[HACKERS] New version of contrib-intarray is ready !

2001-03-19 Thread Oleg Bartunov

Hi,

New version of contrib-intarray is available from
http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/postgres/gist/code/7.1/contrib-intarray.tar.gz

From README.intarray:

March 19, 2001
   1. Added support for toastable keys
   2. Improved split algorithm for intbig (selection speedup is about 30%)

Regards,
Oleg

On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Oleg Bartunov wrote:

 I just returned from vacation and identified the problem.
 We'll fix it.

   Regards,
   Oleg
 On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Tom Lane wrote:

  I wrote:
   I did this, also reinstalled the include-file changes I had made, and
   then spent several fruitless hours trying to find why the "intbig" index
   operators fail selftest here (on HP-PA).  I suppose it's a portability
   problem, since presumably they pass for Oleg ... but I don't see it.
 
  Further experimentation shows that intbig fails selftest on ALL
  platforms under 7.1.  I see the problem: the intarray operators are
  mostly unprepared to cope with TOASTed input arrays.  In particular,
  _intbig_union() generates an erroneous "null" result for a compressed
  input array, leading to completely incorrect GiST index trees in the
  self-test example.
 
  A somewhat-related error in this code is that some routines feel free
  to scribble on their input.  This is tres uncool, because they may be
  scribbling on disk buffers.  Example:
 
 
  regression=# create table foo(f1 int4[]);
  CREATE
  regression=# insert into foo values ('{10,1,2,1,4}');
  INSERT 150265 1
  regression=# select * from foo;
f1
  --
   {10,1,2,1,4}
  (1 row)
 
  regression=# select * from foo where f1  '{4}';
f1
  --
   {1,1,2,4,10}
  (1 row)
 
  regression=# select * from foo;
f1
  --
   {1,1,2,4,10}
  (1 row)
 
 
  And you thought SELECT was a read-only operation ...
 
  I do not have time to work on this stuff now, but as it stands the
  contrib/intarray code is unusable in 7.1.  Unless Oleg can find the
  time to fix these issues before release, I will recommend that we
  not ship contrib/intarray in 7.1.
 
  regards, tom lane
 
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Re: [HACKERS] new version of contrib-intarray

2001-03-19 Thread Peter Eisentraut

Bruce Momjian writes:

 Seems I am no longer capable of understanding the affects of such
 changes as this:

   ! override CPPFLAGS := -I$(srcdir) $(CPPFLAGS) -DPGSQL71

   ! override CPPFLAGS += -I$(srcdir) -DPGSQL71

 Having $(srcdir) before $(CPPFLAGS) must be significant.

The CVS log message says:

: Make sure -L and -I's for our source tree are always before system include
: or library directories on the command line.

That's all this does.

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Re: [HACKERS] new version of contrib-intarray

2001-03-19 Thread Bruce Momjian

Sorry, I have again messed up this Makefile, and I am glad Tom has put
things back.

Seems I am no longer capable of understanding the affects of such
changes as this:

! override CPPFLAGS := -I$(srcdir) $(CPPFLAGS) -DPGSQL71

! override CPPFLAGS += -I$(srcdir) -DPGSQL71

Having $(srcdir) before $(CPPFLAGS) must be significant.

I am going to make a proposal that we partition off certain areas to be
handled by certain people so I don't mess things up again.  Look for my
email in a few minutes.



 Bruce Momjian writes:
 
  I see change of += in CFLAGS (harmless),
 
 Not.
 
  movement of #include
  postgres.h, and removal of // comments, which don't appear anymore in
  the code.
 
 I only saw that the Makefile is back to how it looked at rev 1.1 before I
 did some work on it.  AFAICT the Makefile should be reverted back to the
 previous revision, since the code change does not require any changes to
 the Makefile.
 
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Re: [HACKERS] new version of contrib-intarray

2001-03-19 Thread Bruce Momjian

 Bruce Momjian writes:
 
  Seems I am no longer capable of understanding the affects of such
  changes as this:
 
  ! override CPPFLAGS := -I$(srcdir) $(CPPFLAGS) -DPGSQL71
 
  ! override CPPFLAGS += -I$(srcdir) -DPGSQL71
 
  Having $(srcdir) before $(CPPFLAGS) must be significant.
 
