Re: Improvement of installation document

2019-03-26 Thread Yugo Nagata
On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 22:18:53 +0900 (JST)
Tatsuo Ishii  wrote:

> > One of our clients suggested that the installation document[1] lacks 
> > description
> > about requriements of installing *-devel packages. For example, 
> > postgresqlxx-devel
> > is required for using --with-pgsql, and openssl-devel for --with-openssl, 
> > and so on,
> > but these are not documented.
> > 
> > [1] http://www.pgpool.net/docs/pgpool-II-3.7.4/en/html/install-pgpool.html
> > 
> > I know the document of PostgreSQL[2] also lacks the description about 
> > openssl-devel,
> > kerberos-devel, etc. (except to readline-devl). However, it would be 
> > convenient
> > for users who want to install Pgpool-II from source code if the required 
> > packages
> > for installation are described in the document explicitly.
> > 
> > [2] https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/install-requirements.html
> > 
> > Is it not worth to consider this?
> 
> I am against the idea.
> 
> Development package names could differ according to
> distributions/OS. For example, the developement package of OpenSSL is
> "openssl-dev", not "openssl-devel" in Debian or Debian derived
> systems.
> 
> Another reason is, a user who is installaing software from source code
> should be familiar enough with the fact that each software requires
> development libraries.
> 
> In summary adding not-so-complete-list-of-development-package-names to
> our document will give incorrect information to novice users, and will
> be annoying for skilled users.

OK. I agreed.

# From this viewpoint, it would not be so good that PostgreSQL doc[2]
# mentions readline-devel, but this is noa a topic here.

> 
> > BTW, the Pgpool-II doc[2] says:
> > 
> > --with-memcached=path
> > Pgpool-II binaries will use memcached for in memory query cache. You 
> > have to install libmemcached. 
> > 
> > , but maybe libmemcached-devel is correct instead of libmemcached?
> 
> I don't think so. "libmemcached-devel" is just a package name in a
> cetain Linux distribution. "libmemcached" is a more geneal and non
> distribution dependent term.

Thanks for your explaination. I understood it.
 
> Best regards,
> --
> Tatsuo Ishii
> SRA OSS, Inc. Japan
> English: http://www.sraoss.co.jp/index_en.php
> Japanese:http://www.sraoss.co.jp


-- 
Yugo Nagata 




Re: Improvement of installation document

2019-03-26 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
> One of our clients suggested that the installation document[1] lacks 
> description
> about requriements of installing *-devel packages. For example, 
> postgresqlxx-devel
> is required for using --with-pgsql, and openssl-devel for --with-openssl, and 
> so on,
> but these are not documented.
> 
> [1] http://www.pgpool.net/docs/pgpool-II-3.7.4/en/html/install-pgpool.html
> 
> I know the document of PostgreSQL[2] also lacks the description about 
> openssl-devel,
> kerberos-devel, etc. (except to readline-devl). However, it would be 
> convenient
> for users who want to install Pgpool-II from source code if the required 
> packages
> for installation are described in the document explicitly.
> 
> [2] https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/install-requirements.html
> 
> Is it not worth to consider this?

I am against the idea.

Development package names could differ according to
distributions/OS. For example, the developement package of OpenSSL is
"openssl-dev", not "openssl-devel" in Debian or Debian derived
systems.

Another reason is, a user who is installaing software from source code
should be familiar enough with the fact that each software requires
development libraries.

In summary adding not-so-complete-list-of-development-package-names to
our document will give incorrect information to novice users, and will
be annoying for skilled users.

> BTW, the Pgpool-II doc[2] says:
> 
> --with-memcached=path
> Pgpool-II binaries will use memcached for in memory query cache. You have 
> to install libmemcached. 
> 
> , but maybe libmemcached-devel is correct instead of libmemcached?

I don't think so. "libmemcached-devel" is just a package name in a
cetain Linux distribution. "libmemcached" is a more geneal and non
distribution dependent term.

Best regards,
--
Tatsuo Ishii
SRA OSS, Inc. Japan
English: http://www.sraoss.co.jp/index_en.php
Japanese:http://www.sraoss.co.jp



Re: Improvement of installation document

2019-03-26 Thread Yugo Nagata
Hi,

I apologize that I accidentally sent the following email to this list.
Please disregard this.

I am sorry for making a lot of noise.

Regard,

On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 20:38:31 +0900
Yugo Nagata  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> One of our clients suggested that the installation document[1] lacks 
> description
> about requriements of installing *-devel packages. For example, 
> postgresqlxx-devel
> is required for using --with-pgsql, and openssl-devel for --with-openssl, and 
> so on,
> but these are not documented.
> 
> [1] http://www.pgpool.net/docs/pgpool-II-3.7.4/en/html/install-pgpool.html
> 
> I know the document of PostgreSQL[2] also lacks the description about 
> openssl-devel,
> kerberos-devel, etc. (except to readline-devl). However, it would be 
> convenient
> for users who want to install Pgpool-II from source code if the required 
> packages
> for installation are described in the document explicitly.
> 
> [2] https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/install-requirements.html
> 
> Is it not worth to consider this?
> 
> 
> BTW, the Pgpool-II doc[2] says:
> 
> --with-memcached=path
> Pgpool-II binaries will use memcached for in memory query cache. You have 
> to install libmemcached. 
> 
> , but maybe libmemcached-devel is correct instead of libmemcached?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- 
> Yugo Nagata 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Yugo Nagata 
> 


-- 
Yugo Nagata 



Improvement of installation document

2019-03-26 Thread Yugo Nagata
Hi,

One of our clients suggested that the installation document[1] lacks description
about requriements of installing *-devel packages. For example, 
postgresqlxx-devel
is required for using --with-pgsql, and openssl-devel for --with-openssl, and 
so on,
but these are not documented.

[1] http://www.pgpool.net/docs/pgpool-II-3.7.4/en/html/install-pgpool.html

I know the document of PostgreSQL[2] also lacks the description about 
openssl-devel,
kerberos-devel, etc. (except to readline-devl). However, it would be convenient
for users who want to install Pgpool-II from source code if the required 
packages
for installation are described in the document explicitly.

[2] https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/install-requirements.html

Is it not worth to consider this?


BTW, the Pgpool-II doc[2] says:

--with-memcached=path
Pgpool-II binaries will use memcached for in memory query cache. You have 
to install libmemcached. 

, but maybe libmemcached-devel is correct instead of libmemcached?

Regards,

-- 
Yugo Nagata 


-- 
Yugo Nagata