Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] flow: a living full-stack #framework for the web
And now following Sven suggestion, thanks Sven!, I’ve published here is the first post about flow In this I set the starting point, showing reception and mission and starting the conversation on next steps https://medium.com/@sebastianconcpt/flow-a-living-full-stack-framework-for-the-web-b4772630f190 Your thoughts and further questions are welcomed On Oct 6, 2014, at 4:10 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 06 Oct 2014, at 07:43, S Krish krishnamachari.sudha...@gmail.com wrote: The links has the step by step. I am running it as I type.. Yeah, put that is more a setup guide, it end by saying 'and now you are ready to build your app', that is the part that I am interested in. Maybe a simplified Reddit clone, like in https://medium.com/@svenvc/reddit-st-in-10-cool-pharo-classes-1b5327ca0740 - this would be ideal, since we could then compare things better. Sven
Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] flow: a living full-stack #framework for the web
sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote Your thoughts and further questions are welcomed How does it compare to Tide seems like a popular question ;) - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ANN-flow-a-living-full-stack-framework-for-the-web-tp4782823p4784014.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] flow: a living full-stack #framework for the web
On Oct 10, 2014, at 11:16 AM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote Your thoughts and further questions are welcomed How does it compare to Tide seems like a popular question ;) Card for that here: https://trello.com/c/nCzIHxc9/49-how-does-it-flow-compare-to-tide - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ANN-flow-a-living-full-stack-framework-for-the-web-tp4782823p4784014.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] flow: a living full-stack #framework for the web
Sebastian Sastre wrote: I don’t know, flow is a mission with a curated framework (so it’s mission first) What you can see is flow’s features being done here: https://trello.com/b/NVqhll4I/flow I get... Board not found. This board may be private. If someone gave you this link, they may need to invite you to one of their boards or organizations.
Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] flow: a living full-stack #framework for the web
2014-10-07 8:25 GMT-03:00 Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com: Sebastian Sastre wrote: I don’t know, flow is a mission with a curated framework (so it’s mission first) What you can see is flow’s features being done here: https://trello.com/b/NVqhll4I/flow I get... Board not found. This board may be private. If someone gave you this link, they may need to invite you to one of their boards or organizations. I have this link working: https://trello.com/b/oQ17lPpV/flow but yes we cannot edit it. I want to propose the idea of having web app testing integrated in flow. Selenium or whatever. In any case thanks for that Sebastian! Cheers, #Luc
Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] flow: a living full-stack #framework for the web
wrong link, sorry for that. Here is flow's board: https://trello.com/b/oQ17lPpV/flow from iPad On 07/10/2014, at 08:25, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: Sebastian Sastre wrote: I don’t know, flow is a mission with a curated framework (so it’s mission first) What you can see is flow’s features being done here: https://trello.com/b/NVqhll4I/flow I get... Board not found. This board may be private. If someone gave you this link, they may need to invite you to one of their boards or organizations.
Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] flow: a living full-stack #framework for the web
sounds exciting! that would be a great addition from iPad On 07/10/2014, at 08:40, Luc Fabresse luc.fabre...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-10-07 8:25 GMT-03:00 Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com: Sebastian Sastre wrote: I don’t know, flow is a mission with a curated framework (so it’s mission first) What you can see is flow’s features being done here: https://trello.com/b/NVqhll4I/flow I get... Board not found. This board may be private. If someone gave you this link, they may need to invite you to one of their boards or organizations. I have this link working: https://trello.com/b/oQ17lPpV/flow but yes we cannot edit it. I want to propose the idea of having web app testing integrated in flow. Selenium or whatever. In any case thanks for that Sebastian! Cheers, #Luc
Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] flow: a living full-stack #framework for the web
On 6/10/14 06:40, Tudor Girba wrote: Hi Sebastian, Interesting. Is there a relation between flow and Tide? Indeed I asked myself the same because I would like to see more traction around tide because this is a great framework. Cheers, Doru On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 11:04 PM, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com mailto:sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: Hi guys, I’m sharing slides of my presentation at CampSmalltalkVI2014 http://www.slideshare.net/sebastianconcept/flow-39897704 From flow’s readme at github https://github.com/flow-stack/flow: Flow's mission is to provide /consultants/, /startups/ and /software houses/ with *a competitive Smalltalk full-stack framework* that allows them to quickly deliver a demo with all the modern html5 features the market expects today (2014). The idea is that they can tactically use this framework to keep momentum up among their prospects and clients and scale things to full successful projects delivered by kickass productive teams or individuals. sebastian https://about.me/sebastianconcept o/ blog: http://sebastianconcept.com http://sebastianconcept.com/ LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/sebastiansastre github: https://github.com/sebastianconcept -- www.tudorgirba.com http://www.tudorgirba.com Every thing has its own flow
Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] flow: a living full-stack #framework for the web
./startAll first gave an permission denied error , changed to the .hood/platform/linux folder to give permissions.. then it gave Not implemented yet realize the startAll has just that echo..!. lead me on a bit more.. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 11:13 AM, S Krish krishnamachari.sudha...@gmail.com wrote: The links has the step by step. I am running it as I type.. * For newbies on linux a mention of dependencies viz installing git / curl/ npm , node.js and bower and any others reqd would be great.. Anyways will post my attempt note in a few min.. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Great ! Wasn't there a step by step tutorial somewhere ? On 05 Oct 2014, at 23:04, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: Hi guys, I’m sharing slides of my presentation at CampSmalltalkVI2014 http://www.slideshare.net/sebastianconcept/flow-39897704 From flow’s readme at github: Flow's mission is to provide consultants, startups and software houses with a competitive Smalltalk full-stack framework that allows them to quickly deliver a demo with all the modern html5 features the market expects today (2014). The idea is that they can tactically use this framework to keep momentum up among their prospects and clients and scale things to full successful projects delivered by kickass productive teams or individuals. sebastian o/ blog: http://sebastianconcept.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/sebastiansastre github: https://github.com/sebastianconcept
Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] flow: a living full-stack #framework for the web
On 06 Oct 2014, at 07:43, S Krish krishnamachari.sudha...@gmail.com wrote: The links has the step by step. I am running it as I type.. Yeah, put that is more a setup guide, it end by saying 'and now you are ready to build your app', that is the part that I am interested in. Maybe a simplified Reddit clone, like in https://medium.com/@svenvc/reddit-st-in-10-cool-pharo-classes-1b5327ca0740 - this would be ideal, since we could then compare things better. Sven
Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] flow: a living full-stack #framework for the web
I don’t know, flow is a mission with a curated framework (so it’s mission first) What you can see is flow’s features being done here: https://trello.com/b/NVqhll4I/flow And you are welcome to take a card and push the feature you need running I’m pushing the ones I need most for the demos I’m doing for my clients like... now :) It’s being awesome for corporate innovation indeed A screencast is in my todo list and the petshop sample app is already in the repo (incomplete at this point but has a couple of screens) On Oct 6, 2014, at 1:40 AM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi Sebastian, Interesting. Is there a relation between flow and Tide? Cheers, Doru On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 11:04 PM, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: Hi guys, I’m sharing slides of my presentation at CampSmalltalkVI2014 http://www.slideshare.net/sebastianconcept/flow-39897704 From flow’s readme at github: Flow's mission is to provide consultants, startups and software houses with a competitive Smalltalk full-stack framework that allows them to quickly deliver a demo with all the modern html5 features the market expects today (2014). The idea is that they can tactically use this framework to keep momentum up among their prospects and clients and scale things to full successful projects delivered by kickass productive teams or individuals. sebastian o/ blog: http://sebastianconcept.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/sebastiansastre github: https://github.com/sebastianconcept -- www.tudorgirba.com Every thing has its own flow
Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] flow: a living full-stack #framework for the web
great! If it doesn’t feel productive is broken and should be fixed so please let me know if you find bumps so I can continue smashing them to ease adoption On Oct 6, 2014, at 2:28 AM, S Krish krishnamachari.sudha...@gmail.com wrote: Abs great .. !.. https://github.com/flow-stack/flow have yet to install and check if it has any issues in my system. Will check it out, infact have a hackathon to see if this can be tried out on it. Nice framework to demo Smalltalk to the crowd in a banking world.. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 2:34 AM, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: Hi guys, I’m sharing slides of my presentation at CampSmalltalkVI2014 http://www.slideshare.net/sebastianconcept/flow-39897704 From flow’s readme at github: Flow's mission is to provide consultants, startups and software houses with a competitive Smalltalk full-stack framework that allows them to quickly deliver a demo with all the modern html5 features the market expects today (2014). The idea is that they can tactically use this framework to keep momentum up among their prospects and clients and scale things to full successful projects delivered by kickass productive teams or individuals. sebastian o/ blog: http://sebastianconcept.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/sebastiansastre github: https://github.com/sebastianconcept
Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] flow: a living full-stack #framework for the web
