Re: [HACKERS] Fwd: Successful post to pgsql-hackers
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 5:01 AM, Alvaro Herrera alvhe...@2ndquadrant.com wrote: Magnus Hagander escribió: On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 3:25 AM, Alvaro Herrera alvhe...@2ndquadrant.com wrote: I changed the defaults for new subscribers, and also the flags values for all existing subscribers, note. For *all* existing subscribers, or those that had not changed their defaults? And did you change just those flags, or for all flags? For all existing subscribers, I changed the ackpost (to off), ackreject (to on), ackstall (to on) flags. Other flags were untouched. There's no way to distinguish unchanged from set to the same as the default in mj2, I'm afraid. Yeah, it seems you at least broke some cronjobs that relied on the old default... That said, I think that was pretty darn unfriendly to those who potentially changed their own configuration. E.g. all those who potentially set their ackpost to on intentionally years ago, have now lost that one... But it's clearly too late to do anything about that one now. -- Magnus Hagander Me: http://www.hagander.net/ Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/ -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] Fwd: Successful post to pgsql-hackers
Magnus Hagander escribió: On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 5:01 AM, Alvaro Herrera alvhe...@2ndquadrant.com wrote: Magnus Hagander escribió: On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 3:25 AM, Alvaro Herrera alvhe...@2ndquadrant.com wrote: I changed the defaults for new subscribers, and also the flags values for all existing subscribers, note. For *all* existing subscribers, or those that had not changed their defaults? And did you change just those flags, or for all flags? For all existing subscribers, I changed the ackpost (to off), ackreject (to on), ackstall (to on) flags. Other flags were untouched. There's no way to distinguish unchanged from set to the same as the default in mj2, I'm afraid. Yeah, it seems you at least broke some cronjobs that relied on the old default... Huh? We had cronjobs that relied on ackpost being set? Please elaborate. That said, I think that was pretty darn unfriendly to those who potentially changed their own configuration. E.g. all those who potentially set their ackpost to on intentionally years ago, have now lost that one... But it's clearly too late to do anything about that one now. Yes, that true. Sorry about that. As I said, there was no way to figure that out. -- Álvaro Herrerahttp://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training Services -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] Fwd: Successful post to pgsql-hackers
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Alvaro Herrera alvhe...@2ndquadrant.com wrote: Magnus Hagander escribió: On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 5:01 AM, Alvaro Herrera alvhe...@2ndquadrant.com wrote: Magnus Hagander escribió: On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 3:25 AM, Alvaro Herrera alvhe...@2ndquadrant.com wrote: I changed the defaults for new subscribers, and also the flags values for all existing subscribers, note. For *all* existing subscribers, or those that had not changed their defaults? And did you change just those flags, or for all flags? For all existing subscribers, I changed the ackpost (to off), ackreject (to on), ackstall (to on) flags. Other flags were untouched. There's no way to distinguish unchanged from set to the same as the default in mj2, I'm afraid. Yeah, it seems you at least broke some cronjobs that relied on the old default... Huh? We had cronjobs that relied on ackpost being set? Please elaborate. Nah, cronjobs that synchronized the flags for certain subscribers. Didn't you receive a copy of the error message? :) It didn't actually beak it, but it's spewing warnings. -- Magnus Hagander Me: http://www.hagander.net/ Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/ -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] Fwd: Successful post to pgsql-hackers
Magnus Hagander mag...@hagander.net writes: That said, I think that was pretty darn unfriendly to those who potentially changed their own configuration. E.g. all those who potentially set their ackpost to on intentionally years ago, have now lost that one... But it's clearly too late to do anything about that one now. The new defaults are clearly saner. But maybe it's worth a post on pgsql-announce to let people know this was done? If there is anybody out there who's expecting ackpost, that would cue them to fix it. regards, tom lane -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] Fwd: Successful post to pgsql-hackers
