[Phono-L] Claude Wolledge Edison Dealer Christchurch NZ
Hi Steve, yes I have seen those machines you mentoned. In George Frows book you will see Claude Wolledges Amberola 30, I know of a few in Chirstchurch. Edison not interested at the time. The Amberola 80 was here in Hawkes Bay for a while, now resides in Dunedin in Tony McCarthys collection. Once belonged to Wallly Golledge of Nelson. Veteran phono collectors from way back may have known of Wally. I used to stay with him in Nelson some twenty years ago. There is a 60 in Nelson that belongs to Roger Cole. Edison Hall in Christchurch home to Dealer Claude Wolledge is no more. Remember seeing it and the date of 1929 on a concrete facade. The earhquakes took care of that! A collector friend had a table model diamond disc land on top of his cherished HMV Monarch Senior. Eqalivent to that of a Victor 6 ? Smashed the horn beyond repair, so so sad.Has anybody got an english HMV speartip horn lying around that is of no use? Wonder how many machines and collections have been lost this way. Your Hurricane season for instance! So I take it that Union will be held on the 8,9, and 10th of June 20012. Hey I would love to help out with folk setting up there stalls at Union. May need a sofa or a camp stretcher to sleep on. Kiwis come out at night nocturnal, and peck at phonographs! Ha Ha. When I was in my twenties, I stayed with Elmer Jones and his wife Juanita, in Glendora West Orange. What a lovely man. Both sadly have gone! I bought back a cygent horn, in a green rubbish bag on the plane! HELL, I went though. Should have bought back a dozen! Love the Arts and Crafts Art Nouveau movement and impact it had on talking machines, especially those from Europe. Would love to see some examples on here, if possible.NZ was dominated by engllish HMV. Got a Victor 3, and 4. Looking for a nice Victor 5 without the horn if poss! The horn is sitting on the floor staring at me, looking for a mate! Still looking for a nice example of a Amberola 5. Have the Amberol a BV111. They call it a cake tin? Mine has the complete top bedplate all in one piece with the stuffs of grass on all four corners, I believe hard to find? Love to corresponde with folk from all over the world. Time to play the Song of the Prune again. Frank Crummit, love his records. Cheers Mark Dawson NZ. slowp...@clear.net.nz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Claude Wolledge Edison Dealer Christchurch NZ
HI Mark, It's good to hear of all those wonderful machines in New Zealand. And the earthquake obviously was devastating to collections in Christchurch. I wish I had known of the collectors in Christchurch and Dunedin when I was there a few years ago. But I did manage to hook up with Rod Corn near Auckland. He has a wonderful collection of phonos and music boxes. He has a terrific EMG machine which he played for me. And thousands of 78 records that he wanted me to organize for him. That would have been hard to do in the one day I spent with him! You hadn't mentioned him, but I am assuming you know of him. He has a great sense of history being the head of the local historical society. We have a chapter of MAPS here in Colorado. When you come to Union you are welcome to come and visit Colorado and Denver. We all have our versions of weird machines! --Art Heller, Old West Antique Phonograph Society In a message dated 7/18/11 2:17:43 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, slowp...@clear.net.nz writes: Hi Steve, yes I have seen those machines you mentoned. In George Frows book you will see Claude Wolledges Amberola 30, I know of a few in Chirstchurch. Edison not interested at the time. The Amberola 80 was here in Hawkes Bay for a while, now resides in Dunedin in Tony McCarthys collection. Once belonged to Wallly Golledge of Nelson. Veteran phono collectors from way back may have known of Wally. I used to stay with him in Nelson some twenty years ago. There is a 60 in Nelson that belongs to Roger Cole. Edison Hall in Christchurch home to Dealer Claude Wolledge is no more. Remember seeing it and the date of 1929 on a concrete facade. The earhquakes took care of that! A collector friend had a table model diamond disc land on top of his cherished HMV Monarch Senior. Eqalivent to that of a Victor 6 ? Smashed the horn beyond repair, so so sad.Has anybody got an english HMV speartip horn lying around that is of no use? Wonder how many machines and collections have been lost this way. Your Hurricane season for instance! So I take it that Union will be held on the 8,9, and 10th of June 20012. Hey I would love to help out with folk setting up there stalls at Union. May need a sofa or a camp stretcher to sleep on. Kiwis come out at night nocturnal, and peck at phonographs! Ha Ha. When I was in my twenties, I stayed with Elmer Jones and his wife Juanita, in Glendora West Orange. What a lovely man. Both sadly have gone! I bought back a cygent horn, in a green rubbish bag on the plane! HELL, I went though. Should have bought back a dozen! Love the Arts and Crafts Art Nouveau movement and impact it had on talking machines, especially those from Europe. Would love to see some examples on here, if possible.NZ was dominated by engllish HMV. Got a Victor 3, and 4. Looking for a nice Victor 5 without the horn if poss! The horn is sitting on the floor staring at me, looking for a mate! Still looking for a nice example of a Amberola 5. Have the Amberol a BV111. They call it a cake tin? Mine has the complete top bedplate all in one piece with the stuffs of grass on all four corners, I believe hard to find? Love to corresponde with folk from all over the world. Time to play the Song of the Prune again. Frank Crummit, love his records. Cheers Mark Dawson NZ. slowp...@clear.net.nz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] auction fees
