Re: [Phono-L] Victor Junior Reproducer and Other Parts Needed!
WOW congrats you beat the pickers to it best zono -Original Message- From: Jeffry Young, D.O. jeff...@prevea.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sun, May 6, 2012 12:50 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor Junior Reproducer and Other Parts Needed! It never fails! For three years I held on to a Victor Junior reproducer, thinking I would some day find a machine to put the reproducer on. As this did not materialize, I sold the reproducer a couple of years ago on e-bay. Guess what? I just picked up a beautiful little Victor Junior. Wouldn't ya know it? It had a Brunswick reproducer rigged on it! So..., if any one has a Victor Junior reproducer that they would part with, (name your price). Also looking for a crank escutcheon that would work for a Victor-V. Please contact me off line. jeff...@prevea.com There is a great story behind picking up this small collection in Iowa. Maybe in another post down the road? Regards! Jeff Wisconsin From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org on behalf of David Dazer Sent: Sun 5/6/2012 9:36 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] The Sandblaster I enjoyed his description of the drying room where the freshly painted parts cure at room temp. Sounds a lot like my workshop, er, I mean drying room. Too bad he was so nasty to you. D From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org; phonol...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, May 6, 2012 8:18:05 AM Subject: [Phono-L] The Sandblaster Does anyone know who the sandblaster is who sells the sandblasted painted reproducers on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/GORGEOUS-BRASS-EDISON-DIAMOND-DISC-REPRODUCER-COMPLETELY-REBUILT-FREE-WARRANTY-/280875848529 I like how he painted the reproducer with the stylus bar in place, you can see the paint on the bar, very good to allow for freedom of the stylus bar movement. I asked for the serial number on a bronze oxidized reproducer he was selling. These reproducers were made only for the Duncan Stop which he did not know. Edison made three MAIN different oxidized DD reproducers, the final one collectors call gun metal, Edison called it the Antique finish. The first is the copper oxidized which is like the Idelia finish, and the bronze was used for machines such as the W250 and it is always found with the setup for the Duncan Stop. Here is my communication with the sandblaster: Me: What is the serial number? SB: Have you purchased this item or bid on this item? HE KNEW I DID NOT. Me: No I have not purchased or bid on the item, do I have to purchase or bid to ask questions? HE THOUGHT THIS WAS A SMART REPLY, I THOUGHT IT WAS DUMB REPLY TO ASK A QUESTION YOU ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER TO. SB: Vital information as such goes to the winner--so if you buy it, you get that information. Hey, what's your social? Do I have to know you to get that? Make smartass remarks and you will get them returned. I have time for serious inquiries only...not people trying to be nosy. IF ALL COLLECTORS WERE LIKE THE SANDBLASTER RESEARCH WOULD MUCH MORE DIFFICULT AND THERE WOULD BE A LOT LESS COLLECTORS AS 99.99% WOULD NOT BE COLLECTORS AS 99.99% ARE WONDERFUL PEOPLE. Me: You are clearly an idiot, serial numbers vital information? I SHOULD NOT HAVE SAID THIS, MY MISTAKE AND I DO FEEL BAD. You probably do not know where the serial number is or that the serial number begins with EM and this reproducer is found only on the machines with a Duncan stop. Do not write back, I wanted to see if the serial number was higher than the five of these I have. I collect based on serial numbers. SB: And if it's not vital, why do you want it? You're the idiot. Go home to your trailer and grab 'ya a tall one. DUNCAN STOP REPRODUCER WERE MADE WHEN DD REPRODUCERS HAVE THE SLEEVE IN THE THROAT, THE EARLY ONES HAVE THE SLEEVE. EDISON CONTINUED TO IMPROVE THE DD REPRODUCER SO THE LATER ONES HAVE BETTER SOUND. DURING THE TIME WHEN THE DUNCAN STOP WAS BEING MADE ALL EDISON DD REPRODUCERS HAVE THE BENT LIMIT PIN SO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHEN THE DUNCAN STOPPED BEING MADE, IN THE B SERIES OF THE REGULAR DD REPRODUCER. ALL THIS INO I HAVE IS BASED ON PEOPLE SHARING SERIAL NUMBERS. THE ONES WITH THE SLEEVE DO NOT SOUND AS GOOD AS THE LATER ONES. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org http://phono-l.org/ ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org http://phono-l.org/ ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Victor Junior Reproducer and Other Parts Needed!
