[Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 2, Issue 240
Hi Scott, I am very impressed, the only thing I would add is that Edison blue amberol cylinders come in shades that range from light blue to navy blue and some are dark purple. Edison also made lighter purple cylinders as part of the Royal purple records, the numbers are 29000 series. Regular blue amberols are 1500 to 5719. Steve > >Here's how you can tell the cylinders apart. > >Brown wax or celluloid = two min (Brown celluloid are Lamberts) > >Pink celluloid = two min Lamberts > >Black celluloid = two or four min - 2 min black celluloid are Lamberts >or some Inestructibles (2M on rim) The 4 min Indestructibles will say >4M on rim. There are no 4 min Lamberts > >Black wax = All 4 min black wax have flat rims and are imprinted with >title information on rim and are mostly Edison. They will say 4M on rim >(There are two-min Edison wax with semi-flat edges, which if you look >closely, these will be different from the 4 min flat rims and have no >title information) > >Blue celluloid - 99% of these are Edison 4min Blue Amberols. There are >some 2M but these are rare (Language or other rare titles) There are >some 4M Indesturctibles, but these are almost grey in appearance. There >are some 2M but these are rare. > >I hope this helps. > >If anyone has additional info or can correct me, please do. > >Regards, > >Scott. > >--- phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org wrote: > > > Send Phono-L mailing list submissions to > > phono-l@oldcrank.org > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > phono-l-ow...@oldcrank.org > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Phono-L digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > >1. identifying 2min or 4 min records (John Keister) > >2. Re: identifying 2min or 4 min records (Ron L'Herault) > >3. Re: identifying 2min or 4 min records (Robert Wright) > >4. Re: identifying 2min or 4 min records (Steven Medved) > >5. Re: identifying 2min or 4 min records (allena...@aol.com) > >6. Re: identifying 2min or 4 min records (Steven Medved) > >7. Re: identifying 2min or 4 min records (U.S. Everlasting) > > (bruce78rpm) > >8. Re: identifying 2min or 4 min records (U.S. Everlasting) (Dan > > Kj-) > >9. Re: identifying 2min or 4 min records (U.S. Everlasting) > > (allena...@aol.com) > > 10. Re: identifying 2min or 4 min records (George) > > 11. Re: identifying 2min or 4 min records (U.S. Everlasting) (Dan > > Kj-) > > 12. Re: identifying 2min or 4 min records (U.S. Everlasting) > > (Robert Wright) > > 13. Re: identifying 2min or 4 min records (U.S. Everlasting) > > (Steven Medved) > > 14. Re: identifying 2min or 4 min records (Jim Nichol) > > 15. Re: identifying 2min or 4 min records (U.S. Everlasting) > > (allena...@aol.com) > > > > > > >-- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 15:01:38 -0500 > > From: "John Keister" > > Subject: [Phono-L] identifying 2min or 4 min records > > To: > > Message-ID: <001101c5f77b$357b5380$bd01a...@johnkeister> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Hey, everybody, > > there are lots of cylinder records available on e-bay but the sellers > > don't know if the records are 2 minute or 4 minute. my question is, > > how can you tell the difference? gold moulded, blue amberol, etc. > > John > > > > > > -- > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 15:48:25 -0500 > > From: "Ron L'Herault" > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] identifying 2min or 4 min records > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > If you can compare two known cylinders a 2 and a 4 minute, you will > > see that > > the 4 minute recordings have a much finer groove. Once you have got > > that in > > you mind, you can tell from looking. > > > > Ron L > > > > -Original Message- > > From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org > > [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org]on Behalf Of John Keister > > Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 3:02 PM > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > Subject: [Phono-L] identifying 2min or 4 min records > > > > > > Hey, everybody, > > there are lots of cylinder records available on e-bay but the sellers > > don't > > know if the records are 2 minute or 4 minute. my question is, how > > can you > > tell the difference? gold moulded, blue amberol, etc. > > John > > ___ > > Phono-L mailing list > > Phono-L@oldcrank.org > > > > Phono-L Archive > > http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 15:01:37 -0
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The only ones I have with 2M on them are US Everlasting and my Edison Spanish Blue Amberol. Are there any others? Steve >** >which are these? I know of no Albany Indestructibles with 2M on their rims. >Do you mean US Everlasting? > >allen >
