Re: [Pharo-users] InputEventSensor and polling
Hi Sean, Thank you for your support. You can help us by trying it and give us issues: https://code.google.com/p/phratch/ Cheers, Jannik 2013/5/16 Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com Eric Clack wrote I've been working on Phratch, a port of MIT Scratch to Pharo...I can't bear to see it end up in Flash. Amen! What a great, important project. Please ask whatever you need to get this done. We will support you as much as we can :) - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/InputEventSensor-and-polling-tp4687830p4688039.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ~~Dr. Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu
Re: [Pharo-users] Regex question
Yes it is. I will update the chapter on Regex. Thank you Camillo Jannik 2013/7/5 Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com I think that is highly implementation dependent. I guess in this case the Regex matches multilines? On 2013-07-05, at 07:51, jannik.laval jannik.la...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, now in the chapter on Regex, it is written that '.' matches only a single character except cr. So, the command String cr matchesRegex: '.' should return false in this case. But since at least Pharo1.3 (I don't try previous version), it returns true. Jannik On Jul 5, 2013, at 12:33 AM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: Yes this is ok, '.' matches only a single character. The alternatives you might be looking for are #prefixMatchesRegex: or '.*' On 2013-07-05, at 00:03, jannik.laval jannik.la...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Just a simple question about regex: 'a' matchesRegex: '.' -- true 'aa' matchesRegex: '.' -- false As '.' represents any character, the two previous lines are ok. Now, if I test with a cr, it returns true: String cr matchesRegex: '.' -- true. Is it the expected behavior ? Cheers, Jannik -- ~~Dr. Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu
[Pharo-users] Pharo 2.0 and Android
Hi guys, Does anyone try to install a Pharo 2.0 on an Android Tablet ? Is there some documentations ? Cheers, -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu
Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2.0 and Android
If it is for DrGeo, it works on Pharo1.4. But yes, I will wait for its answer. Jannik 2013/7/11 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr Hilaire have probably done it. He is travelling to taiwan just now. Hi guys, Does anyone try to install a Pharo 2.0 on an Android Tablet ? Is there some documentations ? Cheers, -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu
Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book
Dear Joachim, Yes, the printed version gives approximatively 15 USD, the pdf gives 6USD Best regards, Jannik 2013/9/16 jtuc...@objektfabrik.de jtuc...@objektfabrik.de Damien, from this perspective; is there a difference in revenues between printed and pdf? Joachim Am 16.09.13 16:24, schrieb Damien Cassou: Hi, please support our work on Pharo by buying the new Deep into Pharo book http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/**deepIntoPharo/http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/deepIntoPharo/ Your money go to the Pharo Association, so it's worth it. -- -- --**--**--- Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.deFliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de D-71640 Ludwigsburg http://joachimtuchel.**wordpress.comhttp://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1 -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu
Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book
no iBooks for now. It needs another document format, and I don't know how much work it needs. If someone wants to contribute :)... Jannik 2013/9/16 Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com How about iBooks :) uko On 16 вер. 2013, at 17:38, Esteban A. Maringolo emaring...@gmail.com wrote: I would pay an intermediate price to get a Kindle edition :) Esteban A. Maringolo 2013/9/16 Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com: What about a tweet from the pharo tweeter so we can retweet? ;) On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, please support our work on Pharo by buying the new Deep into Pharo book http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/deepIntoPharo/ Your money go to the Pharo Association, so it's worth it. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm. Winston Churchill -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu
Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book
Thank you for the report. I fixed it. Jannik 2013/9/16 Esteban A. Maringolo emaring...@gmail.com Yeap, it is english. I was about to report the same thing. Esteban A. Maringolo 2013/9/16 Juraj Kubelka juraj.kube...@gmail.com Hi, I suppose it is en error, but PDF version on lulu page says it is in French language. It is in English, isn't it? Thank you for the great job! Cheers, Jura El 16-09-2013, a las 11:24, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com escribió: Hi, please support our work on Pharo by buying the new Deep into Pharo book http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/deepIntoPharo/ Your money go to the Pharo Association, so it's worth it. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm. Winston Churchill -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu Captura de pantalla 2013-09-16 a la(s) 12.17.18.png
Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Phratch 1.0beta
Hilaire already help me. Thank you Hilaire :) Now, I need to configure android to make an upscale of Pharo to not be constrained to grow each morph manually. Jannik 2013/12/17 Alain Busser alain.bus...@gmail.com I think Hilaire could help here, as he knows how to make a Cog work under Android; and for me, the main advantage Scratch has on other programming languages, is that the (virtual) keyboard is not used much, so that one can, at last, program with a tablet... Alain On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 2:08 PM, jannik laval jannik.la...@gmail.comwrote: 2013/12/17 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr excellent jannik you should publish it in the metacello repository on squeaksource metacelloRepository is it still alive ? on ss3 metaRepoForPharo20 Ok, I will do that asap and add the catalog metadata. What is it ? Jannik Stef On 16 Dec 2013, at 22:45, jannik.laval jannik.la...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I continue to develop Phratch, the port of Scratch in Pharo. Phratch is a visual programming language on top of Pharo. There are lots of new features: - Settings - FileSystems - Metacello - integration of BYOB (allows to build your own blocks) - integration of Color and Files - a lot of new useful blocks - projects saved with Fuel - possibility to implement new features without modifying the core of the system - possibility to customize the environment: add new categories, add new kinds of Sprite, add new blocks. Phratch is available for Pharo2.0 with the following configuration: — Gofer it url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/JLaval/Phratch/main' username: '' password: ''; package: 'ConfigurationOfPhratch'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPhratch) project version: '1.0') load. (Smalltalk at: #PhratchFrameMorph) open perform: #saveImageForEndUserSilently. — I hope to write documentations about all of the new features asap. You can follow Phratch here: http://car.mines-douai.fr/category/phratch/ and here : https://code.google.com/p/phratch/ Cheers, Jannik -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/ -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/
Re: [Pharo-users] Phratch acknowledgement?
