Re: [HACKERS] Mirro updates

2003-07-04 Thread Josh Berkus
Guys,

 On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 10:18:06PM +0100, Dave Page wrote:
  Yes, this is expected. Currently the website is not being mirrored due
  to it's dependency on a backend database. We are considering different
  ways of overcoming this problem in a useful way.

Bricolage?   i.e. generation of static HTML from a central site that pushes 
out to the mirrors.

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Re: [HACKERS] Mirro updates

2003-07-04 Thread Dave Page
It's rumoured that Josh Berkus once said:
 Guys,

 On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 10:18:06PM +0100, Dave Page wrote:
  Yes, this is expected. Currently the website is not being mirrored
  due to it's dependency on a backend database. We are considering
  different ways of overcoming this problem in a useful way.

 Bricolage?   i.e. generation of static HTML from a central site that
 pushes  out to the mirrors.

Well I'm looking at Bricolage for other reasons, but basically that's what
we're doing on the main site, just with our own code.
Regards, Dave



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Re: [HACKERS] Mirro updates

2003-07-03 Thread Andrew Sullivan
(Sorry, been _way_ behind on the email reading.)

On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 10:18:06PM +0100, Dave Page wrote:
 Yes, this is expected. Currently the website is not being mirrored due
 to it's dependency on a backend database. We are considering different
 ways of overcoming this problem in a useful way.

Would one of the ways be to use replication of the main databases? 
There's more than one project around, some of which have been in
contrib/, and _any_ proof to the public that PostgreSQL can indeed be
replicated would be helpful, I'd say.

A

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Re: [HACKERS] Mirro updates

2003-07-03 Thread Dave Page


 -Original Message-
 From: Andrew Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 03 July 2003 17:24
 To: pgsql-hackers list
 Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Mirro updates
 
 
 (Sorry, been _way_ behind on the email reading.)
 
 On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 10:18:06PM +0100, Dave Page wrote:
  Yes, this is expected. Currently the website is not being 
 mirrored due 
  to it's dependency on a backend database. We are 
 considering different 
  ways of overcoming this problem in a useful way.
 
 Would one of the ways be to use replication of the main databases? 
 There's more than one project around, some of which have been 
 in contrib/, and _any_ proof to the public that PostgreSQL 
 can indeed be replicated would be helpful, I'd say.

Been there, covered that :-)

In my opinion the difficulties of distributing schema updates and
changes from the constantly evolving site would put far too much of a
reliance on the mirror operators to handle updates we cannot replicate,
not to mention the fact they'd need to install PostgreSQL on their
server and give us access anyway - something I wouldn't be overly happy
about doing for one.

As it happens, much of the site is now mirrored anyway. All the static
parts are now mirrored, and happily link back to the main site where
they need to. I'm working on the docs at the moment (well, was yesterday
- been busy today) and once they're done, all that remains is the survey
and the news/events (which should be fairly straightforward as well).

Regards, Dave.

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Re: [HACKERS] Mirro updates

2003-06-14 Thread ohp
Then, I'm all ears and ready to help if I can

On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, The Hermit Hacker wrote:

 Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 18:21:48 -0300 (ADT)
 From: The Hermit Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: pgsql-hackers list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Mirro updates

 On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi vince, Hi Marc
 
  Although I understand why, I think it's a bit f a pity that there's no
  mirror of web anymore. For that it means that 1) every thing is now on
  your shoulders and that if anything goes wrong you've got no mirror to
  rely on.
 
  BUT the Good thing is it advocates for database replication as this could
  make mirrors run again :)

 God, I never enough thought about that ... a read-only replication would
 be *very* easy to setup ...

 Dave/Robert?  Thoughts?



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Re: [HACKERS] Mirro updates

2003-06-13 Thread The Hermit Hacker

for the web, yes ... the new site doesn't support mirroring, as its highly
database driven ... only thing still mirrorable, really, is the ftp
server ...

On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi every one,

 Is it normal that mirro site now all redirect to www.postgresql.org?

 It also seem that rsync is doing nothing when updating www...

 Regards

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Re: [HACKERS] Mirro updates

2003-06-13 Thread Vince Vielhaber
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, The Hermit Hacker wrote:


 for the web, yes ... the new site doesn't support mirroring, as its highly
 database driven ... only thing still mirrorable, really, is the ftp
 server ...

I knew that was gonna happen.

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Re: [HACKERS] Mirro updates

2003-06-13 Thread Dave Page


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 13 June 2003 15:19
 To: pgsql-hackers list
 Subject: [HACKERS] Mirro updates
 
 
 Hi every one,
 
 Is it normal that mirro site now all redirect to www.postgresql.org?
 
 It also seem that rsync is doing nothing when updating www...

Yes, this is expected. Currently the website is not being mirrored due
to it's dependency on a backend database. We are considering different
ways of overcoming this problem in a useful way.

Regards, Dave.

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Re: [HACKERS] Mirro updates

2003-06-13 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi vince, Hi Marc

 Although I understand why, I think it's a bit f a pity that there's no
 mirror of web anymore. For that it means that 1) every thing is now on
 your shoulders and that if anything goes wrong you've got no mirror to
 rely on.

 BUT the Good thing is it advocates for database replication as this could
 make mirrors run again :)

God, I never enough thought about that ... a read-only replication would
be *very* easy to setup ...

Dave/Robert?  Thoughts?


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