Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Pierce Ng]

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 04:42:03PM -0800, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:
> Andreas Wacknitz wrote
> > Everything that is used outside Pharo could have a fancy name.
> > For internal tools and frameworks this is... like talking in argot and
> > creates high walls around Pharo.
> 
> +100

Just call it Bike Teleporter already. :-P

Pierce

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Sean P. DeNigris]

Andreas Wacknitz wrote
> Everything that is used outside Pharo could have a fancy name.
> For internal tools and frameworks this is... like talking in argot and
> creates high walls around Pharo.

+100



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Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Igor Stasenko]

Call it Java[tm]
..
..
what? i heard it is quite popular. albeit fuzzy wuzzy
:)

P.S. just call it Pharo-Remote and let it go


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Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Andreas Wacknitz]

I second this wholeheartedly!
Everything that is used outside Pharo could have a fancy name.
For internal tools and frameworks this is IMO really irritating and 
repellent.

It is like talking in argot and creates high walls around Pharo.

Andreas

Am 24.02.17 um 17:18 schrieb Brad Selfridge:

I understand that if a developer is building a standalone application, (like
Windows, Apache, Slack, Git, .. PHARO !!! ), then a fuzzy-wuzzy name may
make sense. But, there are so many packages that are built for Pharo/Squeak
use only, that have cryptic names and no descriptions. This drives me crazy.
I see all these package names spewn about and I have no idea what they are.
I look on the Pharo website - no explanation. I look on Git - often times
little to no explanation. I look on SmalltalkHub - little to no
explanation...etc. I look on Catalog Browser - absolutely NO explanation.
The only way to find out is start texting message boards or load the code
and study the crap out of it just trying to figure out that - "oops, I
didn't really want that loaded at all".

With that said, the creator has the right to name their creation anything
they want. Just understand, that we ARE wanting to grow our exposure and the
we need to make this as easy and pain free as possible.



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Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Brad Selfridge]

I understand that if a developer is building a standalone application, (like
Windows, Apache, Slack, Git, .. PHARO !!! ), then a fuzzy-wuzzy name may
make sense. But, there are so many packages that are built for Pharo/Squeak
use only, that have cryptic names and no descriptions. This drives me crazy.
I see all these package names spewn about and I have no idea what they are.
I look on the Pharo website - no explanation. I look on Git - often times
little to no explanation. I look on SmalltalkHub - little to no
explanation...etc. I look on Catalog Browser - absolutely NO explanation.
The only way to find out is start texting message boards or load the code
and study the crap out of it just trying to figure out that - "oops, I
didn't really want that loaded at all". 

With that said, the creator has the right to name their creation anything
they want. Just understand, that we ARE wanting to grow our exposure and the
we need to make this as easy and pain free as possible. 



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Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Esteban A. Maringolo]

If anybody ever did an `apt-cache search name` it will be clear that
having a good, concise, intention revealing package name is better
than having a sophisticated one. I don't see how in Pharo catalogs and
other discovery/browsing mechanisms it would be different.

Best regards!

Esteban A. Maringolo


2017-02-24 7:34 GMT-03:00 Markus Fritsche :
> Hello,
>
> I guess the vote is already cast, but I'd like to add my two Cents:
>
> the packages now have a description that give an idea about what the package
> is supposed to do. Still, discoverability should be considered when finding
> a name. That's why I would prefer something like TelePharo, since the name
> already hints at the core functionality.
>
> Best regards,
>   Markus
>
>
> Am 29.01.2017 15:14, schrieb stepharong:
>>
>> Hi guys
>>
>> Since we will push the remote tools (videos/web...) I would like to
>> get  some ideas for a cool name.
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Because Pharmide (looks like medicine or chemical product).
>> Since I vaguely remember some german Pharmide made me think about
>> Fern(sehen) but this is not a good name.
>>
>> Stef
>>
>>
>> --
>
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Markus Fritsche]

Hello,

I guess the vote is already cast, but I'd like to add my two Cents:

the packages now have a description that give an idea about what the 
package is supposed to do. Still, discoverability should be considered 
when finding a name. That's why I would prefer something like TelePharo, 
since the name already hints at the core functionality.


Best regards,
  Markus

Am 29.01.2017 15:14, schrieb stepharong:

Hi guys

Since we will push the remote tools (videos/web...) I would like to
get  some ideas for a cool name.
Any ideas?

Because Pharmide (looks like medicine or chemical product).
Since I vaguely remember some german Pharmide made me think about
Fern(sehen) but this is not a good name.

Stef


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Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[p...@highoctane.be]

Reach remote worlds with Pharocket!