Thanks to all who gave info about auction fees. I asked for their take to be 20% and to put a reserve on the Hexaphone and Zonophone (worth thousands each). THe auctioneer, WOODBURY Auctions then declined...tells ya somethin! I realized later, that a ringer could come in and buy my multi-thousand machines for a few hundred and make off like a bandit if I didn't have a reserve! At first they asked for 35% + shipping costs, then went down to 25% with no charge for shipping. BUT, the mention of reserve suddenly turned them off. Just something to think about...RESERVES are very very important. They may be a put-off to some, but to the seller are critical and I'm very grateful for the replies I got here. Thanks folks, many thanks!!! Ger If anyone hears of an auction or buyer willing to take on my collection fairly, please let me know...still would like to clear it out (northwest CT)...for real this time. ;) Besides the Hex and Zono, there are 4 Edisons, a Vic, a Herbert (reproducer area incorrectly fixed), over a dozen horns including one extra large round brass, a bunch of parts, and over 500 records, about half of which look like decent blue Amberols (a couple of other odd ones too some good wax). Everything is catalogued, including a few dozen fat flat records and a Diamond Disc head with diamond. I've had offers for the 2 main machines, but don't want to be cherry-picked. :) PS: For any one who finds some of the discussion here unrelated to their immediate situation, I suggest that rather than drop out totally, get put on daily digest...it works well for me, and I actually enjoy it. Thanks for that too. - Original Message - From: phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, July 4, 2011 11:08:24 PM Subject: Phono-L Digest, Vol 8, Issue 197 Send Phono-L mailing list submissions to phono-l@oldcrank.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org You can reach the person managing the list at phono-l-ow...@oldcrank.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Phono-L digest... If you reply, please change your subject line and don't include this entire digest in your message. Today's Topics: 1. VTLA wheel casters (jkship) 2. Re: VTLA wheel casters (David Dazer) 3. Re: auction fees (Richard Mazur) 4. Re: Dearborn trip--Edison's last breath (b...@taney.com) 5. Recreating Edison's Inventions... very educational... was Dearborn... (clockworkh...@aol.com) 6. My Dearborn trip (Ken and Brenda Brekke) 7. Edison (Michael Tucker) 8. Re: Recreating Edison's Inventions... very educational... was Dearborn... (Steven Medved) 9. Re: VTLA wheel casters (jkship) 10. Re: VTLA wheel casters (Ron L'Herault) 11. Re: Edison feedscrew on mandrel shaft... Triumph, M,Home... (clockworkh...@aol.com) 12. Re: VTLA wheel casters (jkship) 13. Re: Edison feedscrew on mandrel shaft... Triumph, M,Home... (john robles) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 13:56:24 -0600 From: jkship jks...@bresnan.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] VTLA wheel casters Message-ID: 16F2FFE8882542FE91FEE85D1552AC9A@SHIPLEYSDELL Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 I am trying to locate a set of four ball bearing type wheel casters for an early VTLA. The part is a brass cup with a pressed on shoulder. The small end of the cup slides up into the leg of the phonograph. In the bottom of one of the cups is the remnant of a ball bearing ring. The open end of the cup has a distinct crimp that I assume held the wheel. Obviously, the three parts I have are missing the wheel assembly. I checked with George and Ron to no avail... Thanks -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 13:15:13 -0700 (PDT) From: David Dazer dda...@sbcglobal.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] VTLA wheel casters Message-ID: 1309810513.71949.yahoomailclas...@web81701.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Were they only used on the VTLA?? I just parted out a VV-XIV and saved those casters and related parts. In fact, they are still attached to the legs. Let me know if that would be of any use to you. Dave --- On Mon, 7/4/11, jkship jks...@bresnan.net wrote: From: jkship jks...@bresnan.net Subject: [Phono-L] VTLA wheel casters To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Monday, July 4, 2011, 3:56 PM I am trying to locate a set of four ball bearing type wheel casters for an early VTLA.? The part is a brass cup with a pressed on shoulder. The small end of the cup slides
Re: [Phono-L] auction fees
You should contact one of the Antique Phonograph Societies in your area (preferably a maps chapter) and have a delegation of the members come out there. Their members are very knowledgable and will give a fair price for your items, and won't rip you off. They are collectors, not someone trying low ball everything and then resell it for a huge profit. That way you avoid all the pretenders, and the rip off artists. Cash and carry, no advertising, no middle man, no commissions, just cash money, to take your precious stuff away where it will have a good home. - Original Message - From: ge...@comcast.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Cc: ge...@comcast.net Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 1:48:31 PM Subject: [Phono-L] auction fees Thanks to all who gave info about auction fees. I asked for their take to be 20% and to put a reserve on the Hexaphone and Zonophone (worth thousands each). THe auctioneer, WOODBURY Auctions then declined...tells ya somethin! I realized later, that a ringer could come in and buy my multi-thousand machines for a few hundred and make off like a bandit if I didn't have a reserve! At first they asked for 35% + shipping costs, then went down to 25% with no charge for shipping. BUT, the mention of reserve suddenly turned them off. Just something to think about...RESERVES are very very important. They may be a put-off to some, but to the seller are critical and I'm very grateful for the replies I got here. Thanks folks, many thanks!!! Ger If anyone hears of an auction or buyer willing to take on my collection fairly, please let me know...still would like to clear it out (northwest CT)...for