Hey Jeff Jet's hear the story! I'd like to publish it in the GSPS Record. I love publishing good stories about 'finds'! John Robles From: zonophone2...@aol.com zonophone2...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, May 7, 2012 3:10 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor Junior Reproducer and Other Parts Needed! WOW congrats you beat the pickers to it best zono -Original Message- From: Jeffry Young, D.O. jeff...@prevea.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sun, May 6, 2012 12:50 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor Junior Reproducer and Other Parts Needed! It never fails! For three years I held on to a Victor Junior reproducer, thinking I would some day find a machine to put the reproducer on. As this did not materialize, I sold the reproducer a couple of years ago on e-bay. Guess what? I just picked up a beautiful little Victor Junior. Wouldn't ya know it? It had a Brunswick reproducer rigged on it! So..., if any one has a Victor Junior reproducer that they would part with, (name your price). Also looking for a crank escutcheon that would work for a Victor-V. Please contact me off line. jeff...@prevea.com There is a great story behind picking up this small collection in Iowa. Maybe in another post down the road? Regards! Jeff Wisconsin From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org on behalf of David Dazer Sent: Sun 5/6/2012 9:36 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] The Sandblaster I enjoyed his description of the drying room where the freshly painted parts cure at room temp. Sounds a lot like my workshop, er, I mean drying room. Too bad he was so nasty to you. D From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org; phonol...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, May 6, 2012 8:18:05 AM Subject: [Phono-L] The Sandblaster Does anyone know who the sandblaster is who sells the sandblasted painted reproducers on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/GORGEOUS-BRASS-EDISON-DIAMOND-DISC-REPRODUCER-COMPLETELY-REBUILT-FREE-WARRANTY-/280875848529 I like how he painted the reproducer with the stylus bar in place, you can see the paint on the bar, very good to allow for freedom of the stylus bar movement. I asked for the serial number on a bronze oxidized reproducer he was selling. These reproducers were made only for the Duncan Stop which he did not know. Edison made three MAIN different oxidized DD reproducers, the final one collectors call gun metal, Edison called it the Antique finish. The first is the copper oxidized which is like the Idelia finish, and the bronze was used for machines such as the W250 and it is always found with the setup for the Duncan Stop. Here is my communication with the sandblaster: Me: What is the serial number? SB: Have you purchased this item or bid on this item? HE KNEW I DID NOT. Me: No I have not purchased or bid on the item, do I have to purchase or bid to ask questions? HE THOUGHT THIS WAS A SMART REPLY, I THOUGHT IT WAS DUMB REPLY TO ASK A QUESTION YOU ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER TO. SB: Vital information as such goes to the winner--so if you buy it, you get that information. Hey, what's your social? Do I have to know you to get that? Make smartass remarks and you will get them returned. I have time for serious inquiries only...not people trying to be nosy. IF ALL COLLECTORS WERE LIKE THE SANDBLASTER RESEARCH WOULD MUCH MORE DIFFICULT AND THERE WOULD BE A LOT LESS COLLECTORS AS 99.99% WOULD NOT BE COLLECTORS AS 99.99% ARE WONDERFUL PEOPLE. Me: You are clearly an idiot, serial numbers vital information? I SHOULD NOT HAVE SAID THIS, MY MISTAKE AND I DO FEEL BAD. You probably do not know where the serial number is or that the serial number begins with EM and this reproducer is found only on the machines with a Duncan stop. Do not write back, I wanted to see if the serial number was higher than the five of these I have. I collect based on serial numbers. SB: And if it's not vital, why do you want it? You're the idiot. Go home to your trailer and grab 'ya a tall one. DUNCAN STOP REPRODUCER WERE MADE WHEN DD REPRODUCERS HAVE THE SLEEVE IN THE THROAT, THE EARLY ONES HAVE THE SLEEVE. EDISON CONTINUED TO IMPROVE THE DD REPRODUCER SO THE LATER ONES HAVE BETTER SOUND. DURING THE TIME WHEN THE DUNCAN STOP WAS BEING MADE ALL EDISON DD REPRODUCERS HAVE THE BENT LIMIT PIN SO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHEN THE DUNCAN STOPPED BEING MADE, IN THE B SERIES OF THE REGULAR DD REPRODUCER. ALL THIS INO I HAVE IS BASED ON PEOPLE SHARING SERIAL NUMBERS. THE ONES WITH THE SLEEVE DO NOT SOUND AS GOOD AS THE LATER ONES. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org http://phono-l.org/ ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org http://phono-l.org/ ___ Phono-L mailing list http
Re: [Phono-L] Victor Junior Reproducer and Other Parts Needed!
