Re: [Phono-L] Swiss made, Gold plated?
Thanks, Greg. You didn't take pics of it when it was out did you? Ron L From: Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of The Farmers via Phono-L Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 11:20 PM To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Cc: The Farmers Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Swiss made, Gold plated? The motor looks very similar to the one in my Sonora Italian Renaissance deluxe phonograph that I had George work on last winter, but it is a different variation having the parts arranged differently. For instance your governor mounts below the bottom framework whereas mine is mounted above the lower framework. I don't know if this makes your older, or newer, than mine, or if it is a different motor model. Mine has the counter mechanism on top of it and will play 14 records with one winding. Greg Farmer From: Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of George via Phono-L Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 5:12 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Cc: George Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Swiss made, Gold plated? The motor is out of one of the big Sonora Grand models. I've seen this style in a number of variation and they always mount to the bottom of the motor cavity. Some of the models had a record counter and that is what the top hardware is for. Motor appears incomplete and finding mating parts will be all but impossible, still a good parts motor as these are scare. Thank you, Great Lakes Antique Phonograph George Vollema 9496 N Woodbridge Ave Bitely MI 49309 231-745-7175 victr...@triton.net www.victroladoctor.com On 8/12/2016 2:17 PM, Ron L'Herault via Phono-L wrote: Don't remember if we can attach pics here but I tried anyhow. I'm trying to find out what this large Swiss made motor might have come out of. It is missing its spindle and associated gear(s) and probably a few other bits and pieces. I think the long flat thing up the top is part of a mechanism to tell how many records one can play on a winding. The two heavy metal brackets came with it as well. Thanks, Ron L ___ Phono-L mailing list http://go.sparkpostmail.com/f/a/tHDy6CsZvnsbZxrM3oVt-w~~/AABF2wA~/RgRZkEN6P0EIACvU_aHeIjpXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQhzdGFuZGFyZGANNTIuMzguMTkxLjIzMUIKAAD5D69X-iy3gFIYYXJjaGl2ZUBtYWlsLWFyY2hpdmUuY29tCVEEAEQSaHR0cDovL3Bob25vLWwub3JnRwJ7fQ~~ Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscr...@oldcrank.org <http://go.sparkpostmail.com/f/a/tHtkONik3wuQXGspmaFiLw~~/AABF2wA~/RgRZkEN6P0EIACvU_aHeIjpXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQhzdGFuZGFyZGANNTIuMzguMTkxLjIzMUIKAAD5D69X-iy3gFIYYXJjaGl2ZUBtYWlsLWFyY2hpdmUuY29tCVEEAERLaHR0cDovL2dvLnNwYXJrcG9zdG1haWwuY29tL3EvYmlwaHhuUUdRdFlmY2xKWi1jOEQ5Z35-L0FBQkYyd0F-L1JnUlpqMzA0UGtFRwJ7fQ~~ IAOvVKuD6VC1XA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQhzdGFuZGFyZGANNTIuMzguMTkxLjIyNEIKAAO 4Sa5XE2qZ2FIQZ2lmQHVzZmFtaWx5Lm5ldAlRBABHAnt9> <http://go.sparkpostmail.com/f/a/rK3TQ5H_5OCJBWkuM5sURg~~/AABF2wA~/RgRZkEN6P0EIACvU_aHeIjpXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQhzdGFuZGFyZGANNTIuMzguMTkxLjIzMUIKAAD5D69X-iy3gFIYYXJjaGl2ZUBtYWlsLWFyY2hpdmUuY29tCVEEAERLaHR0cDovL2dvLnNwYXJrcG9zdG1haWwuY29tL3EvX1gxV1p3aTNDRGNpMUp4X0JvdEZQUX5-L0FBQkYyd0F-L1JnUlpqOFlaUGtFRwJ7fQ~~ IAOvVKuEDfI1XA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQhzdGFuZGFyZGANNTIuMzguMTkxLjIyNEIKAAO Zkq5XE2o4rVIUbGhlcmF1bHRAdmVyaXpvbi5uZXQJUQQARwJ7fQ~~> ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscr...@oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Swiss made, Gold plated?
