[Phono-L] Victor 12 question

2012-10-19 Thread Bob Maffit
phono listers:

 

First I would like to thank all of those on the list who have responded to
my various requests for information  parts. I get a little lost in all of
the E-mails and do miss some of them in terms of replying with a thanks.
So here is my blanket one for the recent past. *smile*

 

Moving on:

 

I obtained a Victor 12 which in the book, Looking For The Dog, it explains
the 12 was made in 1909 and was a blend of the Victor VI  the Victor VV-XVI
at the time.

 

I bought it for the parts, in the event I ran across a Vic VI cabinet etc.

 

I noticed the crank on the Victor 12 is a male type and it has been my
experience the ones from the Victor VI  VV-Xvi I have are female. The
LFTD book doesn't address this question, so I am floating this out to
phono-list land.

 

thanks in advance

 

later

 

Bob

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Re: [Phono-L] Victor 12 question

2012-10-19 Thread John Maeder
The XII has a completely different motor from a Victor VI motor of any 
production period.  The XII motor is proprietary to the XII.  The XII is a very 
scarce machine in its own right, much more so than a Vic VI . . . is your 
example not restorable?

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On Oct 19, 2012, at 4:30 AM, Bob Maffit maff...@bresnan.net wrote:

 phono listers:
 
 
 
 First I would like to thank all of those on the list who have responded to
 my various requests for information  parts. I get a little lost in all of
 the E-mails and do miss some of them in terms of replying with a thanks.
 So here is my blanket one for the recent past. *smile*
 
 
 
 Moving on:
 
 
 
 I obtained a Victor 12 which in the book, Looking For The Dog, it explains
 the 12 was made in 1909 and was a blend of the Victor VI  the Victor VV-XVI
 at the time.
 
 
 
 I bought it for the parts, in the event I ran across a Vic VI cabinet etc.
 
 
 
 I noticed the crank on the Victor 12 is a male type and it has been my
 experience the ones from the Victor VI  VV-Xvi I have are female. The
 LFTD book doesn't address this question, so I am floating this out to
 phono-list land.
 
 
 
 thanks in advance
 
 
 
later
 
 
 
 Bob
 
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Re: [Phono-L] Victor 12 question

2012-10-19 Thread harvey kravitz
The Victrola XII crank is a female crank. The same motor is totaly differant 
than a Vic V or VI motor.
Harvey Kravitz






 From: Bob Maffit maff...@bresnan.net
To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 4:17 AM
Subject: [Phono-L] Victor 12 question
 
phono listers:



First I would like to thank all of those on the list who have responded to
my various requests for information  parts. I get a little lost in all of
the E-mails and do miss some of them in terms of replying with a thanks.
So here is my blanket one for the recent past. *smile*



Moving on:



I obtained a Victor 12 which in the book, Looking For The Dog, it explains
the 12 was made in 1909 and was a blend of the Victor VI  the Victor VV-XVI
at the time.



I bought it for the parts, in the event I ran across a Vic VI cabinet etc.



I noticed the crank on the Victor 12 is a male type and it has been my
experience the ones from the Victor VI  VV-Xvi I have are female. The
LFTD book doesn't address this question, so I am floating this out to
phono-list land.



thanks in advance



                later



Bob

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Re: [Phono-L] Victor 12 question

2012-10-19 Thread Bob Maffit
John:

Yes, it would be restorable as most of the problem is the rear hinge has
broke away from the lid.
 the front lid knobs are missing.
I had bought it as I thought the parts were similar to the VI as the book
indicated.
It is to big for me as I am getting limited in flat space around the
house. *grin*

later

Bob

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From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of John Maeder
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 9:12 AM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor 12 question

The XII has a completely different motor from a Victor VI motor of any
production period.  The XII motor is proprietary to the XII.  The XII is a
very scarce machine in its own right, much more so than a Vic VI . . . is
your example not restorable?

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 19, 2012, at 4:30 AM, Bob Maffit maff...@bresnan.net wrote:

 phono listers:
 
 
 
 First I would like to thank all of those on the list who have responded to
 my various requests for information  parts. I get a little lost in all of
 the E-mails and do miss some of them in terms of replying with a thanks.
 So here is my blanket one for the recent past. *smile*
 
 
 
 Moving on:
 
 
 
 I obtained a Victor 12 which in the book, Looking For The Dog, it explains
 the 12 was made in 1909 and was a blend of the Victor VI  the Victor
VV-XVI
 at the time.
 
 
 
 I bought it for the parts, in the event I ran across a Vic VI cabinet etc.
 
 
 
 I noticed the crank on the Victor 12 is a male type and it has been my
 experience the ones from the Victor VI  VV-Xvi I have are female. The
 LFTD book doesn't address this question, so I am floating this out to
 phono-list land.
 
 
 
 thanks in advance
 
 
 
later
 
 
 
 Bob
 
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Re: [Phono-L] Victor 12 question

2012-10-19 Thread John Maeder

The brake, turntable, speed control dial, crank escutcheon, lid support, and 
taper tube and support would all be usable on a VI or XVI as the case may be.  
Not that it's any of my business and it's a free country, but I would 
discourage stripping it to harvest parts.
Best,John

 From: maff...@bresnan.net
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 11:11:45 -0600
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor 12 question
 
 John:
 
 Yes, it would be restorable as most of the problem is the rear hinge has
 broke away from the lid.
  the front lid knobs are missing.
 I had bought it as I thought the parts were similar to the VI as the book
 indicated.
 It is to big for me as I am getting limited in flat space around the
 house. *grin*
 
 later
 
 Bob
 
 -Original Message-
 From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
 Behalf Of John Maeder
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 9:12 AM
 To: Antique Phonograph List
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor 12 question
 
 The XII has a completely different motor from a Victor VI motor of any
 production period.  The XII motor is proprietary to the XII.  The XII is a
 very scarce machine in its own right, much more so than a Vic VI . . . is
 your example not restorable?
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Oct 19, 2012, at 4:30 AM, Bob Maffit maff...@bresnan.net wrote:
 
  phono listers:
  
  
  
  First I would like to thank all of those on the list who have responded to
  my various requests for information  parts. I get a little lost in all of
  the E-mails and do miss some of them in terms of replying with a thanks.
  So here is my blanket one for the recent past. *smile*
  
  
  
  Moving on:
  
  
  
  I obtained a Victor 12 which in the book, Looking For The Dog, it explains
  the 12 was made in 1909 and was a blend of the Victor VI  the Victor
 VV-XVI
  at the time.
  
  
  
  I bought it for the parts, in the event I ran across a Vic VI cabinet etc.
  
  
  
  I noticed the crank on the Victor 12 is a male type and it has been my
  experience the ones from the Victor VI  VV-Xvi I have are female. The
  LFTD book doesn't address this question, so I am floating this out to
  phono-list land.
  
  
  
  thanks in advance
  
  
  
 later
  
  
  
  Bob
  
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