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 3:25 AM, Alvaro Herrera alvhe...@2ndquadrant.com wrote: Magnus Hagander escribió: On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Peter Geoghegan peter.geoghega...@gmail.com wrote: On 9 February 2013 15:24, Magnus Hagander mag...@hagander.net wrote: It's in your personal majordomo settings. I don't think it's related to that at all, but it's a flag you set on your subscription, so perhaps you set it by mistake. Then I must have set it by mistake too, when I recently changed e-mail addresses. Hmm. I wonder if Alvaro may have accidentally switched the default, if it happened to more than one person. Alvaro, can you check? I hadn't touched this, but Andres Freund had already complained about this before. I just checked and yes, it seems that the flag to send a confirmation for each post is set. I have reset it. I also took the opportunity to set the flags to send confirmation emails when a posting is rejected or stalled for moderation. We discussed this previously (Pavel Stehule complained about it). I changed the defaults for new subscribers, and also the flags values for all existing subscribers, note. For *all* existing subscribers, or those that had not changed their defaults? And did you change just those flags, or for all flags? -- Magnus Hagander Me: http://www.hagander.net/ Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/ -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] Fwd: Successful post to pgsql-hackers
On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Euler Taveira eu...@timbira.com wrote: On 09-02-2013 13:45, Gurjeet Singh wrote: BTW, I hope I understand what selfcopy is: send a copy to yourself. Why would that be turned on by default? If you want to reply to yourself... Wouldn't I be using the copy in my sent folder to do that? I guess it is a non-issue for me since my mail provider (GMail) does not show me the mail I sent to myself as a duplicate; it at least seems that way. -- Gurjeet Singh http://gurjeet.singh.im/
Re: [HACKERS] Fwd: Successful post to pgsql-hackers
Magnus Hagander escribió: On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 3:25 AM, Alvaro Herrera alvhe...@2ndquadrant.com wrote: I changed the defaults for new subscribers, and also the flags values for all existing subscribers, note. For *all* existing subscribers, or those that had not changed their defaults? And did you change just those flags, or for all flags? For all existing subscribers, I changed the ackpost (to off), ackreject (to on), ackstall (to on) flags. Other flags were untouched. There's no way to distinguish unchanged from set to the same as the default in mj2, I'm afraid. -- Álvaro Herrerahttp://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training Services -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
[HACKERS] Fwd: Successful post to pgsql-hackers
Recently I have started getting these confirmations for every email I send to the mailing lists. I think it's related to the fact that I recently switched to using a new email address. How can I turn these notifications off? -- Forwarded message -- From: pgsql-hackers-ow...@postgresql.org Date: Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 10:13 AM Subject: Successful post to pgsql-hackers To: Gurjeet Singh gurj...@singh.im Your message to the pgsql-hackers list, posted on Sat, 9 Feb 2013 10:11:05 -0500 with subject Re: pg_prewarm is currently being delivered. -- Gurjeet Singh http://gurjeet.singh.im/
Re: [HACKERS] Fwd: Successful post to pgsql-hackers
It's in your personal majordomo settings. I don't think it's related to that at all, but it's a flag you set on your subscription, so perhaps you set it by mistake. You shold be able to set it from https://mail.postgresql.org. The setting you're looking for is ackpost, and you'll want to turn it off. //Magnus On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Gurjeet Singh gurj...@singh.im wrote: Recently I have started getting these confirmations for every email I send to the mailing lists. I think it's related to the fact that I recently switched to using a new email address. How can I turn these notifications off? -- Forwarded message -- From: pgsql-hackers-ow...@postgresql.org Date: Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 10:13 AM Subject: Successful post to pgsql-hackers To: Gurjeet Singh gurj...@singh.im Your message to the pgsql-hackers list, posted on Sat, 9 Feb 2013 10:11:05 -0500 with subject Re: pg_prewarm is currently being delivered. -- Gurjeet Singh http://gurjeet.singh.im/ -- Magnus Hagander Me: http://www.hagander.net/ Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/ -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] Fwd: Successful post to pgsql-hackers
