Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Migrated Artefact to GitHub

[Norbert Hartl]

I really like when I read projects are safed from
smalltalkhub. It makes everything so much more manageable

> Am 10.10.2018 um 16:59 schrieb Cyril Ferlicot :
> 
>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 4:37 PM Sean P. DeNigris  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Sean P. DeNigris wrote
>>> I migrated the
>>> repo with the hopes that someone in the pharo-contributions organization
>>> will copy it.
>>> [snip]
>>> https://github.com/seandenigris/Artefact
>> 
>> Bump. Anyone? I will do it if you add me to pharo-contributions…
>> 
> 
> Hi Sean,
> 
> Apparently we both moved Artefact to github at the same time.
> 
> This repo contains the project: 
> https://github.com/pharo-contributions/Artefact
> 
> It has:
> - Migrated sources
> - A new Baseline
> - I also moved Stylesheet to github
> - I updated the dependency to Units to point to the one of Zweidenker
> - Guille fixed the streams problem
> 
> Now we have only one Pharo 7 test failing. I wanted to correct it
> before releasing.
> 
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> Cheers,
>> Sean
>> --
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>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cyril Ferlicot
> https://ferlicot.fr
> 

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Migrated Artefact to GitHub

[Sean P. DeNigris]

CyrilFerlicot wrote
> This repo contains the project:
> https://github.com/pharo-contributions/Artefact

Great! Mine is now deleted.



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Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Migrated Artefact to GitHub

[Cyril Ferlicot]

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 4:37 PM Sean P. DeNigris  wrote:
>
> Sean P. DeNigris wrote
> > I migrated the
> > repo with the hopes that someone in the pharo-contributions organization
> > will copy it.
> > [snip]
> > https://github.com/seandenigris/Artefact
>
> Bump. Anyone? I will do it if you add me to pharo-contributions…
>

Hi Sean,

Apparently we both moved Artefact to github at the same time.

This repo contains the project: https://github.com/pharo-contributions/Artefact

It has:
- Migrated sources
- A new Baseline
- I also moved Stylesheet to github
- I updated the dependency to Units to point to the one of Zweidenker
- Guille fixed the streams problem

Now we have only one Pharo 7 test failing. I wanted to correct it
before releasing.

>
>
> -
> Cheers,
> Sean
> --
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>


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Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Migrated Artefact to GitHub

[Sean P. DeNigris]

Sean P. DeNigris wrote
> I migrated the
> repo with the hopes that someone in the pharo-contributions organization
> will copy it.
> [snip]
> https://github.com/seandenigris/Artefact

Bump. Anyone? I will do it if you add me to pharo-contributions…



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Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Migrated Artefact to GitHub

[Ben Coman]

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 02:27, Sean P. DeNigris  wrote:

> What do you think about Ben's post (paraphrased) that "canonical" doesn't
> mean much in the git/GH world?


I'm happy with that paraphrasing but just to make a fine distinction.
I think the canonical repo is still important, particularly regarding
author rights,
but its not important that its the only copy.
Its a balance between author rights and community rights.
Apart from purely philanthropic reasons, software is open sourced to get
community involvement.
Users that invest time and effort using of open source software can be
argued to have "some" rights
regarding continuity of access and ease of collaboration. I think its this
need that repo copies fill.


On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 05:06, Sean P. DeNigris  wrote:

> Ben Coman wrote
> >> In this case, to get the ball rolling would it be possible to create
> >>> under one's own user account
> >> and then transfer to ownership the appropriate entity?
> >>
> > That seems reasonable.  It should be simple to later fork that repo under
> > Pharo-contributions.
>
> Firstly, I have to, as Dale says, "Eat my hat" because this is the first
> time using the migration tool was *not* straightforward! It fell over
> several times due to PDFDocument's comment. First, there was some weird
> non-text, and then a non-ascii character (asciiValue = 8230). Anyway, to
> hopefully prevent any further non-productive conversation, I migrated the
> repo with the hopes that someone in the pharo-contributions organization
> will copy it. I didn't "Transfer" it because after reading the docs, there
> is some internal redirect mechanism instead of a real "move" and e.g. I
> will
> then not be able to have a fork with that name. After it has been pushed to
> the new remote, let me know and I will delete mine.
>
> https://github.com/seandenigris/Artefact


Thanks Sean.

cheers -ben

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Migrated Artefact to GitHub

[Sean P. DeNigris]

Ben Coman wrote
>> In this case, to get the ball rolling would it be possible to create
>>> under one's own user account
>> and then transfer to ownership the appropriate entity?
>>
> That seems reasonable.  It should be simple to later fork that repo under
> Pharo-contributions.

