Re: [PHP-DEV] when PHP code causes crash due to bad input, is it a bug?
Am Freitag, 10.01.03 um 21:02 Uhr schrieb gk: I am trying to help with PHP. But this experience makes me feel like it is not worth it. Can anyone give me some clarification. Is there a common agreement on what constitutes a bug? I have worked as Sr. SQA engineer for many years and have always worked under the understanding that crashes are unacceptible - no matter what caused them: code should be able to handle bad data and not crash. See my bug report and analysis by Daniel Veillard of libxml2 at: http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=21477 Greg, don't make that big fuss about it. I fixed the code 15 minutes after bogusfying your report, so it throws an error, if the input is bad. Maybe setting it to bogus was a little bit too unfair, but my additional comments should have clarified it... chregu - Greg Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:50:35 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: gk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bug #21477 [Opn-Bgs]: $node-dump_node($node) crashes with libxml2-2.4.30 At 06:54 PM 1/10/2003 +, you wrote: You're not in position to decide what is bogus and what is not. This is bogus. - Greg Keraunen -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP-DEV] when PHP code causes crash due to bad input, is it a bug?
I am trying to help with PHP. But this experience makes me feel like it is not worth it. Can anyone give me some clarification. Is there a common agreement on what constitutes a bug? I have worked as Sr. SQA engineer for many years and have always worked under the understanding that crashes are unacceptible - no matter what caused them: code should be able to handle bad data and not crash. See my bug report and analysis by Daniel Veillard of libxml2 at: http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=21477 - Greg Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:50:35 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: gk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bug #21477 [Opn-Bgs]: $node-dump_node($node) crashes with libxml2-2.4.30 At 06:54 PM 1/10/2003 +, you wrote: You're not in position to decide what is bogus and what is not. This is bogus. - Greg Keraunen -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] when PHP code causes crash due to bad input, is it a bug?
| I have worked as Sr. SQA engineer for many years and have always worked | under the understanding that crashes are unacceptible - no matter what | caused them: code should be able to handle bad data and not crash. Agreed, IMO, if it in fact crashes, it is not bogus. Brian Moon dealnews.com -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] when PHP code causes crash due to bad input, is it a bug?
Thanks for sticking with the issue, Greg. If I may make an objective observation... Random users constantly submit issues to the bug database that are clearly not problems with PHP, issues that are better addressed in the mailing lists. I imagine it must be frustrating to the QA team to have people constantly blaming PHP for bugs in their scripts. Sometimes issues are mistakenly changed to bogus when they shouldn't be. And as a bug submitter it's easy to think bogus really means you're a liar or an idiot. It doesn't. It just seems to be a space we've reached where resolution of bug reports isn't perfect. The best idea I have is to remain polite and persistent. Hey, at least no one used a swear word. Since you have lots of experience doing QA, you probably already understand this and maybe you have some ideas for how the process can improve. Leon -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] when PHP code causes crash due to bad input, is it a bug?
Since you have lots of experience doing QA, you probably already understand this and maybe you have some ideas for how the process can improve. This was the best thing said in ages regards QA, bug reporting and bogusment. Thanks. Leon -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
