Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 9, Issue 147
hi all i think all we are trying to say is AMERICAN RESTORATION is a business and tv show and they are making lots of money on people who do know know who to turn to to repair their items and the cost may not overcome the benefit its like pawn brokers and their experts its all entertainment zono -Original Message- From: GAYLE VOISINE, BECKY VOISINE bjvois...@msn.com To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Fri, Jun 15, 2012 11:54 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 9, Issue 147 In response to a lot of you dought sayers on the restoration of the diamond disc phono. I think , for one it is beter to restore than to junk! I like that they replaced the veneer, rather than try to patch the existing ,and look like Shit , like a lot of restorations look like. I fix and restore a lot of radios , phonographs and some juke boxes for myself and freinds, and I don't do shitty work. I won't do anything that I wouldn't want for myself, as far as finished quality. I get some terrible stuff from supposedly restorers who are on registered websites , that I would be ashamed to ask money for.You people need to get a life and not criticise people who are trying to keep something going on for others to enjoy instead of destroy , or tear apart and sell in pieces rather than sell as good working machine. I realize that there are alot of machines that are good for nothing but parts. I believe that we should try to keep thees machines going for eterninty, but they should work and look good not beat up and cobbled up! Stop being like a bunch of old women at a quilting bee, bitching about old men! Thank you! Mr. Voisine. From: phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org Subject: Phono-L Digest, Vol 9, Issue 147 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:00:01 -0700 Send Phono-L mailing list submissions to phono-l@oldcrank.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org You can reach the person managing the list at phono-l-ow...@oldcrank.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Phono-L digest... If you reply, please change your subject line and don't include this entire digest in your message. Today's Topics: 1. American restoration. Edison Chippandale restoration (Tom Jordan) 2. Re: American restoration. Edison Chippandale restoration (Jim Nichol) 3. Re: American restoration. Edison Chippendale restoration (DanKj) 4. Re: American restoration. Edison Chippandale restoration (zonophone2...@aol.com) 5. Re: American restoration. Edison Chippendale restoration (bruce78...@comcast.net) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:25:31 -0500 From: Tom Jordan tom...@msn.com To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] American restoration. Edison Chippandale restoration Message-ID: blu0-smtp193affa44c217f94dee997bd9...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii So I was watching American Restoration tonight and a guy brought in an Edison C-19 Chippendale phonograph to be restored. Settled upon price for the restoration, $4,500.00. Hmmm... Tom -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:36:34 -0400 From: Jim Nichol jnic...@fuse.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] American restoration. Edison Chippandale restoration Message-ID: 2e4ce769-50c7-490a-9aa3-464e45be0...@fuse.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii How did it look after it was restored? Jim On Jun 13, 2012, at 11:25 PM, Tom Jordan wrote: So I was watching American Restoration tonight and a guy brought in an Edison C-19 Chippendale phonograph to be restored. Settled upon price for the restoration, $4,500.00. Hmmm... Tom -- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 01:34:54 -0400 From: DanKj ediso...@verizon.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] American restoration. Edison Chippendale restoration Message-ID: 4694907304644AB1B139DBF72F77F888@moms Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Ack. Last time I saw them touch a phono, they soaked the motor in industrial de-greaser, never opened the spring case, and did nothing with the reproducer. They didn't even understand that it was run by a spring - they said it was a flywheel. To top it all, the horn got a hideous paint job that only a clown could love! - Original Message - From: Tom Jordan tom...@msn.com To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:25 PM Subject: [Phono-L] American restoration. Edison Chippendale restoration
Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 9, Issue 147
The REAL PROBLEM with this restoration, is not that the machine was saved from being scrapped, but the ABSURD cost of the restoration. Sure, they did a good job, but it's a relatively common machine that you could find an excellent original example of for $1,000 or less. Go to any phonograph show with $4,500 in cash and you can come home with something that This is the equivalent of spending $50,000 to restore a car that is ultimately worth $10,000 in restored condition... but maybe sentimental value overrides the decision, if it was passed down in their family. To: phono-l@oldcrank.org From: zonophone2...@aol.com Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 07:31:59 -0400 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 9, Issue 147 hi all i think all we are trying to say is AMERICAN RESTORATION is a business and tv show and they are making lots of money on people who do know know who to turn to to repair their items and the cost may not overcome the benefit its like pawn brokers and their experts its all entertainment zono -Original Message- From: GAYLE VOISINE, BECKY VOISINE bjvois...