Firstly, I have to, as Dale says, "Eat my hat" because this is the first
time using the migration tool was *not* straightforward! It fell over
several times due to PDFDocument's comment. First, there was some weird
non-text, and then a non-ascii character (asciiValue = 8230). Anyway, to
hopefully prevent any further non-productive conversation, I migrated the
repo with the hopes that someone in the pharo-contributions organization
will copy it. I didn't "Transfer" it because after reading the docs, there
is some internal redirect mechanism instead of a real "move" and e.g. I will
then not be able to have a fork with that name. After it has been pushed to
the new remote, let me know and I will delete mine.

https://github.com/seandenigris/Artefact



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Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Migrated Artefact to GitHub

[Sean P. DeNigris]

Peter Uhnak wrote
> pharo-contribs seems like the best choice

The issue with that is that I didn't see a way for me to add a repo under
that organization, leading me to believe that we would create a bottleneck
like that of integration where all progress depends on a few gatekeepers.
What do you think about Ben's post (paraphrased) that "canonical" doesn't
mean much in the git/GH world?



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Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Migrated Artefact to GitHub

[Ben Coman]

On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 at 23:21, Peter Uhnak  wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 4:55 PM Sean P. DeNigris 
> wrote:
>
>> Guillermo Polito wrote
>> > when somebody migrates the repository.
>>
>> Who has access to the Pharo-contributions GH organization? Is that the
>> "go-to" repository for this case? I'm not often clear about under which GH
>> user/org something should be ported if one is not the owner. Do we have a
>> policy?
>
>


> In this case, to get the ball rolling would it be possible to create
>> under one's own user account
>
> and then transfer to ownership the appropriate entity?
>
>
That seems reasonable.  It should be simple to later fork that repo under
Pharo-contributions.


>
> If the project is actively maintained, then please ask the maintainer
> (e.g. I'm waiting for monty to respond to my offer to migrate XMLParser).
>
> Migrating it under your own account is sending signal to the community "I
> am going to take care and MAINTAIN this project.".
> Unless that is your intention, then pharo-contribs seems like the best
> choice. Unlike the old approach it is easy for anyone to contribute with
> pull requests without having to wait for access rights or whatnot.
>

I may be out of line, but in this era of super-simple forking (e.g. on
github), I feel the rules have evolved.
Over time I've encountered several projects having "This is a mirror of
 at  (e.g. some svn repo)"
as the first line of their README.md - perhaps in bold or red.  Pointing to
the location of the canonical repo
always seemed to me to be reasonable attribution and indication of where
care and maintenance is focused.

cheers -ben

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Migrated Artefact to GitHub

[Peter Uhnak]

On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 4:55 PM Sean P. DeNigris 
wrote:

> Guillermo Polito wrote
> > when somebody migrates the repository.
>
> Who has access to the Pharo-contributions GH organization? Is that the
> "go-to" repository for this case? I'm not often clear about under which GH
> user/org something should be ported if one is not the owner. Do we have a
> policy? In this case, to get the ball rolling would it be possible to
> create
> under one's own user account and then transfer to ownership the appropriate
> entity?


If the project is actively maintained, then please ask the maintainer (e.g.
I'm waiting for monty to respond to my offer to migrate XMLParser).

Migrating it under your own account is sending signal to the community "I
am going to take care and MAINTAIN this project.".
Unless that is your intention, then pharo-contribs seems like the best
choice. Unlike the old approach it is easy for anyone to contribute with
pull requests without having to wait for access rights or whatnot.

Peter

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Migrated Artefact to GitHub

[Sean P. DeNigris]

Guillermo Polito wrote
> when somebody migrates the repository.

