderbox.perl.org/tinderbox/showbuilds.cgi?tree=parrot

... so if you commit stuff be sure to check with tinderbox 20-60
minutes later that you at least didn't break anything obvious.

:-)


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Re: Revamping the build system

2001-10-27 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paolo Molaro) writes:

[...]
 I'm going to bite and say the words (and get the flames).
 
   autoconf automake libtool

FWIW: I have the impression that they're not very happy with those in
the apache httpd project. (But I am blissfully ignorant about the
details).


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Re: Revamping the build system

2001-10-27 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Simon Cozens) writes:

 On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 09:05:33AM -0400, Andy Dougherty wrote:
  While imperfect and Unix-centric, we can (and should!) learn a lot
  from auto{conf,make} and metaconfig.
 
 *nod*. I just had a look around, and most of the other languages are
 using autoconf. But then, most of the other languages don't run on
 upwards of 70 platforms. :(
 
 I wonder how serious we need to be about keeping that goal.

I think we need to be serious about making it possibly.  The freaks
with the weirdo platforms will make it work.


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Re: Languages in the core source tree?

2001-10-27 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Sugalski) writes:

 At 07:15 AM 10/22/2001 -0700, Wizard wrote:
   1) Do we put them all in the parrot CVS tree
 
 I think it would be good for the languages to be in tree, but I would like
 to have it under a different mechanism for cvs checkout. In other words, the
 default cvs checkout of parrot does NOT check out the languages tree, but a
 separate checkout is required for the languages.
 
 I'll ask Ask and see what we can do for that.

one way to do that would be to make a parrot-languages module and put
them in there.  Then we can have a 'parrot-full' module that will checkout 
parrot/ and parrot-languages into parrot/languages/

It can probably be done in two billion other ways, of which some might
fit better. But it's 6.20am and my brain's associative search system
is only processing about 0.14 ideas per minute.


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Re: Languages in the core source tree?

2001-10-27 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael G Schwern) writes:

[...]
 However, the author(s) of each individual interpreter should be
 responsible for their own language.  Basically, a mini-pumpinking.

oh, just to make it clear: Our CVS setup supports just giving someone
access to certain directories within a cvs module.

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Re: Schedule of things to come

2001-10-27 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Sugalski) writes:

[...]
 If the 0.02/0.03/0.04 versions of parrot leak, it's not that big a deal 
 since it's not like we've got a long-running persistent interpreter like 
 mod_parrot or anything... ;-)

I think Robert and I are planning to get mod_parrot to work as soon as
parrot has some kind of I/O. :-)


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tinderbox

2001-10-14 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen


tinderbox on onion seems to have been running amok, so I set +t on
the tinderbox users home dir on onion so it'll queue up the mail
until Zach can take a look at it.

So, no tinderbox for now.  (not there there is any useful results on
the page right now anyway. The only two clients with results
have CVS conflicts. Simon?).

If someone have spare tuits then a rewrite of tinderbox would be
cool I think.  Without having looked too closely it seems like the
code sucks bigtime.


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cvs.perl.org downtime

2001-10-13 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen


cvs.perl.org is in the office at ValueClick.  We are getting a
diesel generator plugged in there, so power might be out for some
hours here early Saturday morning PST.  (I'm not sure if they'll
shut stuff down or just let it run off the UPSes).

any questions - send mail to cvs at perl.org.


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moving little_languages/ to languages/jako/

2001-10-05 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen


would anyone object to moving parrot/little_languages/* to
parrot/languages/jako/?  Then we can add the beginnings of the other
compilers to parrot/languages/{perl|ruby|python|Foo|C}

Of course they should have their own repositories at some point, but
right now it seems like they are more for parrot than for anything
else. =)  


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Re: moving little_languages/ to languages/jako/

2001-10-05 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ask Bjoern Hansen) writes:

 would anyone object to moving parrot/little_languages/* to
 parrot/languages/jako/?  Then we can add the beginnings of the other
 compilers to parrot/languages/{perl|ruby|python|Foo|C}
 
 Of course they should have their own repositories at some point, but
 right now it seems like they are more for parrot than for anything
 else. =)  

(uh, and of course: I would move them directly in the cvs repository
as to preserve the revision history properly).


