Re: [pgadmin-hackers] pgAdmin3 port to MacOsX

2003-09-14 Thread Andreas Pflug
Adam H.Pendleton wrote:

Hmmm.  Well, I don't have the Metrowerks compiler, but I could 
probably get my hands on it if I needed to.  I am not using Mac OS X 
10.3, but I probably could if I needed to (though I don't know how 
this would help us).

What is needed to get wxMac to support Apple's Unicode on 10.2?  Is 
there anything I can do to help?  I've got the time, but I don't know 
the particulars about what would need to be done. 
I just checked what happens with our UTF-8 translations, and found that 
a non-unicode pgAdmin will work with latin charset languages, so we have 
many European languages.
We could go for 10.2 non-unicode, and hoping for true Unicode with 10.3 
in the near future.

Currently, the reading of unicode files is broken for non-unicode 
builds, this needs fixed.
Regards,
Andreas

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Re: [pgadmin-hackers] pgAdmin3 port to MacOsX

2003-09-14 Thread Adam H . Pendleton
On Sunday, Sep 14, 2003, at 12:41 US/Eastern, Stefan Csomor wrote:

Hi

basically we have two options :

I have implemented unicode for wxMac a few weeks ago with one 
restriction :

for 10.2 we need the Metrowerks Compiler environement, since their 
C-runtime
supports wchar, whereas Apple's Dev Tools don't , rewriting wxMac to 
use
apple's own unicode support at the moment for me is out of the 
question due
to time constraints

for 10.3 we can work with the apple developer tools

So I guess it would be the easiest way to go for 10.3 only...

Hmmm.  Well, I don't have the Metrowerks compiler, but I could probably 
get my hands on it if I needed to.  I am not using Mac OS X 10.3, but I 
probably could if I needed to (though I don't know how this would help 
us).

What is needed to get wxMac to support Apple's Unicode on 10.2?  Is 
there anything I can do to help?  I've got the time, but I don't know 
the particulars about what would need to be done.

I don't think that supporting 10.3 only is a good idea, only because 
10.3 is still in beta, and would be just a useful as producing no Mac 
port at all.  OTOH, I can take a look at getting a Metrowerks compiler 
to produce binary snapshots.

Dave, what do you think?

ahp


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Re: [pgadmin-hackers] pgAdmin3 port to MacOsX

2003-09-14 Thread Stefan Csomor
Dear Friends,

The last few days, I got in contact with MacOsX wxWindows and asked for help 
for pgAdmin3 MacOsX port.

Please find enclosed the kind answer from "Stefan Csomor" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> proposing some support.

Any comments?

Cheers,
Jean-Michel

**
Dear Jean-Michel

thank you very much for the kind invitation. Unfortunately I am very short
of time right now, as I have to invest all my free time into wxMac itself,
however the way we usually can move forward quite fast is that any specific
problems you have on mac are adressed to me directly, with a description on
how to reproduce the bug, I then update my pg cvs and can try to debug and
either fix it in wxMac directly or submit a patch to your project (which I'd
prefer so that you can verify whether the patch really solves the problem or
hides the symptoms..-)

Is this a workable compromise for you ?

Best Regards,

Stefan

> -Original Message-
> From: Jean-Michel POURE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Samstag, 13. September 2003 19:48
> To: Stefan Csomor
> Subject: pgAdmin3 port to MacOsX
>
> Dear Stefan,
>
> Just in case you are interested, our group would like to port
> pgAdmin3 to MacOsX. pgAdmin3 is the new generation
> multiplatform administration interface for PostgreSQL.
>
> All information is available on http://www.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3.
>
> If you would like to join our team, you are more than
> welcome. We do not have much knowledge of MacOsX. We need the
> help from a skilled developer.
>
> Cheers, Jean-Michel Pour�>


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Re: [pgadmin-hackers] pgAdmin3 port to MacOsX

2003-09-14 Thread Adam H.Pendleton
I think the first hurdle with pgAdmin3 on the Mac platform isn't 
wxWindows related, but rather that Mac OS X doesn't have unicode 
support (at least not in the traditional sense).  This means that 
wxWindows doesn't support Unicode on the Mac.  Whether wxWindows can be 
made to support Uncode is a question Stefan will have to answer, but as 
far as I can tell the answer is probably no.  What does this leave us 
in terms of Mac options.  Do we want to support a Mac platform without 
Unicode?  If so, it will probably require a bunch of #ifdef's and 
Mac-specific code inside pgAdmin3 to do so.