real this time. ;) Besides the Hex and Zono, there are 4 Edisons, a Vic, a Herbert (reproducer area incorrectly fixed), over a dozen horns including one extra large round brass, a bunch of parts, and over 500 records, about half of which look like decent blue Amberols (a couple of other odd ones too some good wax). Everything is catalogued, including a few dozen fat flat records and a Diamond Disc head with diamond. I've had offers for the 2 main machines, but don't want to be cherry-picked. :) PS: For any one who finds some of the discussion here unrelated to their immediate situation, I suggest that rather than drop out totally, get put on daily digest...it works well for me, and I actually enjoy it. Thanks for that too. - Original Message - From: phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, July 4, 2011 11:08:24 PM Subject: Phono-L Digest, Vol 8, Issue 197 Send Phono-L mailing list submissions to phono-l@oldcrank.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org You can reach the person managing the list at phono-l-ow...@oldcrank.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Phono-L digest... If you reply, please change your subject line and don't include this entire digest in your message. Today's Topics: 1. VTLA wheel casters (jkship) 2. Re: VTLA wheel casters (David Dazer) 3. Re: auction fees (Richard Mazur) 4. Re: Dearborn trip--Edison's last breath (b...@taney.com) 5. Recreating Edison's Inventions... very educational... was Dearborn... (clockworkh...@aol.com) 6. My Dearborn trip (Ken and Brenda Brekke) 7. Edison (Michael Tucker) 8. Re: Recreating Edison's Inventions... very educational... was Dearborn... (Steven Medved) 9. Re: VTLA wheel casters (jkship) 10. Re: VTLA wheel casters (Ron L'Herault) 11. Re: Edison feedscrew on mandrel shaft... Triumph, M, Home... (clockworkh...@aol.com) 12. Re: VTLA wheel casters (jkship) 13. Re: Edison feedscrew on mandrel shaft... Triumph, M, Home... (john robles) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 13:56:24 -0600 From: jkship jks...@bresnan.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] VTLA wheel casters Message-ID: 16F2FFE8882542FE91FEE85D1552AC9A@SHIPLEYSDELL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I am trying to locate a set of four ball bearing type wheel casters for an early VTLA. The part is a brass cup with a pressed on shoulder. The small end of the cup slides up into the leg of the phonograph. In the bottom of one of the cups is the remnant of a ball bearing ring. The open end of the cup has a distinct crimp that I assume held the wheel. Obviously, the three parts I have are missing the wheel assembly. I checked with George and Ron to no avail... Thanks -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 13:15:13 -0700 (PDT) From: David Dazer dda...@sbcglobal.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] VTLA wheel casters Message-ID:
Re: [Phono-L] auction fees
Maybe you ought to contact Stanton's Auctions and talk to them about a consignment. They have their fall phonograph auction coming up in Nov. They do pickup. Steve knows his stuff and is very honest and reliable. Thank you, George Vollema Great Lakes Antique Phonograph Newaygo MI 49337-8556 www.victroladoctor.com - Original Message - From: ge...@comcast.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Cc: ge...@comcast.net Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 1:48 PM Subject: [Phono-L] auction fees Thanks to all who gave info about auction fees. I asked for their take to be 20% and to put a reserve on the Hexaphone and Zonophone (worth thousands each). THe auctioneer, WOODBURY Auctions then declined...tells ya somethin! I realized later, that a ringer could come in and buy my multi-thousand machines for a few hundred and make off like a bandit if I didn't have a reserve! At first they asked for 35% + shipping costs, then went down to 25% with no charge for shipping. BUT, the mention of reserve suddenly turned them off. Just something to think about...RESERVES are very very important. They may be a put-off to some, but to the seller are critical and I'm very grateful for the replies I got here. Thanks folks, many thanks!!! Ger If anyone hears of an auction or buyer willing to take on my collection fairly, please let me know...still would like to clear it out (northwest CT)...for real this time. ;) Besides the Hex and Zono, there are 4 Edisons, a Vic, a Herbert (reproducer area incorrectly fixed), over a dozen horns including one extra large round brass, a bunch of parts, and over 500 records, about half of which look like decent blue Amberols (a couple of other odd ones too some good wax). Everything is catalogued, including a few dozen fat flat records and a Diamond Disc head with diamond. I've had offers for the 2 main machines, but don't want to be cherry-picked. :) PS: For any one who finds some of the discussion here unrelated to their immediate situation, I suggest that rather than drop out totally, get put on daily digest...it works well for me, and I actually enjoy it. Thanks for that too. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] auction fees