Dear Bernat, I will be happy to add something about Scat on the website (I already added a sentence to fix this issue). Now, we can probably do better together. I am sorry for this omission, I made the google code page too fast and I have to do it better (It is on my todo list !). You can also contact us on the phratch mailing-list: phra...@googlegroups.com Cheers, Jannik 2014/1/10 Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu You are right, Bernat: in open source we build on an immense amount of work done by many developers all over the world and we should always recognise that properly, that is only fair. At least for me, I contribute to open source just because I am grateful for what I received and I want to give something back. Open source software is a prime example of planet wide human collaboration as it should be. Hopefully your request will be heard by those who can fix the (probably unintentional) omission. Sven On 10 Jan 2014, at 16:52, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'm not sure this is the proper place to discuss this, but I just felt I had to write it down. I've just been taking a look at the Phratch GoogleCode site and I've noticed there is not a single mention of where the project comes from... As an opposite example, when Phratch started out a couple years ago, we were really fast and careful to put out a notice in the Scat site letting people know that the project had been taken over by another team. We spent months filing out code from Scratch -a Squeak 2.8 image with barely any tools available-, we fixed hundreds of issues, we recorded screenshots, we documented every step we followed, we implemented a way to save and load projects via Fuel, we got the original Scratch media plugins to work, etc. but there is no mention of any of this anywhere. The amount of work we put in the -unfortunately named- Scat project is huge. We spent more than a year (even some 3-4 months full-time) in it, and I don't think it's egocentric at all to ask for a little recognition of who were the people behind the original project and what was the state of Scat when the Phratch team took over. I don't mean to sound angry, I'm not. I'm sure no information was omitted in bad faith, but recognition of other people's work is something I take very seriously. :) Best, Bernat. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/
Re: [Pharo-users] iStoa
Really cool ! I will try it. Jannik 2014/1/16 Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernan...@gmail.com Hi, I am revisiting a previous project iStoa.net to polish its GUI and graphics. I want to produce math exercises for grade 1 kids to play with, enclosed a few screenshots. Btw, it is on Smalltalkhub. Of course, it is build up à la sauce Smalltalk and Morphic. Hilaire -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/
Re: [Pharo-users] iStoa
The core package depends on LedMorph that is not available in Pharo2.0 nor Pharo3.0. Jannik 2014/1/16 Carlo snoob...@gmail.com Looks promising Hilaire. What version of Pharo can I load this into? Thanks Carlo On 16 Jan 2014, at 10:29 PM, Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am revisiting a previous project iStoa.net to polish its GUI and graphics. I want to produce math exercises for grade 1 kids to play with, enclosed a few screenshots. Btw, it is on Smalltalkhub. Of course, it is build up à la sauce Smalltalk and Morphic. Hilaire -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu istoa1.jpgistoa2.jpgistoa3.jpgistoa4.jpg -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/
[Pharo-users] Phratch: first tutorial on how to create your own blocks programmatically
Dear lists, as requested, I wrote a small tutorial. The tutorial is here: http://car.mines-douai.fr/2014/01/624/ You are welcome to comment and to fix my english :) Cheers -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/
Re: [Pharo-users] Phratch one-click
URL of the Jenkins: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Phratch/job/Phratch-OneClick/ Then Phratch2.0 For Linux: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Phratch/job/Phratch-OneClick/PHARO=3.0,PLATFORM=linux,VERSION=2.0,VM=vm/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/Phratch2.0-linux.zip Phratch2.0 For Windows: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Phratch/job/Phratch-OneClick/PHARO=3.0,PLATFORM=win,VERSION=2.0,VM=vm/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/Phratch2.0-win.zip Phratch2.0 For MacOS: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Phratch/job/Phratch-OneClick/PHARO=3.0,PLATFORM=mac,VERSION=2.0,VM=vm/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/Phratch2.0-mac.zip Cheers, 2014-03-03 20:41 GMT+01:00 Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernan...@gmail.com: Great! URL? Hilaire Le 01/03/2014 12:30, jannik laval a écrit : Now, no need to install anything: just download the zip file for your platform, unzip it and run Phratch. -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/
Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Phratch one-click
Are you using it on a Mac ? On Windows and Linux it is really faster. I am thinking that it comes from the Mac VM. I want to discuss that next Friday during the Pharo Sprint. Jannik 2014-03-04 16:45 GMT+01:00 Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernan...@gmail.com: Thank for the url, my old eyes couldn't catch it. It looks great but very slow compare to the original Scratch. Any idea what makes it so unresponsive? Now I understand why you told me it was unusable on tablet. Something may be wrong, it should not be that slow. Hilaire Le 03/03/2014 23:38, jannik laval a écrit : URL of the Jenkins: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Phratch/job/Phratch-OneClick/ Then Phratch2.0 For Linux: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Phratch/job/Phratch-OneClick/PHARO=3.0,PLATFORM=linux,VERSION=2.0,VM=vm/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/Phratch2.0-linux.zip Phratch2.0 For Windows: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Phratch/job/Phratch-OneClick/PHARO=3.0,PLATFORM=win,VERSION=2.0,VM=vm/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/Phratch2.0-win.zip Phratch2.0 For MacOS: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Phratch/job/Phratch-OneClick/PHARO=3.0,PLATFORM=mac,VERSION=2.0,VM=vm/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/Phratch2.0-mac.zip Cheers, 2014-03-03 20:41 GMT+01:00 Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernan...@gmail.com mailto:hilaire.fernan...@gmail.com: Great! URL? Hilaire Le 01/03/2014 12:30, jannik laval a écrit : Now, no need to install anything: just download the zip file for your platform, unzip it and run Phratch. -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/ -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/
Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Phratch one-click
Thank you for the report Hilaire. I think now that we need some profiling. Any expert for that ? Jannik 2014-03-05 10:08 GMT+01:00 Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernan...@gmail.com: I am on Linux. Hilaire Le 04/03/2014 17:06, jannik laval a écrit : Are you using it on a Mac ? On Windows and Linux it is really faster. I am thinking that it comes from the Mac VM. I want to discuss that next Friday during the Pharo Sprint. Jannik 2014-03-04 16:45 GMT+01:00 Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernan...@gmail.com mailto:hilaire.fernan...@gmail.com: Thank for the url, my old eyes couldn't catch it. It looks great but very slow compare to the original Scratch. Any idea what makes it so unresponsive? Now I understand why you told me it was unusable on tablet. Something may be wrong, it should not be that slow. Hilaire Le 03/03/2014 23:38, jannik laval a écrit : URL of the Jenkins: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Phratch/job/Phratch-OneClick/ Then Phratch2.0 For Linux: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Phratch/job/Phratch-OneClick/PHARO=3.0,PLATFORM=linux,VERSION=2.0,VM=vm/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/Phratch2.0-linux.zip Phratch2.0 For Windows: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Phratch/job/Phratch-OneClick/PHARO=3.0,PLATFORM=win,VERSION=2.0,VM=vm/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/Phratch2.0-win.zip Phratch2.0 For MacOS: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Phratch/job/Phratch-OneClick/PHARO=3.0,PLATFORM=mac,VERSION=2.0,VM=vm/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/Phratch2.0-mac.zip Cheers, 2014-03-03 20:41 GMT+01:00 Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernan...@gmail.com mailto:hilaire.fernan...@gmail.com mailto:hilaire.fernan...@gmail.com mailto:hilaire.fernan...@gmail.com: Great! URL? Hilaire Le 01/03/2014 12:30, jannik laval a écrit : Now, no need to install anything: just download the zip file for your platform, unzip it and run Phratch. -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/ -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/ -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/
Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Phratch one-click
Hi Hilaire, Hum, probably this comes from there... Could you explain a bit more how to change it ? Cheers, Jannik 2014-03-05 11:19 GMT+01:00 Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernan...@gmail.com: For event, how is it developed? I remember, when I started developing DrGeo I used the change/update event mecanism. Then I dropped it for a simple linear top/down update of the geometric tree model, it becames much faster after that. Hilaire Le 05/03/2014 10:44, jannik laval a écrit : I think now that we need some profiling. Any expert for that ? -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/
Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Phratch one-click
Hi Hilaire, 2014-03-11 17:27 GMT+01:00 Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernan...@gmail.com: Hi Jannik, Don't use the change/update event mecanism. This mean a lot of changes in your model. Yes, this is what I understand :) In DrGeo I use a simple loop to update the sketch, but i guess it is more complicated with Pratch as you have parallel threads. In the other hand, is the original Scratch implemented with change/update? If so why it is not as slow? I don't know why, probably due to the evolution of Pharo. But, with JB we found some code that we changed: now it is really faster. It is integrated in Phratch2.0. We also saw a lot of other things to improve, it will come soon. Cheers, Jannik Hilaire Le 06/03/2014 20:42, jannik laval a écrit : Hi Hilaire, Hum, probably this comes from there... Could you explain a bit more how to change it ? Cheers, Jannik 2014-03-05 11:19 GMT+01:00 Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernan...@gmail.com mailto:hilaire.fernan...@gmail.com: For event, how is it developed? I remember, when I started developing DrGeo I used the change/update event mecanism. Then I dropped it for a simple linear top/down update of the geometric tree model, it becames much faster after that. Hilaire Le 05/03/2014 10:44, jannik laval a écrit : I think now that we need some profiling. Any expert for that ? -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/ -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/
[Pharo-users] Phratch Website + version 3.0 in dev
Dear all, I am pleased to announce Phratch website: www.phratch.com Thanks to the support of ESUG, it is possible to make visible this wonderful project. For now, what is available on the site: - a presentation of Phratch (you can refer to it now) - installation files, there is a portable version for Windows, Linux, MacOS. - tutorials - block documentation: generated from a Phratch image ! - Some elements for Jetstorm (a lot of new articles will come soon) - a category with news Now about the versions, I am developing the version 3.0 Why this number ? Why a third version in one year of work ? It is clear that a lot of work is already done. Each version represents strong changes in the architecture. - version 1.0 is the port of Scratch + BYOB + Panther in Pharo. It is working but not extendable. - version 2.0 makes Phratch really extendable. We can develop our own block for everything in Pharo. I also make Phratch more modular with the use of Pragmas for some menus, declaration of blocks... It is available only in Pharo 3.0. There are some languages available, I hope more people can translate in other languages (http://www.phratch.com/archives/612). - version 3.0 is the version in development. What is new here: Before this version Phratch was really slow. I am cleaning the code, and now it begins to be fast, really fast ! We also begun to write tests. I am really happy to have the support of ESUG and Pharo. Thanks to the community to make Pharo as usable as it it, it makes our dreams possible. Cheers, -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/
Re: [Pharo-users] Phratch Website + version 3.0 in dev
2014-03-19 15:34 GMT+01:00 Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernan...@gmail.com: Great news! Le 19/03/2014 15:10, jannik laval a écrit : - version 3.0 is the version in development. What is new here: Before this version Phratch was really slow. I am cleaning the code, and now it begins to be fast, really fast ! We also begun to write tests. I am curious. What did you finally find out for speed up? Hum, some crappy things. For example, to manage the z-index of the bubble talk: - a loop to draw all the morph - a second loop that select the buuble (isKindOf: bubble !!!) and draw only the bubble. These two loops are in the same method and called on each step... for a bubble that appears only 1 or 2 times in an application Removing the second loop makes Phratch 2x faster. I am continuing to clean that. I also find the problem with click-event. Now when I click, it works fine ! Cheers, Jannik Hilaire -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/
[Pharo-users] [Ann] Phratch 4.0
Phratch 4.0 is out of the box ! Phratch 4.0 is cleaner, faster and more stable than phratch 3.0. After the version 3.0 that was a release for usability and stability, phratch 4.0 is released to prepare the future. The new features are: - phratch is more modular, eg having a kernel and lots of addons. - cleaning a lot the source code - customizable environment - each block can be made visible or invisible - each category can be made visible or invisible - it is possible to add translation for addons with the pragma phratchTranslation: ‘fr’ in the class PhratchTranslator. This make the translation more modular. - first integration of phratch with the pharo environment. Using the pragma at the class side of any class in Pharo make the class visible and usable in phratch. - There is a lot of things to do with phratch, you are welcome to contribute ! The documentation for new features will arrive soon. See you on phratch.com -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/
Re: [Pharo-users] [Ann] Phratch 4.0
Thank you Hilaire for the feedback. I will fix that asap and release a new phratch 4. About the Arduino, it is a first try I did, but it seems to not working well. If you want to make it usable: just create a new sprite, you will have the choice of a standard sprite and an arduino one. Choose the arduino, and the blocks will appear. For the keypad, it is strange. Does it work on Pharo ? I am not sure phratch changes this kind of behavior. For the rest, I am sure to fix that in the week. Cheers 2014-10-18 16:41 GMT+02:00 Hilaire hila...@drgeo.eu: Thanks! A few points worth mentioning. - On Linux, keypad does not work - for me, the font characters in the bricks are too small - the robot, has a non transparent white background, I tried to edit it but the sprite I have is of too low resolution to make something clean - some tools in the paint dialogue are mostly invisible (see screenshot) - preview and loading of JPG background does not work (see screenshot fileDialog) - the file dialog dropdown list arrow is shifted vertically (see screenshot fileDialog) - in the file dialogue to load a previously saved project, the author nor description are displayed (screenshot filedialog project). - I load the the Arduino add-on, I have a new Arduino category but no brick. Hilaire Le 17/10/2014 11:48, jannik laval a écrit : hratch 4.0 is out of the box ! Phratch 4.0 is cleaner, faster and more stable than phratch 3.0. After the version 3.0 that was a release for usability and stability, phratch 4.0 is released to prepare the future. -- Dr. Geo - http://drgeo.eu iStoa - http://istoa.drgeo.eu -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/
Re: [Pharo-users] [Ann] Phratch 4.0