In any event, I am more than willing to donate my time to do any work 
that is necessary, as soon as we have some kind of consensus as to the 
direction of the port.  Also, if I am wrong about the Unicode thing, 
let me know what I need to do to get it to work.

ahp


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[pgadmin-hackers] I'm a brazilian portuguese translator

2003-09-14 Thread Miguel Axcar
Hi,

Following the fisrt step posted on
http://www.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/translation.php, I'm
declaring myself with brazilian portuguese translator
of pgAdmin3 Website.

"Subscribe to pgAdmin hackers mailing list and declare
yourself as a translator by sending an email to the
list. Upon reception of your email, we will add you to
the Translation in progress list and make sure two
translators do not work at the same time for the same
language."

Best regards,

Luiz Miguel Axcar
Campinas, São Paulo, Brazil

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Re: [pgadmin-hackers] pgadmin III Turkish language file

2003-09-14 Thread Jean-Michel POURE
Dear Devrim,
Thanks, your translation was publised.
Cheers, Jean-Michel


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Re: [pgadmin-hackers] pgAdmin3 port to MacOsX

2003-09-14 Thread Stefan Csomor
Hi

basically we have two options :

I have implemented unicode for wxMac a few weeks ago with one restriction :

for 10.2 we need the Metrowerks Compiler environement, since their C-runtime
supports wchar, whereas Apple's Dev Tools don't , rewriting wxMac to use
apple's own unicode support at the moment for me is out of the question due
to time constraints

for 10.3 we can work with the apple developer tools

So I guess it would be the easiest way to go for 10.3 only...

Best,

Stefan

> I think the first hurdle with pgAdmin3 on the Mac platform 
> isn't wxWindows related, but rather that Mac OS X doesn't 
> have unicode support (at least not in the traditional sense). 
>  This means that wxWindows doesn't support Unicode on the 
> Mac.  Whether wxWindows can be made to support Uncode is a 
> question Stefan will have to answer, but as far as I can tell 
> the answer is probably no.  What does this leave us in terms 
> of Mac options.  Do we want to support a Mac platform without 
> Unicode?  If so, it will probably require a bunch of #ifdef's 
> and Mac-specific code inside pgAdmin3 to do so.
> 
> In any event, I am more than willing to donate my time to do 
> any work that is necessary, as soon as we have some kind of 
> consensus as to the direction of the port.  Also, if I am 
> wrong about the Unicode thing, let me know what I need to do 
> to get it to work.
 



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[pgadmin-hackers] pgAdmin3 port to MacOsX

2003-09-14 Thread Jean-Michel POURE
Dear Stephan,

Thank you very much, this is the best organisation we can think about.

pgAdmin3 is a good way to test and implement the needed features of wxWindows 
2.5 for MacOsX. If possible, we would be happy to release binary packages of 
wxWindows for MacOsX, like we do in our daily snapshots.

See:
http://www.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/development.php#dev_snap

Do not hesitate to have a ***quick look at pgAdmin3 internals. Until now, 
we invested in a MacOsX 10.2 platform on a donated Mac to pgAdmin3 project. 
You can have free access to this machine, but this should not be needed as 
you have your own. This computer was meant to release daily snapshots of both 
wxWindows and pgAdmin3. But we never succeeded in compiling wxWindows with 
the required options.

See:
http://www.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/download.php#source

Any comments and guideline are welcome. Maybe you should register 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and give us directions.

Cheers, Jean-Michel Pouré


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