Just curious what reason did they give you for declining your request for a reserve on the high ticket items? You are entitled to an explanation. - Original Message - From: ge...@comcast.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Cc: ge...@comcast.net Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 1:48:31 PM Subject: [Phono-L] auction fees Thanks to all who gave info about auction fees. I asked for their take to be 20% and to put a reserve on the Hexaphone and Zonophone (worth thousands each). THe auctioneer, WOODBURY Auctions then declined...tells ya somethin! I realized later, that a ringer could come in and buy my multi-thousand machines for a few hundred and make off like a bandit if I didn't have a reserve! At first they asked for 35% + shipping costs, then went down to 25% with no charge for shipping. BUT, the mention of reserve suddenly turned them off. Just something to think about...RESERVES are very very important. They may be a put-off to some, but to the seller are critical and I'm very grateful for the replies I got here. Thanks folks, many thanks!!! Ger If anyone hears of an auction or buyer willing to take on my collection fairly, please let me know...still would like to clear it out (northwest CT)...for real this time. ;) Besides the Hex and Zono, there are 4 Edisons, a Vic, a Herbert (reproducer area incorrectly fixed), over a dozen horns including one extra large round brass, a bunch of parts, and over 500 records, about half of which look like decent blue Amberols (a couple of other odd ones too some good wax). Everything is catalogued, including a few dozen fat flat records and a Diamond Disc head with diamond. I've had offers for the 2 main machines, but don't want to be cherry-picked. :) PS: For any one who finds some of the discussion here unrelated to their immediate situation, I suggest that rather than drop out totally, get put on daily digest...it works well for me, and I actually enjoy it. Thanks for that too. - Original Message - From: phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, July 4, 2011 11:08:24 PM Subject: Phono-L Digest, Vol 8, Issue 197 Send Phono-L mailing list submissions to phono-l@oldcrank.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org You can reach the person managing the list at phono-l-ow...@oldcrank.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Phono-L digest... If you reply, please change your subject line and don't include this entire digest in your message. Today's Topics: 1. VTLA wheel casters (jkship) 2. Re: VTLA wheel casters (David Dazer) 3. Re: auction fees (Richard Mazur) 4. Re: Dearborn trip--Edison's last breath (b...@taney.com) 5. Recreating Edison's Inventions... very educational... was Dearborn... (clockworkh...@aol.com) 6. My Dearborn trip (Ken and Brenda Brekke) 7. Edison (Michael Tucker) 8. Re: Recreating Edison's Inventions... very educational... was Dearborn... (Steven Medved) 9. Re: VTLA wheel casters (jkship) 10. Re: VTLA wheel casters (Ron L'Herault) 11. Re: Edison feedscrew on mandrel shaft... Triumph, M, Home... (clockworkh...@aol.com) 12. Re: VTLA wheel casters (jkship) 13. Re: Edison feedscrew on mandrel shaft... Triumph, M, Home... (john robles) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 13:56:24 -0600 From: jkship jks...@bresnan.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] VTLA wheel casters Message-ID: 16F2FFE8882542FE91FEE85D1552AC9A@SHIPLEYSDELL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I am trying to locate a set of four ball bearing type wheel casters for an early VTLA. The part is a brass cup with a pressed on shoulder. The small end of the cup slides up into the leg of the phonograph. In the bottom of one of the cups is the remnant of a ball bearing ring. The open end of the cup has a distinct crimp that I assume held the wheel. Obviously, the three parts I have are missing the wheel assembly. I checked with George and Ron to no avail... Thanks -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 13:15:13 -0700 (PDT) From: David Dazer dda...@sbcglobal.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] VTLA wheel casters Message-ID: 1309810513.71949.yahoomailclas...@web81701.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Were they only used on the VTLA?? I just parted out a VV-XIV and saved those casters and related parts. In fact, they are still attached to the legs. Let me know if that would be of any use to you. Dave --- On Mon, 7/4/11, jkship jks...@bresnan.net wrote: From: jkship jks...@bresnan.net Subject: [Phono-L] VTLA wheel casters To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date:
[Phono-L] Fw: You MUST see this! - Singing bird pistols
Hi Gang, I got this video from one of my buddies. If you want to see the ultimate Automaton or singing birds, this is it! Harvey Kravitz - Forwarded Message From: Jerry OConnor jerryo11...@yahoo.com To: Dave Kushner dakush...@gmail.com Sent: Sun, July 17, 2011 7:19:34 PM Subject: Fw: You MUST see this! - Singing bird pistols These singing bird pistols (circa 1820) were sold at Christie's International in Hong Kong on May 20 for $5.8 million.You won't believe the beauty of them until you view the video below. Pair of singing bird pistols from 1820 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Fw: You MUST see this! - Singing bird pistols
Hi Harvey,There is no link on our end and now we really want to see this video. :)Nick and MelissaNew To Phono-L --- On Mon, 7/18/11, harvey kravitz harveykrav...@yahoo.com wrote: From: harvey kravitz harveykrav...@yahoo.com Subject: [Phono-L] Fw: You MUST see this! - Singing bird pistols To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Monday, July 18, 2011, 5:31 PM Hi Gang, I got this video from one of my buddies. If you want to see the ultimate Automaton or singing birds, this is it! Harvey Kravitz - Forwarded Message From: Jerry OConnor jerryo11...@yahoo.com To: Dave Kushner dakush...@gmail.com Sent: Sun, July 17, 2011 7:19:34 PM Subject: Fw: You MUST see this! - Singing bird pistols These singing bird pistols (circa 1820) were sold at Christie's International in Hong Kong on May 20 for $5.8 million.You won't believe the beauty of them until you view the video below. Pair of singing bird pistols from 1820 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Fw: You MUST see this! - Singing bird pistols
I hope the link shows up on this one. Harvey Kravitz - Forwarded Message From: Jerry OConnor jerryo11...@yahoo.com To: Dave Kushner dakush...@gmail.com Sent: Sun, July 17, 2011 7:19:34 PM Subject: Fw: You MUST see this! - Singing bird pistols These singing bird pistols (circa 1820) were sold at Christie's International in Hong Kong on May 20 for $5.8 million.You won't believe the beauty of them until you view the video below. Pair of singing bird pistols from 1820 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Fw: You MUST see this! - Singing bird pistols
