Re: [Phono-L] Very Sad News

2012-09-19 Thread Robin Joan Rolfs
We send our message of sympathy to Karen and the family.  Bob and Karen 
shared their love of the hobby with everyone.  Bob set a wonderful example 
for all collectors, enjoyed collecting, wrote articles and answered 
questions for the beginning and advanced collector.


Bob will be missed by all he touched by his caring and sharing.

With deep sympathy,

Robin  Joan Rolfs



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[Phono-L] The Compleat Talking Machine - For Sale - $50

2012-09-19 Thread DeeDee Blais
Anyone need a hardbound copy of Reiss' The Compleat Talking Machine?  It's a 
first edition with a dust cover.  The price is $50 plus postage.  Thanks, Jerry 
Blais
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[Phono-L] A tale of woe...

2012-09-19 Thread David Barnett

It was like a scene from an old movie.

I was installing a combo attachment on my Edison Standard and had  
every in just about the right position. I slightly rotated the  
mandrel to make sure it still moved smoothly, and the tiny headless  
set screw in the double-gear piece from the combo kit fell out. I  
guess I had backed it out a bit too much while working. There I was  
in one of those sudden slow motion scenes watching in horror as the  
screw slowly fell and bounced on the case, the workbench, the chair,  
my foot and the floor while I flailed around trying to stop it's  
merciless descent into the one crack in the cement floor under the  
workbench while simultaneously contributing the classic drawn-out  
dialog line:  Oooohhh No


So, can anyone help locate that screw? I'd go for that double-gear  
piece with the screw in it, if need be. I'd get 2 to have a backup  
(yes, I know I'm sometimes klutsy).


Thanks for hearing my tale of woe.

David

David Barnett   da...@fairlibertyscall.com
C: 516-398-8668  www.FairLibertysCall.com
3 Ike Place
Woodmere, NY 11598

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Re: [Phono-L] A tale of woe...

2012-09-19 Thread Jim Nichol
You need a powerful magnet to get it out of the crack.

Jim Nichol

On Sep 19, 2012, at 11:03 AM, David Barnett da...@fairlibertyscall.com wrote:

 It was like a scene from an old movie.
 
 I was installing a combo attachment on my Edison Standard and had every in 
 just about the right position. I slightly rotated the mandrel to make sure it 
 still moved smoothly, and the tiny headless set screw in the double-gear 
 piece from the combo kit fell out. I guess I had backed it out a bit too much 
 while working. There I was in one of those sudden slow motion scenes watching 
 in horror as the screw slowly fell and bounced on the case, the workbench, 
 the chair, my foot and the floor while I flailed around trying to stop it's 
 merciless descent into the one crack in the cement floor under the workbench 
 while simultaneously contributing the classic drawn-out dialog line:  
 Oooohhh No
 
 So, can anyone help locate that screw? I'd go for that double-gear piece with 
 the screw in it, if need be. I'd get 2 to have a backup (yes, I know I'm 
 sometimes klutsy).
 
 Thanks for hearing my tale of woe.
 
 David
 
 David Barnett   da...@fairlibertyscall.com
 C: 516-398-8668  www.FairLibertysCall.com
 3 Ike Place
 Woodmere, NY 11598
 
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Re: [Phono-L] A tale of woe...

2012-09-19 Thread John Robles
How deep is the crack? I would try running a magnet over it. You can get a 
telescoping pointer thingy with a magnet on the end of it at a good hardware 
store.
 It is made for picking up small metal parts.
John Robles



On Sep 19, 2012, at 8:03 AM, David Barnett da...@fairlibertyscall.com wrote:

 It was like a scene from an old movie.
 
 I was installing a combo attachment on my Edison Standard and had every in 
 just about the right position. I slightly rotated the mandrel to make sure it 
 still moved smoothly, and the tiny headless set screw in the double-gear 
 piece from the combo kit fell out. I guess I had backed it out a bit too much 
 while working. There I was in one of those sudden slow motion scenes watching 
 in horror as the screw slowly fell and bounced on the case, the workbench, 
 the chair, my foot and the floor while I flailed around trying to stop it's 
 merciless descent into the one crack in the cement floor under the workbench 
 while simultaneously contributing the classic drawn-out dialog line:  
 Oooohhh No
 
 So, can anyone help locate that screw? I'd go for that double-gear piece with 
 the screw in it, if need be. I'd get 2 to have a backup (yes, I know I'm 
 sometimes klutsy).
 