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Re: Perl6 Tinderbox

2001-10-05 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

On Fri, 5 Oct 2001, Zach Lipton wrote:

 Also, I don't see any clients running yet, if you are having a problem,
 please let me know so I can fix it!

uh, it didn't work for me when I nohup'ed it (it made blank
reports).

other than that, then I have clients on Linux and FreeBSD
going.  Mac OS X will run if I can make it work properly when it
only runs when I happen to have the powerbook on.

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Re: [perl6]Re: Perl6 Tinderbox

2001-10-05 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

On Fri, 5 Oct 2001, Zach Lipton wrote:

 Wow, great!
 
 I'm not sure about the nohup issue, but I'm looking into it.
 
 We really could use some windows clients and some rare platforms (vms? Etc)

I'll see about setting up cygwin in a bit.
 
I also changed the urls a bit and made http://tinderbox.perl.org/
itself work; hope you don't mind.

http://tinderbox.perl.org/
http://tinderbox.perl.org/parrot
http://tinderbox.perl.org/perl5

Zach, we should rename perl6 to parrot and perl to perl5.  
Can you do that and make it still work for my perl6 clients for
now? :-)

How about setting up bonsai?


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Re: Parrot 0.0.2

2001-10-03 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Simon Cozens) writes:

 Any objections to a release today? How's Cygwin and Win32 looking?

except that `make test` always just tells me tat `test' is up to date,
then both cygwin and darwin looks good.


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Re: (Fwd) Parrot Smoke Sep 23 07:00:00 2001 UTC dec_osf 4.0

2001-09-23 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

On Sun, 23 Sep 2001, Mattia Barbon wrote:

  Cool; thanks for this. Can you add a row to your smoke configuration
  which does *not* change the default type sizes?

 Sure. WRT segfaults, I think I found the cause for the problems:
 The files inf cvs.perl.org/snapshots seem out of date.

Oops. While debugging CVS it seems like we ended up with a version
of CVS that doesn't support the -R option. (which the snapshot
script is using).

Fixed, the latest snapshot should be much better now.  =)


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Re: [PATCH] Remove warning when compiling test.c

2001-09-22 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leon Brocard) writes:

[...] 
 Attached is a trivial patch which adds a newline. 

I've put that in CVS.  I also renamed the 'test' executable we make to
test_siz (just because using test on a unix system is bad karma).


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Re: Anyone got any apple connections?

2001-09-22 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Sugalski) writes:

 I've got a mac suitable for setting up as a test platform for parrot
 now, courtesy of Grant. Does anyone have any connections with Apple?
 I'd like to see about getting an OS X server license for it so we
 can do automated smoke testing and suchlike things, but my budget,
 alas, doesn't have the spare $500 at the moment.

Uhmn, I am pretty sure that OS X server is just OS X with more tools
(and maybe a slightly differently compiled kernel).


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http://www.parrotcode.org/

2001-09-21 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen


Leon Brocard added the first examples to the brand new Parrot
site. :-) (the first page is just http://dev.perl.org/perl6/code -
sometime in this weekend I'll probably get it moved around so
dev.perl.org just references parrotcode for Parrot information).

http://www.parrotcode.org/examples/


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Re: cvs snapshots

2001-09-20 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, H.Merijn Brand wrote:

[...]
  it's only updated every 6th hour.  Maybe I'll get time to get it to
  update more often (but not create a snapshot) tonight.
 
 From all my machines I get
 
 i2:/l1/pro/3gl/CPAN/parrot 104  rsync -avz rsync://cvs.perl.org::parrot-HEAD/ .
 failed to connect to cvs.perl.org - Can't assign requested address

Hmn, no idea. What does a traceroute say?


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Re: Complete failure on Linux/PowerPC with 64bit ints.