Hi Hilaire, Which version of Linux are you using ? Thank you again for your feedback. Here is my comments for your list: - On Linux, keypad does not work Ok, the last build of the vm I use is from 5 month ! I redo it, it should work today. By the way, keypad does not work on pharo-launcher too. - for me, the font characters in the bricks are too small you can change it in settings. Then in settings Phratch click on the button launch to refresh the display. - the robot, has a non transparent white background, I tried to edit it but the sprite I have is of too low resolution to make something clean I don't understand. I have a transparent background. But I saw a bug: When I edit it, the background become white. I fixed it. - some tools in the paint dialogue are mostly invisible (see screenshot) Yes, they is a strange behavior here. Sometimes it works, sometimes there is this crappy green color... I tried again to fix it. We will see what happen. The point is to clean all this part of Phratch, If there are volunteers :) - preview and loading of JPG background does not work (see screenshot fileDialog) On my Ubuntu 14.04 it works fine. - the file dialog dropdown list arrow is shifted vertically (see screenshot fileDialog) fixed - in the file dialogue to load a previously saved project, the author nor description are displayed (screenshot filedialog project). I open a bug entry. It will be fixed in next version. - I load the the Arduino add-on, I have a new Arduino category but no brick. I will answer in another mail. All these changes are currently building. It will be available today, or tomorrow. Cheers, Jannik 2014-10-18 16:41 GMT+02:00 Hilaire hila...@drgeo.eu: Thanks! A few points worth mentioning. - On Linux, keypad does not work - for me, the font characters in the bricks are too small - the robot, has a non transparent white background, I tried to edit it but the sprite I have is of too low resolution to make something clean - some tools in the paint dialogue are mostly invisible (see screenshot) - preview and loading of JPG background does not work (see screenshot fileDialog) - the file dialog dropdown list arrow is shifted vertically (see screenshot fileDialog) - in the file dialogue to load a previously saved project, the author nor description are displayed (screenshot filedialog project). - I load the the Arduino add-on, I have a new Arduino category but no brick. Hilaire Le 17/10/2014 11:48, jannik laval a écrit : hratch 4.0 is out of the box ! Phratch 4.0 is cleaner, faster and more stable than phratch 3.0. After the version 3.0 that was a release for usability and stability, phratch 4.0 is released to prepare the future. -- Dr. Geo - http://drgeo.eu iStoa - http://istoa.drgeo.eu -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/
Re: [Pharo-users] [Ann] Phratch 4.0
Hi Hilaire, 2014-10-19 10:08 GMT+02:00 Hilaire hila...@drgeo.eu: Le 19/10/2014 08:38, jannik laval a écrit : About the Arduino, it is a first try I did, but it seems to not working well. If you want to make it usable: just create a new sprite, you will have the choice of a standard sprite and an arduino one. Choose the arduino, and the blocks will appear. I have an arduino board I want to try. Do you know if Linux+Pratch+Arduino is a working team? I am sure that phratch+Arduino does not work well. Then about Linux, I think it is not a problem. I added José Manuel Ruiz in cc. He asked me if I can make Arduino work on Phratch and we have some problems. First of all, I am using the Firmata firmware. There is a bridge between Squeak and Firmata that I took and adapt on Pharo. I can take some values from analog port, but not digital. Now I have 2 problems: - I have not enough knowledge about Arduino to understand what is wrong: Phratch only use the API, and I am not sure the API works well. - For now, I am using the Firmata firmware but we could use the s4a firmware (http://s4a.cat/). We have to test. So, Hilaire, if you have some times to test the two firmware or if you are using one on Pharo, or if you have any knowledge to share. It will be really fast to make something work. Thank you again for yoour feedback and Ihope you can help me for Arduino. Cheers, Jannik -- Dr. Geo - http://drgeo.eu iStoa - http://istoa.drgeo.eu -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/
Re: [Pharo-users] [Ann] Phratch 4.0
Thank you Hilaire, Could you try phratch and say me what do you expect. Then explain me what is not working. Cheers, Jannik 2014-10-20 10:53 GMT+02:00 Hilaire Fernandes hila...@drgeo.eu: Le 20/10/2014 10:36, jannik laval a écrit : So, Hilaire, if you have some times to test the two firmware or if you are using one on Pharo, or if you have any knowledge to share. It will be really fast to make something work. Thank you again for yoour feedback and Ihope you can help me for Arduino. Hello Jannik, My knowledge is very limited on the matter and I am in a prospective state investigating what I can do with an Arduino board with students, so I will be of no help, beside testing. Hilaire -- Dr. Geo - http://drgeo.eu iStoa - http://istoa.drgeo.eu -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/
Re: [Pharo-users] [Ann] Phratch 4.0
Thank you Hilaire. I just fixed that. I am rebuilding the one-click. You can try again in 1 hour. Cheers, Jannik 2014-10-21 12:36 GMT+02:00 Hilaire hila...@drgeo.eu: Le 21/10/2014 07:07, jannik laval a écrit : Could you try phratch and say me what do you expect. Then explain me what is not working. AS you indicated me, I create an Arduino sprite, then when I click on the Arduinio block category I have an out of bounds error. See changelog Hilaire -- Dr. Geo - http://drgeo.eu iStoa - http://istoa.drgeo.eu -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/
Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN]: NewExternalWebBrowser
Thank you Sean, I will integrate it in Phratch. Like that, I can remove OSProcess. Cheers, Jannik 2014-11-05 9:15 GMT-03:00 Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com: Sean P. DeNigris wrote: Tudor Girba-2 wrote Nice :)... Thanks, No problem! BTW let's not depend on NewExternalWebBrowser surviving as the project's name ;) Don't be a newb...? ;) - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ANN- NewExternalWebBrowser-tp4788403p4788461.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/
Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN]: NewExternalWebBrowser
It seems that there is no NBUnixShell. I have implemented the necessary for Ubuntu, in Phratch. Would you like I push it ? 2014-11-07 14:08 GMT-03:00 Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com: Tudor Girba-2 wrote Actually, the ability to open a web browser is already present in the Pharo image out of the box through NativeBoost: NBMacShell open: 'http://pharo.org' NBWin32Shell shellBrowse: 'http://pharo.org' Yes, that's what I wrapped :) I just added the behavior directly to ZnUrl and handled the platform automatically. - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ANN-NewExternalWebBrowser-tp4788403p4788959.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/
Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN]: NewExternalWebBrowser
2014-11-08 17:41 GMT+01:00 Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com: jannik laval wrote It seems that there is no NBUnixShell. I have implemented the necessary for Ubuntu, in Phratch. Would you like I push it ? Absolutely! Is there a command or library that can open a URL that works on all GNU+Linux flavors (bonus if it's pre-loaded)? When I looked into this the first time, I remember there was xdg-open, gnome-open, etc, etc... Yes, there is a lot of different command. I only use xdg-open. Could you give me access to the repository ? Cheers, Jannik - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ANN-NewExternalWebBrowser-tp4788403p4789174.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/
Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN]: NewExternalWebBrowser
Thank you, I added the code. Cheers, Jannik 2014-11-11 22:34 GMT+01:00 Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com: jannik laval wrote Could you give me access to the repository ? Added user JLaval as contributor - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ANN-NewExternalWebBrowser-tp4788403p4789740.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/
Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Please test Pharo4 *now*
Hi guys, phratch is already built on pharo 4. 30 students will use it. I will give you feedback. Cheers, Jannik 2015-03-16 18:14 GMT+01:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu: On 16 Mar 2015, at 17:39, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Hello, As every year: We can only fix what we know. And this means that no, just because *you* think that X and Y obviously needs to be fixed, it will only be fixed if a) there is an issue on the issue tracker b) someone fixes it. I should repeat: *Nothing*, even the most obvious or trivial, happens by itself. Marcus Maybe it is also important to add that we are talking about bugs, not features. This is not the time for free wheeling discussions about anything, we need help in QA, to finalize the 4.0 release. Please load your code and give it a spin. Sven -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/
[Pharo-users] phratch with robot Poppy
Hi all, A group of my students worked on the connection of phratch and the robot Poppy. All is done with a REST communication (thanks to Zinc). http://www.phratch.com/archives/1138 Now, we have a new robot in our world :) Cheers, -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/
[Pharo-users] Demo LegoStore
Hi Guys, We are organising a small presentation of phratch/jetstorm at LegoStore Lille the 1st of July from 13.00 to 14.30. We hope to see you there ! Cheers, -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/
Re: [Pharo-users] Phratch: Support for Spanish language in the interface