 Thanks for hearing my tale of woe.
 
 David
 
 David Barnett   da...@fairlibertyscall.com
 C: 516-398-8668  www.FairLibertysCall.com
 3 Ike Place
 Woodmere, NY 11598
 
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Re: [Phono-L] A tale of woe...

2012-09-19 Thread harvey kravitz
David, 
What you need is a 5-40 set screw 1/4 long. don't forget to get the right size 
Allen wrench for it.
Harvey Kravitz





 From: David Barnett da...@fairlibertyscall.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org 
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 8:03 AM
Subject: [Phono-L] A tale of woe...
 
It was like a scene from an old movie.

I was installing a combo attachment on my Edison Standard and had every in just 
about the right position. I slightly rotated the mandrel to make sure it still 
moved smoothly, and the tiny headless set screw in the double-gear piece from 
the combo kit fell out. I guess I had backed it out a bit too much while 
working. There I was in one of those sudden slow motion scenes watching in 
horror as the screw slowly fell and bounced on the case, the workbench, the 
chair, my foot and the floor while I flailed around trying to stop it's 
merciless descent into the one crack in the cement floor under the workbench 
while simultaneously contributing the classic drawn-out dialog line:  Oooohhh 
No

So, can anyone help locate that screw? I'd go for that double-gear piece with 
the screw in it, if need be. I'd get 2 to have a backup (yes, I know I'm 
sometimes klutsy).

Thanks for hearing my tale of woe.

David

David Barnett                  da...@fairlibertyscall.com
C: 516-398-8668                  www.FairLibertysCall.com
3 Ike Place
Woodmere, NY 11598

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Re: [Phono-L] A tale of woe...

2012-09-19 Thread Andrew Baron
Jim's advice is excellent, and a good reminder.  If the crack in the slab is 
too narrow to get the magnet close enough, put the magnet on a sliver of steel 
(not stainless), and use the sliver as a magnetic extension.  A rare earth 
magnet will improve your chances.

Andrew Baron

On Sep 19, 2012, at 9:14 AM, Jim Nichol wrote:

 You need a powerful magnet to get it out of the crack.
 
 Jim Nichol
 
 On Sep 19, 2012, at 11:03 AM, David Barnett da...@fairlibertyscall.com 
 wrote:
 
 It was like a scene from an old movie.
 
 I was installing a combo attachment on my Edison Standard and had every in 
 just about the right position. I slightly rotated the mandrel to make sure 
 it still moved smoothly, and the tiny headless set screw in the double-gear 
 piece from the combo kit fell out. I guess I had backed it out a bit too 
 much while working. There I was in one of those sudden slow motion scenes 
 watching in horror as the screw slowly fell and bounced on the case, the 
 workbench, the chair, my foot and the floor while I flailed around trying to 
 stop it's merciless descent into the one crack in the cement floor under the 
 workbench while simultaneously contributing the classic drawn-out dialog 
 line:  Oooohhh No
 
 So, can anyone help locate that screw? I'd go for that double-gear piece 
 with the screw in it, if need be. I'd get 2 to have a backup (yes, I know 
 I'm sometimes klutsy).
 
 Thanks for hearing my tale of woe.
 
 David
 
 David Barnett   da...@fairlibertyscall.com
 C: 516-398-8668  www.FairLibertysCall.com
 3 Ike Place
 Woodmere, NY 11598
 
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Re: [Phono-L] A tale of woe...

2012-09-19 Thread Melissa Ricci
We order lost screws from Ron Sitko. I am at work now but I will send you his 
phone number this evening. He always has everything and ships very fast!

--- On Wed, 9/19/12, Jim Nichol jnic...@fuse.net wrote:


From: Jim Nichol jnic...@fuse.net
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] A tale of woe...
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Date: Wednesday, September 19, 2012, 11:14 AM


You need a powerful magnet to get it out of the crack.