@msn.com To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Fri, Jun 15, 2012 11:54 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 9, Issue 147 In response to a lot of you dought sayers on the restoration of the diamond disc phono. I think , for one it is beter to restore than to junk! I like that they replaced the veneer, rather than try to patch the existing ,and look like Shit , like a lot of restorations look like. I fix and restore a lot of radios , phonographs and some juke boxes for myself and freinds, and I don't do shitty work. I won't do anything that I wouldn't want for myself, as far as finished quality. I get some terrible stuff from supposedly restorers who are on registered websites , that I would be ashamed to ask money for.You people need to get a life and not criticise people who are trying to keep something going on for others to enjoy instead of destroy , or tear apart and sell in pieces rather than sell as good working machine. I realize that there are alot of machines that are good for nothing but parts. I believe that we should try to keep thees machines going for eterninty, but they should work and look good not beat up and cobbled up! Stop being like a bunch of old women at a quilting bee, bitching about old men! Thank you! Mr. Voisine. From: phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org Subject: Phono-L Digest, Vol 9, Issue 147 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:00:01 -0700 Send Phono-L mailing list submissions to phono-l@oldcrank.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org You can reach the person managing the list at phono-l-ow...@oldcrank.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Phono-L digest... If you reply, please change your subject line and don't include this entire digest in your message. Today's Topics: 1. American restoration. Edison Chippandale restoration (Tom Jordan) 2. Re: American restoration. Edison Chippandale restoration (Jim Nichol) 3. Re: American restoration. Edison Chippendale restoration (DanKj) 4. Re: American restoration. Edison Chippandale restoration (zonophone2...@aol.com) 5. Re: American restoration. Edison Chippendale restoration (bruce78...@comcast.net) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:25:31 -0500 From: Tom Jordan tom...@msn.com To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] American restoration. Edison Chippandale restoration Message-ID: blu0-smtp193affa44c217f94dee997bd9...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii So I was watching American Restoration tonight and a guy brought in an Edison C-19 Chippendale phonograph to be restored. Settled upon price for the restoration, $4,500.00. Hmmm... Tom -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:36:34 -0400 From: Jim Nichol jnic...@fuse.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] American restoration. Edison Chippandale restoration Message-ID: 2e4ce769-50c7-490a-9aa3-464e45be0...@fuse.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii How did it look after it was restored? Jim On Jun 13, 2012, at 11:25 PM, Tom Jordan wrote: So I was watching American Restoration tonight and a guy brought in an Edison C-19 Chippendale phonograph to be restored. Settled upon price for the restoration, $4,500.00. Hmmm... Tom -- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 01:34:54 -0400
Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 9, Issue 147
I finally had a chance to see the Edison Chippendale Diamond Disk on the American Restoration show today. I can't really complain about it. The wood looked awful, and the veneer on top was coming off. They brought in a wood guy who replaced the top veneer and refinished the rest. It looked pretty good on the 13-inch TV I was watching it on. It was a little surprising that they gold plated the turntable and reproducer, but it did look nice. And yes, there was a dark or black turntable felt used (although it was missing in one shot where they were showing off the gold plating). They used solvent and a brush to clean the underneath works. Don't know if any spring or reproducer work was done, but chances are it didn't need much work there. So over all, it made the machine look nice. And besides, it's a Chippendale, so not a rare machine. But Gayle, your message probably contains the only two 4-letter words in the history of this forum! Jim Nichol On Jun 15, 2012, at 11:38 PM, GAYLE VOISINE, BECKY VOISINE wrote: In response to a lot of you dought sayers on the restoration of the diamond disc phono. I think , for one it is beter to restore than to junk! I like that they replaced the veneer, rather than try to patch the existing ,and look like Shit , like a lot of restorations look like. I fix and restore a lot of radios , phonographs and some juke boxes for myself and freinds, and I don't do shitty work. I won't do anything that I wouldn't want for myself, as far as finished quality. I get some terrible stuff from supposedly restorers who are on registered websites , that I would be ashamed to ask money for.You people need to get a life and not criticise people who are trying to keep something going on for others to enjoy instead of destroy , or tear apart and sell in pieces rather than sell as good working machine. I realize that there are alot of machines that are good for nothing but parts. I believe that we should try to keep thees machines going for eterninty, but they should work and look good not beat up and cobbled up! Stop being like a bunch of old women at a quilting bee, bitching about old men! Thank you! Mr. Voisine. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