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Here's how you can tell the cylinders apart. Brown wax or celluloid = two min (Brown celluloid are Lamberts) Pink celluloid = two min Lamberts Black celluloid = two or four min - 2 min black celluloid are Lamberts or some Inestructibles (2M on rim) The 4 min Indestructibles will say 4M on rim. There are no 4 min Lamberts Black wax = All 4 min black wax have flat rims and are imprinted with title information on rim and are mostly Edison. They will say 4M on rim (There are two-min Edison wax with semi-flat edges, which if you look closely, these will be different from the 4 min flat rims and have no title information) Blue celluloid - 99% of these are Edison 4min Blue Amberols. There are some 2M but these are rare (Language or other rare titles) There are some 4M Indesturctibles, but these are almost grey in appearance. There are some 2M but these are rare. I hope this helps. If anyone has additional info or can correct me, please do. Regards, Scott. --- phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org wrote: > Send Phono-L mailing list submissions to > phono-l@oldcrank.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > phono-l-ow...@oldcrank.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Phono-L digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. identifying 2min or 4 min records (John Keister) >2. Re: identifying 2min or 4 min records (Ron L'Herault) >3. Re: identifying 2min or 4 min records (Robert Wright) >4. Re: identifying 2min or 4 min records (Steven Medved) >5. Re: identifying 2min or 4 min records (allena...@aol.com) >6. Re: identifying 2min or 4 min records (Steven Medved) >7. Re: identifying 2min or 4 min records (U.S. Everlasting) > (bruce78rpm) >8. Re: identifying 2min or 4 min records (U.S. Everlasting) (Dan > Kj-) >9. Re: identifying 2min or 4 min records (U.S. Everlasting) > (allena...@aol.com) > 10. Re: identifying 2min or 4 min records (George) > 11. Re: identifying 2min or 4 min records (U.S. Everlasting) (Dan > Kj-) > 12. Re: identifying 2min or 4 min records (U.S. Everlasting) > (Robert Wright) > 13. Re: identifying 2min or 4 min records (U.S. Everlasting) > (Steven Medved) > 14. Re: identifying 2min or 4 min records (Jim Nichol) > 15. Re: identifying 2min or 4 min records (U.S. Everlasting) > (allena...@aol.com) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 15:01:38 -0500 > From: "John Keister" > Subject: [Phono-L] identifying 2min or 4 min records > To: > Message-ID: <001101c5f77b$357b5380$bd01a...@johnkeister> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hey, everybody, > there are lots of cylinder records available on e-bay but the sellers > don't know if the records are 2 minute or 4 minute. my question is, > how can you tell the difference? gold moulded, blue amberol, etc. > John > > > -- > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 15:48:25 -0500 > From: "Ron L'Herault" > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] identifying 2min or 4 min records > To: "Antique Phonograph List" > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > If you can compare two known cylinders a 2 and a 4 minute, you will > see that > the 4 minute recordings have a much finer groove. Once you have got > that in > you mind, you can tell from looking. > > Ron L > > -Original Message- > From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org > [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org]on Behalf Of John Keister > Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 3:02 PM > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: [Phono-L] identifying 2min or 4 min records > > > Hey, everybody, > there are lots of cylinder records available on e-bay but the sellers > don't > know if the records are 2 minute or 4 minute. my question is, how > can you > tell the difference? gold moulded, blue amberol, etc. > John > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > Phono-L@oldcrank.org > > Phono-L Archive > http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ > > > > -- > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 15:01:37 -0600 > From: "Robert Wright" > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] identifying 2min or 4 min records > To: "Antique Phonograph List" > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Just throwing this out there as a newbie to cylinder purchases > myself... > John, did you mean something more along the lines of issue numbers > and > series? I know I surely can't tell cylinder groove pitch from a > low-quality > jpeg taken from 3 or 4 ft away, and (estate) sellers who sell groups > of > cylinders per lot often take a picture from
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In a message dated 12/3/2005 3:32:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, smalaw...@yahoo.com writes: > > <> ** which are these? I know of no Albany Indestructibles with 2M on their rims. Do you mean US Everlasting? allen