Who has access to the Pharo-contributions GH organization? Is that the
"go-to" repository for this case? I'm not often clear about under which GH
user/org something should be ported if one is not the owner. Do we have a
policy? In this case, to get the ball rolling would it be possible to create
under one's own user account and then transfer to ownership the appropriate
entity?



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Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Migrated Artefact to GitHub

[Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas]

Hi,

Hopefully someone will do it soon, because we are just starting our
second week of "Visualizar 2018"[1] in Medialab Prado, a intesive two
weeks data visualization prototyping meeting and we'll iterate on our
Data Selfies project using Pharo, Grafoscopio and agile visualization[2]
and something like Artifact would be handy to compose the final custom
visualization[3] this week.

[1] https://www.medialab-prado.es/programas/visualizar18-datos-personales
[2] https://docutopia.tupale.co/vis18:dataselfies#
[3] https://docutopia.tupale.co/HbIK-fjrRlyZt2en0Nf2Qw#

So as soon as someone has a repository with a readme to install
Artifact, let me know ;-).

Cheers,

Offray


On 10/1/18 8:06 AM, Guillermo Polito wrote:
> But this was really not against you Norbert, so really no apologies
> are needed :), that's why I said that "I hope nobody thinks like that".
> I should apologize for reacting in that case ^^.
>
> The thing is that it can be frustrating to send an email and see that
> lots of people focus on something negative or how non-perfect it is :).
> And I feel that if that energy spent on criticizing was put on
> collaborating, we could have something much better!
>
> I've checked my disk and I still have a copy of the repository.
> But I've decided I'll post my changes as a Pull Request when somebody
> migrates the repository.
>
> Guille
>
> On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 10:32 AM Norbert Hartl  > wrote:
>
> I think I need to apologize. I did not see how my mail could be
> read. I would never accuse you of taking ownership of something
> you did not do. Because I know you wouldn‘t do something like
> that. It just makes me wonder that you don‘t know me good enough
> to know that I would not accuse you of that. I was referring to
> the removal of prior contributions.
> Anyway the way I wrote it was unfortunate and my apologies again.
>
> I don‘t need to write much more because I can subscribe myself to
> everything Peter said. We should not asking for contributions if
> we don‘t treat them as something valuable.
>
> Of course nobody has time to do stuff. But in this case we have a
> tool that costs only a couple of minutes and saves a lot stuff of
> value. So I didn‘t mean you have to do it but someone. And I just
> wanted to be to consider using the git migration tool in th
> future. There was no need to kill your repo because the history
> can be added and your changes can be rebased on that. That is what
> git gives us.
>
> And finally I‘m asking everone to take care. I need to take care
> more about what I write. But people that get easily offended
> should see that is the other part of the problem.
>
> Norbert
>
> > Am 29.09.2018 um 01:13 schrieb Cyril Ferlicot D.
> mailto:cyril.ferli...@gmail.com>>:
> >
> >> Le 29/09/2018 à 01:05, Guillermo Polito a écrit :
> >> I'm sorry if I offended somebody. I've deleted the repository
> (it was
> >> under pharo-repository, not under my name). With it the changes
> I made
> >> to make it work on Pharo7.
> >>
> >> I understand that Peter's tool is easy, i've used it before.
> >> But I have my constraints, as others has theirs.
> >> Just note that lot of people complained but nobody took the work to
> >> migrate it with Peter's tool.
> >> Why? If that's so easy :)
> >>
> >> So I decided I was going to spend only ~1hour. It was
> >>  - Find the right code on sthub (Rmod repository or another one?)
> >>  - loading the code + doing a commit (couple of minutes)
> >>  - adapting the code for pharo 7
> >>  - writing a baseline and testing it worked (in a new image,
> loading
> >> dependencies)
> >>  - writing a readme, putting a link to the website
> >>
> >> All of them are little tasks of a couple of minutes. Count
> interruptions
> >> in the middle.
> >> And now I'm sending this email out of frustration.
> >>
> >
> > Hi Guille,
> >
> > If I can be added to pharo-contribution team I can do the
> migration with
> > history in the next days (weeks max).
> >
> > And thank you for all the work you are doing on a lot of projects!
> >
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>   
> >>
> >>   
> >>
> >> Guille Polito
> >>
> >> Research Engineer
> >>
> >> Centre de Recherche en Informatique, Signal et Automatique de Lille
> >>
> >> CRIStAL - UMR 9189
> >>
> >> French National Center for Scientific Research -
> _http://www.cnrs.fr_
> >>
> >>
> >> *Web:* _http://guillep.github.io_
> >>
> >> *Phone: *+33 06 52 70 66 13
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Cyril Ferlicot
> > https://ferlicot.fr
> >
>
>
>
>
> -- 
>
>    
>
>   
>
> Guille Polito
>
> Research Engineer
>
> Centre de Recherche en Informatique, Signal et Automatique de Lille
>

