Re: [Phono-L] converting an Amberola 30 to using a Amberola 50 mechanism
My understanding is you don't even need to swap mechanisms, you can install a second spring barrel in a model 30 and have the same result. Bill On Oct 10, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Bob Maffit wrote: Phono Folks: I have heard in the past that one can take an Edison Amberola 50 mechanism and drop it in an Amberola 30 case with no problem, and have a machine (sort of a hotrod which has the attributes' of the longer playing 50 in a smaller case. Is this so? What modifications if any, is needed to do this? Discussion regarding this matter would be appreciated. later Bob ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] converting an Amberola 30 to using a Amberola 50 mechanism
All you have to do is you have both mechanisms complete is the let the motor wind down and move the 50 spring barrels over to the 30 and the 30 to the 50. You will have to move the hook that holds the spring as the extra barrel is in the way, see below for more info. If you drop the complete 50 mechanism in a 30 you will need to relocate the hook holding the spring that goes from the horn to the motorboard. Most boards are drilled universal so you can do this with no problem and you can make a 30 a double spring motor if you put the springs barrels from a 50 on the 30 board. Make sure the rubber hose that covers the lug is there to insulate against motor noise. I repaired a 30 with a broken motor board by placing a 50 mechanism in it, you will want to change the ID plate as well, I think I still have brass nails for the ID plate transfer. Steve From: maff...@bresnan.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:59:05 -0600 Subject: [Phono-L] converting an Amberola 30 to using a Amberola 50 mechanism Phono Folks: I have heard in the past that one can take an Edison Amberola 50 mechanism and drop it in an Amberola 30 case with no problem, and have a machine (sort of a hotrod which has the attributes' of the longer playing 50 in a smaller case. Is this so? What modifications if any, is needed to do this? Discussion regarding this matter would be appreciated. later Bob ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] converting an Amberola 30 to using a Amberola 50 mechanism
The spring barrels come as a set so you have to swap the barrel(s) and the winder. The single spring winder has 4 screws the double has 2 screws and most boards are dilled universal. You still have to swap the hook that holds the spring that goes from the horn to the motor board. The DD motors are the same with the exception of the spring which the DD motor does not have so you can make a single spring motor a double, even some Edison machines are found with double springs when the came with singles. Steve From: b...@taney.com Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:18:41 -0500 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] converting an Amberola 30 to using a Amberola 50 mechanism My understanding is you don't even need to swap mechanisms, you can install a second spring barrel in a model 30 and have the same result. Bill On Oct 10, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Bob Maffit wrote: Phono Folks: I have heard in the past that one can take an Edison Amberola 50 mechanism and drop it in an Amberola 30 case with no problem, and have a machine (sort of a hotrod which has the attributes' of the longer playing 50 in a smaller case. Is this so? What modifications if any, is needed to do this? Discussion regarding this matter would be appreciated. later Bob ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] converting an Amberola 30 to using a Amberola 50 mechanism
Steve: Thanks Bob -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Steven Medved Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 1:38 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] converting an Amberola 30 to using a Amberola 50 mechanism You cannot use two 30 barrels as the 50 barrels come as an assembly and you need the 50 winder. The springs are the same, but the double spring 50 and the double spring DD barrels come as one unit and that one 50 unit cannot be made from two 30 barrels. Steve From: maff...@bresnan.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:36:33 -0600 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] converting an Amberola 30 to using a Amberola 50 mechanism Steven: Would using 2 Amberola 30 Spring Barrels be the same as the 50 spring barrels? If not what would be the problem what changes or modifications would be needed other than adding the 2 screw winder to accommodate the space change from 1 to 2 barrels? Later Bob -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Steven Medved Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 11:48 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] converting an Amberola 30 to using a Amberola 50 mechanism The spring barrels come as a set so you have to swap the barrel(s) and the winder. The single spring winder has 4 screws the double has 2 screws and most boards are dilled universal. You still have to swap the hook that holds the spring that goes from the horn to the motor board. The DD motors are the same with the exception of the spring which the DD motor does not have so you can make a single spring motor a double, even some Edison machines are found with double springs when the came with singles. Steve From: b...@taney.com Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:18:41 -0500 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] converting an Amberola 30 to using a Amberola 50 mechanism My understanding is you don't even need to swap mechanisms, you can install a second spring barrel in a model 30 and have the same result. Bill On Oct 10, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Bob Maffit wrote: Phono Folks: I have heard in the past that one can take an Edison Amberola 50 mechanism and drop it in an Amberola 30 case with no problem, and have a machine (sort of a hotrod which has the attributes' of the longer playing 50 in a smaller case. Is this so? What modifications if any, is needed to do this? Discussion regarding this matter would be appreciated. later Bob ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