I’m doing one thing at the time. I’ve started with the read me and requisites and FAQ A tutorial would be great indeed but I think I’ll do a screencast first and pair with people to get strong validation of the most valuable problems people faces first Your feedback would be great On Oct 6, 2014, at 2:36 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Great ! Wasn't there a step by step tutorial somewhere ? On 05 Oct 2014, at 23:04, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: Hi guys, I’m sharing slides of my presentation at CampSmalltalkVI2014 http://www.slideshare.net/sebastianconcept/flow-39897704 From flow’s readme at github: Flow's mission is to provide consultants, startups and software houses with a competitive Smalltalk full-stack framework that allows them to quickly deliver a demo with all the modern html5 features the market expects today (2014). The idea is that they can tactically use this framework to keep momentum up among their prospects and clients and scale things to full successful projects delivered by kickass productive teams or individuals. sebastian o/ blog: http://sebastianconcept.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/sebastiansastre github: https://github.com/sebastianconcept
Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] flow: a living full-stack #framework for the web
please do! that will help a lot! Indeed there is a lot to catch up, the web is a universe We have parts of the audience that never touched javascript and we’re trying to make them heros on fullstack in half hour :D On Oct 6, 2014, at 2:43 AM, S Krish krishnamachari.sudha...@gmail.com wrote: The links has the step by step. I am running it as I type.. * For newbies on linux a mention of dependencies viz installing git / curl/ npm , node.js and bower and any others reqd would be great.. Anyways will post my attempt note in a few min.. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Great ! Wasn't there a step by step tutorial somewhere ? On 05 Oct 2014, at 23:04, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: Hi guys, I’m sharing slides of my presentation at CampSmalltalkVI2014 http://www.slideshare.net/sebastianconcept/flow-39897704 From flow’s readme at github: Flow's mission is to provide consultants, startups and software houses with a competitive Smalltalk full-stack framework that allows them to quickly deliver a demo with all the modern html5 features the market expects today (2014). The idea is that they can tactically use this framework to keep momentum up among their prospects and clients and scale things to full successful projects delivered by kickass productive teams or individuals. sebastian o/ blog: http://sebastianconcept.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/sebastiansastre github: https://github.com/sebastianconcept
Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] flow: a living full-stack #framework for the web
you’re probably running on linux and I didn’t implement it the start scripts there yet please take a look at the windows ones since they are bash based There is no mystery, they just start one thing in each terminal: mongo amber grunt watch and pharo if you do it manually you’ll be fine you also need to work with pretty domains and I don’t know how to setup them on linux but shouldn’t be too different from this guide: http://zaiste.net/2013/03/serving_apps_locally_with_nginx_and_pretty_domains/ once you have $ ping flow.dev responding from your localhost, you can try setting up nginx also, be sure you meet all requirements! https://github.com/sebastianconcept/flow/wiki/flow-requirements On Oct 6, 2014, at 3:00 AM, S Krish krishnamachari.sudha...@gmail.com wrote: ./startAll first gave an permission denied error , changed to the .hood/platform/linux folder to give permissions.. then it gave Not implemented yet realize the startAll has just that echo..!. lead me on a bit more..
Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] flow: a living full-stack #framework for the web
Yeah we need to make a proper logo and landing page thing is I’ve rushed it so I can be announced at CampSmalltalkVI2014 I’d really like to see something ala meteor about download, start and use but at this point I have to pay attention to what my clients ask and flow will win features that cascade from that It’s all open to contributions so if you have ideas on how to get that done you’re welcome to help (one show stopper I’ve found to do one thing runs all was the nginx configuration, it’s needed for the websockets connections used by flow's realtime features) Some of your questions are covered here (including question on Seaside/Aida): https://github.com/flow-stack/flow/blob/master/FAQ.md others don’t, please add them and send me pull request so we at least have them scaffolded to answer later I agree with Sven and you, a written tutorial will be great, it’s here in the project kanban already Mapless is fun! useful for easy persistence but also to throw and catch JSON all over the network keep shooting! On Oct 6, 2014, at 3:25 PM, Alain Rastoul alf.mmm@gmail.com wrote: This development stack sounds really nice! A really great idea. Some thoughts (more or less en vrac, apologizes): As it is aimed at people who want a working app/demo solution out of the box, and if you intent is to push this stack further, perhaps it should have a more dedicated site than github with links to: - the setup part (more or less your github pages?) - a zipped tarball with everything working out of the box with up to date versions of mongo, nginx, the Pharo image , and all parts needed : a tarball for windows, one for linux, one for mac - a sample application and the tutorial how to build it (Sven's is right) I have no clue about angularjs? - I know I have to learn javascript, made some trials but don't like it much - does it replace or complete seaside (don't think so , but not sure) ? , how