Dear Melissa, I resent it out to Phono-l. I hope it works this time. Harvey Kravitz From: Melissa Ricci riccib...@yahoo.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Mon, July 18, 2011 2:56:47 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fw: You MUST see this! - Singing bird pistols Hi Harvey,There is no link on our end and now we really want to see this video. :)Nick and MelissaNew To Phono-L --- On Mon, 7/18/11, harvey kravitz harveykrav...@yahoo.com wrote: From: harvey kravitz harveykrav...@yahoo.com Subject: [Phono-L] Fw: You MUST see this! - Singing bird pistols To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Monday, July 18, 2011, 5:31 PM Hi Gang, I got this video from one of my buddies. If you want to see the ultimate Automaton or singing birds, this is it! Harvey Kravitz - Forwarded Message From: Jerry OConnor jerryo11...@yahoo.com To: Dave Kushner dakush...@gmail.com Sent: Sun, July 17, 2011 7:19:34 PM Subject: Fw: You MUST see this! - Singing bird pistols These singing bird pistols (circa 1820) were sold at Christie's International in Hong Kong on May 20 for $5.8 million.You won't believe the beauty of them until you view the video below. Pair of singing bird pistols from 1820 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Singing bird pistols of 1820
Hi Gang I tried to forward the message, but the link won't show up on the email. If you go to Yahoo video and type in Singing bird pistols of 1820, It should come up. It's very interesting to see this. The craftsmanship in amazing. This is the ultimate Automaton or singing bird. Harvey Kravitz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Singing bird pistols of 1820
Wow! That was absolutely amazing! Thanks for sharing! --- On Mon, 7/18/11, harvey kravitz harveykrav...@yahoo.com wrote: From: harvey kravitz harveykrav...@yahoo.com Subject: [Phono-L] Singing bird pistols of 1820 To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Monday, July 18, 2011, 6:27 PM Hi Gang I tried to forward the message, but the link won't show up on the email. If you go to Yahoo video and type in Singing bird pistols of 1820, It should come up. It's very interesting to see this. The craftsmanship in amazing. This is the ultimate Automaton or singing bird. Harvey Kravitz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Singing bird pistols of 1820
Just take it over to Youtube. It there.. WWW. youtube.com/watch?v=yf5_a_AXivM Join the link back together. oldcranky On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 3:27 PM, harvey kravitz harveykrav...@yahoo.comwrote: Hi Gang I tried to forward the message, but the link won't show up on the email. If you go to Yahoo video and type in Singing bird pistols of 1820, It should come up. It's very interesting to see this. The craftsmanship in amazing. This is the ultimate Automaton or singing bird. Harvey Kravitz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Singing bird pistols of 1820
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_QL8C4l6W4 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:33:53 -0700 From: smst...@gmail.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Singing bird pistols of 1820 Just take it over to Youtube. It there.. WWW. youtube.com/watch?v=yf5_a_AXivM Join the link back together. oldcranky On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 3:27 PM, harvey kravitz harveykrav...@yahoo.comwrote: Hi Gang I tried to forward the message, but the link won't show up on the email. If you go to Yahoo video and type in Singing bird pistols of 1820, It should come up. It's very interesting to see this. The craftsmanship in amazing. This is the ultimate Automaton or singing bird. Harvey Kravitz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] auction fees
What model Hexaphone do you have for sale? Thanks. -Original Message- From: ger55 ge...@comcast.net To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Cc: ger55 ge...@comcast.net Sent: Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:51 pm Subject: [Phono-L] auction fees Thanks to all who gave info about auction fees. I asked for their take to be 20% nd to put a reserve on the Hexaphone and Zonophone (worth thousands each). THe uctioneer, WOODBURY Auctions then declined...tells ya somethin! I realized ater, that a ringer could come in and buy my multi-thousand machines for a ew hundred and make off like a bandit if I didn't have a reserve! At first they asked for 35% + shipping costs, then went down to 25% with no harge for shipping. BUT, the mention of reserve suddenly turned them off. Just something to think about...RESERVES are very very important. They may be a ut-off to some, but to the seller are critical and I'm very grateful for the eplies I got here. Thanks folks, many thanks!!! Ger If anyone hears of an auction or buyer willing to take on my collection fairly, lease let me know...still would like to clear it out (northwest CT)...for real his time. ;) Besides the Hex and Zono, there are 4 Edisons, a Vic, a Herbert (reproducer area ncorrectly fixed), over a dozen horns including one extra large round brass, a unch of parts, and over 500 records, about half of which look like decent blue mberols (a couple of other odd ones too some good wax). Everything is atalogued, including a few dozen fat flat records and a Diamond Disc head with iamond. I've had offers for the 2 main machines, but don't want to be herry-picked. :) PS: For any one who finds some of the discussion here unrelated to their mmediate situation, I suggest that rather than drop out totally, get put on aily digest...it works well for me, and I actually enjoy it. Thanks for that oo. - Original Message - rom: phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org o: phono-l@oldcrank.org ent: Monday, July 4, 2011 11:08:24 PM ubject: Phono-L Digest, Vol 8, Issue 197 Send Phono-L mailing list submissions to phono-l@oldcrank.