Re: [HACKERS] Copyrights on files

2007-03-26 Thread Florian Weimer
* Bruce Momjian:

   src/backend/port/dynloader/aix.c
   * This is an unpublished work copyright (c) 1992 HELIOS Software GmbH
   * 30159 Hannover, Germany

The company still exists, it seems.  Have you tried to contact them?
See http://www.helios.de/about/email.phtml.

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Re: [HACKERS] Copyrights on files

2007-03-26 Thread Bruce Momjian
Bruce Momjian wrote:
 Someone has pointed out to me that we have non-PostgreSQL/Berkeley
 copyrights on a number of files:
   
   src/port/rint.c
   * Copyright (c) 1999, repas AEG Automation GmbH
   
   src/backend/port/dynloader/aix.c
   * This is an unpublished work copyright (c) 1992 HELIOS Software GmbH
   * 30159 Hannover, Germany
   
   src/backend/utils/mb/Unicode/UCS_to_GB18030.pl
   # Copyright 2002 by Bill Huang

The above copyright mentions have no actual BSD copyright text, so what
do we do?  If we assume they are BSD copyrights that match our own, we
perhaps don't have a problem.  If not, we do have a problem.

The one that is a more serious issue is in
/pgtop/contrib/pgcrypto/blf.*, where the BSD advertising clause is in
the copyright, and the author has updated the copyright:

 *must display the following acknowledgement:
 *  This product includes software developed by Niels Provos.

I will try to contact all the authors to get permission to clean this
up.

---

 * Blowfish block cipher for OpenBSD
 * Copyright 1997 Niels Provos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * All rights reserved.
 *
 * Implementation advice by David Mazieres [EMAIL PROTECTED].
 *
 * Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
 * modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions
 * are met:
 * 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
 *notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
 * 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
 *notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the
 *documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
 * 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software
 *must display the following acknowledgement:
 *  This product includes software developed by Niels Provos.
 * 4. The name of the author may not be used to endorse or promote products
 *derived from this software without specific prior written permission.
 *



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Re: [HACKERS] Copyrights on files

2007-03-25 Thread mark
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 11:28:26PM -0400, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
 Bruce Momjian wrote:
  I have emailed Andrew Yu to see if we can remove his line, but I
  question whether the other people can be reached.
  How should we handle this?
 If they are released under the BSD license, why do we care about it?

Only the GPL license has the explicit clause or any feature version of
this license. This clause was designed specifically for this purpose.
To allow the GPL to be updated and automatically apply to all software.
Except, it doesn't. Linux, for example, at least for some time, had an
explicit point that Linus Torvalds did not agree with this ability to
for the FSF to change the terms under which Linux is available. He wrote
at the top of the license words to the effect: You may *only* use version
2 of the GPL.

Not that I have ever chosen to use the BSD license as a template for any
of my software - but if I did, the University of Berkeley cannot change
the terms of *my* software. The University of Berkeley can only change
the terms of software actually owned by the University of Berkeley.

Cheers,
mark

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Re: [HACKERS] Copyrights on files

2007-03-24 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Bruce Momjian wrote:
 Someone has pointed out to me that we have non-PostgreSQL/Berkeley
 copyrights on a number of files:
   
   src/port/rint.c
   * Copyright (c) 1999, repas AEG Automation GmbH
   
   src/backend/port/dynloader/aix.c
   * This is an unpublished work copyright (c) 1992 HELIOS Software GmbH
   * 30159 Hannover, Germany
   
   src/backend/port/dynloader/ultrix4.h
   *  Copyright (c) 1993 Andrew K. Yu, University of California at Berkeley
   *  All rights reserved.
   ... BSD copyright text follows
   
   src/backend/utils/mb/Unicode/UCS_to_GB18030.pl
   # Copyright 2002 by Bill Huang
 
 I have emailed Andrew Yu to see if we can remove his line, but I
 question whether the other people can be reached.
 
 How should we handle this?

If they are released under the BSD license, why do we care about it?

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Re: [HACKERS] Copyrights on files

2007-03-24 Thread Joshua D. Drake

Bruce Momjian wrote:

Someone has pointed out to me that we have non-PostgreSQL/Berkeley
copyrights on a number of files:

src/port/rint.c
* Copyright (c) 1999, repas AEG Automation GmbH

src/backend/port/dynloader/aix.c
* This is an unpublished work copyright (c) 1992 HELIOS Software GmbH
* 30159 Hannover, Germany

src/backend/port/dynloader/ultrix4.h
*  Copyright (c) 1993 Andrew K. Yu, University of California at Berkeley
*  All rights reserved.
... BSD copyright text follows

src/backend/utils/mb/Unicode/UCS_to_GB18030.pl
# Copyright 2002 by Bill Huang

I have emailed Andrew Yu to see if we can remove his line, but I
question whether the other people can be reached.

How should we handle this?



We either have to rewrite those parts entirely, or accept them as they are.

Joshua D. Drake

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Re: [HACKERS] Copyrights on files

2007-03-24 Thread Joshua D. Drake

Alvaro Herrera wrote:

Bruce Momjian wrote:

Someone has pointed out to me that we have non-PostgreSQL/Berkeley
copyrights on a number of files:

src/port/rint.c
* Copyright (c) 1999, repas AEG Automation GmbH

src/backend/port/dynloader/aix.c
* This is an unpublished work copyright (c) 1992 HELIOS Software GmbH
* 30159 Hannover, Germany

src/backend/port/dynloader/ultrix4.h
*  Copyright (c) 1993 Andrew K. Yu, University of California at Berkeley
*  All rights reserved.
... BSD copyright text follows

src/backend/utils/mb/Unicode/UCS_to_GB18030.pl
# Copyright 2002 by Bill Huang

I have emailed Andrew Yu to see if we can remove his line, but I
question whether the other people can be reached.

How should we handle this?


If they are released under the BSD license, why do we care about it?


Because BSD != BSD in all cases.

Consider the advertising clause for example.

Joshua D. Drake




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