Dear Offray, Thank you for using phratch. Spanish is available. You just have to click on the sphere on the left of file menu. Here, you will find a list of available languages. Sometimes, there are blocks that are not translated. In this case, don't hesitate to contact me, we will translate them. Best regards, Jannik 2015-07-02 5:09 GMT+02:00 Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas off...@riseup.net: Hi, Some teachers are considering to make some field work with Phratch on learning physics by modelling simple real world phenomena (uniform accelerated movement, free fall etc). I downloaded it today and try to change the interface to Spanish, but I couldn't find the proper place to do it. Has Phratch support for a Spanish interface. If not, how difficult will be to provide this and how can we help? Cheers, Offray -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/
Re: [Pharo-users] Phratch: Support for Spanish language in the interface
Hi Thierry, It is a choice :) Scratch uses the scratch plugin to do that. In phratch, I removed the scratch plugin, to be sure to be compatible with platforms where it is not available. Maybe, we can reintroduce it using OSProcess or NativeBoost. If you have a code snippet, I can use it. Cheers, Jannik 2015-07-02 17:14 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com: Hi Jannik, about that. Why is Phratch not picking the language from the environment? Scratch on the same platform (linux / french) does it. Regards, Thierry Le 02/07/2015 14:00, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas a écrit : Thanks Jannik, it worked. I miss the little globe. Cheers, Offray On 02/07/15 06:48, jannik laval wrote: Dear Offray, Thank you for using phratch. Spanish is available. You just have to click on the sphere on the left of file menu. Here, you will find a list of available languages. Sometimes, there are blocks that are not translated. In this case, don't hesitate to contact me, we will translate them. Best regards, Jannik 2015-07-02 5:09 GMT+02:00 Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas mailto:off...@riseup.netoff...@riseup.net: Hi, Some teachers are considering to make some field work with Phratch on learning physics by modelling simple real world phenomena (uniform accelerated movement, free fall etc). I downloaded it today and try to change the interface to Spanish, but I couldn't find the proper place to do it. Has Phratch support for a Spanish interface. If not, how difficult will be to provide this and how can we help? Cheers, Offray -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/ -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/
Re: [Pharo-users] Phratch: Support for Spanish language in the interface
2015-07-03 11:22 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com: 2015-07-03 11:06 GMT+02:00 jannik laval jannik.la...@gmail.com: 2015-07-03 11:01 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com: 2015-07-03 10:51 GMT+02:00 jannik laval jannik.la...@gmail.com: Hi Thierry, It is a choice :) Scratch uses the scratch plugin to do that. In phratch, I removed the scratch plugin, to be sure to be compatible with platforms where it is not available. Ok. I need to have a deeper look into all this (like why phratch doesn't has the sound working on linux). My daughters are using scratch at the moment, and we're planning scratch-type of things around fablab-type activities, so it would be good to do Phratch instead. Yes, does she try to load the sound addon ? Normally, sound should work on the latest pharo VM, but I did not try it. I'll have a try. There is a CI for Phratch? I'm on Ubuntu 15.04, so I can't use the pharo ppa to install Phratch. https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Phratch/ And I want to control my daughter's Lego with Phratch via bluetooth ;) Yes, we have some problems with Linux and bluetooth... but we will fix it soon, i hope. What is missing? There is some in-house expertise on using serial ports from within Pharo, and, from what I could see from the Mindstorm documentation, a Lego Mindstorm should appear as a serial device. We use a serial connection on the bluetooth, after a pairing. We need to send data on the /dev/bluetooth-ev3-something Sometimes, the ev3 does not appear in /dev. Maybe, we can reintroduce it using OSProcess or NativeBoost. Yes, I've seen that you load OSProcess in Phratch, so it means we can rely on it. NativeBoost has access to the environment variables, and it would be to use LANG. If you have a code snippet, I can use it. I don't know enough about Phratch source code to propose anything yet. LANG value on my system is probably typical and is 'fr_FR.UTF-8'; how would that match Phratch language settings ? phratch uses the .po files, like scratch. So, the string sent by your system should be uderstandable by phratch. Ok. I'll have a look then. Thank you. Jannik Thierry Jannik Regards, Thierry -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/ -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/
Re: [Pharo-users] Phratch: Support for Spanish language in the interface
2015-07-03 11:01 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com: 2015-07-03 10:51 GMT+02:00 jannik laval jannik.la...@gmail.com: Hi Thierry, It is a choice :) Scratch uses the scratch plugin to do that. In phratch, I removed the scratch plugin, to be sure to be compatible with platforms where it is not available. Ok. I need to have a deeper look into all this (like why phratch doesn't has the sound working on linux). My daughters are using scratch at the moment, and we're planning scratch-type of things around fablab-type activities, so it would be good to do Phratch instead. Yes, does she try to load the sound addon ? Normally, sound should work on the latest pharo VM, but I did not try it. And I want to control my daughter's Lego with Phratch via bluetooth ;) Yes, we have some problems with Linux and bluetooth... but we will fix it soon, i hope. Maybe, we can reintroduce it using OSProcess or NativeBoost. Yes, I've seen that you load OSProcess in Phratch, so it means we can rely on it. NativeBoost has access to the environment variables, and it would be to use LANG. If you have a code snippet, I can use it. I don't know enough about Phratch source code to propose anything yet. LANG value on my system is probably typical and is 'fr_FR.UTF-8'; how would that match Phratch language settings ? phratch uses the .po files, like scratch. So, the string sent by your system should be uderstandable by phratch. Jannik Regards, Thierry -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/
Re: [Pharo-users] (Kind of urgent) Phratch: operators don't work at all on last verion!
Hi Offray, Could you give me the process you use to download the wrong version ? It is probable that a link is not correct. Best, Jannik 2015-07-14 22:59 GMT+02:00 Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas off...@riseup.net : Thanks Jannik for your quick answer! we're working on the workshop right now, so getting this support is really encouraging for we all and sorry if I don't go th the specific mailing list in this hurry, but I will be using Phratch in the future, so wait for us there. I have downloaded the installer from there and now is working. Seems that we have and old version with a change in the code recently that we miss. Thanks again, Offray On 14/07/15 15:47, jannik laval wrote: Hi Offray, you can use the phratch mailing-list to ask specific questions: phra...@googlegroups.comphra...@googlegroups.com. About your problem of MNU. Could you provide more information. I cannot reproduce your problem: - I downloaded phratch 4.0 from here: http://www.phratch.com/phratch/phratchinstall - run it - click on the category operators. It works for me. For your second question: There is a block clean pen trails that erase all the drawn lines. I will be happy to answer other questions :) Best regards, Jannik 2015-07-14 22:12 GMT+02:00 Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas off...@riseup.netoff...@riseup.net: Hi all, Today we started to use phratch to a group of people without much of any experience with computer programming. The idea is to have a workshop today and tomorrow start with more symbolic and abstract approach using Pharo and give them a taste of the several levels of programmig and exploration this environment provides. But my main problem is that operators dont work on Phratch. We get a MNU as soon as we select the operators button which is a real stoper for any advance stuff. We're using the currently available package from the download page. Can somebody help me on this? Also: ¿How can we erase a line drawn with the pencil on the background? I will be sharing more questions as they come. Thanks, Offray -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/ -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/
Re: [Pharo-users] (Kind of urgent) Phratch: operators don't work at all on last verion!
