Re: Documentaion fix.

2018-08-15 Thread Michael Paquier
On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 02:35:56PM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> I had failed to push in the 9.4 branch.  Done now.

Thanks Alvaro for working on the details.  I would not have bothered
much myself as the set of columns was correct in 9.4, but for
consistency's sake that makes sense.
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Re: Documentaion fix.

2018-08-15 Thread Alvaro Herrera
On 2018-Aug-03, Alvaro Herrera wrote:

> On 2018-Aug-03, Kyotaro HORIGUCHI wrote:
> 
> > That said, I don't object to reduce the columns. Please find the
> > attached.
> 
> Thanks, pushed.

I had failed to push in the 9.4 branch.  Done now.

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Re: Documentaion fix.

2018-08-10 Thread Michael Paquier
On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 03:58:09PM -0400, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> Yeah.  I suggest never changing subject lines, because Gmail has the
> nasty (mis-)feature of making such a response into a completely new
> thread.  I don't know if Google paid mail service behaves in the same
> way.

If one uses Gmail with another client like mutt, then those don't get
broken.  I don't know about Thunderbird which I believe people use a
lot.

> So if you change Subject, please do include a URL to the previous thread
> if necessary, for the benefit of people reading on Gmail.

+1.

> I wouldn't worry about this for any other individual email provider, but
> Gmail is by far the largest fraction of subscribers :-(  I guess this
> shows just how much better Google made webmail systems than what existed
> at the time.

If something is free, you are the product, still I have to admit that
Gmail is not especially bad.
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Re: Documentaion fix.

2018-08-09 Thread Alvaro Herrera
On 2018-Aug-09, Kyotaro HORIGUCHI wrote:

> # I noticed that the subject has typo..

Yeah.  I suggest never changing subject lines, because Gmail has the
nasty (mis-)feature of making such a response into a completely new
thread.  I don't know if Google paid mail service behaves in the same
way.

So if you change Subject, please do include a URL to the previous thread
if necessary, for the benefit of people reading on Gmail.  

I wouldn't worry about this for any other individual email provider, but
Gmail is by far the largest fraction of subscribers :-(  I guess this
shows just how much better Google made webmail systems than what existed
at the time.

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Re: Documentaion fix.

2018-08-08 Thread Kyotaro HORIGUCHI
At Sat, 4 Aug 2018 05:58:52 +0900, Michael Paquier  wrote 
in <20180803205852.gb20...@paquier.xyz>
> On Fri, Aug 03, 2018 at 04:37:05PM -0400, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> > On 2018-Aug-03, Kyotaro HORIGUCHI wrote: 
> >> That said, I don't object to reduce the columns. Please find the
> >> attached.
> > 
> > Thanks, pushed.
> 
> Thanks Alvaro for keeping the three-column version, I was going to look
> at the proposed patch and push as you did, until I noticed that you
> showed up :)

Thanks.

# I noticed that the subject has typo..

regards.

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Re: Documentaion fix.

2018-08-03 Thread Michael Paquier
On Fri, Aug 03, 2018 at 04:37:05PM -0400, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> On 2018-Aug-03, Kyotaro HORIGUCHI wrote: 
>> That said, I don't object to reduce the columns. Please find the
>> attached.
> 
> Thanks, pushed.

Thanks Alvaro for keeping the three-column version, I was going to look
at the proposed patch and push as you did, until I noticed that you
showed up :)
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Re: Documentaion fix.

2018-08-03 Thread Kyotaro HORIGUCHI
At Fri, 3 Aug 2018 04:13:56 +0900, Michael Paquier  wrote 
in <20180802191356.gb2...@paquier.xyz>
> On Wed, Aug 01, 2018 at 01:04:37PM +0900, Kyotaro HORIGUCHI wrote:
> > The query and the result with four columns fit the current width.
> 
> Just wondering, what is your reason behind the addition of restart_lsn?
> This part of the documentation focuses on slot creation, so slot_name,
> slot_type and active would be representative enough, no?

The first reason was the example looks having a bit too many
space around only with three other columns.

A more serious reason is that I wanted to show a slot with what
properties is created in the example and I thought that
restart_lsn and temporary are significant. Howerver restart_lsn
is always a part of the pg_replication_slots, we don't have
"temprary" before 10. Addition to that, adding it makes the
SELECT line stick out of the width.

That said, I don't object to reduce the columns. Please find the
attached.

regards.