I maybe able to help Jeff. Shop closed till Friday, but send me an email to remind me please. George V Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone - Reply message - From: Jeffry Young, D.O. jeff...@prevea.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Victor Junior Reproducer and Other Parts Needed! Date: Sun, May 6, 2012 9:17 am It never fails! For three years I held on to a Victor Junior reproducer, thinking I would some day find a machine to put the reproducer on. As this did not materialize, I sold the reproducer a couple of years ago on e-bay. Guess what? I just picked up a beautiful little Victor Junior. Wouldn't ya know it? It had a Brunswick reproducer rigged on it! So..., if any one has a Victor Junior reproducer that they would part with, (name your price). Also looking for a crank escutcheon that would work for a Victor-V. Please contact me off line. jeff...@prevea.com There is a great story behind picking up this small collection in Iowa. Maybe in another post down the road? Regards! Jeff Wisconsin From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org on behalf of David Dazer Sent: Sun 5/6/2012 9:36 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] The Sandblaster I enjoyed his description of the drying room where the freshly painted parts cure at room temp. Sounds a lot like my workshop, er, I mean drying room. Too bad he was so nasty to you. D From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org; phonol...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, May 6, 2012 8:18:05 AM Subject: [Phono-L] The Sandblaster Does anyone know who the sandblaster is who sells the sandblasted painted reproducers on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/GORGEOUS-BRASS-EDISON-DIAMOND-DISC-REPRODUCER-COMPLETELY-REBUILT-FREE-WARRANTY-/280875848529 I like how he painted the reproducer with the stylus bar in place, you can see the paint on the bar, very good to allow for freedom of the stylus bar movement. I asked for the serial number on a bronze oxidized reproducer he was selling. These reproducers were made only for the Duncan Stop which he did not know. Edison made three MAIN different oxidized DD reproducers, the final one collectors call gun metal, Edison called it the Antique finish. The first is the copper oxidized which is like the Idelia finish, and the bronze was used for machines such as the W250 and it is always found with the setup for the Duncan Stop. Here is my communication with the sandblaster: Me: What is the serial number? SB: Have you purchased this item or bid on this item? HE KNEW I DID NOT. Me: No I have not purchased or bid on the item, do I have to purchase or bid to ask questions? HE THOUGHT THIS WAS A SMART REPLY, I THOUGHT IT WAS DUMB REPLY TO ASK A QUESTION YOU ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER TO. SB: Vital information as such goes to the winner--so if you buy it, you get that information. Hey, what's your social? Do I have to know you to get that? Make smartass remarks and you will get them returned. I have time for serious inquiries only...not people trying to be nosy. IF ALL COLLECTORS WERE LIKE THE SANDBLASTER RESEARCH WOULD MUCH MORE DIFFICULT AND THERE WOULD BE A LOT LESS COLLECTORS AS 99.99% WOULD NOT BE COLLECTORS AS 99.99% ARE WONDERFUL PEOPLE. Me: You are clearly an idiot, serial numbers vital information? I SHOULD NOT HAVE SAID THIS, MY MISTAKE AND I DO FEEL BAD. You probably do not know where the serial number is or that the serial number begins with EM and this reproducer is found only on the machines with a Duncan stop. Do not write back, I wanted to see if the serial number was higher than the five of these I have. I collect based on serial numbers. SB: And if it's not vital, why do you want it? You're the idiot. Go home to your trailer and grab 'ya a tall one. DUNCAN STOP REPRODUCER WERE MADE WHEN DD REPRODUCERS HAVE THE SLEEVE IN THE THROAT, THE EARLY ONES HAVE THE SLEEVE. EDISON CONTINUED TO IMPROVE THE DD REPRODUCER SO THE LATER ONES HAVE BETTER SOUND. DURING THE TIME WHEN THE DUNCAN STOP WAS BEING MADE ALL EDISON DD REPRODUCERS HAVE THE BENT LIMIT PIN SO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHEN THE DUNCAN STOPPED BEING MADE, IN THE B SERIES OF THE REGULAR DD REPRODUCER. ALL THIS INO I HAVE IS BASED ON PEOPLE SHARING SERIAL NUMBERS. THE ONES WITH THE SLEEVE DO NOT SOUND AS GOOD AS THE LATER ONES. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org http://phono-l.org/ ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org http://phono-l.org/ ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Victor Junior Reproducer and Other Parts Needed!