Jim Nichol

On Sep 19, 2012, at 11:03 AM, David Barnett da...@fairlibertyscall.com wrote:

 It was like a scene from an old movie.
 
 I was installing a combo attachment on my Edison Standard and had every in 
 just about the right position. I slightly rotated the mandrel to make sure it 
 still moved smoothly, and the tiny headless set screw in the double-gear 
 piece from the combo kit fell out. I guess I had backed it out a bit too much 
 while working. There I was in one of those sudden slow motion scenes watching 
 in horror as the screw slowly fell and bounced on the case, the workbench, 
 the chair, my foot and the floor while I flailed around trying to stop it's 
 merciless descent into the one crack in the cement floor under the workbench 
 while simultaneously contributing the classic drawn-out dialog line:  
 Oooohhh No
 
 So, can anyone help locate that screw? I'd go for that double-gear piece with 
 the screw in it, if need be. I'd get 2 to have a backup (yes, I know I'm 
 sometimes klutsy).
 
 Thanks for hearing my tale of woe.
 
 David
 
 David Barnett                   da...@fairlibertyscall.com
 C: 516-398-8668                  www.FairLibertysCall.com
 3 Ike Place
 Woodmere, NY 11598
 
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Re: [Phono-L] A tale of woe...

2012-09-19 Thread Vinyl Visions

This sounds like a story from my life... I had a machine completed, everything 
was in place, when I noticed the smallest amount of rust on a tiny 
irreplaceable part of a reproducer. So, in my OCD state of mind, I removed it 
and proceeded to use a rotary steel brush to clean it - then whoosh the brush 
grabbed it and flung it - not on the floor, not against the wall where I might 
have had a chance of finding it, but out of the door of my shop while I 
listened in horror to the sound of it hitting something that sounded like 
shrubbery - a big tangle of shrubbery. I tried a magnet, no luck in finding it 
- @#$%!!! Luckily, I ran across the part from another collector, which also 
had the tiniest bit of rust on it. Guess what - that's the way it's going to 
stay. 
 
 From: jnic...@fuse.net
 Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:14:48 -0400
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] A tale of woe...
 
 You need a powerful magnet to get it out of the crack.
 
 Jim Nichol
 
 On Sep 19, 2012, at 11:03 AM, David Barnett da...@fairlibertyscall.com 
 wrote:
 
  It was like a scene from an old movie.
  
  I was installing a combo attachment on my Edison Standard and had every in 
  just about the right position. I slightly rotated the mandrel to make sure 
  it still moved smoothly, and the tiny headless set screw in the double-gear 
  piece from the combo kit fell out. I guess I had backed it out a bit too 
  much while working. There I was in one of those sudden slow motion scenes 
  watching in horror as the screw slowly fell and bounced on the case, the 
  workbench, the chair, my foot and the floor while I flailed around trying 
  to stop it's merciless descent into the one crack in the cement floor under 
  the workbench while simultaneously contributing the classic drawn-out 
  dialog line:  Oooohhh No
  
  So, can anyone help locate that screw? I'd go for that double-gear piece 
  with the screw in it, if need be. I'd get 2 to have a backup (yes, I know 
  I'm sometimes klutsy).
  
  Thanks for hearing my tale of woe.
  
  David
  
  David Barnett   da...@fairlibertyscall.com
  C: 516-398-8668  www.FairLibertysCall.com
  3 Ike Place
  Woodmere, NY 11598
  
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Re: [Phono-L] A tale of woe...

2012-09-19 Thread Vinyl Visions

It is typically very hard to find slotted replacement setscrews for early 
equipment. A lot of times the threads are an old standard, which might not be 
commonly used today and modern slotted ones are difficult to find as well. So, 
if a magnet won't retrieve it and you are unable to find a replacement, you 
can, for a last resort - find a similar size slotted set screw and rethread the 
hole to a modern thread size. It might be easier to find a machine screw of the 
same size or a setscrew with a socket head, which will work also. However, you 
then have to cut the head off and make a screwdriver slot with a Dremel.
 