2001-09-20 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andy Dougherty) writes:

[...]
 That's because assemble.pl hasn't been patched yet to use the right
 pack_type.  You can either apply my patch from yesterday [...]

If you sign up for an account at http://dev.perl.org/auth/account I am
sure that Dan and Simon will let me flip the cvs access bit for
you. =)

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Re: Feature Freeze

2001-09-20 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Simon Cozens) writes:

[...]
 So, if you're running on one of the core platforms, please check out a *clean*
 CVS copy, try and build and post the output of make test.

On FreeBSD 4.x all passes (or skips) except the first t/op/integer
test. (as other people have mentioned).
 
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Re: Parrot Smoke Sep 20 00:00:02 2001 MSWin32 4.0

2001-09-20 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mattia Barbon) writes:

 Automated smoke report for patch Sep 20 00:00:02 2001

I've changed the .timestamp file to be UTC and include that
information.

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Re: [PATCH] Fix ivsize and nvsize issues

2001-09-20 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brent Dax) writes:

 +(@c{qw(ivsize opsize nvsize)})=split('/', `test$c{exe}`);

I changed this so it works without having . in $PATH.


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Re: cvs snapshots

2001-09-19 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Mattia Barbon wrote:

   Any chance on rsync? If so, I might set up another smoke suite to bother you
   with reports :)
  
  rsync -av cvs.perl.org::parrot-HEAD parrot
 For smoking it'll be nice to hace some file with a timestamp of the
 checkout, i.e. in the script do something like
 
 cvs update -D some_date
 echo some_date  .timestamp

the timestamp of the tar ball should include this, but I've added a
.timestamp file anyway. :-)


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Re: CVS update mailing list

2001-09-17 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nathan Torkington) writes:

 Simon Cozens writes:
  So maybe the best thing would be for people to send patches to the
  list and Cc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I wonder if, when RT comes online, we could use that to manage the
 patches.  In other words, patches become open to do items, which are
 cleared when the patches are definitively applied or rejected.

uh, RT is online.


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cvs snapshots

2001-09-17 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen


oops, I forgot to tell anyone.  I made CVS export and tar up a
snapshot every 6 hours. It is available at
http://cvs.perl.org/snapshots/parrot/


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Re: cvs snapshots

2001-09-17 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, H.Merijn Brand wrote:

 On Mon 17 Sep 2001 23:08, Ask Bjoern Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  oops, I forgot to tell anyone.  I made CVS export and tar up a
  snapshot every 6 hours. It is available at
  http://cvs.perl.org/snapshots/parrot/
 
 Any chance on rsync? If so, I might set up another smoke suite to bother you
 with reports :)

rsync -av cvs.perl.org::parrot-HEAD parrot

it's only updated every 6th hour.  Maybe I'll get time to get it to
update more often (but not create a snapshot) tonight.


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mod_parrot

2001-09-15 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen


Robert Spier and I just had some fun.

Parrot for Apache. :-)

http://cvs.perl.org/cvsweb/mod_parrot/

It's really simplistic and doesn't actually work.  As Robert just
told me, it'll be really ugly to get to actually send stuff back to
the browser until Parrot has some kind of real IO subsystem.  But it
does do the work. :-)


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cvs

2001-09-14 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen


the cvs box will be down for a little while again. Hopefully I'll
get it moved to the other box over the weekend where I can give
access to the few new people Dan and Simon have asked me to make
accounts for.

And it'll be more stable. And faster. Harder Better Faster Stronger.

:-)


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[Python-Dev] Intel's Open Runtime Platform (ORP) (fwd)

2001-08-07 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen


I don't think anyone mentioned this before here...

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 19:43:53 -0700
From: Neil Schemenauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Python-Dev] Intel's Open Runtime Platform (ORP)

I just saw this while updating my Debian machine:

Package: orp
Description: Java VM and JIT from Intel Research Lab.
 ORP stands for Open Runtime Platform, which is an Intel(TM) Open
 Source research platform for investigating dynamic compilation and
 memory management technologies. The basic ORP system incorporates a
 fast code generating JIT (Just-In-Time) as well as an optimizing
 JIT. It also includes several GC (Garbage Collection) algorithms,
 ranging from a simple mark-sweep algorithm to an advanced train
 algorithm.