 The CVS log message says:
 
 : Make sure -L and -I's for our source tree are always before system include
 : or library directories on the command line.
 
 That's all this does.

Makes sense.  See my new email about patches.  I think I need to rely
more on you and others to help me evaluate these changes.  We have much
more expertice in the group than I can hope to comprehend.

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Re: [HACKERS] new version of contrib-intarray

2001-03-18 Thread Peter Eisentraut

Bruce Momjian writes:

 I see change of += in CFLAGS (harmless),

Not.

 movement of #include
 postgres.h, and removal of // comments, which don't appear anymore in
 the code.

I only saw that the Makefile is back to how it looked at rev 1.1 before I
did some work on it.  AFAICT the Makefile should be reverted back to the
previous revision, since the code change does not require any changes to
the Makefile.

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Re: [HACKERS] new version of contrib-intarray

2001-03-18 Thread Tom Lane

Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I only saw that the Makefile is back to how it looked at rev 1.1 before I
 did some work on it.  AFAICT the Makefile should be reverted back to the
 previous revision, since the code change does not require any changes to
 the Makefile.

I did this, also reinstalled the include-file changes I had made, and
then spent several fruitless hours trying to find why the "intbig" index
operators fail selftest here (on HP-PA).  I suppose it's a portability
problem, since presumably they pass for Oleg ... but I don't see it.

Who else finds that the new contrib/intarray code passes or fails its
selftest, and on what platforms?

regards, tom lane

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Re: [HACKERS] new version of contrib-intarray

2001-03-18 Thread Tom Lane

I wrote:
 I did this, also reinstalled the include-file changes I had made, and
 then spent several fruitless hours trying to find why the "intbig" index
 operators fail selftest here (on HP-PA).  I suppose it's a portability
 problem, since presumably they pass for Oleg ... but I don't see it.

Further experimentation shows that intbig fails selftest on ALL
platforms under 7.1.  I see the problem: the intarray operators are
mostly unprepared to cope with TOASTed input arrays.  In particular,
_intbig_union() generates an erroneous "null" result for a compressed
input array, leading to completely incorrect GiST index trees in the
self-test example.

A somewhat-related error in this code is that some routines feel free
to scribble on their input.  This is tres uncool, because they may be
scribbling on disk buffers.  Example:


regression=# create table foo(f1 int4[]);
CREATE
regression=# insert into foo values ('{10,1,2,1,4}');
INSERT 150265 1
regression=# select * from foo;
  f1  
--
 {10,1,2,1,4}
(1 row)

regression=# select * from foo where f1  '{4}';
  f1  
--
 {1,1,2,4,10}
(1 row)

regression=# select * from foo;
  f1  
--
 {1,1,2,4,10}
(1 row)


And you thought SELECT was a read-only operation ...

I do not have time to work on this stuff now, but as it stands the
contrib/intarray code is unusable in 7.1.  Unless Oleg can find the
time to fix these issues before release, I will recommend that we
not ship contrib/intarray in 7.1.

regards, tom lane

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Re: [HACKERS] new version of contrib-intarray

2001-03-18 Thread Oleg Bartunov

I just returned from vacation and identified the problem.
We'll fix it.

Regards,
Oleg
On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Tom Lane wrote:

 I wrote:
  I did this, also reinstalled the include-file changes I had made, and
  then spent several fruitless hours trying to find why the "intbig" index
  operators fail selftest here (on HP-PA).  I suppose it's a portability
  problem, since presumably they pass for Oleg ... but I don't see it.

 Further experimentation shows that intbig fails selftest on ALL
 platforms under 7.1.  I see the problem: the intarray operators are
 mostly unprepared to cope with TOASTed input arrays.  In particular,
 _intbig_union() generates an erroneous "null" result for a compressed
 input array, leading to completely incorrect GiST index trees in the
 self-test example.

