Re: [PHP] Best ajax library

2009-12-19 Thread Ali Asghar Toraby Parizy
I have chosen jquery at last. because:

• jQuery has a huge number of plugins available for everything you could
imagine wanting to do online
• The information on the jQuery site is extremely well documented, with many
examples
• jQuery does not extend the elements that it works on, which means that
JavaScript such as 'for(i in el){...}' will still work
• jQuery's CSS selector engine, Sizzle, is arguably the most complete and
the
quickest available

reffer to jquery with php by Kae Verens
thanks for your helps frinds


On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Philip Thompson philthath...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Dec 15, 2009, at 3:12 AM, Joseph Masoud wrote:

  On 15 Dec 2009, at 08:50, Ali Asghar Toraby Parizy 
 aliasghar.tor...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Which one is more active than others? I mean which project extends
  faster and better, in future?
 
  On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:37 AM, Philip Thompson 
 philthath...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Dec 14, 2009, at 4:27 AM, Ali Asghar Toraby Parizy wrote:
 
  Hi
  I think the best choice is jquery until now.
  But, is it reasonable to combine jquery and other library to client
  side and server side scripting respectively?
  By the way, where i can find good lessons about jquery and php?
 
  I really like this js library.
 
  http://mootools.net/
 
  It's based off of jquery or prototype... I can't remember.
 
  ~Philip
 
  JQuery and Mootools are two very different approaches of creating a
 JavaScript framework. Both shine in different ways.
 
  I use JQuery when I want to get things done quickly (using the Yii
 framework or on custom projects).  I use mootols when I develop Joomla!
 Extensions and it's amazing.  Which is more suitable boils down to what your
 project needs.
 
  I'm messing around with Ext at the moment and it's really nice too!
 
  The ultimate answer to your question is; it depends.

 Along those lines of it depends... to my knowledge, most of the
 larger/more popular js frameworks consider other libraries when being
 developed. Meaning, the chances of a naming conflict are lowered. Not that I
 recommend it, but it does allow for using multiple libraries for a single
 project - that's another thread.

 I can't speak for the other libraries, but I know that MooTools is
 constantly being updated and improved. I doubt that it will be leaving
 anytime soon. Check out some extended functionality of MooTools...
 Clientcide. It's created by the same author of MooTools to work with it.

 http://www.clientcide.com/

 ~Philip
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[PHP] Checking for internet connection.

2009-12-19 Thread Angus Mann

Hi all.

I'w writing a PHP app that is designed to run over a LAN, so internet 
connection for the server is not really essential. Some users may 
deliberately not connect it to the internet as a security precaution.


But I'd like the app to make use of an internet connection if it exists to 
check for an update, and notify the user.


Is there a simple way for a PHP script to check if it has an internet 
connection?


I thought of this :

if(fsockopen(www.google.com, 80)){
   // we are connected
}

Is this OK or is there something better for the purpose?



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Re: [PHP] Checking for internet connection.

2009-12-19 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Sun, 2009-12-20 at 10:13 +1000, Angus Mann wrote:

 Hi all.
 
 I'w writing a PHP app that is designed to run over a LAN, so internet 
 connection for the server is not really essential. Some users may 
 deliberately not connect it to the internet as a security precaution.
 
 But I'd like the app to make use of an internet connection if it exists to 
 check for an update, and notify the user.
 
 Is there a simple way for a PHP script to check if it has an internet 
 connection?
 
 I thought of this :
 
 if(fsockopen(www.google.com, 80)){
 // we are connected
 }
 
 Is this OK or is there something better for the purpose?
 
 
 


Why can't you put the update on the same LAN server that the app
resides?

If that is not possible, what about using CURL, and update if it can
connect successfully, but don't if it cannot?

Thanks,
Ash
http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk




Re: [PHP] Checking for internet connection.

2009-12-19 Thread Angus Mann

Why can't you put the update on the same LAN server that the app resides?