does it play with jquery and others ? - a part about mongo. I like mongo, even if I work with relational systems every day. I don't like orms and Mapless sounds great (but as I discovered it this morning on your site I have to spend some time on it). Really great idea indeed - I will make a try. Regards, Alain Le 05/10/2014 23:04, Sebastian Sastre a écrit : Hi guys, I’m sharing slides of my presentation at CampSmalltalkVI2014 http://www.slideshare.net/sebastianconcept/flow-39897704 From flow’s readme at github https://github.com/flow-stack/flow: Flow's mission is to provide /consultants/, /startups/ and /software houses/ with *a competitive Smalltalk full-stack framework* that allows them to quickly deliver a demo with all the modern html5 features the market expects today (2014). The idea is that they can tactically use this framework to keep momentum up among their prospects and clients and scale things to full successful projects delivered by kickass productive teams or individuals. sebastian https://about.me/sebastianconcept o/ blog: http://sebastianconcept.com http://sebastianconcept.com/ LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/sebastiansastre github: https://github.com/sebastianconcept
[Pharo-dev] [ANN] flow: a living full-stack #framework for the web
Hi guys, I’m sharing slides of my presentation at CampSmalltalkVI2014 http://www.slideshare.net/sebastianconcept/flow-39897704 From flow’s readme at github: Flow's mission is to provide consultants, startups and software houses with a competitive Smalltalk full-stack framework that allows them to quickly deliver a demo with all the modern html5 features the market expects today (2014). The idea is that they can tactically use this framework to keep momentum up among their prospects and clients and scale things to full successful projects delivered by kickass productive teams or individuals. sebastian o/ blog: http://sebastianconcept.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/sebastiansastre github: https://github.com/sebastianconcept
Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] flow: a living full-stack #framework for the web
Hi Sebastian, Interesting. Is there a relation between flow and Tide? Cheers, Doru On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 11:04 PM, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: Hi guys, I’m sharing slides of my presentation at CampSmalltalkVI2014 http://www.slideshare.net/sebastianconcept/flow-39897704 From flow’s readme at github https://github.com/flow-stack/flow: Flow's mission is to provide *consultants*, *startups* and *software houses* with *a competitive Smalltalk full-stack framework* that allows them to quickly deliver a demo with all the modern html5 features the market expects today (2014). The idea is that they can tactically use this framework to keep momentum up among their prospects and clients and scale things to full successful projects delivered by kickass productive teams or individuals. sebastian https://about.me/sebastianconcept o/ blog: http://sebastianconcept.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/sebastiansastre github: https://github.com/sebastianconcept -- www.tudorgirba.com Every thing has its own flow
Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] flow: a living full-stack #framework for the web
Abs great .. !.. https://github.com/flow-stack/flow have yet to install and check if it has any issues in my system. Will check it out, infact have a hackathon to see if this can be tried out on it. Nice framework to demo Smalltalk to the crowd in a banking world.. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 2:34 AM, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: Hi guys, I’m sharing slides of my presentation at CampSmalltalkVI2014 http://www.slideshare.net/sebastianconcept/flow-39897704 From flow’s readme at github https://github.com/flow-stack/flow: Flow's mission is to provide *consultants*, *startups* and *software houses* with *a competitive Smalltalk full-stack framework* that allows them to quickly deliver a demo with all the modern html5 features the market expects today (2014). The idea is that they can tactically use this framework to keep momentum up among their prospects and clients and scale things to full successful projects delivered by kickass productive teams or individuals. sebastian https://about.me/sebastianconcept o/ blog: http://sebastianconcept.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/sebastiansastre github: https://github.com/sebastianconcept
Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] flow: a living full-stack #framework for the web
The links has the step by step. I am running it as I type.. * For newbies on linux a mention of dependencies viz installing git / curl/ npm , node.js and bower and any others reqd would be great.. Anyways will post my attempt note in a few min.. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Great ! Wasn't there a step by step tutorial somewhere ? On 05 Oct 2014, at 23:04, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: Hi guys, I’m sharing slides of my presentation at CampSmalltalkVI2014 http://www.slideshare.net/sebastianconcept/flow-39897704 From flow’s readme at github: Flow's mission is to provide consultants, startups and software houses with a competitive Smalltalk full-stack framework that allows them to quickly deliver a demo with all the modern html5 features the market expects today (2014). The idea is that they can tactically use this framework to keep momentum up among their prospects and clients and scale things to full successful projects delivered by kickass productive teams or individuals. sebastian o/ blog: http://sebastianconcept.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/sebastiansastre github: https://github.com/sebastianconcept