 A somewhat-related error in this code is that some routines feel free
 to scribble on their input.  This is tres uncool, because they may be
 scribbling on disk buffers.  Example:


 regression=# create table foo(f1 int4[]);
 CREATE
 regression=# insert into foo values ('{10,1,2,1,4}');
 INSERT 150265 1
 regression=# select * from foo;
   f1
 --
  {10,1,2,1,4}
 (1 row)

 regression=# select * from foo where f1  '{4}';
   f1
 --
  {1,1,2,4,10}
 (1 row)

 regression=# select * from foo;
   f1
 --
  {1,1,2,4,10}
 (1 row)


 And you thought SELECT was a read-only operation ...

 I do not have time to work on this stuff now, but as it stands the
 contrib/intarray code is unusable in 7.1.  Unless Oleg can find the
 time to fix these issues before release, I will recommend that we
 not ship contrib/intarray in 7.1.

   regards, tom lane

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Re: [HACKERS] new version of contrib-intarray

2001-03-17 Thread Bruce Momjian

Seems we have an older version in CVS.  I will update it now.  I assume
/contrib is available for changes up until release, as usual.

 Mark,
 
 we prepared new version of contrib-intarray -
 index support for 1-D integer arrays using GiST.
 
 Changes:
 
 
 -  Improved regression test
 -  Current implementation provides index support for one-dimensional
array of int4's - gist__int_ops, suitable for small and medium size
of arrays, and gist__intbig_ops for indexing large arrays
(we use superimposed signature with length of 4096 bits to represent sets,
 see Sven Helmer,1997).
 
 Archive is available from
 http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/postgres/gist/code/7.1/contrib-intarray.tar.gz
 
   Regards,
   Oleg
 _
 Oleg Bartunov, sci.researcher, hostmaster of AstroNet,
 Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University (Russia)
 Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/
 phone: +007(095)939-16-83, +007(095)939-23-83
 
 


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Re: [HACKERS] new version of contrib-intarray

2001-03-17 Thread Bruce Momjian

Installed in CVS.  Thanks.

 Mark,
 
 we prepared new version of contrib-intarray -
 index support for 1-D integer arrays using GiST.
 
 Changes:
 
 
 -  Improved regression test
 -  Current implementation provides index support for one-dimensional
array of int4's - gist__int_ops, suitable for small and medium size
of arrays, and gist__intbig_ops for indexing large arrays
(we use superimposed signature with length of 4096 bits to represent sets,
 see Sven Helmer,1997).
 
 Archive is available from
 http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/postgres/gist/code/7.1/contrib-intarray.tar.gz
 
   Regards,
   Oleg
 _
 Oleg Bartunov, sci.researcher, hostmaster of AstroNet,
 Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University (Russia)
 Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/
 phone: +007(095)939-16-83, +007(095)939-23-83
 
 


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Re: [HACKERS] new version of contrib-intarray

2001-03-17 Thread Peter Eisentraut

Bruce Momjian writes:

 Installed in CVS.  Thanks.

You overwrote the changes that other people have made meanwhile.


  Mark,
 
  we prepared new version of contrib-intarray -
  index support for 1-D integer arrays using GiST.
 
  Changes:
 
 
  -  Improved regression test
  -  Current implementation provides index support for one-dimensional
 array of int4's - gist__int_ops, suitable for small and medium size
 of arrays, and gist__intbig_ops for indexing large arrays
 (we use superimposed signature with length of 4096 bits to represent sets,
  see Sven Helmer,1997).
 
  Archive is available from
  http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/postgres/gist/code/7.1/contrib-intarray.tar.gz
 
  Regards,
  Oleg
  _
  Oleg Bartunov, sci.researcher, hostmaster of AstroNet,
  Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University (Russia)
  Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/
  phone: +007(095)939-16-83, +007(095)939-23-83
 
 




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Re: [HACKERS] new version of contrib-intarray

2001-03-17 Thread Bruce Momjian

I checked README.intarray to see what the most recent date was, and it
was Jan 10, so I knew that this version was newer.  I then did a diff -c
against the current CVS and I didn't see anything unusual in the
changes.

Attached is the CVS diff command line showing me all the changes made:

   cvs  diff -c -D '2001-01-13 00:00:00' -D'2001-03-16 00:00:00' .

I see change of += in CFLAGS (harmless), movement of #include
postgres.h, and removal of // comments, which don't appear anymore in
the code.

Do you see anything else?  This one was easy to track because it was
installed only recently, but other /contrib stuff is much tougher
because you never know what the original install date was.

