Re: Semi-OT: Good compiler book?
Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 04:38 PM 8/8/2001 +, Brian J. Kifiak wrote: > > > Unfortunately all the references I have for alternatives really > > > require what the Dragon Book teaches as a foundation. > > > > What are the references? > > ... Advanced Compiler Design & Implementation I really like that book too. IMHO he didn't really need to write all the examples in his very own language though. (Who does he think he is, Knuth? ;) The best beginner book on the subject of compilers IMHO is Appel's Modern Compiler Implementation in ML. It is *much* easier to read than the dragon book. There are other language versions of it, but it seems kind of heretical to read Appel without ML. - Ken
Re: Semi-OT: Good compiler book?
On Sun, 26 Aug 2001, Ken Fox wrote: > Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 04:38 PM 8/8/2001 +, Brian J. Kifiak wrote: > > > > Unfortunately all the references I have for alternatives really > > > > require what the Dragon Book teaches as a foundation. > > > > > > What are the references? > > > > ... Advanced Compiler Design & Implementation > > I really like that book too. IMHO he didn't really need to write all > the examples in his very own language though. (Who does he think he is, > Knuth? ;) Heh. Everyone invents their own. I think that's because there are only two or three real ones in use at that level, and I bet they're all nasty and terribly embarrasing as instructional material. :) > The best beginner book on the subject of compilers IMHO is Appel's > Modern Compiler Implementation in ML. It is *much* easier to read > than the dragon book. There are other language versions of it, but > it seems kind of heretical to read Appel without ML. I'll have to go pick that one up. I didn't bother when I saw it, since ML didn't interest me. I think it's time to remedy that. Dan
RE: Semi-OT: Good compiler book?
And also on the introductory level: Art of Compiler Design, The: Theory and Practice http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0130481904 Constructing Language Processors for Little Languages http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471597546
Re: Semi-OT: Good compiler book?
At 04:38 PM 8/8/2001 +, Brian J. Kifiak wrote: > > Unfortunately all the references I have for > > alternatives really require what the Dragon Book teaches as a > > foundation. > >What are the references? Since several people have asked already... There are two I've been using. I think they're on the book list, but in case they're not: Advanced Compiler Design & Implementation Steven S. Muchnick Morgan Kaufmann ISBN 1-55860-320-4 Building an Optimizing Compiler Robert Morgan Digital Press ISBN 1-8-179-X I like the first better--it's a more comfortable read. (If you can consider any of this stuff comfortable... :) It probably wouldn't hurt to drag out a book on Linear Algebra while you're at it, but I don't have a reference to one of those handy. Dan --"it's like this"--- Dan Sugalski even samurai [EMAIL PROTECTED] have teddy bears and even teddy bears get drunk
Re: Semi-OT: Good compiler book?
On Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:03:56 -0700, Brent Dax wrote: >I'm going on vacation soon, and I'd like to get a good book on writing >compilers--hopefully one that will help me when we actually start coding >Perl 6. Any suggestions? I have no formal education on compilers, and >I only know C, C++ and Perl (duh). Unless you get a kick out of mathematical proofs, you probably won't get too much out of the dragon book. It ain't very practical. I would look out for a book that gives a *practical* introduction to compiler design, i.e. one that builds a working compiler on the side. Although I've really only browsed in them, I think I'd rather look into "Crafting a Compiler" by C. Fisher and R. Leblanc, or "A retargetable C compiler", by D. Hanson and C. Fraser, which forms the basis for lcc (one shoot-off is lcc-win32, an excellent, freely available C compiler with IDE, for Win32). Both books get good reviews. -- Bart.