Okay..., here ya go! I am from Cedar Rapids, Iowa. I live in Green Bay, Wisconsin. At the time this story begins, my parents were still Iowa residents, living in Cedar Rapids. My wife Tonya and I have been married for 21 years. She puts up with the phonograph hobby, treating the phonographs as accessories for decorating. She likes the friendships more than the machines. That being said, we both have always loved antiques. That actually was our second date, meeting for coffee on a Saturday morning and going garage saling. Thirty minutes east of Cedar Rapids, on the way to Green Bay on highway 151 is the town of Monticello. There is an antique mall there called the Whiffle Tree. Anytime Tonya and I travelled back and forth from a visit with my parents in Cedar Rapids, we would always stop in Monticello and go to the Whiffle Tree. Now, it so happened that there was an appliance store in town, R.E.M. Electric. This was mostly an RCA dealership originally. In the summer of 1994 while on our way out of town after going to the antique shop, I noticed R.E.M. Electric, because there was a large paper mache Nipper in the window. It was a Saturday. The store was open. So I asked Tonya if we could stop. Much to my amazement amongst all the TV's, radios, refrigerators, washers and dryers, was a display area above the office desk of old phonographs, radios, mixers, toasters, and the like. I met the owner, Rudy Monk. (I am sure his name was Rudy E. Monk - R.E.M. Electric!) He must have been 75 at the time. We talked about what was on the shelf. There was a Victor-P, Columbia AU, or Standard. (I couldn't tell from far away.) There was the case for a Victor-V or early D, and there was a Victor Junior with a red petaled horn! This was early enough in my collecting career that I could not tell that it had the wrong reproducer. It was also turned away from me. There was also a 1916 paper mache Old King Cole Nipper. (I knew this because it had the studs in the collar, and glass eyes. They only made this Nipper with the studded collar for 6 months in 1916. Joan Rolfs had just restored a Nipper for me, and was the source of that knowledge.) Rudy also explained that he had a wooden horn somewhere, and a 15 and ½ inch coin-op Regina music box. Of course, nothing was for sale! Every time that Tonya and I went to Cedar Rapids, I stopped at that store. In July of 1997, I met Rudy's son Randy, who was soon to be owner of the store. The meeting was abrupt, curt, and frankly, not very friendly. Despite this, when I got back to Green Bay, I decided to write him a letter, telling him exactly what he had, and the retail value at the time. I also said that I was not a dealer, and if after he became owner of the business, if he ever wanted to sell one piece, or all of the phonographs, that I was interested. Frankly, I never thought I would get a reply, but I did not want someone to come in to the shop someday and sweet talk them out of the machines for hardly anything. That old thing? It couldn't be worth hardly anything! You know the drill. Rudy E. Monk passed away comfortably at the age of 90 in 2009. On Saturday, May 5th, I received a message from my wife that Randy Monk from R.E.M. Electric in Monticello had called the night before! I called him almost immediately! Apparently Randy, who was now 62 and deciding to slow down a little, found my letter while cleaning out his desk drawer! He was ready to part with his dad's phonographs, and would I still be interested. Everything was in boxes, but he thought he could get to everything pretty easily. I left for Monticello at 10:30 AM Saturday, and was back home in Green Bay by 9:40 PM. I have seen too many deals evaporate because an interested party could not get to the collection quickly. With my wife's blessing, I emptied the Mercury Mountaineer, flattened the seats and was off. It takes 4 and ½ hours to get to Monticello from Green Bay. Well, nothing was as pristine as my mind's eye remembered, but what the heck! The paper mache Nipper was missing. Randy thought one of his sisters must have made off with that. Also, one sister had wanted the Regina. After all was said and done, a deal was struck for a Victor-V with a spear point wooden horn, a Victor-P, Standard AA, and a Victor Junior with a red petaled horn, sans correct reproducer. Also with the deal was a mahogany upright VV-90, an oak table top VV-VIII, a quarter sawn oak sheet music cabinet, and a handful of uninteresting records. So..., there you have it! Every collector needs to have at least ONE story like this! I felt a bit like Cinderella putting on the glass slipper! Thanks for your interest! -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of john robles Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 6:35 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor Junior Reproducer and Other Parts Needed! Hey
Re: [Phono-L] Victor Junior Reproducer and Other Parts Needed!