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Migrated Artefact to GitHub

[Sean P. DeNigris]

NorbertHartl wrote
> finally I‘m asking everone to take care. I need to take care more about
> what I write. But people that get easily offended should see that is the
> other part of the problem.

Bravo. Request accepted :)



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Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Migrated Artefact to GitHub

[Guillermo Polito]

But this was really not against you Norbert, so really no apologies are
needed :), that's why I said that "I hope nobody thinks like that".
I should apologize for reacting in that case ^^.

The thing is that it can be frustrating to send an email and see that lots
of people focus on something negative or how non-perfect it is :).
And I feel that if that energy spent on criticizing was put on
collaborating, we could have something much better!

I've checked my disk and I still have a copy of the repository.
But I've decided I'll post my changes as a Pull Request when somebody
migrates the repository.

Guille

On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 10:32 AM Norbert Hartl  wrote:

> I think I need to apologize. I did not see how my mail could be read. I
> would never accuse you of taking ownership of something you did not do.
> Because I know you wouldn‘t do something like that. It just makes me wonder
> that you don‘t know me good enough to know that I would not accuse you of
> that. I was referring to the removal of prior contributions.
> Anyway the way I wrote it was unfortunate and my apologies again.
>
> I don‘t need to write much more because I can subscribe myself to
> everything Peter said. We should not asking for contributions if we don‘t
> treat them as something valuable.
>
> Of course nobody has time to do stuff. But in this case we have a tool
> that costs only a couple of minutes and saves a lot stuff of value. So I
> didn‘t mean you have to do it but someone. And I just wanted to be to
> consider using the git migration tool in th future. There was no need to
> kill your repo because the history can be added and your changes can be
> rebased on that. That is what git gives us.
>
> And finally I‘m asking everone to take care. I need to take care more
> about what I write. But people that get easily offended should see that is
> the other part of the problem.
>
> Norbert
>
> > Am 29.09.2018 um 01:13 schrieb Cyril Ferlicot D. <
> cyril.ferli...@gmail.com>:
> >
> >> Le 29/09/2018 à 01:05, Guillermo Polito a écrit :
> >> I'm sorry if I offended somebody. I've deleted the repository (it was
> >> under pharo-repository, not under my name). With it the changes I made
> >> to make it work on Pharo7.
> >>
> >> I understand that Peter's tool is easy, i've used it before.
> >> But I have my constraints, as others has theirs.
> >> Just note that lot of people complained but nobody took the work to
> >> migrate it with Peter's tool.
> >> Why? If that's so easy :)
> >>
> >> So I decided I was going to spend only ~1hour. It was
> >>  - Find the right code on sthub (Rmod repository or another one?)
> >>  - loading the code + doing a commit (couple of minutes)
> >>  - adapting the code for pharo 7
> >>  - writing a baseline and testing it worked (in a new image, loading
> >> dependencies)
> >>  - writing a readme, putting a link to the website
> >>
> >> All of them are little tasks of a couple of minutes. Count interruptions
> >> in the middle.
> >> And now I'm sending this email out of frustration.
> >>
> >
> > Hi Guille,
> >
> > If I can be added to pharo-contribution team I can do the migration with
> > history in the next days (weeks max).
> >
> > And thank you for all the work you are doing on a lot of projects!
> >
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Guille Polito
> >>
> >> Research Engineer
> >>
> >> Centre de Recherche en Informatique, Signal et Automatique de Lille
> >>
> >> CRIStAL - UMR 9189
> >>
> >> French National Center for Scientific Research - _http://www.cnrs.fr_
> >>
> >>
> >> *Web:* _http://guillep.github.io_
> >>
> >> *Phone: *+33 06 52 70 66 13
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Cyril Ferlicot
> > https://ferlicot.fr
> >
>
>
>