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>From 7e750c902f594b0a00c1f579518a74947a755d05 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Kyotaro Horiguchi 
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 11:50:03 +0900
Subject: [PATCH] Documentation fix of "Log-Shipping Standy Servers" for
 master.

The example output of pg_replication_slot is wrong. Correct and make
the output stable by explicitly specifying a part of the all columns
in pg_replication_slots.
---
 doc/src/sgml/high-availability.sgml | 10 ++
 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)

diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/high-availability.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/high-availability.sgml
index 934eb9052d..3c5f3fc6a9 100644
--- a/doc/src/sgml/high-availability.sgml
+++ b/doc/src/sgml/high-availability.sgml
@@ -966,10 +966,12 @@ postgres=# SELECT * FROM pg_create_physical_replication_slot('node_a_slot');
 -+-
  node_a_slot |
 
-postgres=# SELECT * FROM pg_replication_slots;
-  slot_name  | slot_type | datoid | database | active | xmin | restart_lsn | confirmed_flush_lsn
--+---++--++--+-+-
- node_a_slot | physical  ||  | f  |  | |
+postgres=# SELECT slot_name, slot_type, active FROM pg_replication_slots;
+  slot_name  | slot_type | active 
+-+---+
+ node_a_slot | physical  | f
+(1 row)
+
 (1 row)
 
  To configure the standby to use this slot, primary_slot_name
-- 
2.16.3

>From 0192ad0d7c674eff11285f68ea2128ad50ecef10 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Kyotaro Horiguchi 
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 12:41:03 +0900
Subject: [PATCH] Documentation fix of "Log-Shipping Standy Servers" for PG95.

The example output of pg_replication_slot is wrong. Correct and make
the output stable by explicitly specifying a part of the all columns
in pg_replication_slots.
---
 doc/src/sgml/high-availability.sgml | 8 
 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)

diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/high-availability.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/high-availability.sgml
index 35daf0103a..3f33c39bd2 100644
--- a/doc/src/sgml/high-availability.sgml
+++ b/doc/src/sgml/high-availability.sgml
@@ -931,10 +931,10 @@ postgres=# SELECT * FROM pg_create_physical_replication_slot('node_a_slot');
 -+---
  node_a_slot |
 
-postgres=# SELECT * FROM pg_replication_slots;
-  slot_name  | slot_type | datoid | database | active | xmin | restart_lsn
--+---++--++--+-
- node_a_slot | physical  ||  | f  |  |
+postgres=# SELECT slot_name, slot_type, active FROM pg_replication_slots;
+  slot_name  | slot_type | active 
+-+---+
+ node_a_slot | physical  | f
 (1 row)
 
  To configure the standby to use this slot, primary_slot_name
-- 
2.16.3



Re: Documentaion fix.

2018-08-02 Thread Michael Paquier
On Wed, Aug 01, 2018 at 01:04:37PM +0900, Kyotaro HORIGUCHI wrote:
> The query and the result with four columns fit the current width.

Just wondering, what is your reason behind the addition of restart_lsn?
This part of the documentation focuses on slot creation, so slot_name,
slot_type and active would be representative enough, no?
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Re: Documentaion fix.

2018-07-31 Thread Kyotaro HORIGUCHI
At Wed, 1 Aug 2018 02:47:32 +0900, Michael Paquier  wrote 
in <20180731174732.gd2...@paquier.xyz>
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 10:59:14AM -0400, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> > How about pasting it like this?
> > 
> > alvherre=# select * from pg_replication_slots \gx
> > ─[ RECORD 1 ]───┬
> > slot_name   │ node_a_slot
> > plugin  │ 
> > slot_type   │ physical
> > datoid  │ 
> > database│ 
> > temporary   │ f
> > active  │ f
> > active_pid  │ 
> > xmin│ 
> > catalog_xmin│ 
> > restart_lsn │ 
> > confirmed_flush_lsn │ 
> 
> Each time this catalog is changed, this would become incorrect.  My
> suggestion would be to change the query to that and call it a day:
> SELECT slot_name, slot_type, active FROM pg_replication_slots;

Yeah, I'm also concerned about the unstability. I didn't came up
with a list of columns that makes sense at that time but I
rethought on that.