On 9 February 2013 15:24, Magnus Hagander mag...@hagander.net wrote: It's in your personal majordomo settings. I don't think it's related to that at all, but it's a flag you set on your subscription, so perhaps you set it by mistake. Then I must have set it by mistake too, when I recently changed e-mail addresses. -- Regards, Peter Geoghegan -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] Fwd: Successful post to pgsql-hackers
On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Peter Geoghegan peter.geoghega...@gmail.com wrote: On 9 February 2013 15:24, Magnus Hagander mag...@hagander.net wrote: It's in your personal majordomo settings. I don't think it's related to that at all, but it's a flag you set on your subscription, so perhaps you set it by mistake. Then I must have set it by mistake too, when I recently changed e-mail addresses. Hmm. I wonder if Alvaro may have accidentally switched the default, if it happened to more than one person. Alvaro, can you check? -- Magnus Hagander Me: http://www.hagander.net/ Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/ -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] Fwd: Successful post to pgsql-hackers
I tried the lists page and disabled the 'selfcopy' since the 'ackpot' was kinda hidden under the mailing list names. I have updated the settings again to disable ackpost, and enable the selfcopy. This email will be test if that worked. BTW, I hope I understand what selfcopy is: send a copy to yourself. Why would that be turned on by default? On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Magnus Hagander mag...@hagander.netwrote: It's in your personal majordomo settings. I don't think it's related to that at all, but it's a flag you set on your subscription, so perhaps you set it by mistake. You shold be able to set it from https://mail.postgresql.org. The setting you're looking for is ackpost, and you'll want to turn it off. //Magnus On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Gurjeet Singh gurj...@singh.im wrote: Recently I have started getting these confirmations for every email I send to the mailing lists. I think it's related to the fact that I recently switched to using a new email address. How can I turn these notifications off? -- Forwarded message -- From: pgsql-hackers-ow...@postgresql.org Date: Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 10:13 AM Subject: Successful post to pgsql-hackers To: Gurjeet Singh gurj...@singh.im Your message to the pgsql-hackers list, posted on Sat, 9 Feb 2013 10:11:05 -0500 with subject Re: pg_prewarm is currently being delivered. -- Gurjeet Singh http://gurjeet.singh.im/ -- Magnus Hagander Me: http://www.hagander.net/ Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/ -- Gurjeet Singh http://gurjeet.singh.im/
Re: [HACKERS] Fwd: Successful post to pgsql-hackers
On 09-02-2013 13:45, Gurjeet Singh wrote: BTW, I hope I understand what selfcopy is: send a copy to yourself. Why would that be turned on by default? If you want to reply to yourself... -- Euler Taveira de Oliveira - Timbira http://www.timbira.com.br/ PostgreSQL: Consultoria, Desenvolvimento, Suporte 24x7 e Treinamento -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] Fwd: Successful post to pgsql-hackers
Magnus Hagander escribió: On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Peter Geoghegan peter.geoghega...@gmail.com wrote: On 9 February 2013 15:24, Magnus Hagander mag...@hagander.net wrote: It's in your personal majordomo settings. I don't think it's related to that at all, but it's a flag you set on your subscription, so perhaps you set it by mistake. Then I must have set it by mistake too, when I recently changed e-mail addresses. Hmm. I wonder if Alvaro may have accidentally switched the default, if it happened to more than one person. Alvaro, can you check? I hadn't touched this, but Andres Freund had already complained about this before. I just checked and yes, it seems that the flag to send a confirmation for each post is set. I have reset it. I also took the opportunity to set the flags to send confirmation emails when a posting is rejected or stalled for moderation. We discussed this previously (Pavel Stehule complained about it). I changed the defaults for new subscribers, and also the flags values for all existing subscribers, note. -- Álvaro Herrerahttp://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training Services -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
