Re: [PHP-DEV] SAP DB

2002-02-26 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe

Lukas Smith wrote:
Yes, As I didn't know that SAPDB = AdabasD  I was unaware...

 
 As far as I know is is pretty much AdabasD but ist not exactly AdabasD
 either. Its basically a fork from all I know.

that's why i wrote from a programmers point of view

SAP has bought the right to use the AdabasD Source Code from SAG
a while ago (SAG AdabasD is one of the few SQL Databases you can
run SAP R/3 on, and it was the first of the 'big players' databases
to be ported to Linux, way ahead of Oracle and Informix). The idea
behind the whole SAP DB stuff seems to be to have an alternative
to Oracle around, jsut in case ... ;)

SAP DB and AdabasD are now seperate products and the code bases
have forked, but SAP and SAG still work together so it is very
hard to distinguish the two products from one another.
They are far more similar than eg. the Sybase and Microsoft
servers have been in the 90ies

AFAIK the original codebase for SAP DB was AdabasD 6.x,
while current AdabasD version is 11.x, but the differences
from 6.x to 11.x are not as big as the version numbers suggest,
and a lot of stuff added to AdabasD after 6.x should have been
available to SAP developers, too




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RE: [PHP-DEV] SAP DB

2002-02-25 Thread Lukas Smith

Yes, back when SAP opensourced SAP DB there was a lot of speculation was
to why they did it. Actuallywe installed it on our test server, but
never actually tested it.

It seems very feature complete and well documented. Using ODBC sucks
(especially with the problems it creates with other RDBMSs), so a native
driver would be nice. Anyways I remember that they announced that they
would continue development and would improve the SAP DB OS site. I
haven't really checked if they followed through with their promise.

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 -Original Message-
 From: alex black [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 4:27 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [PHP-DEV] SAP DB
 
 hi all,
 
 One of the binarycloud developers just told me to have a look at the
SAP
 OS
 database, SAPDB.
 
 I'm going to test it tomorrow to see if it actually does what it
claims,
 but
 this _looks_ like serious OS competition to Oracle, and if it is I
would
 very much like to use it for my next project.
 
 So, question:
 
 Has anyone used SAPDB with PHP? If so, experiences? And if not, are
there
 plans for drivers? I looked in the manual and I didn't see any mention
of
 SAPDB.
 
 Oh, and I just found a mention of PHP on the SAPDB site. Looks like
the
 connection is over ODBC, which I really _really_ dislike... are there
 plans
 for anything native? like a sapdb_connect :)?
 
 In any case I think this database has a _HUGE_ amount of potential and
PHP
 would benefit if access to SAPDB was possible.
 
 please e-mail me directly as I am not subscribed to the NGs:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 thanks,
 
 _alex
 
 
 
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Re: [PHP-DEV] SAP DB

2002-02-25 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe

alex black wrote:
 hi all,
 
 One of the binarycloud developers just told me to have a look at the SAP OS
 database, SAPDB.

SAP DB is just another name for AdabasD from a programmers point of view-


 I'm going to test it tomorrow to see if it actually does what it claims, but
 this _looks_ like serious OS competition to Oracle, and if it is I would
 very much like to use it for my next project.
 
 So, question:
 
 Has anyone used SAPDB with PHP? If so, experiences? And if not, are there
 plans for drivers? I looked in the manual and I didn't see any mention of
 SAPDB.

http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.odbc.php

 Oh, and I just found a mention of PHP on the SAPDB site. Looks like the
 connection is over ODBC, which I really _really_ dislike... are there plans
 for anything native? like a sapdb_connect :)?

from the link mentinoned above:

 In addition to normal ODBC support, the Unified ODBC functions in PHP allow
   you to access several databases that have borrowed the semantics of the ODBC
   API to implement their own API. Instead of maintaining multiple database
   drivers that were all nearly identical, these drivers have been unified
   into a single set of ODBC functions.

so the call interface to AdabasD/SapDB looks like ODBC, but you have
direct access to the database using PHP, you don't have to deal with
ODBC driver management and all the stuff if you don't want you


 In any case I think this database has a _HUGE_ amount of potential and PHP
 would benefit if access to SAPDB was possible.


as said above: it is all there ... just the documentation could need
a little update ...


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RE: [PHP-DEV] SAP DB

2002-02-25 Thread Lukas Smith

 Yes, As I didn't know that SAPDB = AdabasD  I was unaware...

As far as I know is is pretty much AdabasD but ist not exactly AdabasD
either. Its basically a fork from all I know.

The documentation seemed fairly complete when I checked a while back.
The interface to it was just not very good though.

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Re: [PHP-DEV] SAP DB

2002-02-25 Thread Georg Richter

On Monday, 25. February 2002 21:19, Lukas Smith wrote:
  Yes, As I didn't know that SAPDB = AdabasD  I was unaware...

 As far as I know is is pretty much AdabasD but ist not exactly AdabasD
 either. Its basically a fork from all I know.

Yes, its a fork from version 6.1

Georg

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Re: [PHP-DEV] SAP DB

2002-02-25 Thread Alex Black

 SAP DB is just another name for AdabasD from a programmers point of view-

Ah, cool.

 http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.odbc.php

Well, yes.

  In addition to normal ODBC support, the Unified ODBC functions in PHP allow
  you to access several databases that have borrowed the semantics of the ODBC
  API to implement their own API. Instead of maintaining multiple database
  drivers that were all nearly identical, these drivers have been unified
  into a single set of ODBC functions.
 
 so the call interface to AdabasD/SapDB looks like ODBC, but you have
 direct access to the database using PHP, you don't have to deal with
 ODBC driver management and all the stuff if you don't want you

AHA!

Fantastic!

 as said above: it is all there ... just the documentation could need
 a little update ...

Yes, As I didn't know that SAPDB = AdabasD  I was unaware...

In any case you have made my day, thank you :)

All on bc-dev... hehehehe, + excellent +.

and Mike, I'm going to use this. (as I suspect you will as well)

_alex


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