> slot_name   │ required
> plugin  │ 
> slot_type   │ required
> datoid  │ 
> database│ 
> temporary   │ 
> active  │ required?
> active_pid  │ 
> xmin│ 
> catalog_xmin│ 
> restart_lsn │ better to be shown?
> confirmed_flush_lsn │ 

The query and the result with four columns fit the current width.

regards.

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>From 2b5788b3f1ecf4ebd31cf36eecdd4619cf3f394e Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Kyotaro Horiguchi 
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 12:41:03 +0900
Subject: [PATCH] Documentation fix of "Log-Shipping Standy Servers" for PG95.

The example output of pg_replication_slot is wrong. Correct and make
the output stable by explicitly specifying a part of the all columns
in pg_replication_slots.
---
 doc/src/sgml/high-availability.sgml | 8 
 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)

diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/high-availability.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/high-availability.sgml
index 35daf0103a..ae831192d0 100644
--- a/doc/src/sgml/high-availability.sgml
+++ b/doc/src/sgml/high-availability.sgml
@@ -931,10 +931,10 @@ postgres=# SELECT * FROM pg_create_physical_replication_slot('node_a_slot');
 -+---
  node_a_slot |
 
-postgres=# SELECT * FROM pg_replication_slots;
-  slot_name  | slot_type | datoid | database | active | xmin | restart_lsn
--+---++--++--+-
- node_a_slot | physical  ||  | f  |  |
+postgres=# SELECT slot_name, slot_type, active, restart_lsn FROM pg_replication_slots;
+  slot_name  | slot_type | active | restart_lsn 
+-+---++-
+ node_a_slot | physical  | f  | 
 (1 row)
 
  To configure the standby to use this slot, primary_slot_name
-- 
2.16.3

>From 4367cdea3d6ac19ef9c6ec1545fbc2329dda47bb Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Kyotaro Horiguchi 
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 11:50:03 +0900
Subject: [PATCH] Documentation fix of "Log-Shipping Standy Servers" for
 master.

The example output of pg_replication_slot is wrong. Correct and make
the output stable by explicitly specifying a part of the all columns
in pg_replication_slots.
---
 doc/src/sgml/high-availability.sgml | 8 
 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)

diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/high-availability.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/high-availability.sgml
index 934eb9052d..39cada1278 100644
--- a/doc/src/sgml/high-availability.sgml
+++ b/doc/src/sgml/high-availability.sgml
@@ -966,10 +966,10 @@ postgres=# SELECT * FROM pg_create_physical_replication_slot('node_a_slot');
 -+-
  node_a_slot |
 
-postgres=# SELECT * FROM pg_replication_slots;
-  slot_name  | slot_type | datoid | database | active | xmin | restart_lsn | confirmed_flush_lsn
--+---++--++--+-+-
- node_a_slot | physical  ||  | f  |  | |
+postgres=# SELECT slot_name, slot_type, active, restart_lsn FROM pg_replication_slots;
+  slot_name  | slot_type | active | restart_lsn 
+-+---++-
+ node_a_slot | physical  | f  | 
 (1 row)
 
  To configure the standby to use this slot, primary_slot_name
-- 
2.16.3



Re: Documentaion fix.

2018-07-31 Thread Michael Paquier
On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 10:59:14AM -0400, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> How about pasting it like this?
> 
> alvherre=# select * from pg_replication_slots \gx
> ─[ RECORD 1 ]───┬
> slot_name   │ node_a_slot
> plugin  │ 
> slot_type   │ physical
> datoid  │ 
> database│ 
> temporary   │ f
> active  │ f
> active_pid  │ 
> xmin│ 
> catalog_xmin│ 
> restart_lsn │ 
> confirmed_flush_lsn │ 

Each time this catalog is changed, this would become incorrect.  My
suggestion would be to change the query to that and call it a day:
SELECT slot_name, slot_type, active FROM pg_replication_slots;
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Re: Documentaion fix.

2018-07-31 Thread Alvaro Herrera
On 2018-Jul-31, Kyotaro HORIGUCHI wrote:

> But, just fixing it makes the line seemingly a bit too long..

How about pasting it like this?

alvherre=# select * from pg_replication_slots \gx
─[ RECORD 1 ]───┬
slot_name   │ node_a_slot
plugin  │ 
slot_type   │ physical
datoid  │ 
database│ 
temporary   │ f
active  │ f
active_pid  │ 
xmin│ 
catalog_xmin│ 
restart_lsn │ 
confirmed_flush_lsn │ 

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