Phil

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 10:35 AM, Denis Kudriashov 
wrote:

> Philippe invented new word Pharocket :). Maybe it is the best for this
> project?
>
>
> 2017-01-30 17:09 GMT+01:00 Dimitris Chloupis :
>
>> Also I think its fair that the guy that wrote the code to pick the name,
>> its his baby afterall, whether he is paid for it or not. He earned that
>> right.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 6:06 PM Dimitris Chloupis 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Just for the record, the name does not matter
>>>
>>> As a matter of fact if you want the name to really sell the library/
>>> tools then the last thing you want is a name that makes any logical sense
>>>
>>> You have much better chance to catch attention with "Pink Elephant" than
>>> "Pharo Remote tools" or whatever
>>>
>>> illogical names monopolise the software market
>>>
>>> Python
>>> Ruby on Rails
>>> Django
>>> Blender
>>> Unreal
>>> Unity
>>> Javascript
>>> Java
>>> C
>>> C++
>>> Windows
>>> MacOS
>>>
>>> and so on
>>>
>>> Developers choose to name their projects the craziest names and wisely so
>>>
>>> the name is there to catch attention, not to make sense or come up top
>>> on google search.
>>>
>>> In the end what it matters is the code itself.
>>>
>>> Ruby On Rails did not become populary because we love ruby stones or we
>>> love go "too...tooo" on rails ... its popular because the library has
>>> been very useful to many people.
>>>
>>> And the name itself guarantees that it wont come up top in google search
>>> because it has nothing unique about it.
>>>
>>> The rest is just marketing ;)
>>>
>>
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Ben Coman]

Not great but okay. i think we are at the point of "perfect is the enemy of
done".  There have been plenty of suitable suggestions, and its a topic
with high bike-shedding quotient, so you should just pick one you and the
man paying the bills are happy with.  Otherwise you'll get another round of
suggestions like these...
"phrem"  26k googs - pharo remote
"phremt" - 195 googs - pharo remote tools
"phremit" 225 googs - pharo remote integrated tools
"phremide" 5 googs - pharo remote ide

One thing to keep in mind though is that we can be as clever as we like
here in text, but you should imagine yourself saying it in front of a
lecture.

cheers -ben

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Denis Kudriashov 
wrote:

> Philippe invented new word Pharocket :). Maybe it is the best for this
> project?
>
>
> 2017-01-30 17:09 GMT+01:00 Dimitris Chloupis :
>
>> Also I think its fair that the guy that wrote the code to pick the name,
>> its his baby afterall, whether he is paid for it or not. He earned that
>> right.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 6:06 PM Dimitris Chloupis 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Just for the record, the name does not matter
>>>
>>> As a matter of fact if you want the name to really sell the library/
>>> tools then the last thing you want is a name that makes any logical sense
>>>
>>> You have much better chance to catch attention with "Pink Elephant" than
>>> "Pharo Remote tools" or whatever
>>>
>>> illogical names monopolise the software market
>>>
>>> Python
>>> Ruby on Rails
>>> Django
>>> Blender
>>> Unreal
>>> Unity
>>> Javascript
>>> Java
>>> C
>>> C++
>>> Windows
>>> MacOS
>>>
>>> and so on
>>>
>>> Developers choose to name their projects the craziest names and wisely so
>>>
>>> the name is there to catch attention, not to make sense or come up top
>>> on google search.
>>>
>>> In the end what it matters is the code itself.
>>>
>>> Ruby On Rails did not become populary because we love ruby stones or we
>>> love go "too...tooo" on rails ... its popular because the library has
>>> been very useful to many people.
>>>
>>> And the name itself guarantees that it wont come up top in google search
>>> because it has nothing unique about it.
>>>
>>> The rest is just marketing ;)
>>>
>>
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Denis Kudriashov]

Philippe invented new word Pharocket :). Maybe it is the best for this
project?


2017-01-30 17:09 GMT+01:00 Dimitris Chloupis :

> Also I think its fair that the guy that wrote the code to pick the name,
> its his baby afterall, whether he is paid for it or not. He earned that
> right.
>
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 6:06 PM Dimitris Chloupis 
> wrote:
>
>> Just for the record, the name does not matter
>>
>> As a matter of fact if you want the name to really sell the library/
>> tools then the last thing you want is a name that makes any logical sense
>>
>> You have much better chance to catch attention with "Pink Elephant" than
>> "Pharo Remote tools" or whatever
>>
>> illogical names monopolise the software market
>>
>> Python
>> Ruby on Rails
>> Django
>> Blender
>> Unreal
>> Unity
>> Javascript
>> Java
>> C
>> C++
>> Windows
>> MacOS
>>
>> and so on
>>
>> Developers choose to name their projects the craziest names and wisely so
>>
>> the name is there to catch attention, not to make sense or come up top on
>> google search.
>>
>> In the end what it matters is the code itself.
>>
>> Ruby On Rails did not become populary because we love ruby stones or we
>> love go "too...tooo" on rails ... its popular because the library has
>> been very useful to many people.
>>
>> And the name itself guarantees that it wont come up top in google search
>> because it has nothing unique about it.
>>
>> The rest is just marketing ;)
>>
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Dimitris Chloupis]

Also I think its fair that the guy that wrote the code to pick the name,
its his baby afterall, whether he is paid for it or not. He earned that
right.

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 6:06 PM Dimitris Chloupis 
wrote:

> Just for the record, the name does not matter
>
> As a matter of fact if you want the name to really sell the library/ tools
> then the last thing you want is a name that makes any logical sense
>
> You have much better chance to catch attention with "Pink Elephant" than
> "Pharo Remote tools" or whatever
>
> illogical names monopolise the software market
>
> Python
> Ruby on Rails
> Django
> Blender
> Unreal
> Unity
> Javascript
> Java
> C
> C++
> Windows
> MacOS
>
> and so on
>
> Developers choose to name their projects the craziest names and wisely so
>
> the name is there to catch attention, not to make sense or come up top on
> google search.
>
> In the end what it matters is the code itself.
>
> Ruby On Rails did not become populary because we love ruby stones or we
> love go "too...tooo" on rails ... its popular because the library has
> been very useful to many people.
>
> And the name itself guarantees that it wont come up top in google search
> because it has nothing unique about it.
>
> The rest is just marketing ;)
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Dimitris Chloupis]

Just for the record, the name does not matter

As a matter of fact if you want the name to really sell the library/ tools
then the last thing you want is a name that makes any logical sense

You have much better chance to catch attention with "Pink Elephant" than
"Pharo Remote tools" or whatever

illogical names monopolise the software market

Python
Ruby on Rails
Django
Blender
Unreal
Unity
Javascript
Java
C
C++
Windows
MacOS

and so on

Developers choose to name their projects the craziest names and wisely so

the name is there to catch attention, not to make sense or come up top on
google search.

