Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] Wild idea: 9.0?

2007-04-24 Thread Robert Treat
On Tuesday 24 April 2007 01:32, Magnus Hagander wrote:
   That would be just because you don't know the numbering scheme.  8.2 to
   8.3 is considered major in these parts.  See
   http://www.postgresql.org/support/versioning
 
  Is that official policy? I don't see any mention of it in the docs.

 Are you somehow suggesting that our website isn't official? Where did you
 get that idea?


Website information can often be of a transient nature, with no history of 
changes or even the existence of information. Documentation is a little more 
permanent, and at least offers a record of agreement at a specific point in 
time. 

 As for inclusion in the docs I beleive we're still waiting for your
 patch...


We'll see  :-)

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Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] Wild idea: 9.0?

2007-04-24 Thread Magnus Hagander
On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 09:18:54AM -0400, Robert Treat wrote:
 On Tuesday 24 April 2007 01:32, Magnus Hagander wrote:
That would be just because you don't know the numbering scheme.  8.2 to
8.3 is considered major in these parts.  See
http://www.postgresql.org/support/versioning
  
   Is that official policy? I don't see any mention of it in the docs.
 
  Are you somehow suggesting that our website isn't official? Where did you
  get that idea?
 
 
 Website information can often be of a transient nature, with no history of 
 changes or even the existence of information. Documentation is a little more 
 permanent, and at least offers a record of agreement at a specific point in 
 time. 

Well, there is cvs history. But I see your point. Doesn't make it any less
official, though, just transient.

//Magnus


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Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] Wild idea: 9.0?

2007-04-24 Thread Andrew Dunstan

Magnus Hagander wrote:

On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 09:18:54AM -0400, Robert Treat wrote:
  

On Tuesday 24 April 2007 01:32, Magnus Hagander wrote:


That would be just because you don't know the numbering scheme.  8.2 to
8.3 is considered major in these parts.  See
http://www.postgresql.org/support/versioning
  

Is that official policy? I don't see any mention of it in the docs.


Are you somehow suggesting that our website isn't official? Where did you
get that idea?

  
Website information can often be of a transient nature, with no history of 
changes or even the existence of information. Documentation is a little more 
permanent, and at least offers a record of agreement at a specific point in 
time. 



Well, there is cvs history. But I see your point. Doesn't make it any less
official, though, just transient.

  


There is plenty of valid information that is not in the docs. One might 
just as well ask where did the policy come from that the docs are the 
only authoritative source of information on policy. ;-)


cheers

andrew

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Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] Wild idea: 9.0?

2007-04-23 Thread usleepless

Josh, List,

On 4/23/07, Josh Berkus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hackers,

I was thinking about the upcoming release on my 32-hour epic airplane ordeal,
and realizing that it changes PostgreSQL in a lot of ways.  Between major
improvements to performance, major changes to the file format, and changes to
implicit conversions breaking backwards compatibility, our new ability to
more-or-less stick to deadlines ...

... should this be 9.0 instead of 8.3?

Seems like it'd be both an annoucement of how far we've come, as well as a
warning to users that the 8.2--9.0 upgrade could be painful.  And that some
of our more radical features in the new version could have some rough edges.


as a casual user, only subscribed to this list, i think you should
really consider it.

a bunch of problems due toa  minor-release-number upgrade would come
as a suprise.

a major-release-number- upgrade i would investigate more thorough.

regards,

usleep

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Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] Wild idea: 9.0?

2007-04-23 Thread Alvaro Herrera
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
 Josh, List,
 
 On 4/23/07, Josh Berkus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was thinking about the upcoming release on my 32-hour epic airplane 
 ordeal,
 and realizing that it changes PostgreSQL in a lot of ways.  Between major
 improvements to performance, major changes to the file format, and changes 
 to
 implicit conversions breaking backwards compatibility, our new ability to
 more-or-less stick to deadlines ...
 
 ... should this be 9.0 instead of 8.3?

I'm with Tom on this.  I don't think we've changed much in the way of
user visible behavior.


 Seems like it'd be both an annoucement of how far we've come, as well as a
 warning to users that the 8.2--9.0 upgrade could be painful.  And that 
 some of our more radical features in the new version could have some
 rough edges.
 
 as a casual user, only subscribed to this list, i think you should
 really consider it.
 
 a bunch of problems due toa  minor-release-number upgrade would come
 as a suprise.

That would be just because you don't know the numbering scheme.  8.2 to
8.3 is considered major in these parts.  See 
http://www.postgresql.org/support/versioning

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Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] Wild idea: 9.0?

2007-04-23 Thread Robert Treat
On Monday 23 April 2007 18:17, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
 That would be just because you don't know the numbering scheme.  8.2 to
 8.3 is considered major in these parts.  See
 http://www.postgresql.org/support/versioning

Is that official policy? I don't see any mention of it in the docs.

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Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] Wild idea: 9.0?

2007-04-23 Thread Magnus Hagander
  That would be just because you don't know the numbering scheme.  8.2 to
  8.3 is considered major in these parts.  See
  http://www.postgresql.org/support/versioning
 
 Is that official policy? I don't see any mention of it in the docs.

Are you somehow suggesting that our website isn't official? Where did you get 
that idea?

As for inclusion in the docs I beleive we're still waiting for your patch...

/Magnus


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