Deal! Jeff -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of victr...@triton.net Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 10:12 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor Junior Reproducer and Other Parts Needed! I maybe able to help Jeff. Shop closed till Friday, but send me an email to remind me please. George V Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone - Reply message - From: Jeffry Young, D.O. jeff...@prevea.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Victor Junior Reproducer and Other Parts Needed! Date: Sun, May 6, 2012 9:17 am It never fails! For three years I held on to a Victor Junior reproducer, thinking I would some day find a machine to put the reproducer on. As this did not materialize, I sold the reproducer a couple of years ago on e-bay. Guess what? I just picked up a beautiful little Victor Junior. Wouldn't ya know it? It had a Brunswick reproducer rigged on it! So..., if any one has a Victor Junior reproducer that they would part with, (name your price). Also looking for a crank escutcheon that would work for a Victor-V. Please contact me off line. jeff...@prevea.com There is a great story behind picking up this small collection in Iowa. Maybe in another post down the road? Regards! Jeff Wisconsin From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org on behalf of David Dazer Sent: Sun 5/6/2012 9:36 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] The Sandblaster I enjoyed his description of the drying room where the freshly painted parts cure at room temp. Sounds a lot like my workshop, er, I mean drying room. Too bad he was so nasty to you. D From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org; phonol...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, May 6, 2012 8:18:05 AM Subject: [Phono-L] The Sandblaster Does anyone know who the sandblaster is who sells the sandblasted painted reproducers on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/GORGEOUS-BRASS-EDISON-DIAMOND-DISC-REPRODUCER-COMPLETELY-REBUILT-FREE-WARRANTY-/280875848529 I like how he painted the reproducer with the stylus bar in place, you can see the paint on the bar, very good to allow for freedom of the stylus bar movement. I asked for the serial number on a bronze oxidized reproducer he was selling. These reproducers were made only for the Duncan Stop which he did not know. Edison made three MAIN different oxidized DD reproducers, the final one collectors call gun metal, Edison called it the Antique finish. The first is the copper oxidized which is like the Idelia finish, and the bronze was used for machines such as the W250 and it is always found with the setup for the Duncan Stop. Here is my communication with the sandblaster: Me: What is the serial number? SB: Have you purchased this item or bid on this item? HE KNEW I DID NOT. Me: No I have not purchased or bid on the item, do I have to purchase or bid to ask questions? HE THOUGHT THIS WAS A SMART REPLY, I THOUGHT IT WAS DUMB REPLY TO ASK A QUESTION YOU ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER TO. SB: Vital information as such goes to the winner--so if you buy it, you get that information. Hey, what's your social? Do I have to know you to get that? Make smartass remarks and you will get them returned. I have time for serious inquiries only...not people trying to be nosy. IF ALL COLLECTORS WERE LIKE THE SANDBLASTER RESEARCH WOULD MUCH MORE DIFFICULT AND THERE WOULD BE A LOT LESS COLLECTORS AS 99.99% WOULD NOT BE COLLECTORS AS 99.99% ARE WONDERFUL PEOPLE. Me: You are clearly an idiot, serial numbers vital information? I SHOULD NOT HAVE SAID THIS, MY MISTAKE AND I DO FEEL BAD. You probably do not know where the serial number is or that the serial number begins with EM and this reproducer is found only on the machines with a Duncan stop. Do not write back, I wanted to see if the serial number was higher than the five of these I have. I collect based on serial numbers. SB: And if it's not vital, why do you want it? You're the idiot. Go home to your trailer and grab 'ya a tall one. DUNCAN STOP REPRODUCER WERE MADE WHEN DD REPRODUCERS HAVE THE SLEEVE IN THE THROAT, THE EARLY ONES HAVE THE SLEEVE. EDISON CONTINUED TO IMPROVE THE DD REPRODUCER SO THE LATER ONES HAVE BETTER SOUND. DURING THE TIME WHEN THE DUNCAN STOP WAS BEING MADE ALL EDISON DD REPRODUCERS HAVE THE BENT LIMIT PIN SO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHEN THE DUNCAN STOPPED BEING MADE, IN THE B SERIES OF THE REGULAR DD REPRODUCER. ALL THIS INO I HAVE IS BASED ON PEOPLE SHARING SERIAL NUMBERS. THE ONES WITH THE SLEEVE DO NOT SOUND AS GOOD AS THE LATER ONES. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org http://phono-l.org/ ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Victor Junior Reproducer and Other Parts Needed!