I usually only look at Makefile changes in /contrib because that is
where most of the customization is, and I don't see any changes made to
Makefile by the patch.  It doesn't even touch the CFLAGS += change.

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? Makefile.703
Index: Makefile
===
RCS file: /home/projects/pgsql/cvsroot/pgsql/contrib/intarray/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.2
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -c -r1.2 -r1.3
*** Makefile2001/01/13 02:18:31 1.2
--- Makefile2001/02/20 19:20:27 1.3
***
*** 1,4 
! # $Header: /home/projects/pgsql/cvsroot/pgsql/contrib/intarray/Makefile,v 1.2 
2001/01/13 02:18:31 petere Exp $
  
  subdir = contrib/intarray
  top_builddir = ../..
--- 1,4 
! # $Header: /home/projects/pgsql/cvsroot/pgsql/contrib/intarray/Makefile,v 1.3 
2001/02/20 19:20:27 petere Exp $
  
  subdir = contrib/intarray
  top_builddir = ../..
***
*** 12,18 
  SO_MAJOR_VERSION= 1
  SO_MINOR_VERSION= 0
  
! override CPPFLAGS += -I$(srcdir) -DPGSQL71
  
  OBJS= _int.o
  
--- 12,18 
  SO_MAJOR_VERSION= 1
  SO_MINOR_VERSION= 0
  
! override CPPFLAGS := -I$(srcdir) $(CPPFLAGS) -DPGSQL71
  
  OBJS= _int.o
  
Index: _int.c
===
RCS file: /home/projects/pgsql/cvsroot/pgsql/contrib/intarray/_int.c,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -c -r1.1 -r1.3
*** _int.c  2001/01/12 00:16:23 1.1
--- _int.c  2001/02/12 18:30:52 1.3
***
*** 4,14 
format for these routines is dictated by Postgres architecture.
  **/
  
! #include stdio.h
  #include float.h
  #include string.h
  
- #include "postgres.h"
  #include "access/gist.h"
  #include "access/itup.h"
  #include "access/rtree.h"
--- 4,14 
format for these routines is dictated by Postgres architecture.
  **/
  
! #include "postgres.h"
! 
  #include float.h
  #include string.h
  
  #include "access/gist.h"
  #include "access/itup.h"
  #include "access/rtree.h"
***
*** 194,200 
  
  #ifdef GIST_DEBUG
  elog(NOTICE, "COMP IN: %d leaf; %d rel; %d page; %d offset; %d bytes; %d elems", 
entry-leafkey, (int)entry-rel, (int)entry-page, (int)entry-offset, 
(int)entry-bytes, len);
! //printarr( r, len );
  #endif
  
  if ( len = 2*MAXNUMRANGE ) {  /*compress*/
--- 194,200 
  
  #ifdef GIST_DEBUG
  elog(NOTICE, "COMP IN: %d leaf; %d rel; %d page; %d offset; %d bytes; %d elems", 
entry-leafkey, (int)entry-rel, (int)entry-page, (int)entry-offset, 
(int)entry-bytes, len);
! /* printarr( r, len ); */
  #endif
  
  if ( len = 2*MAXNUMRANGE ) {  /*compress*/
***
*** 260,266 
  
  #ifdef GIST_DEBUG
  elog(NOTICE, "DECOMP IN: %d leaf; %d rel; %d page; %d offset; %d bytes; %d 
elems", entry-leafkey, (int)entry-rel, (int)entry-page, (int)entry-offset, 
(int)entry-bytes, lenin);
! //printarr( in, lenin );
  #endif
  
  lenr = internal_size(din, lenin);
--- 260,266 
  
  #ifdef GIST_DEBUG
  elog(NOTICE, "DECOMP IN: %d leaf; %d rel; %d page; %d offset; %d bytes; %d 
elems", entry-leafkey, (int)entry-rel, (int)entry-page, (int)entry-offset, 
(int)entry-bytes, lenin);
! /* printarr( in, lenin ); */
  #endif
  
  lenr = internal_size(din, lenin);
***
*** 653,659 
int i,j;
  