Its available at http://intel.com/research/mrl/orp/ and is released
under a BSD-like license.

  Neil

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new lists. perl6-internals-api-*

2000-11-13 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen


Subscribe by sending mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For
example [EMAIL PROTECTED] for the
first list.

More information at http://dev.perl.org/lists


CHAIR: Dan Sugalski
WORKING GROUP: perl6-internals-api-extensions
DEADLINE: Nov 24, 2000
MISSION: Develop the API for perl 6 extensions
DESCRIPTION: This group is charged with developing the API perl
presents to extensions. This group should develop an RFC for this,
as well as a header file, stub source, and as a few rough test
programs.

CHAIR: Dan Sugalski
WORKING GROUP: perl6-internals-api-embed
DEADLINE: Nov 24, 2000
MISSION: Develop the API for perl 6 embedders
DESCRIPTION: This group is charged with developing the API perl
presents to embedding programs. This group should develop an RFC for
this, as well as a header file, stub source, and as a few rough test
programs.

CHAIR: Dan Sugalski
WORKING GROUP: perl6-internals-api-parser
DEADLINE: Nov 24, 2000
MISSION: Develop the API for the perl 6 parser
DESCRIPTION: This group is charged with developing the API for the
perl 6 parser/lexer/tokeniser. This group should develop an RFC for
this, as well as a header file, stub source, and as a few rough test
programs. The parser will be written in perl.

CHAIR: Dan Sugalski
WORKING GROUP: perl6-internals-syntax-tree
DEADLINE: Nov 24, 2000
MISSION: Develop the syntax tree structure for perl 6
DESCRIPTION: This group is charged with developing the structure of
the syntax tree (or HIR, if you'd prefer that term) that the perl 6
parser hands off to the bytecode compiler, optimizer, and execution
engine.



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new list: perl6-internals-unicode

2000-09-26 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen



CHAIR: Simon Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WORKING GROUP: perl6-internals-unicode
CHAIR: Simon Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DEADLINE: Oct 28, 2000
MISSION: Develop a consistent vision of how perl should
handle unicode (and all character data) internally.
DESCRIPTION: This group's mission is to get perl 6 a solid
foundation to handle unicode data. This includes how perl
handles character and binary data internally, as well as
how it presents that data to external code. (Including
binary extensions and embedding apps)

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Re: perl6-internals-unicode request

2000-09-25 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, Dan Sugalski wrote:

 At 09:34 AM 9/25/00 +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
 Dan,
  I've finally woken up and I now have 8 RFCs on Unicode handling[1] I'm
 about to throw at the librarian. While I'm perfectly happy to have them
 disgust (sic.) here, I think it might be sensible to start up a WG for
 discussing Unicode Things. I'm even fool enough to volunteer to chair it if
 you like. What do you want to do?
 
 Works for me. I'm not entirely sure how this'll dovetail with Larry's ideas 
 for data handling at the perl level but we can always fall back to Plan B 
 if need be. I would prefer that, whatever you come up with, perl's not tied 
 to any one particular character encoding under the hood. (Yeah, and I 
 include 7-bit ASCII too..)
 
 Ask, can you set up perl6-internals-unicode please?

Sure. Fill in the blanks:

WORKING GROUP: perl6-internals-unicode
CHAIR: Simon Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DEADLINE: 
MISSION:
DESCRIPTION: 



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Re: Where to get RFCs?

2000-08-02 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Bradley M. Kuhn wrote:

 It appears Dan posted some internals RFCs, and due to some
 trouble with my subscription request, I didn't see them.  I
 realize that I can get them out of the archives if I dig, but is
 there a WWW site yet where all RFCs are being kept?

http://tmtowtdi.perl.org/rfc/
 
(will soon be http://dev.perl.org/rfc/)


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