 From: john9...@pacbell.net
 Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 08:15:17 -0700
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] A tale of woe...
 
 How deep is the crack? I would try running a magnet over it. You can get a 
 telescoping pointer thingy with a magnet on the end of it at a good hardware 
 store.
  It is made for picking up small metal parts.
 John Robles
 
 
 
 On Sep 19, 2012, at 8:03 AM, David Barnett da...@fairlibertyscall.com wrote:
 
  It was like a scene from an old movie.
  
  I was installing a combo attachment on my Edison Standard and had every in 
  just about the right position. I slightly rotated the mandrel to make sure 
  it still moved smoothly, and the tiny headless set screw in the double-gear 
  piece from the combo kit fell out. I guess I had backed it out a bit too 
  much while working. There I was in one of those sudden slow motion scenes 
  watching in horror as the screw slowly fell and bounced on the case, the 
  workbench, the chair, my foot and the floor while I flailed around trying 
  to stop it's merciless descent into the one crack in the cement floor under 
  the workbench while simultaneously contributing the classic drawn-out 
  dialog line:  Oooohhh No
  
  So, can anyone help locate that screw? I'd go for that double-gear piece 
  with the screw in it, if need be. I'd get 2 to have a backup (yes, I know 
  I'm sometimes klutsy).
  
  Thanks for hearing my tale of woe.
  
  David
  
  David Barnett   da...@fairlibertyscall.com
  C: 516-398-8668  www.FairLibertysCall.com
  3 Ike Place
  Woodmere, NY 11598
  
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Re: [Phono-L] Very Sad News

2012-09-19 Thread Stan Stanford
Our thoughts and hearts go out to Karen in this sad time.Bob was a good
friend and great proponent of our hobby.   He opened his house many times to
view his wonderful collection and greeted us all warmly.We will miss
him.As we get more news, we will pass it on.   

Stan Stanford
Oregon Territory Antique Phonograph Society











-Original Message-
From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Ken and Brenda Brekke
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 6:35 PM
To: 'Antique Phonograph List'
Subject: [Phono-L] Very Sad News

I am saddened by the news.  Bob was a true treasure and will surely be
missed!!! 
Ken Brekke  


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[Phono-L] Sad news

2012-09-19 Thread DeeDee Blais
I am saddened and shocked by the news of Bob's passing.  He was always generous 
with his knowledge and sharing his collection.  It was an OTAPS highlight 
whenever he and Karen opened their home to the club.  My thoughts and prayers 
go to his family.  He will be missed.  Jerry Blais
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Re: [Phono-L] A tale of woe...

2012-09-19 Thread David Dazer
How about a shop vac to suck it up?  Empty all the sawdust, etc out first!
Dave

--- On Wed, 9/19/12, David Barnett da...@fairlibertyscall.com wrote:


From: David Barnett da...@fairlibertyscall.com
Subject: [Phono-L] A tale of woe...
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Date: Wednesday, September 19, 2012, 11:03 AM


It was like a scene from an old movie.

I was installing a combo attachment on my Edison Standard and had every in just 
about the right position. I slightly rotated the mandrel to make sure it still 
moved smoothly, and the tiny headless set screw in the double-gear piece from 
the combo kit fell out. I guess I had backed it out a bit too much while 
working. There I was in one of those sudden slow motion scenes watching in 
horror as the screw slowly fell and bounced on the case, the workbench, the 
chair, my foot and the floor while I flailed around trying to stop it's 
merciless descent into the one crack in the cement floor under the workbench 
while simultaneously contributing the classic drawn-out dialog line:  Oooohhh 
No

So, can anyone help locate that screw? I'd go for that double-gear piece with 
the screw in it, if need be. I'd get 2 to have a backup (yes, I know I'm 
sometimes klutsy).

Thanks for hearing my tale of woe.

David

David Barnett                   da...@fairlibertyscall.com
C: 516-398-8668                  www.FairLibertysCall.com
3 Ike Place
Woodmere, NY 11598

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Re: [Phono-L] A tale of woe...

2012-09-19 Thread Earl Reynolds

Hi how about using a magnet wave it around all over the floor it will pick up 
only the metal objects . Good luck Earl 



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