In the end what it matters is the code itself.

Ruby On Rails did not become populary because we love ruby stones or we
love go "too...tooo" on rails ... its popular because the library has
been very useful to many people.

And the name itself guarantees that it wont come up top in google search
because it has nothing unique about it.

The rest is just marketing ;)

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Norbert Hartl]

> Am 30.01.2017 um 16:21 schrieb Ben Coman :
> 
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 9:32 PM, Norbert Hartl  wrote:
>> 
>>> Am 30.01.2017 um 14:21 schrieb Ben Coman :
>>> 
>>> But I agree with Stef.  My very first impression when I read the ANN
>>> subject line was of a pharmaceutical/medical app.  Maybe a slight
>>> contraction to "PharIDE", which in common usage would probably become
>>> "pharide". Only 6k googs is not too bad.
>>> 
>>> btw, what is the "m" for in PharmIDE ?
> 
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 9:25 PM, Denis Kudriashov  
> wrote:
>> 
>> 2017-01-30 14:21 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman :
>>> 
>>> btw, what is the "m" for in PharmIDE ?
>> 
>> 
>> First it is like farm.
>> Seconds it is Pharo Remote IDE
> 
> 
>> 
>> It is not an acronym per se but a variation of farm. So it is pharo farm. 
>> PharIDE just kills it. In this case something else would be better.
> 
> Instead you get Far-IDE.
> 
> But I do like the "farm" association.  So perhaps...
> * Pharrem
> which *sounds* like "farm" said real-slow like a farmer's drawl,
> while avoiding the pharmaceutical association.
> 
> The two R's avoid it sounding like "fa-Rem".
> 
> The "rem" part associates more easily with "remote" than when the "e"
> is dropped.
> 
We are talking about a technology for distributed stuff. I assume that anyone 
working in that area associates the term farm with a lot of things to manage. 
And that is what it does. If they are old enough the might even get the ph-pun 
(like in phreaking [1]). Maybe that is the reason I like it. Putting a lot of 
meaning in a term has most of the time no outcome because people cannot see the 
meaning you've put in. Recognizable terms are indeed a plus because it is just 
seeing it and knowing it from somewhere else. 
Or you could (like Brad said) use a clear name that describes what it does. The 
problem here is that you cannot find it on the net among those other things 
that describe clearly the same. 
And I'm against cool fantasy names like we have to many in pharo. They just 
produce confusion. 

And that is my last mail on this topic. I knew it was wrong participating in 
that thread :)

Norbert

[1] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phreaking 

> cheers -ben
> 
>> 
>> Norbert
>> 
>>> 
>>> cheers -ben
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 9:15 PM, p...@highoctane.be  
>>> wrote:
 Like it too FWIW.
 
 Phil
 
 On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Denis Kudriashov 
 wrote:
> 
> 
> 2017-01-30 12:04 GMT+01:00 Norbert Hartl :
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I really enjoy how motivated people get when it is about finding a name
>> :)
>> 
>> I don't agree PharmIDE is a bad name.
> 
> 
> I also like my original name :)
 
 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Ben Coman]

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 9:32 PM, Norbert Hartl  wrote:
>
>> Am 30.01.2017 um 14:21 schrieb Ben Coman :
>>
>> But I agree with Stef.  My very first impression when I read the ANN
>> subject line was of a pharmaceutical/medical app.  Maybe a slight
>> contraction to "PharIDE", which in common usage would probably become
>> "pharide". Only 6k googs is not too bad.
>>
>> btw, what is the "m" for in PharmIDE ?

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 9:25 PM, Denis Kudriashov  wrote:
>
> 2017-01-30 14:21 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman :
>>
>> btw, what is the "m" for in PharmIDE ?
>
>
> First it is like farm.
> Seconds it is Pharo Remote IDE


>
> It is not an acronym per se but a variation of farm. So it is pharo farm. 
> PharIDE just kills it. In this case something else would be better.

Instead you get Far-IDE.

But I do like the "farm" association.  So perhaps...
* Pharrem
which *sounds* like "farm" said real-slow like a farmer's drawl,
while avoiding the pharmaceutical association.

The two R's avoid it sounding like "fa-Rem".

The "rem" part associates more easily with "remote" than when the "e"
is dropped.

cheers -ben

>
> Norbert
>
>>
>> cheers -ben
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 9:15 PM, p...@highoctane.be  
>> wrote:
>>> Like it too FWIW.
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Denis Kudriashov 
>>> wrote:


 2017-01-30 12:04 GMT+01:00 Norbert Hartl :
>
> Hi,
>
> I really enjoy how motivated people get when it is about finding a name
> :)
>
> I don't agree PharmIDE is a bad name.