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l r, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org You can reach the person managing the list at phono-l-ow...@oldcrank.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific han Re: Contents of Phono-L digest... f you reply, please change your subject line and don't include this entire igest in your message. Today's Topics: 1. VTLA wheel casters (jkship) 2. Re: VTLA wheel casters (David Dazer) 3. Re: auction fees (Richard Mazur) 4. Re: Dearborn trip--Edison's last breath (b...@taney.com) 5. Recreating Edison's Inventions... very educational... was Dearborn... (clockworkh...@aol.com) 6. My Dearborn trip (Ken and Brenda Brekke) 7. Edison (Michael Tucker) 8. Re: Recreating Edison's Inventions... very educational... was Dearborn... (Steven Medved) 9. Re: VTLA wheel casters (jkship) 10. Re: VTLA wheel casters (Ron L'Herault) 11. Re: Edison feedscrew on mandrel shaft... Triumph, M,Home... (clockworkh...@aol.com) 12. Re: VTLA wheel casters (jkship) 13. Re: Edison feedscrew on mandrel shaft... Triumph, M,Home... (john robles) - Message: 1 ate: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 13:56:24 -0600 rom: jkship jks...@bresnan.net o: phono-l@oldcrank.org ubject: [Phono-L] VTLA wheel casters essage-ID: 16F2FFE8882542FE91FEE85D1552AC9A@SHIPLEYSDELL ontent-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 I am trying to locate a set of four ball bearing type wheel casters for an arly VTLA. The part is a brass cup with a pressed on shoulder. The small end f the cup slides up into the leg of the phonograph. In the bottom of one of the ups is the remnant of a ball bearing ring. The open end of the cup has a istinct crimp that I assume held the wheel. Obviously, the three parts I have re missing the wheel assembly. I checked with George and Ron to no avail... hanks -- Message: 2 ate: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 13:15:13 -0700 (PDT) rom: David Dazer dda...@sbcglobal.net o: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org ubject: Re: [Phono-L] VTLA wheel casters essage-ID: 1309810513.71949.yahoomailclas...@web81701.mail.mud.yahoo.com ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Were they only used on the VTLA?? I just parted out a VV-XIV and saved those asters and related parts. In fact, they are still attached to the legs. et me know if that would be of any use to you. ave --- On Mon, 7/4/11, jkship jks...@bresnan.net wrote: From: jkship jks...@bresnan.net ubject: [Phono-L] VTLA wheel casters o: phono-l@oldcrank.org ate: Monday, July 4, 2011, 3:56 PM I am trying to locate a set of four
Re: [Phono-L] Singing bird pistols of 1820
Wow, that's astounding! John --- On Mon, 7/18/11, Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com wrote: From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Singing bird pistols of 1820 To: Phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Monday, July 18, 2011, 6:10 PM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_QL8C4l6W4 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:33:53 -0700 From: smst...@gmail.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Singing bird pistols of 1820 Just take it over to Youtube. It there.. WWW. youtube .com /watch?v=yf5_a_AXivM Join the link back together. oldcranky On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 3:27 PM, harvey kravitz harveykrav...@yahoo.comwrote: Hi Gang I tried to forward the message, but the link won't show up on the email. If you go to Yahoo video and type in Singing bird pistols of 1820, It should come up. It's very interesting to see this. The craftsmanship in amazing. This is the ultimate Automaton or singing bird. Harvey Kravitz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] auction fees
You should contact one of the Antique Phonograph Societies in your area (preferably a maps chapter) and have a delegation of the members come out there. Our members are very knowledgable and will give a fair price for your items, and won't rip you off. They are collectors, not someone trying to low ball everything and then resell it for a huge profit. That way you avoid all the pretenders, and the rip off artists. Cash and carry, no advertising, no middle man, no commissions, just cash money, to take your precious stuff away where it will have a good home. - Forwarded Message - From: ge...@comcast.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Cc: ge...@comcast.net Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 1:48:31 PM Subject: [Phono-L] auction fees Thanks to all who gave info about auction fees. I asked for their take to be 20% and to put a reserve on the Hexaphone and Zonophone (worth thousands each). THe auctioneer, WOODBURY Auctions then declined...tells ya somethin! I realized later, that a ringer could come in and buy my multi-thousand machines for a few hundred and make off like a bandit if I didn't have a reserve! At first they asked for 35% + shipping costs, then went down to 25% with no charge for shipping. BUT, the mention of reserve suddenly turned them off. Just something to think about...RESERVES are very very important. They may be a put-off to some, but to the seller are critical and I'm very grateful for the replies I got here. Thanks folks, many thanks!!! Ger If anyone hears of an auction or buyer willing to take on my collection fairly, please let me know...still would like to clear it out (northwest CT)...for real this time. ;) Besides the Hex and Zono, there are 4 Edisons, a Vic, a Herbert (reproducer area incorrectly fixed), over a dozen horns including one extra large round brass, a bunch of parts, and over 500 records, about half of which look like decent blue Amberols (a couple of other odd ones too some good wax). Everything is catalogued, including a few dozen fat flat records and a Diamond Disc head with diamond. I've had offers for the 2 main machines, but don't want to be cherry-picked. :) PS: For any one who finds some of the discussion here unrelated to their immediate situation, I suggest that rather than drop out totally, get put on daily digest...it works well for me, and I actually enjoy it. Thanks for that too. - Original Message - From: phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, July 4, 2011 11:08:24 PM Subject: Phono-L Digest, Vol 8, Issue 197 Send Phono-L mailing list submissions to phono-l@oldcrank.