Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons
François wrote:
I don't really care what they look like but if there is a way to exend this
area with a plugin or completely remove it from the layout, the one posting
how to do it will get a beer/coffee in Cambridge this summer.
Ah, that’s easy.
There is only one sender of
buildTextAreaButtonsColumn:
so, if you do
{ sourceCodePanel.
self buildTextAreaButtonsColumn: aWindow} reverse do: [:each
| sourceCodeContainer addMorph: each].
in NautilusUIaddAll:
instead of
{ sourceCodePanel.
self buildTextAreaButtonsColumn: aWindow} reverse do: [:each |
sourceCodeContainer addMorph: each].
they are gone.
Putting them into a plugin is left as an exercise for the reader.
Stephan
Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons
I must confess that I never use those buttons but yours doesn’t look broken so, yes: +1 On Mar 28, 2014, at 1:57 PM, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: Hello guys, since I do not really like the new buttons introduced in Nautilus, and since the previous one were broken, I propose this new set of buttons based on the eclipse theme. Nautilus new buttons.png closeup.png Tell me what you think about it :) Ben
Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons
I like the buttons but the interface image can be confusing (not just mean “interface” in java, but we use a slightly modified version for mark traits). Also in color it looks like too strong for me. Using the gray version as suggested before in the thread can be a good solution (even if it has other problems :P) Esteban On 30 Mar 2014, at 11:32, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote:
Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons
Same for me, I never use them. I don't really care what they look like but if there is a way to exend this area with a plugin or completely remove it from the layout, the one posting how to do it will get a beer/coffee in Cambridge this summer. On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: I must confess that I never use those buttons but yours doesn’t look broken so, yes: +1 On Mar 28, 2014, at 1:57 PM, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: Hello guys, since I do not really like the new buttons introduced in Nautilus, and since the previous one were broken, I propose this new set of buttons based on the eclipse theme. Nautilus new buttons.png closeup.png Tell me what you think about it :) Ben
Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons
It was supposed to be a plugin at the beginning, then some laziness happened, and it is not a plugin (yet) :) It also adds a lot of complexity in the morphic layout to manage this, but it’s doable :) Ben On 30 Mar 2014, at 21:29, François Stephany tulipe.mouta...@gmail.com wrote: Same for me, I never use them. I don't really care what they look like but if there is a way to exend this area with a plugin or completely remove it from the layout, the one posting how to do it will get a beer/coffee in Cambridge this summer. On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: I must confess that I never use those buttons but yours doesn’t look broken so, yes: +1 On Mar 28, 2014, at 1:57 PM, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: Hello guys, since I do not really like the new buttons introduced in Nautilus, and since the previous one were broken, I propose this new set of buttons based on the eclipse theme. Nautilus new buttons.png closeup.png Tell me what you think about it :) Ben
Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 Mar 2014, at 23:16, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: Really? What was wrong with the old one? They look 70' :) And the B button misses a butt :) Ah, yet another effect of introducing a new compiler without decompiling abilities... Phil Ben
Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons
I’m a bit confused here. I get the impression that people are reacting here on the old buttons, not the current ones. At least in the issue comments Phil is, and I got the impression Torsten is too. Please be clear in your comments where you are referring to. Stephan
Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons
It looks nice but I don't think there are right because they are not really informative. Color scheme is strange why purple and green? Then byte code is not really bits. The old ones are just more informative althought not as nice. Hilaire Le 28/03/2014 17:57, Benjamin a écrit : Hello guys, since I do not really like the new buttons introduced in Nautilus, and since the previous one were broken, I propose this new set of buttons based on the eclipse theme. -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu
Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons
Le 29/03/2014 10:08, p...@highoctane.be a écrit : Ah, yet another effect of introducing a new compiler without decompiling abilities... Ouch! -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu
Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons
Nice. To make them perfect - The I and C are too dominant. Perhaps have the c use the green from ’tricky asserting’ and the I a bit more pastel? Something that looks a bit more washed out like the theme? Stephan
Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons
hi Benjamin, I really like them better than the current UI mess regarding the right toolbar in Nautilus and would like to see them changed before for the release. But the I icon means (Java) interface in Eclipse and the button in Pharo is for instance variables. The C icon means (Java) class in Eclipse/Java and the button in Pharo is for class variables. That may confuse people coming from Eclipse world. Thx T. Gesendet: Freitag, 28. März 2014 um 17:57 Uhr Von: Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com An: Pharo Development List pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org Betreff: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons Hello guys, since I do not really like the new buttons introduced in Nautilus, and since the previous one were broken, I propose this new set of buttons based on the eclipse theme. Tell me what you think about it :) Ben
Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons
On 28 Mar 2014, at 18:24, MartinW w...@fastmail.fm wrote: Just out of curiosity (this is not a rhetoric question, i just don't know it) - when should i look at the byte code? That’s a good question :) I usually look at byte code when I have strange compilation errors. And are there enough use cases to justify such a very prominent place in the UI? I do not know if it needs such an important place, that’s true. Maybe we should think about it for Pharo 4.0 :) Ben
Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons
Just out of curiosity (this is not a rhetoric question, i just don't know it) - when should i look at the bytecode? And are there enough use cases to justify such a very prominent place in the UI? Or would a place in the context menu be enough? Or a plugin, if there are people - like compiler developers - who need these buttons on a regular basis? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/New-Nautilus-side-bar-buttons-tp4751455p4751461.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons
Beautiful. Thank you ! But how dare you propose a change, please stop contributing, I hate people who actually do stuff ;-) On 28 Mar 2014, at 17:57, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: Hello guys, since I do not really like the new buttons introduced in Nautilus, and since the previous one were broken, I propose this new set of buttons based on the eclipse theme. Nautilus new buttons.png closeup.png Tell me what you think about it :) Ben
Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons
On 28 Mar 2014, at 19:31, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Beautiful. Thank you ! Thanks :) But how dare you propose a change, please stop contributing, I hate people who actually do stuff ;-) The question is not about people doing things, it’s about introducing things that are not fixes or critical. Of it is decided to not integrate this in 3.0, I am totally fine with it as the buttons work (even if they look bad). Ben
Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons
On 28 Mar 2014, at 19:35, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: But how dare you propose a change, please stop contributing, I hate people who actually do stuff ;-) The question is not about people doing things, it’s about introducing things that are not fixes or critical. Of it is decided to not integrate this in 3.0, I am totally fine with it as the buttons work (even if they look bad). Well, I am seriously pissed off by the latest discussion, can't you tell ?
Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons
Benjamin wrote since I do not really like the new buttons introduced in Nautilus, and since the previous one were broken, I propose this new set of buttons based on the eclipse theme. Would you be so kind to explain what you do not like about them, and compare to both the earlier ones and this proposal? - I don’t like that they don’t adapt good enough to the chosen theme, they only fit with the Pharo3Theme; - I don’t like that they do not show well that S and B provide two mutually exclusive views while I and C provide direct actions; - I don’t like that they don’t show well when they can be used; - I don’t iike that S and B don’t show the current state well - I don’t like that you need the help text on hover to understand what they are for. - I don’t like the alignment. This browser I look at so much, it deserves to have the letters aligned vertically correctly (visually, so C a few pixels to the left, I to the right); The main advantages they have in my opinion are: - They fit the theme; - They take much less attention away from the contents. Stephan
Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons
On 28 Mar 2014, at 23:16, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: Really? What was wrong with the old one? They look 70’ :) And the B button misses a butt :) Ben
Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons
On 28 Mar 2014, at 17:57, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: Hello guys, since I do not really like the new buttons introduced in Nautilus, and since the previous one were broken, I propose this new set of buttons based on the eclipse theme. Nautilus new buttons.png closeup.png Tell me what you think about it :) much nicer! Tx Ben