Re: Semi-OT: Good compiler book?
or, cheaper still, used: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0201100886/ -asdlfjasfey On Tuesday, August 7, 2001, at 06:11 PM, Mark Koopman wrote: > > > >> The official title is: >> Compilers : Principles, Techniques, and Tools >>by Alfred V. Aho, Ravi Sethi, Jeffrey D. Ullman (Contributor) >> ISBN: 0201100886 >> >> You can get it from Fatbrain: >> >> http://www1.fatbrain.com/asp/bookinfo/bookinfo.asp?theisbn=0201100886&vm= >> > or cheaper at Bookpool > > http://www.bookpool.com/.x/6jipibmev1/sm/0201100886 > > -- -mark koopman > > WebSideStory 10182 Telesis Court > San Diego CA 92121 858-546-1182 ext 318 > > > -- -mark koopman > > WebSideStory 10182 Telesis Court > San Diego CA 92121 858-546-1182 ext 318 > > >
Re: Semi-OT: Good compiler book?
At 06:06 PM 8/7/2001 -0700, Dave Storrs wrote: >The Dragon Book is (AFAIK) still considered the definitive book on the >subject. It's called that because it has (or at least, had, for the >edition that I bought) a red dragon on the cover. > >The official title is: > >Compilers : Principles, Techniques, and Tools > by Alfred V. Aho, Ravi Sethi, Jeffrey D. Ullman (Contributor) >ISBN: 0201100886 Be aware that the Dragon Book has a few little quirks, and is definitely an intro book. Compiler technology's progressed quite a bit past what's presented in there. Unfortunately all the references I have for alternatives really require what the Dragon Book teaches as a foundation. (It's a bit dodgy going without it) >On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Brent Dax wrote: > > > I'm going on vacation soon, and I'd like to get a good book on writing > > compilers--hopefully one that will help me when we actually start coding > > Perl 6. Any suggestions? I have no formal education on compilers, and > > I only know C, C++ and Perl (duh). > > > > (If this is too off-topic, let me know.) > > > > Thanks, > > --Brent Dax > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Dan --"it's like this"--- Dan Sugalski even samurai [EMAIL PROTECTED] have teddy bears and even teddy bears get drunk
Re: Semi-OT: Good compiler book?
>The official title is: > >Compilers : Principles, Techniques, and Tools >by Alfred V. Aho, Ravi Sethi, Jeffrey D. Ullman (Contributor) >ISBN: 0201100886 > >You can get it from Fatbrain: > >http://www1.fatbrain.com/asp/bookinfo/bookinfo.asp?theisbn=0201100886&vm= > or cheaper at Bookpool http://www.bookpool.com/.x/6jipibmev1/sm/0201100886 -- -mark koopman WebSideStory 10182 Telesis Court San Diego CA 92121 858-546-1182 ext 318 -- -mark koopman WebSideStory 10182 Telesis Court San Diego CA 92121 858-546-1182 ext 318
Re: Semi-OT: Good compiler book?
The Dragon Book is (AFAIK) still considered the definitive book on the subject. It's called that because it has (or at least, had, for the edition that I bought) a red dragon on the cover. The official title is: Compilers : Principles, Techniques, and Tools by Alfred V. Aho, Ravi Sethi, Jeffrey D. Ullman (Contributor) ISBN: 0201100886 You can get it from Fatbrain: http://www1.fatbrain.com/asp/bookinfo/bookinfo.asp?theisbn=0201100886&vm= Dave On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Brent Dax wrote: > I'm going on vacation soon, and I'd like to get a good book on writing > compilers--hopefully one that will help me when we actually start coding > Perl 6. Any suggestions? I have no formal education on compilers, and > I only know C, C++ and Perl (duh). > > (If this is too off-topic, let me know.) > > Thanks, > --Brent Dax > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Semi-OT: Good compiler book?
I'm going on vacation soon, and I'd like to get a good book on writing compilers--hopefully one that will help me when we actually start coding Perl 6. Any suggestions? I have no formal education on compilers, and I only know C, C++ and Perl (duh). (If this is too off-topic, let me know.) Thanks, --Brent Dax [EMAIL PROTECTED]