 I also like my original name :)
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Esteban A. Maringolo]

+1 to simple names.

Pharo Remote.
No accronym involved, no lookup to know what it means.

A remote it also a noun, i.e. something you use to control your TV remotely :D

If you want more details... Pharo Remote Toolkit.
Tools is too abstract, toolkit is a set of tools meant to work
together o a particular kind of task..


Best regards,

Esteban A. Maringolo


2017-01-30 12:08 GMT-03:00 Volkert :
> +100
>
>
> On 30.01.2017 15:31, Brad Selfridge wrote:
>
> I'm not a big fan of cryptic names. I already think there are way too many
> in Pharo. You look at the names and have no idea what they do. Why not call
> it what it is: "Pharo Remote IDE" or "RemoteIDE".  It's simple and it tells
> the user EXACTLY what it is without digging into some obscure document, (or
> no document at all).
>
>
> --
> Brad Selfridge
> bsselfri...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> On 01/30/2017 08:25 AM, Denis Kudriashov wrote:
>
>
> 2017-01-30 14:21 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman :
>>
>> btw, what is the "m" for in PharmIDE ?
>
>
> First it is like farm.
> Seconds it is Pharo Remote IDE
>
>
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Volkert]

+100


On 30.01.2017 15:31, Brad Selfridge wrote:
>
> I'm not a big fan of cryptic names. I already think there are way too
> many in Pharo. You look at the names and have no idea what they do.
> Why not call it what it is: "Pharo Remote IDE" or "RemoteIDE".  It's
> simple and it tells the user EXACTLY what it is without digging into
> some obscure document, (or no document at all).
>
>
> -- 
> Brad Selfridge
> bsselfri...@gmail.com
>
>
> On 01/30/2017 08:25 AM, Denis Kudriashov wrote:
>>
>> 2017-01-30 14:21 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman > >:
>>
>> btw, what is the "m" for in PharmIDE ?
>>
>>
>> First it is like farm.
>> Seconds it is *Pha*ro *R*e*m*ote IDE 
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Brad Selfridge]

I'm not a big fan of cryptic names. I already think there are way too 
many in Pharo. You look at the names and have no idea what they do. Why 
not call it what it is: "Pharo Remote IDE" or "RemoteIDE".  It's simple 
and it tells the user EXACTLY what it is without digging into some 
obscure document, (or no document at all).



--
Brad Selfridge
bsselfri...@gmail.com



On 01/30/2017 08:25 AM, Denis Kudriashov wrote:


2017-01-30 14:21 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman >:


btw, what is the "m" for in PharmIDE ?


First it is like farm.
Seconds it is *Pha*ro *R*e*m*ote IDE

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Thierry Goubier]

2017-01-30 14:15 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman :

> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 10:14 PM, stepharong  wrote:
> > Hi guys
> >
> > Since we will push the remote tools (videos/web...) I would like to get
> some
> > ideas for a cool name.
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Because Pharmide (looks like medicine or chemical product).
> > Since I vaguely remember some german Pharmide made me think about
> > Fern(sehen) but this is not a good name.
>
> * distann - derive from distantool, or distant tool.
> 2700 googs not too bad.
>
> * ansyble - derived from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ansible
> 90 googs rather than 3,130,000 googs for ansible
> and differentiates from competing project http://ansible.com


I vote for any name that has a relation to U.K. Le Guin books :)

3 miilions hits for a SF-invented word. Cool.

Regards,

Thierry


>
>
> cheers -ben
>
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Norbert Hartl]

> Am 30.01.2017 um 14:21 schrieb Ben Coman :
> 
> But I agree with Stef.  My very first impression when I read the ANN
> subject line was of a pharmaceutical/medical app.  Maybe a slight
> contraction to "PharIDE", which in common usage would probably become
> "pharide". Only 6k googs is not too bad.
> 
> btw, what is the "m" for in PharmIDE ?

It is not an acronym per se but a variation of farm. So it is pharo farm. 
PharIDE just kills it. In this case something else would be better.

Norbert

> 
> cheers -ben
> 
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 9:15 PM, p...@highoctane.be  
> wrote:
>> Like it too FWIW.
>> 
>> Phil
>> 
>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Denis Kudriashov 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2017-01-30 12:04 GMT+01:00 Norbert Hartl :
 
 Hi,
 
 I really enjoy how motivated people get when it is about finding a name
 :)
 
 I don't agree PharmIDE is a bad name.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I also like my original name :)
>> 
>> 
> 

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Denis Kudriashov]

2017-01-30 14:21 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman :

> btw, what is the "m" for in PharmIDE ?


First it is like farm.
Seconds it is *Pha*ro *R*e*m*ote IDE

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Ben Coman]

But I agree with Stef.  My very first impression when I read the ANN
subject line was of a pharmaceutical/medical app.  Maybe a slight
contraction to "PharIDE", which in common usage would probably become
"pharide". Only 6k googs is not too bad.

btw, what is the "m" for in PharmIDE ?

cheers -ben

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 9:15 PM, p...@highoctane.be  wrote:
> Like it too FWIW.
>
> Phil
>
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Denis Kudriashov 
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> 2017-01-30 12:04 GMT+01:00 Norbert Hartl :
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I really enjoy how motivated people get when it is about finding a name
>>> :)
>>>
>>> I don't agree PharmIDE is a bad name.
>>
>>
>> I also like my original name :)
>
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[p...@highoctane.be]

Like it too FWIW.