The motor looks very similar to the one in my Sonora Italian Renaissance deluxe phonograph that I had George work on last winter, but it is a different variation having the parts arranged differently. For instance your governor mounts below the bottom framework whereas mine is mounted above the lower framework. I don't know if this makes your older, or newer, than mine, or if it is a different motor model. Mine has the counter mechanism on top of it and will play 14 records with one winding. Greg Farmer From: Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of George via Phono-L Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 5:12 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Cc: George Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Swiss made, Gold plated? The motor is out of one of the big Sonora Grand models. I've seen this style in a number of variation and they always mount to the bottom of the motor cavity. Some of the models had a record counter and that is what the top hardware is for. Motor appears incomplete and finding mating parts will be all but impossible, still a good parts motor as these are scare. Thank you, Great Lakes Antique Phonograph George Vollema 9496 N Woodbridge Ave Bitely MI 49309 231-745-7175 victr...@triton.net www.victroladoctor.com <http://go.sparkpostmail.com/f/a/66bDbTleI_wBJgsy-WTbyA~~/AABF2wA~/RgRZj8YbP0EIAOvVKuEDfTNXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQhzdGFuZGFyZGANNTIuMzguMTkxLjIzN0IKAAOakq5XE2p_sVIYYXJjaGl2ZUBtYWlsLWFyY2hpdmUuY29tCVEEAESBaHR0cDovL2dvLnNwYXJrcG9zdG1haWwuY29tL2YvYS96M1pfQ2o3UUNfend5SzF0c3llbDlnfn4vQUFCRjJ3QX4vUmdSWmozMDRQMEVJQU92Vkt1RDZWQzFYQTNOd1kxZ0VBQUFBQUZrR2MyaGhjbVZrWVFoemRHRnVaR0Z5WkdBRwJ7fQ~~ NNTIuMzguMTkxLjIyNEIKAAO4Sa5XE2qZ2FIQZ2lmQHVzZmFtaWx5Lm5ldAlRBABEHWh0dHA6Ly93d3cudmljdHJvbGFkb2N0b3IuY29tRwJ7fQ~~> On 8/12/2016 2:17 PM, Ron L'Herault via Phono-L wrote: Don't remember if we can attach pics here but I tried anyhow. I'm trying to find out what this large Swiss made motor might have come out of. It is missing its spindle and associated gear(s) and probably a few other bits and pieces. I think the long flat thing up the top is part of a mechanism to tell how many records one can play on a winding. The two heavy metal brackets came with it as well. Thanks, Ron L ___ Phono-L mailing list http://go.sparkpostmail.com/f/a/GTUWgD7zMXDthh9oWFwhJQ~~/AABF2wA~/RgRZj8YbP0EIAOvVKuEDfTNXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQhzdGFuZGFyZGANNTIuMzguMTkxLjIzN0IKAAOakq5XE2p_sVIYYXJjaGl2ZUBtYWlsLWFyY2hpdmUuY29tCVEEAEQSaHR0cDovL3Bob25vLWwub3JnRwJ7fQ~~ <http://go.sparkpostmail.com/f/a/SO3udzCkPKEi9C4I8Hcthg~~/AABF2wA~/RgRZj8YbP0EIAOvVKuEDfTNXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQhzdGFuZGFyZGANNTIuMzguMTkxLjIzN0IKAAOakq5XE2p_sVIYYXJjaGl2ZUBtYWlsLWFyY2hpdmUuY29tCVEEAESBaHR0cDovL2dvLnNwYXJrcG9zdG1haWwuY29tL2YvYS95OWdTYUdiQWNvQTRGdjZiMl9GLUlBfn4vQUFCRjJ3QX4vUmdSWmozMDRQMEVJQU92Vkt1RDZWQzFYQTNOd1kxZ0VBQUFBQUZrR2MyaGhjbVZrWVFoemRHRnVaR0Z5WkdBRwJ7fQ~~ NNTIuMzguMTkxLjIyNEIKAAO4Sa5XE2qZ2FIQZ2lmQHVzZmFtaWx5Lm5ldAlRBABEEmh0dHA6Ly9waG9uby1sLm9yZ0cCe30~> Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscr...@oldcrank.org <http://go.sparkpostmail.com/f/a/d1-tWjCf8NxQpUQjhOTh3g~~/AABF2wA~/RgRZj8YbP0EIAOvVKuEDfTNXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQhzdGFuZGFyZGANNTIuMzguMTkxLjIzN0IKAAOakq5XE2p_sVIYYXJjaGl2ZUBtYWlsLWFyY2hpdmUuY29tCVEEAESBaHR0cDovL2dvLnNwYXJrcG9zdG1haWwuY29tL3EvYmlwaHhuUUdRdFlmY2xKWi1jOEQ5Z35-L0FBQkYyd0F-L1JnUlpqMzA0UGtFSUFPdlZLdUQ2VkMxWEEzTndZMWdFQUFBQUFGa0djMmhoY21Wa1lRaHpkR0Z1WkdGeVpHQU5ORwJ7fQ~~ TIuMzguMTkxLjIyNEIKAAO4Sa5XE2qZ2FIQZ2lmQHVzZmFtaWx5Lm5ldAlRBABHAnt9> ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscr...@oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Swiss made, Gold plated?
The motor is out of one of the big Sonora Grand models. I've seen this style in a number of variation and they always mount to the bottom of the motor cavity. Some of the models had a record counter and that is what the top hardware is for. Motor appears incomplete and finding mating parts will be all but impossible, still a good parts motor as these are scare. Thank you, Great Lakes Antique Phonograph George Vollema 9496 N Woodbridge Ave Bitely MI 49309 231-745-7175 victr...@triton.net www.victroladoctor.com On 8/12/2016 2:17 PM, Ron L'Herault via Phono-L wrote: > Don't remember if we can attach pics here but I tried anyhow. I'm trying to > find out what this large Swiss made motor might have come out of. It is > missing its spindle and associated gear(s) and probably a few other bits and > pieces. I think the long flat thing up the top is part of a mechanism to > tell how many records one can play on a winding. The two heavy metal > brackets came with it as well. > > Thanks, > > Ron L > > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://go.sparkpostmail.com/f/a/PoXOKI2FMMUcPVGkOW51yA~~/AABF2wA~/RgRZj304P0EIACvU_aHConNXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQhzdGFuZGFyZGANNTQuMjQ0LjU0LjE0NEIKAAC4Sa5X-iw1F1IYYXJjaGl2ZUBtYWlsLWFyY2hpdmUuY29tCVEEAEQSaHR0cDovL3Bob25vLWwub3JnRwJ7fQ~~ > Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscr...@oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscr...@oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Swiss made, Gold plated?