-- 



Guille Polito

Research Engineer

Centre de Recherche en Informatique, Signal et Automatique de Lille

CRIStAL - UMR 9189

French National Center for Scientific Research - *http://www.cnrs.fr
*


*Web:* *http://guillep.github.io* 

*Phone: *+33 06 52 70 66 13

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Migrated Artefact to GitHub

[Norbert Hartl]

I think I need to apologize. I did not see how my mail could be read. I would 
never accuse you of taking ownership of something you did not do. Because I 
know you wouldn‘t do something like that. It just makes me wonder that you 
don‘t know me good enough to know that I would not accuse you of that. I was 
referring to the removal of prior contributions.
Anyway the way I wrote it was unfortunate and my apologies again.

I don‘t need to write much more because I can subscribe myself to everything 
Peter said. We should not asking for contributions if we don‘t treat them as 
something valuable. 

Of course nobody has time to do stuff. But in this case we have a tool that 
costs only a couple of minutes and saves a lot stuff of value. So I didn‘t mean 
you have to do it but someone. And I just wanted to be to consider using the 
git migration tool in th future. There was no need to kill your repo because 
the history can be added and your changes can be rebased on that. That is what 
git gives us. 

And finally I‘m asking everone to take care. I need to take care more about 
what I write. But people that get easily offended should see that is the other 
part of the problem.

Norbert

> Am 29.09.2018 um 01:13 schrieb Cyril Ferlicot D. :
> 
>> Le 29/09/2018 à 01:05, Guillermo Polito a écrit :
>> I'm sorry if I offended somebody. I've deleted the repository (it was
>> under pharo-repository, not under my name). With it the changes I made
>> to make it work on Pharo7.
>> 
>> I understand that Peter's tool is easy, i've used it before.
>> But I have my constraints, as others has theirs.
>> Just note that lot of people complained but nobody took the work to
>> migrate it with Peter's tool.
>> Why? If that's so easy :)
>> 
>> So I decided I was going to spend only ~1hour. It was 
>>  - Find the right code on sthub (Rmod repository or another one?)
>>  - loading the code + doing a commit (couple of minutes)
>>  - adapting the code for pharo 7
>>  - writing a baseline and testing it worked (in a new image, loading
>> dependencies)
>>  - writing a readme, putting a link to the website
>> 
>> All of them are little tasks of a couple of minutes. Count interruptions
>> in the middle.
>> And now I'm sending this email out of frustration.
>> 
> 
> Hi Guille,
> 
> If I can be added to pharo-contribution team I can do the migration with
> history in the next days (weeks max).
> 
> And thank you for all the work you are doing on a lot of projects!
> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>> Guille Polito
>> 
>> Research Engineer
>> 
>> Centre de Recherche en Informatique, Signal et Automatique de Lille
>> 
>> CRIStAL - UMR 9189
>> 
>> French National Center for Scientific Research - _http://www.cnrs.fr_
>> 
>> 
>> *Web:* _http://guillep.github.io_
>> 
>> *Phone: *+33 06 52 70 66 13
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cyril Ferlicot
> https://ferlicot.fr
> 

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Migrated Artefact to GitHub

[Cyril Ferlicot D.]

Le 29/09/2018 à 01:05, Guillermo Polito a écrit :
> I'm sorry if I offended somebody. I've deleted the repository (it was
> under pharo-repository, not under my name). With it the changes I made
> to make it work on Pharo7.
> 
> I understand that Peter's tool is easy, i've used it before.
> But I have my constraints, as others has theirs.
> Just note that lot of people complained but nobody took the work to
> migrate it with Peter's tool.
> Why? If that's so easy :)
> 
> So I decided I was going to spend only ~1hour. It was 
>  - Find the right code on sthub (Rmod repository or another one?)
>  - loading the code + doing a commit (couple of minutes)
>  - adapting the code for pharo 7
>  - writing a baseline and testing it worked (in a new image, loading
> dependencies)
>  - writing a readme, putting a link to the website
> 
> All of them are little tasks of a couple of minutes. Count interruptions
> in the middle.
> And now I'm sending this email out of frustration.
> 

Hi Guille,

If I can be added to pharo-contribution team I can do the migration with
history in the next days (weeks max).