If that is not possible, what about using CURL, and update if it can connect 
successfully, but don't if it cannot?

  Thanks,
  Ash
  http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk

  Since the LAN is remote (many hundreds of miles away) from the source of 
the update, the only practical way to deliver an update every month or week to 
multiple users is to make it available for download from a central update 
server.

  I'm just trying to maximize efficiency by checking if an internet 
connection exists, and abandoning further attempts to check for update 
availability if it does not.

  The idea to use CURL seems valid, but it pre-supposes that I know the 
answer to my own question. To use your suggestion, I'd have to have some 
mechanism to detect if it can connect successfully. I'm asking what that 
mechanism should be, and if the one I've suggested is good, or flawed in some 
way. 



 


Re: [PHP] Checking for internet connection.

2009-12-19 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Sun, 2009-12-20 at 10:36 +1000, Angus Mann wrote:

 Why can't you put the update on the same LAN server that the app resides?
 
 If that is not possible, what about using CURL, and update if it can connect 
 successfully, but don't if it cannot?
 
   Thanks,
   Ash
   http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
 
   Since the LAN is remote (many hundreds of miles away) from the source 
 of the update, the only practical way to deliver an update every month or 
 week to multiple users is to make it available for download from a central 
 update server.
 
   I'm just trying to maximize efficiency by checking if an internet 
 connection exists, and abandoning further attempts to check for update 
 availability if it does not.
 
   The idea to use CURL seems valid, but it pre-supposes that I know the 
 answer to my own question. To use your suggestion, I'd have to have some 
 mechanism to detect if it can connect successfully. I'm asking what that 
 mechanism should be, and if the one I've suggested is good, or flawed in some 
 way. 
 
 
 
  


I think the only way to detect if it can connect to the Internet is to
see if you can grab a file from somewhere on the Internet. I'd hazard a
guess that when operating systems are able to tell you they can connect
to the Internet they are actually saying they can ping a predetermined
remote host. I think checking if PHP can grab a remote file with Curl
would be sufficient in this case.

Thanks,
Ash
http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk




Re: [PHP] Checking for internet connection.

2009-12-19 Thread John Corry
Curl_init() will return a resource or false if it fails, like it would  
if no Internet connection were present.


J Corry
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On Dec 19, 2009, at 5:36 PM, Angus Mann angusm...@pobox.com wrote:



Why can't you put the update on the same LAN server that the app  
resides?


If that is not possible, what about using CURL, and update if it can  
connect successfully, but don't if it cannot?


 Thanks,
 Ash
 http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk

 Since the LAN is remote (many hundreds of miles away) from the  
source of the update, the only practical way to deliver an update  
every month or week to multiple users is to make it available for  
download from a central update server.


 I'm just trying to maximize efficiency by checking if an  
internet connection exists, and abandoning further attempts to check  
for update availability if it does not.


 The idea to use CURL seems valid, but it pre-supposes that I  
know the answer to my own question. To use your suggestion, I'd have  
to have some mechanism to detect if it can connect successfully.  
I'm asking what that mechanism should be, and if the one I've  
suggested is good, or flawed in some way.







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Re: [PHP] Checking for internet connection.

2009-12-19 Thread Phpster
The next way to handle this might be to code an AIR app. Then it's a  
simple js trap to see if connectivity exists.


Bastien

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On Dec 19, 2009, at 7:13 PM, Angus Mann angusm...@pobox.com wrote:


Hi all.

I'w writing a PHP app that is designed to run over a LAN, so  
internet connection for the server is not really essential. Some  
users may deliberately not connect it to the internet as a security  
precaution.


But I'd like the app to make use of an internet connection if it  
exists to check for an update, and notify the user.


Is there a simple way for a PHP script to check if it has an  
internet connection?


I thought of this :

if(fsockopen(www.google.com, 80)){
  // we are connected
}

Is this OK or is there something better for the purpose?



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