Hi Offray, you can use the phratch mailing-list to ask specific questions: phra...@googlegroups.com. About your problem of MNU. Could you provide more information. I cannot reproduce your problem: - I downloaded phratch 4.0 from here: http://www.phratch.com/phratch/phratchinstall - run it - click on the category operators. It works for me. For your second question: There is a block clean pen trails that erase all the drawn lines. I will be happy to answer other questions :) Best regards, Jannik 2015-07-14 22:12 GMT+02:00 Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas off...@riseup.net : Hi all, Today we started to use phratch to a group of people without much of any experience with computer programming. The idea is to have a workshop today and tomorrow start with more symbolic and abstract approach using Pharo and give them a taste of the several levels of programmig and exploration this environment provides. But my main problem is that operators dont work on Phratch. We get a MNU as soon as we select the operators button which is a real stoper for any advance stuff. We're using the currently available package from the download page. Can somebody help me on this? Also: ¿How can we erase a line drawn with the pencil on the background? I will be sharing more questions as they come. Thanks, Offray -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/
Re: [Pharo-users] (Kind of urgent) Phratch: operators don't work at all on last verion!
Ok, There are some problems in the spanish file. I will update it as soon as possible. Jannik 2015-07-15 0:07 GMT+02:00 Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas off...@riseup.net: Well, the procedure we made in both cases was the same. Went to download page, download the proper package for each platform and with the previous one, operators didn't work but on this they do. I don't know if is possible to see details on each version by going to the underlaying system. Finally we detected what was going on: The operators don't work if we change the language interface to Spanish. If I can help with any test or details, let me know. Cheers, Offray On 14/07/15 16:17, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote: Hi Jan, I'm downloading now the mac version. Let me test it to give you more details. Offray On 14/07/15 16:02, jannik laval wrote: Hi Offray, Could you give me the process you use to download the wrong version ? It is probable that a link is not correct. Best, Jannik 2015-07-14 22:59 GMT+02:00 Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas off...@riseup.netoff...@riseup.net: Thanks Jannik for your quick answer! we're working on the workshop right now, so getting this support is really encouraging for we all and sorry if I don't go th the specific mailing list in this hurry, but I will be using Phratch in the future, so wait for us there. I have downloaded the installer from there and now is working. Seems that we have and old version with a change in the code recently that we miss. Thanks again, Offray On 14/07/15 15:47, jannik laval wrote: Hi Offray, you can use the phratch mailing-list to ask specific questions: phra...@googlegroups.comphra...@googlegroups.com. About your problem of MNU. Could you provide more information. I cannot reproduce your problem: - I downloaded phratch 4.0 from here: http://www.phratch.com/phratch/phratchinstall http://www.phratch.com/phratch/phratchinstall - run it - click on the category operators. It works for me. For your second question: There is a block clean pen trails that erase all the drawn lines. I will be happy to answer other questions :) Best regards, Jannik 2015-07-14 22:12 GMT+02:00 Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas off...@riseup.net: Hi all, Today we started to use phratch to a group of people without much of any experience with computer programming. The idea is to have a workshop today and tomorrow start with more symbolic and abstract approach using Pharo and give them a taste of the several levels of programmig and exploration this environment provides. But my main problem is that operators dont work on Phratch. We get a MNU as soon as we select the operators button which is a real stoper for any advance stuff. We're using the currently available package from the download page. Can somebody help me on this? Also: ¿How can we erase a line drawn with the pencil on the background? I will be sharing more questions as they come. Thanks, Offray -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/ -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/ -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/
Re: [Pharo-users] (Kind of urgent) Phratch: operators don't work at all on last verion!
I fixed the file, now we should wait for the continous integration server. If you want to fix it locally, just go to phratch directory, in locale directory, open the es.po with a text editor. search for $Strings$, and replace it with $String$. Just remove the s in fact. After that, it will work. Best regards, Jannik 2015-07-15 0:37 GMT+02:00 jannik laval jannik.la...@gmail.com: Ok, There are some problems in the spanish file. I will update it as soon as possible. Jannik 2015-07-15 0:07 GMT+02:00 Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas off...@riseup.net : Well, the procedure we made in both cases was the same. Went to download page, download the proper package for each platform and with the previous one, operators didn't work but on this they do. I don't know if is possible to see details on each version by going to the underlaying system. Finally we detected what was going on: The operators don't work if we change the language interface to Spanish. If I can help with any test or details, let me know. Cheers, Offray On 14/07/15 16:17, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote: Hi Jan, I'm downloading now the mac version. Let me test it to give you more details. Offray On 14/07/15 16:02, jannik laval wrote: Hi Offray, Could you give me the process you use to download the wrong version ? It is probable that a link is not correct. Best, Jannik 2015-07-14 22:59 GMT+02:00 Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas off...@riseup.netoff...@riseup.net: Thanks Jannik for your quick answer! we're working on the workshop right now, so getting this support is really encouraging for we all and sorry if I don't go th the specific mailing list in this hurry, but I will be using Phratch in the future, so wait for us there. I have downloaded the installer from there and now is working. Seems that we have and old version with a change in the code recently that we miss. Thanks again, Offray On 14/07/15 15:47, jannik laval wrote: Hi Offray, you can use the phratch mailing-list to ask specific questions: phra...@googlegroups.comphra...@googlegroups.com. About your problem of MNU. Could you provide more information. I cannot reproduce your problem: - I downloaded phratch 4.0 from here: http://www.phratch.com/phratch/phratchinstall http://www.phratch.com/phratch/phratchinstall - run it - click on the category operators. It works for me. For your second question: There is a block clean pen trails that erase all the drawn lines. I will be happy to answer other questions :) Best regards, Jannik 2015-07-14 22:12 GMT+02:00 Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas off...@riseup.net: Hi all, Today we started to use phratch to a group of people without much of any experience with computer programming. The idea is to have a workshop today and tomorrow start with more symbolic and abstract approach using Pharo and give them a taste of the several levels of programmig and exploration this environment provides. But my main problem is that operators dont work on Phratch. We get a MNU as soon as we select the operators button which is a real stoper for any advance stuff. We're using the currently available package from the download page. Can somebody help me on this? Also: ¿How can we erase a line drawn with the pencil on the background? I will be sharing more questions as they come. Thanks, Offray -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/ -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/ -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/ -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/
Re: [Pharo-users] Fwd: Phratch: System/World Menu instead of phratch menu
Hi Offray, Could you reproduce the bug ? Or when does it appear ? Best regards, Jannik 2015-07-15 17:39 GMT+02:00 Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas off...@riseup.net : He he, sorry sending from the wrong mail address, here comes again. Forwarded Message Subject: Phratch: System/World Menu instead of phratch menu Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 10:35:37 -0500 From: Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas offray.l...@mutabit.com offray.l...@mutabit.com To: pharo-users@lists.pharo.org Hi, Some of my students are having a problem. For some reason the pharo world/system menu appears and we don't know how to disable it and go back to the phratch menu, so we can't use Save as and other options to save/export projects. How to get back the default behaviour for Phratch menus? Thanks, Offray -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/
Re: [Pharo-users] touch screens
Hi Ralph, I don't know if the touch screen works. I remember that there are guys working on it but not sure about the progress. pharo mailing list is in copy. Someone could answer you. Best regards, Jannik 2015-11-13 5:04 GMT+01:00 Ralph Boland <rpbol...@gmail.com>: > From: Ralph Boland <rpbol...@gmail.com> > Subject: touch screens > > Message Body: > I am wondering if there are plans to make phratch (and I guess pharo also) > work with touch screens. > > Ralph Boland > > -- > This e-mail was sent from a contact form on Phratch (http://www.phratch.com) > -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Enseignant-chercheur IUT Lumière, Université Lyon Lumière laboratoire DISP http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info
Re: [Pharo-users] touch screens
Thank you Stef, I hope to have a look soon. Jannik 2015-11-16 9:06 GMT+01:00 stepharo <steph...@free.fr>: > Hi jannik > > Yes it works. Look at the thales videos > Now it is available for Pharo50. > Now we need people to have a look and let us know. > > Stef > > > > Le 15/11/15 20:45, jannik laval a écrit : > >> Hi Ralph, >> >> I don't know if the touch screen works. I remember that there are guys >> working on it but not sure about the progress. >> pharo mailing list is in copy. Someone could answer you. >> >> Best regards, >> Jannik >> >> 2015-11-13 5:04 GMT+01:00 Ralph Boland <rpbol...@gmail.com>: >>> >>> From: Ralph Boland <rpbol...@gmail.com> >>> Subject: touch screens >>> >>> Message Body: >>> I am wondering if there are plans to make phratch (and I guess pharo >>> also) work with touch screens. >>> >>> Ralph Boland >>> >>> -- >>> This e-mail was sent from a contact form on Phratch >>> (http://www.phratch.com) >>> >> >> > > -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Enseignant-chercheur IUT Lumière, Université Lyon Lumière laboratoire DISP http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info
[Pharo-users] [Ann] Phratch 4.1 is here !