And thank you for all the work you are doing on a lot of projects!

> 
> -- 
> 
>    
> 
>   
> 
> Guille Polito
> 
> Research Engineer
> 
> Centre de Recherche en Informatique, Signal et Automatique de Lille
> 
> CRIStAL - UMR 9189
> 
> French National Center for Scientific Research - _http://www.cnrs.fr_
> 
> 
> *Web:* _http://guillep.github.io_
> 
> *Phone: *+33 06 52 70 66 13
> 


-- 
Cyril Ferlicot
https://ferlicot.fr



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Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Migrated Artefact to GitHub

[Guillermo Polito]

On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 1:05 AM Guillermo Polito 
wrote:

> I'm sorry if I offended somebody. I've deleted the repository (it was
> under pharo-repository, not under my name). With it the changes I made to
> make it work on Pharo7.
>
> I understand that Peter's tool is easy, i've used it before.
> But I have my constraints, as others has theirs.
> Just note that lot of people complained but nobody took the work to
> migrate it with Peter's tool.
> Why? If that's so easy :)
>
> So I decided I was going to spend only ~1hour. It was
>  - Find the right code on sthub (Rmod repository or another one?)
>  - loading the code + doing a commit (couple of minutes)
>  - adapting the code for pharo 7
>  - writing a baseline and testing it worked (in a new image, loading
> dependencies)
>  - writing a readme, putting a link to the website
>

Also take into account that while tests run green on Pharo7, Milton's
example was not working.
And that I had to test manually.
So count into my "hour" also:
 - loading Milton's code
 - (realize that I have to manually ) load Roassal (otherwise his code
does not load)
 - And test his code

Of course I'm not paid for this, I did it for Milton, because apparently
nobody was taking "ONE HOUR" to answer his email.

And also there are a couple of Artefact examples (Jpeg related) that do not
work since years and they add a bit of noise while you test because you
don't know if there are more things broken or not.

>
> All of them are little tasks of a couple of minutes. Count interruptions
> in the middle.
> And now I'm sending this email out of frustration.
>
> On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 9:19 PM Norbert Hartl  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Am 28.09.2018 um 10:14 schrieb Guillermo Polito <
>> guillermopol...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 9:07 AM Torsten Bergmann  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Guille,
>>>
>>> Yes, thanks. But it looks like the history is gone now - as you seem to
>>> load and then commited
>>> with Iceberg only.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, that's what I did.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> By using Peters "STHub -> Git migration tool" the history of the changes
>>> is preserved and moved into
>>> the git history too. See https://github.com/peteruhnak/git-migration
>>
>> Would it be possible to use that?
>>>
>>
>> Yes, that could be used. The thing is that I'm not Artefact's maintainer,
>> and I did not want to invest more than one hour on this.
>> But if someone wants to take the bull from the horns, that's ok ^^.
>>
>> It is not that much work. Just copying the code under your username I
>> consider rude. I spent a lot of time migrating repos to github of packages
>> I‘m not the maintainer of. The git-migration of Peter is so easy to use
>> there is no reason not to use.
>>
>> History is important
>>
>> Norbert
>>
>> Guille
>>
>>
>
> --
>
>
>
> Guille Polito
>
> Research Engineer
>
> Centre de Recherche en Informatique, Signal et Automatique de Lille
>
> CRIStAL - UMR 9189
>
> French National Center for Scientific Research - *http://www.cnrs.fr
> *
>
>
> *Web:* *http://guillep.github.io* 
>
> *Phone: *+33 06 52 70 66 13
>


-- 



Guille Polito

Research Engineer

Centre de Recherche en Informatique, Signal et Automatique de Lille

CRIStAL - UMR 9189

French National Center for Scientific Research - *http://www.cnrs.fr
*


*Web:* *http://guillep.github.io* 

*Phone: *+33 06 52 70 66 13

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Migrated Artefact to GitHub

[Guillermo Polito]

I'm sorry if I offended somebody. I've deleted the repository (it was under
pharo-repository, not under my name). With it the changes I made to make it
work on Pharo7.