Phil

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Denis Kudriashov 
wrote:

>
> 2017-01-30 12:04 GMT+01:00 Norbert Hartl :
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I really enjoy how motivated people get when it is about finding a name :)
>>
>> I don't agree PharmIDE is a bad name.
>>
>
> I also like my original name :)
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Ben Coman]

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 10:14 PM, stepharong  wrote:
> Hi guys
>
> Since we will push the remote tools (videos/web...) I would like to get some
> ideas for a cool name.
> Any ideas?
>
> Because Pharmide (looks like medicine or chemical product).
> Since I vaguely remember some german Pharmide made me think about
> Fern(sehen) but this is not a good name.

* distann - derive from distantool, or distant tool.
2700 googs not too bad.

* ansyble - derived from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ansible
90 googs rather than 3,130,000 googs for ansible
and differentiates from competing project http://ansible.com

cheers -ben

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Guillermo Polito]

Avatools only gives ~2k results :)

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 1:55 PM, Ben Coman  wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 10:14 PM, stepharong  wrote:
> >
> > Hi guys
> >
> > Since we will push the remote tools (videos/web...) I would like to get
> some ideas for a cool name.
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Because Pharmide (looks like medicine or chemical product).
> > Since I vaguely remember some german Pharmide made me think about
> Fern(sehen) but this is not a good name.
>
>
> Following a theme of "superpower remote viewing"
>
>  * Clairvoi - derived from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clairvoyance
> 915 googs is not too bad
>
> * Psych - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychic projection
> 43,500,000 googs, not so good
>
> * ESP - Extra Sensory Pharo
> 265,000,000 googs, bleh!
>
> *  sckrii - derived from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrying
> 987 googs instead of 788,000 for Scry not too bad
>
> * astrrall - derived from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astral_projection
> 87 googs instead of 55,100,000 for astral not to bad, but perhaps
> trying a bit too hard
>
>
> And btw, at home I refer to my own personal superpowers as "telepathetic"
>
> cheers -ben
>
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Ben Coman]

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 10:14 PM, stepharong  wrote:
>
> Hi guys
>
> Since we will push the remote tools (videos/web...) I would like to get some 
> ideas for a cool name.
> Any ideas?
>
> Because Pharmide (looks like medicine or chemical product).
> Since I vaguely remember some german Pharmide made me think about Fern(sehen) 
> but this is not a good name.


Following a theme of "superpower remote viewing"

 * Clairvoi - derived from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clairvoyance
915 googs is not too bad

* Psych - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychic projection
43,500,000 googs, not so good

* ESP - Extra Sensory Pharo
265,000,000 googs, bleh!

*  sckrii - derived from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrying
987 googs instead of 788,000 for Scry not too bad

* astrrall - derived from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astral_projection
87 googs instead of 55,100,000 for astral not to bad, but perhaps
trying a bit too hard


And btw, at home I refer to my own personal superpowers as "telepathetic"

cheers -ben

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Denis Kudriashov]

2017-01-30 12:04 GMT+01:00 Norbert Hartl :

> Hi,
>
> I really enjoy how motivated people get when it is about finding a name :)
>
> I don't agree PharmIDE is a bad name.
>

I also like my original name :)

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Norbert Hartl]

Hi,

I really enjoy how motivated people get when it is about finding a name :)

I don't agree PharmIDE is a bad name. Farming is a well known term when it 
comes to server installations (server farm) or other distributed stuff. So as 
it is not your context you get another impression. People that are in the 
context (e.g. me ;) ) might think different. So while I agree it has a 
medicinal taste I like the name and I think we could coin the term more sincere 
for projects around pharo based farms.
So my gut feeling says that keeping the IDE could make sense. The term cloud is 
burnt so CloudIDE is maybe not good. A successor of this would be SwarmIDE if 
we need something that is still a bit trendy. But PharmIDE has its uniqueness 
and that is a surplus. Ok, I must confess I named some things for distributed 
infrastrature also with the prefix Pharm :)

Norbert

> Am 29.01.2017 um 15:14 schrieb stepharong :
> 
> Hi guys
> 
> Since we will push the remote tools (videos/web...) I would like to get some 
> ideas for a cool name.
> Any ideas?
> 
> Because Pharmide (looks like medicine or chemical product).
> Since I vaguely remember some german Pharmide made me think about Fern(sehen) 
> but this is not a good name.
> 
> Stef
> 
> 
> --
> 

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Guillaume Larcheveque]

Marionnetist

2017-01-30 10:34 GMT+01:00 James Ladd :

> Try
> https://www.penn.museum/documents/education/pennmuseum_egypt_previsit_
> combined.pdf
>
> Flail looks like a good candidate .
>
> Sent from my Commodore 64
>
> On 30 Jan 2017, at 11:06 am, Ben Coman  wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 10:14 PM, stepharong  wrote:
>
>> Hi guys
>>
>> Since we will push the remote tools (videos/web...) I would like to get
>> some ideas for a cool name.
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Because Pharmide (looks like medicine or chemical product).
>> Since I vaguely remember some german Pharmide made me think about
>> Fern(sehen) but this is not a good name.
>>
>>
>>
> For a change, I'm lacking original ideas :P
> But of other suggestions, I like...
>
> > Phresnel from Fresnel lenses [1] used in lighthouses to be visible over
> greater distances
> Good googability and a *great* fit for Pharo's lighthouse theme.
> There is one competing project https://github.com/lobid/Phresnel
> but it looks abandoned and ranks low in searches.
>
> > PharoAfar
> Except its a bit of a tongue twist and I'd shorten it to Pharofar, and
> maybe Pharophar.
> far = at, to, or by a great distance
>
> > Pharoscope from Pharo + Telescope
> Related terms: borescope, oscilloscope, spectroscope.
>
> So far Phresnel is my phavorite.
>
> cheers -ben
>
>