Based on Phratch 4.0 we made some bug fixes and added new small features. Phratch is now on top of Pharo 4.0. The new features are: - languages are more stable. Thanks to the community for the feedback and the enhancement of the language files. - Add a "follow" option that allows one to see which block is currently executed. Phratch 4.1 is already available on phratch.com. If you detect an issue, you can submit a description on https://github.com/janniklaval/phratch/issues And you can always download the latest build on the continuous integration server: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Phratch/ See you on phratch.com -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Enseignant-chercheur IUT Lumière <http://iut.univ-lyon2.fr/>, Université Lyon Lumière <http://www.univ-lyon2.fr/> laboratoire DISP <http://disp-lab.fr/> http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info
Re: [Pharo-users] Fwd: Fwd: Phratch + Debian
Thank you Stef ! Jannik 2016-03-09 22:03 GMT+01:00 stepharo <steph...@free.fr>: > Cool initiative! > Tx Jannik > I blogged it and twitted it :) > > > Le 9/3/16 08:47, jannik laval a écrit : > > Finally, I made it. > > It is available here: http://www.phratch.com/download/phratch.deb > > Best regards, > Jannik > > 2016-03-07 12:18 GMT+01:00 Hilaire <hila...@drgeo.eu>: > >> In last resort, it is still possible for a LiveCD to get Pratch >> installed even if not a Deb package. >> >> But yes, Pratch will greatly gain exposure being a Deb package, >> propagated to the debian family distribution. I write that, but DrGeo is >> not deb packaged as well... >> >> Good luck. >> >> Hilaire >> >> Le 07/03/2016 08:32, jannik laval a écrit : >> > >> > I send the email to the pharo community. >> > Can someone help us to create a phratch .deb package ? >> > >> > The need is for a french professor who needs to create a debian live >> > distrib for education. He want to include phratch instead of scratch / >> > snap ... >> > So, it is a great opportunity for us. >> > >> > Thank you for your help. >> > Jannik >> >> -- >> Dr. Geo >> http://drgeo.eu >> >> >> > > > -- > ~~Jannik Laval~~ > Enseignant-chercheur > Responsable Pédagogique Licence Coordonnateur de Projet en Système > d'Information > IUT Lumière, Université Lyon Lumière > laboratoire DISP > http://www.jannik-laval.eu > http://www.phratch.com > http://www.approchealpes.info > > > -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Enseignant-chercheur Responsable Pédagogique Licence Coordonnateur de Projet en Système d'Information IUT Lumière, Université Lyon Lumière laboratoire DISP http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info
[Pharo-users] CFP - IWST 2016 - International Workshop on Smalltalk Technologies
[Please accept our apologies if you receive multiple copies of this call] [Please send to interested colleagues / mailing-lists] CALL FOR PAPERS IWST16 — International Workshop on Smalltalk Technologies Prague, Czech Republic; August 23th, 2016 --- Goals and scopes --- The goals of the workshop is to create a forum around advances or experience in Smalltalk and to trigger discussions and exchanges of ideas. The topics of your paper can be on all aspect of Smalltalk, theoretical as well as practical. Participants are invited to submit research articles or industrial papers. This year we want to open two different tracks: one research track and one industrial track with less scientific constraints. We expect papers of three kinds: Short position papers describing emerging ideas Long research papers with deeper description of experiments and of research results. Industrial papers with presentation of real and innovative Smalltalk applications; this kind of paper should enlighten why Smalltalk is really appropriate for your application. We will not enforce any length restriction. Important Dates Submission deadline: *May 15th, 2016* Notification deadline: June 20th, 2016 Workshop : August 23th, 2016 *All accepted papers will be published in ACM DL (To be confirmed)* *Best papers would be extended in an International Journal* --- Topics --- We welcome contributions on all aspects, theoretical as well as practical, of Smalltalk related topics such as: -Aspect-oriented programming, -Design patterns, -Experience reports, -Frameworks, -Implementation, new dialects or languages implemented in Smalltalk, -Interaction with other languages, -Meta-programming and Meta-modeling, -Tools --- Best Paper Award --- To encourage the submission of high-quality papers, the IWST organizing committee is very proud to announce a Best Paper Award for this edition of IWST. We thank the Lam Research Corporation for its financial contribution which makes it possible for prizes for the three best papers: 1000 USD for first place, 600 USD for second place and 400 USD for third place. The ranking will be decided by the program committee during the review process. The awards will be given during the ESUG conference social event. The Best Paper Award will take place only with a minimum of six submissions. Notice also that to be illegible, a paper must be presented at the workshop by one of the author and that the presenting author must be registered at the ESUG conference. --- Publication --- Both submissions and final papers must be prepared using the ACM SIGPLAN 10 point format. Templates for Word and LaTeX are available at http://www.acm.org/sigs/sigplan/authorInformation.htm. This site also contains links to useful informations on how to write effective submissions. --- Submission --- All submissions must be sent via easychair: https://easychair.org/conferences/?conf=iwst20160 --- Program chairs --- Anne Etien (Université de Lille 1, France) Jannik Laval (Université Lyon 2 Lumière, France) -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Enseignant-chercheur Responsable Pédagogique Licence Coordonnateur de Projet en Système d'Information IUT Lumière, Université Lyon Lumière laboratoire DISP http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info
Re: [Pharo-users] Fwd: Fwd: Phratch + Debian
Thank you Hilaire, I will register on this list. Jannik 2016-03-09 15:12 GMT+01:00 Hilaire <hila...@drgeo.eu>: > Hey:) > There are some discussions on educ@April, Phratch being mentionned a > couple of times (some by myself ;) > > Keep the good work. > > Hilaire > > Le 09/03/2016 08:47, jannik laval a écrit : > > Finally, I made it. > > > > It is available here: http://www.phratch.com/download/phratch.deb > > > > -- > Dr. Geo > http://drgeo.eu > > > -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Enseignant-chercheur Responsable Pédagogique Licence Coordonnateur de Projet en Système d'Information IUT Lumière, Université Lyon Lumière laboratoire DISP http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info
Re: [Pharo-users] Fwd: Fwd: Phratch + Debian