It never fails! For three years I held on to a Victor Junior reproducer, thinking I would some day find a machine to put the reproducer on. As this did not materialize, I sold the reproducer a couple of years ago on e-bay. Guess what? I just picked up a beautiful little Victor Junior. Wouldn't ya know it? It had a Brunswick reproducer rigged on it! So..., if any one has a Victor Junior reproducer that they would part with, (name your price). Also looking for a crank escutcheon that would work for a Victor-V. Please contact me off line. jeff...@prevea.com There is a great story behind picking up this small collection in Iowa. Maybe in another post down the road? Regards! Jeff Wisconsin From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org on behalf of David Dazer Sent: Sun 5/6/2012 9:36 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] The Sandblaster I enjoyed his description of the drying room where the freshly painted parts cure at room temp. Sounds a lot like my workshop, er, I mean drying room. Too bad he was so nasty to you. D From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org; phonol...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, May 6, 2012 8:18:05 AM Subject: [Phono-L] The Sandblaster Does anyone know who the sandblaster is who sells the sandblasted painted reproducers on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/GORGEOUS-BRASS-EDISON-DIAMOND-DISC-REPRODUCER-COMPLETELY-REBUILT-FREE-WARRANTY-/280875848529 I like how he painted the reproducer with the stylus bar in place, you can see the paint on the bar, very good to allow for freedom of the stylus bar movement. I asked for the serial number on a bronze oxidized reproducer he was selling. These reproducers were made only for the Duncan Stop which he did not know. Edison made three MAIN different oxidized DD reproducers, the final one collectors call gun metal, Edison called it the Antique finish. The first is the copper oxidized which is like the Idelia finish, and the bronze was used for machines such as the W250 and it is always found with the setup for the Duncan Stop. Here is my communication with the sandblaster: Me: What is the serial number? SB: Have you purchased this item or bid on this item? HE KNEW I DID NOT. Me: No I have not purchased or bid on the item, do I have to purchase or bid to ask questions? HE THOUGHT THIS WAS A SMART REPLY, I THOUGHT IT WAS DUMB REPLY TO ASK A QUESTION YOU ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER TO. SB: Vital information as such goes to the winner--so if you buy it, you get that information. Hey, what's your social? Do I have to know you to get that? Make smartass remarks and you will get them returned. I have time for serious inquiries only...not people trying to be nosy. IF ALL COLLECTORS WERE LIKE THE SANDBLASTER RESEARCH WOULD MUCH MORE DIFFICULT AND THERE WOULD BE A LOT LESS COLLECTORS AS 99.99% WOULD NOT BE COLLECTORS AS 99.99% ARE WONDERFUL PEOPLE. Me: You are clearly an idiot, serial numbers vital information? I SHOULD NOT HAVE SAID THIS, MY MISTAKE AND I DO FEEL BAD. You probably do not know where the serial number is or that the serial number begins with EM and this reproducer is found only on the machines with a Duncan stop. Do not write back, I wanted to see if the serial number was higher than the five of these I have. I collect based on serial numbers. SB: And if it's not vital, why do you want it? You're the idiot. Go home to your trailer and grab 'ya a tall one. DUNCAN STOP REPRODUCER WERE MADE WHEN DD REPRODUCERS HAVE THE SLEEVE IN THE THROAT, THE EARLY ONES HAVE THE SLEEVE. EDISON CONTINUED TO IMPROVE THE DD REPRODUCER SO THE LATER ONES HAVE BETTER SOUND. DURING THE TIME WHEN THE DUNCAN STOP WAS BEING MADE ALL EDISON DD REPRODUCERS HAVE THE BENT LIMIT PIN SO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHEN THE DUNCAN STOPPED BEING MADE, IN THE B SERIES OF THE REGULAR DD REPRODUCER. ALL THIS INO I HAVE IS BASED ON PEOPLE SHARING SERIAL NUMBERS. THE ONES WITH THE SLEEVE DO NOT SOUND AS GOOD AS THE LATER ONES. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org http://phono-l.org/ ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org http://phono-l.org/ ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