I understand that Peter's tool is easy, i've used it before.
But I have my constraints, as others has theirs.
Just note that lot of people complained but nobody took the work to migrate
it with Peter's tool.
Why? If that's so easy :)

So I decided I was going to spend only ~1hour. It was
 - Find the right code on sthub (Rmod repository or another one?)
 - loading the code + doing a commit (couple of minutes)
 - adapting the code for pharo 7
 - writing a baseline and testing it worked (in a new image, loading
dependencies)
 - writing a readme, putting a link to the website

All of them are little tasks of a couple of minutes. Count interruptions in
the middle.
And now I'm sending this email out of frustration.

On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 9:19 PM Norbert Hartl  wrote:

>
>
> Am 28.09.2018 um 10:14 schrieb Guillermo Polito  >:
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 9:07 AM Torsten Bergmann  wrote:
>
>> Hi Guille,
>>
>> Yes, thanks. But it looks like the history is gone now - as you seem to
>> load and then commited
>> with Iceberg only.
>>
>
> Yes, that's what I did.
>
>
>>
>> By using Peters "STHub -> Git migration tool" the history of the changes
>> is preserved and moved into
>> the git history too. See https://github.com/peteruhnak/git-migration
>
> Would it be possible to use that?
>>
>
> Yes, that could be used. The thing is that I'm not Artefact's maintainer,
> and I did not want to invest more than one hour on this.
> But if someone wants to take the bull from the horns, that's ok ^^.
>
> It is not that much work. Just copying the code under your username I
> consider rude. I spent a lot of time migrating repos to github of packages
> I‘m not the maintainer of. The git-migration of Peter is so easy to use
> there is no reason not to use.
>
> History is important
>
> Norbert
>
> Guille
>
>

-- 



Guille Polito

Research Engineer

Centre de Recherche en Informatique, Signal et Automatique de Lille

CRIStAL - UMR 9189

French National Center for Scientific Research - *http://www.cnrs.fr
*


*Web:* *http://guillep.github.io* 

*Phone: *+33 06 52 70 66 13

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Migrated Artefact to GitHub

[Norbert Hartl]

> Am 28.09.2018 um 10:14 schrieb Guillermo Polito :
> 
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 9:07 AM Torsten Bergmann  wrote:
>> Hi Guille,
>> 
>> Yes, thanks. But it looks like the history is gone now - as you seem to load 
>> and then commited
>> with Iceberg only. 
> 
> Yes, that's what I did.
>  
>> 
>> By using Peters "STHub -> Git migration tool" the history of the changes is 
>> preserved and moved into 
>> the git history too. See https://github.com/peteruhnak/git-migration 
>> Would it be possible to use that?
> 
> Yes, that could be used. The thing is that I'm not Artefact's maintainer, and 
> I did not want to invest more than one hour on this.
> But if someone wants to take the bull from the horns, that's ok ^^. 
> 
It is not that much work. Just copying the code under your username I consider 
rude. I spent a lot of time migrating repos to github of packages I‘m not the 
maintainer of. The git-migration of Peter is so easy to use there is no reason 
not to use. 

History is important

Norbert
> Guille

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Migrated Artefact to GitHub

[Norbert Hartl]

+1000

Please use the git-migration tool. Keeping the history is important. Takes only 
a couple of minutes to do