-- 
*Guillaume Larcheveque*

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[James Ladd]

Try 
https://www.penn.museum/documents/education/pennmuseum_egypt_previsit_combined.pdf

Flail looks like a good candidate .

Sent from my Commodore 64

> On 30 Jan 2017, at 11:06 am, Ben Coman  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 10:14 PM, stepharong  wrote:
>> Hi guys
>> 
>> Since we will push the remote tools (videos/web...) I would like to get some 
>> ideas for a cool name.
>> Any ideas?
>> 
>> Because Pharmide (looks like medicine or chemical product).
>> Since I vaguely remember some german Pharmide made me think about 
>> Fern(sehen) but this is not a good name.
>> 
>> 
> 
> For a change, I'm lacking original ideas :P
> But of other suggestions, I like...
> 
> > Phresnel from Fresnel lenses [1] used in lighthouses to be visible over 
> > greater distances
> Good googability and a *great* fit for Pharo's lighthouse theme.
> There is one competing project https://github.com/lobid/Phresnel
> but it looks abandoned and ranks low in searches.
> 
> > PharoAfar 
> Except its a bit of a tongue twist and I'd shorten it to Pharofar, and maybe 
> Pharophar.
> far = at, to, or by a great distance
> 
> > Pharoscope from Pharo + Telescope 
> Related terms: borescope, oscilloscope, spectroscope.
> 
> So far Phresnel is my phavorite.
> 
> cheers -ben

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Denis Kudriashov]

Remode

2017-01-30 10:27 GMT+01:00 Denis Kudriashov :

>
> 2017-01-29 22:16 GMT+01:00 Cyril Ferlicot D. :
>
>> RIDE? (Remote Integrated Development Environment)
>
>
> It is too common name for Robots IDE
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Denis Kudriashov]

2017-01-29 22:16 GMT+01:00 Cyril Ferlicot D. :

> RIDE? (Remote Integrated Development Environment)


It is too common name for Robots IDE

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Denis Kudriashov]

2017-01-30 10:03 GMT+01:00 Nicolai Hess :

> PharoRemoteToolSet


Pharoos which reminds russian word parus (sail in english). Or in same
meaning latin "Valum" or german Segel.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Denis Kudriashov]

2017-01-30 7:58 GMT+01:00 p...@highoctane.be :

> Codero
> Proxyion
> Proxemote
> Evade
> Reon
> ProxyCode
> Remoon
> Reode
> Phreode
> Remoteon
> CodeRemote
> EvaCode
> Remotion
> Drinx
> Phemote
> Smuggler
> BitSmuggler
>

That's the list :)

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Nicolai Hess]

PharoRemoteToolSet
 :)

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Nicolas Anquetil]

*telekinesis* (shorter? *Telekin*)

(And there is even an HowTo Develop Telekinesis ! 
http://www.wikihow.com/Develop-Telekinesis)



apparetnly sometimes abbreviated as PK (for psychokinesis)

so may be *PeeKay*


Or may be *Lucy* in reference to Luc Besson's movie?

oh whatever forget it all

nicolas

On 29/01/2017 21:52, Guillermo Polito wrote:

avatar, avatools?

Le 29 janv. 2017 20:01, "Torsten Bergmann" > a écrit :


Pharo "Revaluator"

which is an artificial word:
- "Re" for Remote
- "eval" like evaluation of expressions for (remote) work/debugging
- "Revalution" means improvement, increase in value

So far this name is not very much in use according to Google hits.

Thx
T.




--
Nicolas Anquetil -- MCF (HDR)
Project-Team RMod

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Pavel Krivanek]

Triton - a kind of shell used for blaring and a Greek mythological messenger
of the sea...

-- Pavel

2017-01-29 15:14 GMT+01:00 stepharong :

> Hi guys
>
> Since we will push the remote tools (videos/web...) I would like to get
> some ideas for a cool name.
> Any ideas?
>
> Because Pharmide (looks like medicine or chemical product).
> Since I vaguely remember some german Pharmide made me think about
> Fern(sehen) but this is not a good name.
>
> Stef
>
>
> --
>
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[p...@highoctane.be]

Codero
Proxyion
Proxemote
Evade
Reon
ProxyCode
Remoon
Reode
Phreode
Remoteon
CodeRemote
EvaCode
Remotion
Drinx
Phemote
Smuggler
BitSmuggler

Phil

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 4:27 PM, stepharong  wrote:

> On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 16:24:03 +0100, Dimitris Chloupis <
> kilon.al...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Apostasis (Greek for distance)
> Background ( playing with words Playground and back end )
> Parallax ( distance viewed from two point [eg eyes])
> Apex ( tip of)
> Outpost (distant place)
> HyperOcean ( another Greek word for a thing that can cross oceans , oceans
> here being surfing the Internet)
> Telemachus or Telemachos ( son of Odyssey, his name means in Ancient Greek
> , the one who fights from a distance , tale means distance , telephone =
> voice from a distance , television = vision from a distance etc. )
>
>
> may telepharo :)
>
> Stef
>
>
>
> On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 at 16:15, stepharong  wrote:
>
>> Hi guys
>>
>> Since we will push the remote tools (videos/web...) I would like to get
>> some ideas for a cool name.
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Because Pharmide (looks like medicine or chemical product).
>> Since I vaguely remember some german Pharmide made me think about
>> Fern(sehen) but this is not a good name.
>>
>> Stef
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Eliot Miranda]

I found myself thinking of those airtight boxes with gloves used in biology 
labs and that led to

Scissorhands 
Claw (as in Toy Story)

Less frivolous:
Extensor
Pert   (Pharo Extended with Remote Tools. pert
1. 
a. High-spirited, lively, or cheerful: A pert receptionist greets each client.
b. Impudently bold; saucy: He was pert to his teacher. She gave a pert answer.
2. 
a. Attractive or stylish in appearance: a pert hat.
b. Small or firm and well-formed: a pert nose.

and hence pert means sexy)

_,,,^..^,,,_ (phone)

> On Jan 29, 2017, at 4:06 PM, Ben Coman  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 10:14 PM, stepharong  wrote:
>> Hi guys
>> 
>> Since we will push the remote tools (videos/web...) I would like to get some 
>> ideas for a cool name.
>> Any ideas?
>> 
>> Because Pharmide (looks like medicine or chemical product).
>> Since I vaguely remember some german Pharmide made me think about 
>> Fern(sehen) but this is not a good name.
>> 
>> 
> 
> For a change, I'm lacking original ideas :P
> But of other suggestions, I like...
> 
> > Phresnel from Fresnel lenses [1] used in lighthouses to be visible over 
> > greater distances
> Good googability and a *great* fit for Pharo's lighthouse theme.
> There is one competing project https://github.com/lobid/Phresnel
> but it looks abandoned and ranks low in searches.
> 
> > PharoAfar 
> Except its a bit of a tongue twist and I'd shorten it to Pharofar, and maybe 
> Pharophar.
> far = at, to, or by a great distance
> 
> > Pharoscope from Pharo + Telescope 
> Related terms: borescope, oscilloscope, spectroscope.
> 
> So far Phresnel is my phavorite.
> 
> cheers -ben

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Ben Coman]

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 10:14 PM, stepharong  wrote:

> Hi guys
>
> Since we will push the remote tools (videos/web...) I would like to get
> some ideas for a cool name.
> Any ideas?
>
> Because Pharmide (looks like medicine or chemical product).
> Since I vaguely remember some german Pharmide made me think about
> Fern(sehen) but this is not a good name.
>
>
>
For a change, I'm lacking original ideas :P
But of other suggestions, I like...

> Phresnel from Fresnel lenses [1] used in lighthouses to be visible over
greater distances
Good googability and a *great* fit for Pharo's lighthouse theme.
There is one competing project https://github.com/lobid/Phresnel
but it looks abandoned and ranks low in searches.

> PharoAfar
Except its a bit of a tongue twist and I'd shorten it to Pharofar, and
maybe Pharophar.
far = at, to, or by a great distance

> Pharoscope from Pharo + Telescope
Related terms: borescope, oscilloscope, spectroscope.

So far Phresnel is my phavorite.

cheers -ben

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Rafael Luque]

My two cents...

* Pharoscope from Pharo + Telescope.
* Phresnel from Fresnel lenses [1] used in lighthouses to be visible over
greater distances.

[1] Fresnel lens: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fresnel_lens.




2017-01-29 22:16 GMT+01:00 Cyril Ferlicot D. :

> Le 29/01/2017 à 15:14, stepharong a écrit :
> > Hi guys
> >
> > Since we will push the remote tools (videos/web...) I would like to get
> > some ideas for a cool name.
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Because Pharmide (looks like medicine or chemical product).
> > Since I vaguely remember some german Pharmide made me think about
> > Fern(sehen) but this is not a good name.
> >
> > Stef
> >
> >
> > --
> >
>
> RIDE? (Remote Integrated Development Environment)
>
> --
> Cyril Ferlicot
>
> http://www.synectique.eu
>
> 2 rue Jacques Prévert 01,
> 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France
>
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Cyril Ferlicot D.]

Le 29/01/2017 à 15:14, stepharong a écrit :
> Hi guys
> 
> Since we will push the remote tools (videos/web...) I would like to get
> some ideas for a cool name.
> Any ideas?
> 
> Because Pharmide (looks like medicine or chemical product).
> Since I vaguely remember some german Pharmide made me think about
> Fern(sehen) but this is not a good name.
> 
> Stef
> 
> 
> -- 
> 

RIDE? (Remote Integrated Development Environment)

-- 
Cyril Ferlicot

http://www.synectique.eu

2 rue Jacques Prévert 01,
59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France



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Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Guillermo Polito]

avatar, avatools?