Hi Markus, I send the email to the pharo community. Can someone help us to create a phratch .deb package ? The need is for a french professor who needs to create a debian live distrib for education. He want to include phratch instead of scratch / snap ... So, it is a great opportunity for us. Thank you for your help. Jannik 2016-02-29 19:50 GMT+01:00 Markus Fritsche <mfrits...@reauktion.de>: > Hello Jannik, > > I fetched the sources of the existing phratch package, but was not able to > create a package from that :-( > > Can you ask on the mailing list if there's somebody else knowing (more > than I do) about debian packaging? > > I will gladly add anybody (reputable) to the ppa administrators. > > Kind regards, > Markus > > > Am 29.02.2016 um 10:03 schrieb jannik laval: > > So, what is the status ? > Did you already have problems ? > > Jannik > > 2016-02-16 20:53 GMT+01:00 Damien Cassou <damien.cas...@inria.fr>: > >> On February 16, 2016 7:36:13 PM GMT+01:00, Markus Fritsche < >> mfrits...@reauktion.de> wrote: >> >Hello Damien, >> > >> >do you happen to have a script I can start from to download the Phratch >> > >> >image and create the source tarball? I am trying to do it manually but >> >I >> >am in a bit of cargo cult mode here :o) >> >> I gave you everything I had. Debian packaging is way too complex. I >> encourage everyone to try Nix on their Unix OS. I definitely adopted it. >> >> -- >> Damien Cassou >> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >> >> "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without >> losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill >> > > > > -- > ~~Jannik Laval~~ > Enseignant-chercheur > Responsable Pédagogique Licence Coordonnateur de Projet en Système > d'Information > IUT Lumière, Université Lyon Lumière > laboratoire DISP > http://www.jannik-laval.eu > http://www.phratch.com > http://www.approchealpes.info > > > -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Enseignant-chercheur Responsable Pédagogique Licence Coordonnateur de Projet en Système d'Information IUT Lumière, Université Lyon Lumière laboratoire DISP http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info
Re: [Pharo-users] Fwd: Fwd: Phratch + Debian
Finally, I made it. It is available here: http://www.phratch.com/download/phratch.deb Best regards, Jannik 2016-03-07 12:18 GMT+01:00 Hilaire <hila...@drgeo.eu>: > In last resort, it is still possible for a LiveCD to get Pratch > installed even if not a Deb package. > > But yes, Pratch will greatly gain exposure being a Deb package, > propagated to the debian family distribution. I write that, but DrGeo is > not deb packaged as well... > > Good luck. > > Hilaire > > Le 07/03/2016 08:32, jannik laval a écrit : > > > > I send the email to the pharo community. > > Can someone help us to create a phratch .deb package ? > > > > The need is for a french professor who needs to create a debian live > > distrib for education. He want to include phratch instead of scratch / > > snap ... > > So, it is a great opportunity for us. > > > > Thank you for your help. > > Jannik > > -- > Dr. Geo > http://drgeo.eu > > > -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Enseignant-chercheur Responsable Pédagogique Licence Coordonnateur de Projet en Système d'Information IUT Lumière, Université Lyon Lumière laboratoire DISP http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info
[Pharo-users] Reminder: CFP - IWST 2016 - International Workshop on Smalltalk Technologies
[Please accept our apologies if you receive multiple copies of this call] [Please send to interested colleagues / mailing-lists] CALL FOR PAPERS IWST16 — International Workshop on Smalltalk Technologies Prague, Czech Republic; August 23th, 2016 http://www.esug.org/wiki/pier/Conferences/2016/International-Workshop-IWST_16 --- Goals and scopes --- The goals of the workshop is to create a forum around advances or experience in Smalltalk and to trigger discussions and exchanges of ideas. The topics of your paper can be on all aspect of Smalltalk, theoretical as well as practical. Participants are invited to submit research articles or industrial papers. This year we want to open two different tracks: one research track and one industrial track with less scientific constraints. We expect papers of three kinds: - Short position papers describing emerging ideas - Long research papers with deeper description of experiments and of research results. - Industrial papers with presentation of real and innovative Smalltalk applications; this kind of paper should enlighten why Smalltalk is really appropriate for your application. *We will not enforce any length restriction.* Important Dates Submission deadline: *May 15th, 2016* Notification deadline: June 20th, 2016 Camera-ready : July 13th, 2016 Workshop : August 23th, 2016 *All accepted papers will be published in ACM DL (To be confirmed)* *Best papers would be extended in an International Journal* --- Topics --- We welcome contributions on all aspects, theoretical as well as practical, of Smalltalk related topics such as: -Aspect-oriented programming, -Design patterns, -Experience reports, -Frameworks, -Implementation, new dialects or languages implemented in Smalltalk, -Interaction with other languages, -Meta-programming and Meta-modeling, -Tools --- Best Paper Award --- To encourage the submission of high-quality papers, the IWST organizing committee is very proud to announce a Best Paper Award for this edition of IWST. We thank the Lam Research Corporation for its financial contribution which makes it possible for prizes for the three best papers: 1000 USD for first place, 600 USD for second place and 400 USD for third place. The ranking will be decided by the program committee during the review process. The awards will be given during the ESUG conference social event. The Best Paper Award will take place only with a minimum of six submissions. Notice also that to be illegible, a paper must be presented at the workshop by one of the author and that the presenting author must be registered at the ESUG conference. --- Publication --- Both submissions and final papers must be prepared using the ACM SIGPLAN 10 point format. Templates for Word and LaTeX are available at http://www.acm.org/sigs/sigplan/authorInformation.htm. This site also contains links to useful informations on how to write effective submissions. --- Submission --- All submissions must be sent via easychair: https://easychair.org/conferences/?conf=iwst20160 --- Program chairs --- Anne Etien (Université de Lille 1, France) Jannik Laval (Université Lyon 2 Lumière, France) -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Enseignant-chercheur Responsable Pédagogique Licence Coordonnateur de Projet en Système d'Information IUT Lumière, Université Lyon Lumière laboratoire DISP http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info