> Am 28.09.2018 um 09:06 schrieb Torsten Bergmann :
> 
> Hi Guille,
> 
> Yes, thanks. But it looks like the history is gone now - as you seem to load 
> and then commited
> with Iceberg only. 
> 
> By using Peters "STHub -> Git migration tool" the history of the changes is 
> preserved and moved into 
> the git history too. See https://github.com/peteruhnak/git-migration
>  
> Would it be possible to use that?
>  
> Thx
> T. 
>  
> 
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 27. September 2018 um 15:40 Uhr
> Von: "Norbert Hartl" 
> An: "Any question about pharo is welcome" 
> Cc: "Discusses Development of Pharo" 
> Betreff: Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Migrated Artefact to GitHub
> 
>  
> Super! Thanks
>  
> Norbert
> Am 27.09.2018 um 11:26 schrieb Guillermo Polito 
> mailto:guillermopol...@gmail.com]>:
>  
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> I've moved the Artefact library to GitHub 
> (https://github.com/pharo-contributions/Artefact[https://github.com/pharo-contributions/Artefact]).
>  
> I've also made some changes to it in the way and made a 1.7.0 version with:
>  - support for Pharo7 streams
>  - a baseline
>  
> So, people using Artifact, you can contribute through pull requests ^^,
> Guille
>  --
> 
>
> Guille Polito
> Research Engineer
>  
> Centre de Recherche en Informatique, Signal et Automatique de Lille
> CRIStAL - UMR 9189
> French National Center for Scientific Research - 
> http://www.cnrs.fr[http://www.cnrs.fr]
>  
> Web: http://guillep.github.io[http://guillep.github.io]
> Phone: +33 06 52 70 66 13
> 

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Migrated Artefact to GitHub

[Guillermo Polito]

On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 9:07 AM Torsten Bergmann  wrote:

> Hi Guille,
>
> Yes, thanks. But it looks like the history is gone now - as you seem to
> load and then commited
> with Iceberg only.
>

Yes, that's what I did.


>
> By using Peters "STHub -> Git migration tool" the history of the changes
> is preserved and moved into
> the git history too. See https://github.com/peteruhnak/git-migration

Would it be possible to use that?
>

Yes, that could be used. The thing is that I'm not Artefact's maintainer,
and I did not want to invest more than one hour on this.
But if someone wants to take the bull from the horns, that's ok ^^.

Guille

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Migrated Artefact to GitHub

[Torsten Bergmann]

Hi Guille,

Yes, thanks. But it looks like the history is gone now - as you seem to load 
and then commited
with Iceberg only. 

By using Peters "STHub -> Git migration tool" the history of the changes is 
preserved and moved into 
the git history too. See https://github.com/peteruhnak/git-migration
 
Would it be possible to use that?
 
Thx
T. 
 

Gesendet: Donnerstag, 27. September 2018 um 15:40 Uhr
Von: "Norbert Hartl" 
An: "Any question about pharo is welcome" 
Cc: "Discusses Development of Pharo" 
Betreff: Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Migrated Artefact to GitHub

 
Super! Thanks
 
Norbert
Am 27.09.2018 um 11:26 schrieb Guillermo Polito 
mailto:guillermopol...@gmail.com]>:
 

Hi all,
 
I've moved the Artefact library to GitHub 
(https://github.com/pharo-contributions/Artefact[https://github.com/pharo-contributions/Artefact]).
 
I've also made some changes to it in the way and made a 1.7.0 version with:
 - support for Pharo7 streams
 - a baseline
 
So, people using Artifact, you can contribute through pull requests ^^,
Guille
 --

   
Guille Polito
Research Engineer
 
Centre de Recherche en Informatique, Signal et Automatique de Lille
CRIStAL - UMR 9189
French National Center for Scientific Research - 
http://www.cnrs.fr[http://www.cnrs.fr]
 
Web: http://guillep.github.io[http://guillep.github.io]
Phone: +33 06 52 70 66 13

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Migrated Artefact to GitHub

[Norbert Hartl]

Super! Thanks

Norbert

> Am 27.09.2018 um 11:26 schrieb Guillermo Polito :
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I've moved the Artefact library to GitHub 
> (https://github.com/pharo-contributions/Artefact).
> 
> I've also made some changes to it in the way and made a 1.7.0 version with:
>  - support for Pharo7 streams
>  - a baseline
> 
> So, people using Artifact, you can contribute through pull requests ^^,
> Guille
> 
> -- 
>
> Guille Polito
> Research Engineer
> Centre de Recherche en Informatique, Signal et Automatique de Lille
> CRIStAL - UMR 9189
> French National Center for Scientific Research - http://www.cnrs.fr
> 
> Web: http://guillep.github.io
> Phone: +33 06 52 70 66 13