Le 29 janv. 2017 20:01, "Torsten Bergmann"  a écrit :

> Pharo "Revaluator"
>
> which is an artificial word:
> - "Re" for Remote
> - "eval" like evaluation of expressions for (remote) work/debugging
> - "Revalution" means improvement, increase in value
>
> So far this name is not very much in use according to Google hits.
>
> Thx
> T.
>
>
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Torsten Bergmann]

Pharo "Revaluator"

which is an artificial word:
- "Re" for Remote
- "eval" like evaluation of expressions for (remote) work/debugging
- "Revalution" means improvement, increase in value

So far this name is not very much in use according to Google hits.

Thx
T. 

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Brad]

RemoPharo.  Short for remote Pharo.

Brad Selfridge
913-269-2385

> On Jan 29, 2017, at 11:26 AM, Graham McLeod  wrote:
> 
> OR better: TeleCode
> 
> Graham
> 
> Graham McLeod wrote:
>> How about PharoAfar
>> 
>> g
>> 
>> stepharong wrote:
>>> Hi guys
>>> 
>>> Since we will push the remote tools (videos/web...) I would like to get 
>>> some ideas for a cool name.
>>> Any ideas?
>>> 
>>> Because Pharmide (looks like medicine or chemical product).
>>> Since I vaguely remember some german Pharmide made me think about 
>>> Fern(sehen) but this is not a good name.
>>> 
>>> Stef
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Graham McLeod]

OR better: TeleCode

Graham

Graham McLeod wrote:

How about PharoAfar

g

stepharong wrote:

Hi guys

Since we will push the remote tools (videos/web...) I would like to 
get some ideas for a cool name.

Any ideas?

Because Pharmide (looks like medicine or chemical product).
Since I vaguely remember some german Pharmide made me think about 
Fern(sehen) but this is not a good name.


Stef


--






<>

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[stepharong]

On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 16:40:07 +0100, Volkert  wrote:


PharoConnect?



It would convey the mean to connect ?




On 29.01.2017 15:14, stepharong wrote:

Hi guys

Since we will push the remote tools (videos/web...) I would like to
get some ideas for a cool name.
Any ideas?

Because Pharmide (looks like medicine or chemical product).
Since I vaguely remember some german Pharmide made me think about
Fern(sehen) but this is not a good name.

Stef


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Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Volkert]

PharoConnect?


On 29.01.2017 15:14, stepharong wrote:
> Hi guys
>
> Since we will push the remote tools (videos/web...) I would like to
> get some ideas for a cool name.
> Any ideas?
>
> Because Pharmide (looks like medicine or chemical product).
> Since I vaguely remember some german Pharmide made me think about
> Fern(sehen) but this is not a good name.
>
> Stef
>
>
> -- 
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[stepharong]

Hi  Graham


How about PharoAfar

g


can you explain it?



stepharong wrote:

Hi guys

Since we will push the remote tools (videos/web...) I would like to
get some ideas for a cool name.
Any ideas?

Because Pharmide (looks like medicine or chemical product).
Since I vaguely remember some german Pharmide made me think about
Fern(sehen) but this is not a good name.

Stef


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Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[stepharong]

On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 16:24:03 +0100, Dimitris Chloupis  
 wrote:



Apostasis (Greek for distance)
Background ( playing with words Playground and back end )Parallax (  
distance viewed from two point [eg eyes])Apex ( tip of)Outpost (distant  
place)HyperOcean ( another Greek word for a thing that can cross oceans  
, oceans here being surfing the Internet)Telemachus or Telemachos ( son  
of Odyssey, his name means in Ancient Greek , the one who fights from a  
distance , tale means distance , telephone = voice from a distance ,  
television = vision >from a distance etc. )


may telepharo :)

Stef




On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 at 16:15, stepharong  wrote:

Hi guys

Since we will push the remote tools (videos/web...) I would like to get
some ideas for a cool name.
Any ideas?

Because Pharmide (looks like medicine or chemical product).
Since I vaguely remember some german Pharmide made me think about
Fern(sehen) but this is not a good name.

Stef


--





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Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Dimitris Chloupis]

Apostasis (Greek for distance)
Background ( playing with words Playground and back end )
Parallax ( distance viewed from two point [eg eyes])
Apex ( tip of)
Outpost (distant place)
HyperOcean ( another Greek word for a thing that can cross oceans , oceans
here being surfing the Internet)
Telemachus or Telemachos ( son of Odyssey, his name means in Ancient Greek
, the one who fights from a distance , tale means distance , telephone =
voice from a distance , television = vision from a distance etc. )

On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 at 16:15, stepharong  wrote:

> Hi guys
>
> Since we will push the remote tools (videos/web...) I would like to get
> some ideas for a cool name.
> Any ideas?
>
> Because Pharmide (looks like medicine or chemical product).
> Since I vaguely remember some german Pharmide made me think about
> Fern(sehen) but this is not a good name.
>
> Stef
>
>
> --
>
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[Graham McLeod]

How about PharoAfar

g

stepharong wrote:

Hi guys

Since we will push the remote tools (videos/web...) I would like to 
get some ideas for a cool name.

Any ideas?

Because Pharmide (looks like medicine or chemical product).
Since I vaguely remember some german Pharmide made me think about 
Fern(sehen) but this is not a good name.


Stef


--




<>

[Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

[stepharong]

Hi guys

Since we will push the remote tools (videos/web...) I would like to get  
some ideas for a cool name.

Any ideas?

Because Pharmide (looks like medicine or chemical product).
Since I vaguely remember some german Pharmide made me think about  
Fern(sehen) but this is not a good name.


Stef


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