  #ifdef GIST_DEBUG
! //elog(NOTICE, "inner_union %d %d", ARRISNULL( a ) , ARRISNULL( b ) );
  #endif
  
if ( ARRISNULL( a )  ARRISNULL( b ) ) return new_intArrayType(0);
--- 653,659 
int i,j;
  
  #ifdef GIST_DEBUG
! /* elog(NOTICE, "inner_union %d %d", ARRISNULL( a ) , ARRISNULL( b ) ); */
  #endif
  
if ( ARRISNULL( a )  ARRISNULL( b ) ) return new_intArrayType(0);
***
*** 709,715 
int i,j;
  
  #ifdef GIST_DEBUG
! //elog(NOTICE, "inner_inter %d %d", ARRISNULL( a ), 

Re: [HACKERS] new version of contrib-intarray

2001-01-29 Thread Tom Lane

Oleg Bartunov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  gist__int_ops|   1007
  gist__intbig_ops |   1007

 we want gist__int_ops to be default index opclass.
 If we delete gist__intbig_ops entry from opclass, then we couldn't use
 gist__intbig_ops !

Put in gist__intbig_ops with zero for the default type.  You should
never have more than one entry in pg_opclass claiming to be the default
for a given type OID.

regards, tom lane



Re: [HACKERS] new version of contrib-intarray

2001-01-27 Thread Tom Lane

Oleg Bartunov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 btw, is there way to specify default ops for index ?

Sure, that's what pg_opclass is for.  Just insert the opclass name
and the OID of the type you want it to be the default index opclass
for.

regards, tom lane



Re: [HACKERS] new version of contrib-intarray

2001-01-26 Thread Bruce Momjian


Oleg, do you want this in /contrib for 7.1?

 Mark,
 
 we prepared new version of contrib-intarray -
 index support for 1-D integer arrays using GiST.
 
 Changes:
 
 
 -  Improved regression test
 -  Current implementation provides index support for one-dimensional
array of int4's - gist__int_ops, suitable for small and medium size
of arrays, and gist__intbig_ops for indexing large arrays
(we use superimposed signature with length of 4096 bits to represent sets,
 see Sven Helmer,1997).
 
 Archive is available from
 http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/postgres/gist/code/7.1/contrib-intarray.tar.gz
 
   Regards,
   Oleg
 _
 Oleg Bartunov, sci.researcher, hostmaster of AstroNet,
 Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University (Russia)
 Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/
 phone: +007(095)939-16-83, +007(095)939-23-83
 
 


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Re: [HACKERS] new version of contrib-intarray

2001-01-26 Thread Oleg Bartunov

On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote:


 Oleg, do you want this in /contrib for 7.1?

yes, if it's possible.
btw, is there way to specify default ops for index ?
We have two methods of index creation for intarrays and
would like to define which should be used by default


  Mark,
 
  we prepared new version of contrib-intarray -
  index support for 1-D integer arrays using GiST.
 
  Changes:
 
 
  -  Improved regression test
  -  Current implementation provides index support for one-dimensional
 array of int4's - gist__int_ops, suitable for small and medium size
 of arrays, and gist__intbig_ops for indexing large arrays
 (we use superimposed signature with length of 4096 bits to represent sets,
  see Sven Helmer,1997).
 
  Archive is available from
  http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/postgres/gist/code/7.1/contrib-intarray.tar.gz
 
  Regards,
  Oleg
  _
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  Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University (Russia)
  Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/
  phone: +007(095)939-16-83, +007(095)939-23-83
 
 




Regards,
Oleg
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[HACKERS] new version of contrib-intarray

2001-01-25 Thread Oleg Bartunov

Mark,

we prepared new version of contrib-intarray -
index support for 1-D integer arrays using GiST.

Changes:


-  Improved regression test
-  Current implementation provides index support for one-dimensional
   array of int4's - gist__int_ops, suitable for small and medium size
   of arrays, and gist__intbig_ops for indexing large arrays
   (we use superimposed signature with length of 4096 bits to represent sets,
see Sven Helmer,1997).

Archive is available from
http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/postgres/gist/code/7.1/contrib-intarray.tar.gz

Regards,
Oleg
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Oleg Bartunov, sci.researcher, hostmaster of AstroNet,
Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University (Russia)
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