Re: [GENERAL] anti Christian bias?

2001-04-14 Thread Jan Wieck

Bruce Momjian wrote:
  On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Karl DeBisschop wrote:   As for postgresql
  having an anit-Christian bias? I think Lamar and  Bruce, among
  others, could not be accused of an anti-Christian bias.
 
  Thanks, Karl.
 
  As a matter of fact, I am an ordained Baptist minister.  Don't
  know about Bruce -- other than I like his catchy .sig... :-)

 Wow, pretty cool.  I am just an underling.  :-)

  If anyone asks about my .sig, I witness accordingly.  Otherwise,
  I'm not pushy -- not in this venue, at least.

 Becoming a Christian was the best thing that ever happened to me, and I
 want to share that, but I don't want to make people uncomfortable
 either.

Yeah, another religious thread :-)

Is  it  allowed  to borrow the Cristian rules even if I don't
believe in God and don't pray?  Do they fall under  the  GPCL
(General  Public  Christian  License) or are they distributed
under a BSDish style license? What if I link myself to them -
does  all  I'm doing then become property of the pope or some
church?

I'm not able to find any applicable disclaimers in my copy of
the  Bible.   A  quick  look  into  the  Koran didn't show up
anything either.


Jan

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Re: [GENERAL] anti Christian bias?

2001-04-14 Thread Lamar Owen

Jan Wieck wrote:
 I'm not able to find any applicable disclaimers in my copy of
 the  Bible.   A  quick  look  into  the  Koran didn't show up
 anything either.

FWIW, the 1611 King James text is in the Public Domain, as is the source
Hebrew and Greek from which it is translated.  That of course means that
there is no copyright associated with it; thus no license at all.
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Re: [GENERAL] anti Christian bias?

2001-04-14 Thread Brett W. McCoy

On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, Jan Wieck wrote:

 Is  it  allowed  to borrow the Cristian rules even if I don't
 believe in God and don't pray?  Do they fall under  the  GPCL
 (General  Public  Christian  License) or are they distributed
 under a BSDish style license? What if I link myself to them -
 does  all  I'm doing then become property of the pope or some
 church?

I think the Artistic License would apply here.  Larry Wall (another geeky
Christian) would probably approve. :-)

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Re: [GENERAL] anti Christian bias?

2001-04-13 Thread GH

On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 06:32:50PM +, some SMTP stream spewed forth: 
 Hi all:
 
 On page 29 of the PostgreSQL User's Guide, distributed with version 7.0.3,
 in table 3-8 Postgres Date Input, the last item in the Example column is
 January 8, 99 BC.  The corresponding Description item reads "Year 99 before
 the Common Era".  The author or the editor of this manual is obviously
 expressing his anti Christian bias in attempting to redefine BC to mean

Oh yes, obviously.
Has society actually been reduced to this level of absurdity?

Since when does Christianity cule the world and thus determine what
abbreviations should be used to mean what?
Furthermore, since when is acknowledgement of differing religious (and
other) views considered "anti-Christian"?

Please, we all have more important issues.

When people stop killing each other we can worry about what BC is
supposed to mean. I challenge you to stop them from killing each other.

gh

 "Common Era".  Throughout history BC, when associated with a date, has
 always stood for "Before Christ", and it always will.  I challenge the
 author/editor to tell us exactly what is the significant event in history
 that marks the boundary of what he chooses to call "Common Era".
 
 Nick
 
 
 
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Re: [GENERAL] anti Christian bias?

2001-04-13 Thread Bruce Momjian

 On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Karl DeBisschop wrote:   As for postgresql
 having an anit-Christian bias? I think Lamar and  Bruce, among
 others, could not be accused of an anti-Christian bias.
 
 Thanks, Karl.
 
 As a matter of fact, I am an ordained Baptist minister.  Don't
 know about Bruce -- other than I like his catchy .sig... :-)

Wow, pretty cool.  I am just an underling.  :-)

 If anyone asks about my .sig, I witness accordingly.  Otherwise,
 I'm not pushy -- not in this venue, at least.  

Becoming a Christian was the best thing that ever happened to me, and I
want to share that, but I don't want to make people uncomfortable
either.

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Re: [GENERAL] anti Christian bias?

2001-04-13 Thread Lamar Owen

On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote:
 Lamar Owen wrote:
  As a matter of fact, I am an ordained Baptist minister.  Don't
  know about Bruce -- other than I like his catchy .sig... :-)
 
 Wow, pretty cool.  I am just an underling.  :-)

Well, we're all underlings.  At most I can be an undershepherd (as a 'pastor'
is -- 'pastor' comes from the same root as 'pasture' -- one feeds, the other
is the place of feeding).  

Well, other than the marriage thing.  You do have to have 'the document' to do
that.

  If anyone asks about my .sig, I witness accordingly.  Otherwise, 
  I'm not pushy -- not in this venue, at least.
 Becoming a Christian was the best thing that ever happened to me, and I
 want to share that, but I don't want to make people uncomfortable
 either.

Your .sig is ideal for this venue.  And your choice of names for your children
make it pretty well obvious where your heart lies. :-)  And I've been in enough
Usenet 'discussions' to know what is and is not appropriate.  And I've preached
enough to enough congregations to, well, have a feel for when it's over the
line.  And I do get rather 'energetic' in _that_ venue.  And accepting Christ
was by far the best thing I've ever done.

But, to go back on topic, PostgreSQL isn't a religious vehicle, either way. 
However, if we're going to call it 'Before Common Era' then our date routines
really need to use the BCE abbreviation -- otherwise, call BC 'Before Christ'
-- although it becomes more than a little paradoxical when you realize after
much study (in particular, the times Cyrenius was governor of Syria that
intersect with the time Herod the Great was still alive (he died in 4 BC
according to most scholars)) that the historical Jesus was most likely born
anywhere from 6 to 4 _BC_, making the abbreviation more than a little
eyebrow-raising.  (ever heard a computer programmer/engineer preach :-))

God didn't set the calendar date -- a man did, 1600 or so years ago.
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