This motor was used in the higher range Sonora machines. Sonora used Swiss made parts.Harvey Kravitz From: DanKj via Phono-L <phono-l@oldcrank.org> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Cc: DanKj <ediso...@verizon.net> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Swiss made, Gold plated? I believe the long flat thing is the on-off mechanism, as on my VV2-65 - it's automatic when the tone-arm is moved to the outside. - Original Message - From: "Ron L'Herault via Phono-L" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Cc: "Ron L'Herault" <lhera...@verizon.net> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 2:17 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Swiss made, Gold plated? > Don't remember if we can attach pics here but I tried anyhow. I'm trying > to > find out what this large Swiss made motor might have come out of. It is > missing its spindle and associated gear(s) and probably a few other bits > and > pieces. I think the long flat thing up the top is part of a mechanism to > tell how many records one can play on a winding. The two heavy metal > brackets came with it as well. > > Thanks, > > Ron L > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://go.sparkpostmail.com/f/a/HSpA2YOBjCVhkpz9MtT5kA~~/AABF2wA~/RgRZj3yhP0EIAOvVKuD6OJhXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQhzdGFuZGFyZGANNTIuMzguMTkxLjIyNEIKAAMgSa5XE2qDL1IYYXJjaGl2ZUBtYWlsLWFyY2hpdmUuY29tCVEEAETuaHR0cDovL2dvLnNwYXJrcG9zdG1haWwuY29tL2YvYS90cHhvcElLenFpaGs4UVpMWDM2c01Rfn4vQUFCRjJ3QX4vUmdSWmoyckNQMEVJQUd2V25hSzltMjFYQTNOd1kxZ0VBQUFBQUZrR2MyaGhjbVZrWVFoemRHRnVaR0Z5WkdBTk5USXVNell1TVRJM0xqSXlORUlLQUFGQ042NVhqV2U5X0ZJWGFHRnlkbVY1YTNKaGRtbDBla0I1WVdodmJ5NWpiMjBKVVFRQUFBQUFSQkpvZEhSd09pOHZjR2h2Ym04dGJDNXZjbWRIQW50OUcCe30~ > Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscr...@oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://go.sparkpostmail.com/f/a/HSpA2YOBjCVhkpz9MtT5kA~~/AABF2wA~/RgRZj3yhP0EIAOvVKuD6OJhXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQhzdGFuZGFyZGANNTIuMzguMTkxLjIyNEIKAAMgSa5XE2qDL1IYYXJjaGl2ZUBtYWlsLWFyY2hpdmUuY29tCVEEAETuaHR0cDovL2dvLnNwYXJrcG9zdG1haWwuY29tL2YvYS90cHhvcElLenFpaGs4UVpMWDM2c01Rfn4vQUFCRjJ3QX4vUmdSWmoyckNQMEVJQUd2V25hSzltMjFYQTNOd1kxZ0VBQUFBQUZrR2MyaGhjbVZrWVFoemRHRnVaR0Z5WkdBTk5USXVNell1TVRJM0xqSXlORUlLQUFGQ042NVhqV2U5X0ZJWGFHRnlkbVY1YTNKaGRtbDBla0I1WVdodmJ5NWpiMjBKVVFRQUFBQUFSQkpvZEhSd09pOHZjR2h2Ym04dGJDNXZjbWRIQW50OUcCe30~ Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscr...@oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscr...@oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Swiss made, Gold plated?
I believe the long flat thing is the on-off mechanism, as on my VV2-65 - it's automatic when the tone-arm is moved to the outside. - Original Message - From: "Ron L'Herault via Phono-L" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Cc: "Ron L'Herault" <lhera...@verizon.net> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 2:17 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Swiss made, Gold plated? > Don't remember if we can attach pics here but I tried anyhow. I'm trying > to > find out what this large Swiss made motor might have come out of. It is > missing its spindle and associated gear(s) and probably a few other bits > and > pieces. I think the long flat thing up the top is part of a mechanism to > tell how many records one can play on a winding. The two heavy metal > brackets came with it as well. > > Thanks, > > Ron L > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://go.sparkpostmail.com/f/a/AxvDsSANSoUrSJRv_K5Kew~~/AABF2wA~/RgRZj2rCP0EIAGvWnaK9m21XA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQhzdGFuZGFyZGANNTIuMzYuMTI3LjIyNEIKAAFCN65XjWe9_FIYYXJjaGl2ZUBtYWlsLWFyY2hpdmUuY29tCVEEAEQSaHR0cDovL3Bob25vLWwub3JnRwJ7fQ~~ > Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscr...@oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://go.sparkpostmail.com/f/a/AxvDsSANSoUrSJRv_K5Kew~~/AABF2wA~/RgRZj2rCP0EIAGvWnaK9m21XA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQhzdGFuZGFyZGANNTIuMzYuMTI3LjIyNEIKAAFCN65XjWe9_FIYYXJjaGl2ZUBtYWlsLWFyY2hpdmUuY29tCVEEAEQSaHR0cDovL3Bob25vLWwub3JnRwJ7fQ~~ Unsubscribe: phono-l-unsubscr...@oldcrank.org