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org You can reach the person managing the list at phono-l-ow...@oldcrank.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Phono-L digest... If you reply, please change your subject line and don't include this entire digest in your message. Today's Topics: 1. VTLA wheel casters (jkship) 2. Re: VTLA wheel casters (David Dazer) 3. Re: auction fees (Richard Mazur) 4. Re: Dearborn trip--Edison's last breath (b...@taney.com) 5. Recreating Edison's Inventions... very educational... was Dearborn... (clockworkh...@aol.com) 6. My Dearborn trip (Ken and Brenda Brekke) 7. Edison (Michael Tucker) 8. Re: Recreating Edison's Inventions... very educational... was Dearborn... (Steven Medved) 9. Re: VTLA wheel casters (jkship) 10. Re: VTLA wheel casters (Ron L'Herault) 11. Re: Edison feedscrew on mandrel shaft... Triumph, M, Home... (clockworkh...@aol.com) 12. Re: VTLA wheel casters (jkship) 13. Re: Edison feedscrew on mandrel shaft... Triumph, M, Home... (john robles) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 13:56:24 -0600 From: jkship jks...@bresnan.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] VTLA wheel casters Message-ID: 16F2FFE8882542FE91FEE85D1552AC9A@SHIPLEYSDELL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I am trying to locate a set of four ball bearing type wheel casters for an early VTLA. The part is a brass cup with a pressed on shoulder. The small end of the cup slides up into the leg of the phonograph. In the bottom of one of the cups is the remnant of a ball bearing ring. The open end of the cup has a distinct crimp that I assume held the wheel. Obviously, the three parts I have are missing the wheel assembly. I checked with George and Ron to no avail... Thanks -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 13:15:13 -0700 (PDT) From: David Dazer dda...@sbcglobal.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] VTLA wheel casters Message-ID:
[Phono-L] Rare, unusual and tough to come by Cylinder Phonograph records for sale
I mailed this list a while back about starting to sell off and auction of my cylinder record collection. I currently have about 100 or so late 4xxx series and 5xxx series Blue Amberols listed on ebay. Please go take a look at them. My userid is tinfreakI am known to many of you on this list since a number of years and have moved geographically over time from the US to Europe and am now in Asia. I have been on ebay for 14 years with a 100 pct track record. The records will be shipped from my home in Phuket, Thailand. Shipping is a bit expensive (although.. comparable prices to shipping international FROM the USA to elsewhere), the first record is $11.25, and each additional record $2. My experience tells me that for batches over 50, the average shipping price per record can come down to $1.50-$1.75 IN ADDITION, I am offering the following unusual, rare, or hard to come by batch of records to the list on a first come, first serve basis. None of these are played (too valuable), and visually graded only 1) International Phonographic Language School (IPLS) - Lambert Language Records - $65 USD each Spanish No. 5 Spanish No. 12 (one small rim crack) Italian No. 5 Italian No. 9 German No. 11 German No. 14 All good condition and playable, but may not fit mandrel. That is always the problem with Lamberts, and I chose NOT to retro-fit. These records are for safekeeping, not playing, but ofcourse that is your choice. 2) US Black Lambert, with white paint inside (early, the later ones had black paint core) - $125 USD 837 Elephant Mosquito (Band) Good condition, no major visible defects 3) Pink US Lambert (with white original celluloid color inside) - $250 821 Hunting Scene (Band) Good condition, no major visible defects - 4) early Edison Bell Indestructibles, black outside and inside, look exactly like US Black Lamberts (most of the ones I saw before are brown, seems EB wanted to distinguish away from Black Lamberts quickly) - $90 USD each 319 Music Hall Melodies No. 1 (Orchestra) 6058 Auction Sale - Russell Hunting Good condition, no major visible defects 5) British Lambert (black, raised lettering, cardboard core, issued as Ebony Lamberts) - $85 USD each 517 Queer Question - Curtis 48 If I Were Loved - Boh Band 5041 Rocked in the Cradle - Tally Ho Trio 5234 My English Sailor Man - Curtis 217 Semiramide - London Military Band 160 Light and Free - London Military Band 47 Moss Rose - Boh Band 8036 Mein Traum Walzer 290 Cavelleria Rusticana - INT 5227 Not Another Daddy - Curtis 229 23rd Regiment Mafch - Band Number illegible (repair to title side - The Bull and Bush Bluff Good condition, no major visible defects - 6) International Indestructible Record Company - IIRC (successor to IPIRC, also a short lived Liverpool based company 1903-1906, using Lambert licensed celluloid and plaster core, which invented by Ademar Petit, ex-Edison employee, and sometimes rarely cardboard core) - $75 USD each 733 Wouldnt Leave my Little Wooden Hut - Song 720 Red Lights Dancer - Song 94 Forward March - Band 1517 Larboard Watch - Duet Good condition, no major visible defects - 7) International Phonograph and Indestructible Record Co. IPIRC (VERY RARE, this company was the predecessor of IIRC, only in existence for one year 1902-1903!) - $85 each 5010 Dancing on the House Tops 4251 Marriage Bells 40 Invincible Eagle March 18 Stephanie Gavotte - Band 4201 In the arms of Jesus - Church Chimes (cardboard core, rare) Good condition, no major visible defects - 8) Electrophone Company Record (short lived company producing plastic records in the late 70s, early 80s with remakes of rare and special records - by Peter Dilg) - $60 USD each, except for Edison Advertising Record at $120 ECR 3012 - Hungry Women (red record, no core) ECR 5001 - Crazy Rhythm (red record, no core) ECR 7006 - Cecilia with a Capital C (red record), no core) ECR 3001 - Swanee (black, cardboard core) ECR 7008 - The Yankee Doodle Boy (black, cardboard core) ECR 7012 - Wait till the Sun Shines, Nellie (black, cardboard core) ECR 7001 - The Edison Advertising Record - Len Spencer (black, cardboard core) Email me directly at zanaspatr...@hotmail.com This is also my Paypal ID. Payment by PAYPAL only PLEASE! I can not accept US checks/Money Orders/Cashier's Checks to my banks here. Too expensive to cash them. For any Europeans on this list, we can discuss bank transfer to a European account. Thanks Patriek Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 18:26:31 -0700 From: john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Singing bird pistols of 1820 Wow, that's astounding! John --- On Mon, 7/18/11, Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com wrote: From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Singing bird pistols of 1820 To: Phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Monday, July 18, 2011, 6:10 PM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_QL8C4l6W4 Date: Mon, 18 Jul
[Phono-L] UPDATE: Rare, unusual and tough to come by Cylinder Phonograph records for sale
Hi all Sorry, I inadvertently replied to another string, so this is cleaned up version of my mail. I mailed this list a while back about starting to sell off and auction of my cylinder record collection. I currently have about 100 or so late 4xxx series and 5xxx series Blue Amberols listed on ebay. Please go take a look at them. My userid is tinfreak I am known to many of you on this list since a number of years and have moved geographically over time from the US to Europe and am now in Asia. I have been on ebay for 14 years with a 100 pct track record. The records will be shipped from my home in Phuket, Thailand. Shipping is a bit expensive (although.. comparable prices to shipping international FROM the USA to elsewhere), the first record is $11.25, and each additional record $2. My experience tells me that for batches over 50, the average shipping price per record can come down to $1.50-$1.75 IN ADDITION, I am offering the following unusual, rare, or hard to come by batch of records to the list on a first come, first serve basis. None of these are played (too valuable), and visually graded only 1) International Phonographic Language School (IPLS) - Lambert Language Records - $65 USD each Spanish No. 5 Spanish No. 12 (one small rim crack) Italian No. 5 Italian No. 9 German No. 11 German No. 14 All good condition and playable, but may not fit mandrel. That is always the problem with Lamberts, and I chose NOT to retro-fit. These records are for safekeeping, not playing, but ofcourse that is your choice. 2) US Black Lambert, with white paint inside (early, the later ones had black paint core) - $125 USD 837 Elephant Mosquito (Band) Good condition, no major visible defects 3) Pink US Lambert (with white original celluloid color inside) - $250 821 Hunting Scene (Band) Good condition, no major visible defects - 4) early Edison Bell Indestructibles, black outside and inside, look exactly like US Black Lamberts (most of the ones I saw before are brown, seems EB wanted to distinguish away from Black Lamberts quickly) - $90 USD each 319 Music Hall Melodies No. 1 (Orchestra) 6058 Auction Sale - Russell Hunting Good condition, no major visible defects 5) British Lambert (black, raised lettering, cardboard core, issued as Ebony Lamberts) - $85 USD each 517 Queer Question - Curtis 48 If I Were Loved - Boh Band 5041 Rocked in the Cradle - Tally Ho Trio 5234 My English Sailor Man - Curtis 217 Semiramide - London Military Band 160 Light and Free - London Military Band 47 Moss Rose - Boh Band 8036 Mein Traum Walzer 290 Cavelleria Rusticana - INT 5227 Not Another Daddy - Curtis 229 23rd Regiment Mafch - Band Number illegible (repair to title side - The Bull and Bush Bluff Good condition, no major visible defects - 6) International Indestructible Record Company - IIRC (successor to IPIRC, also a short lived Liverpool based company 1903-1906, using Lambert licensed celluloid and plaster core, which invented by Ademar Petit, ex-Edison employee, and sometimes rarely cardboard core) - $75 USD each 733 Wouldnt Leave my Little Wooden Hut - Song 720 Red Lights Dancer - Song 94 Forward March - Band 1517 Larboard Watch - Duet Good condition, no major visible defects - 7) International Phonograph and Indestructible Record Co. IPIRC (VERY RARE, this company was the predecessor of IIRC, only in existence for one year 1902-1903!) - $85 each 5010 Dancing on the House Tops 4251 Marriage Bells 40 Invincible Eagle March 18 Stephanie Gavotte - Band 4201 In the arms of Jesus - Church Chimes (cardboard core, rare) Good condition, no major visible defects - 8) Electrophone Company Record (short lived company producing plastic records in the late 70s, early 80s with remakes of rare and special records - by Peter Dilg) - $60 USD each, except for Edison Advertising Record at $120 ECR 3012 - Hungry Women (red record, no core) ECR 5001 - Crazy Rhythm (red record, no core) ECR 7006 - Cecilia with a Capital C (red record), no core) ECR 3001 - Swanee (black, cardboard core) ECR 7008 - The Yankee Doodle Boy (black, cardboard core) ECR 7012 - Wait till the Sun Shines, Nellie (black, cardboard core) ECR 7001 - The Edison Advertising Record - Len Spencer (black, cardboard core) Email me directly at zanaspatr...@hotmail.com This is also my Paypal ID. Payment by PAYPAL only PLEASE! I can not accept US checks/Money Orders/Cashier's Checks to my banks here. Too expensive to cash them. For any Europeans on this list, we can discuss bank transfer to a European account. Thanks Patriek ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
